At an estate sale this weekend, I purchased a few older Sotheby's catalogs of auctions of primarily PA German items, including frakturs. I would like to share the Dauphin Co birth information contained in them, as I find it. In the 1974 catalog, for an auction of items from the collection of the Garbisches, a fraktur was auctioned off that recorded the September 5th(?) 1807 birth of Jacob DEIMLER, son of Daniel and Anna Maria DEIMLER, of Upper Paxton Township in Dauphin Co. Lynne

I have taken many very fine pictures of tombstones and by enlarging and sharpening them I was able to see dates that I wanted to record. Truthfully, the tombstones were not that bad, but I needed to see something I had not considered when photographing them. My experience would lead me to believe that it may help a *little*. The far greater advantage is that you don't have to risk damaging an already-deteriorating stone. I have *grave* concerns (pardon the pun) about applying anything to an aging stone and I think it is highly inadvisable to touch the surface at all. Chalk rubbings, scraping off excess shaving cream, brushing off flour, etc, are all very likely to remove more bits of the stone and the stone is likely already in poor condition or deteriorating if you have to consider those techniques in order to read it. I believe the greatest courtesy to the deceased and to other researchers would be to avoid touching the tombstone at all. Lynne NtnyLions@aol.com wrote: > > I'd like to know if anyone has had any success using digital cameras....any opinions out there?

John, I'm sending this to the list because it may be of general interest. Try your local library or a big nearby library. My local library in Spencerport, NY has a lot of the disks available at the reference desk. Good Luck!!

I'd like to know if anyone has had any success using digital cameras....any opinions out there? It seems to me that if you have one with good resolution, you should be able to enhance the picture on your computer and possibly read what was unreadable?

I would appreciate a lookup on the following names: Thomas Grundon d. Oct 29 1828 Barbara Grundon d. June 1 1811 Heinrich McKee d. ? Eva McKee d. ? Any others with the surname Grundon or variant spellings. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Gwen Grundon Coleman Susan J Fevola wrote: > I am willing to do lookups in the book I own, "Dauphin County, PA > Tombstone Inscriptions, Volume III. It is not all inclusive as it only > has listings from 18 Dauphin Co Cemeteries. > But you might hit it lucky and find that elusive ancestor. > > Send me the names you are looking for and I'll try and help. > > Please E-Mail me privately. > Sue > susanjf@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > List Ownwer Nadine Hensley for list help please e-mail me at > ndwilson@swbell.net

David H. Hepfer Born March 30, 1801 in Dauphin County (or Lebanon Co.) PA Died August 30, 1884 in Guilford Twp., Franklin Co., PA Married Catherine E. Born ca 1812 in PA Died November 17, 1879 in Guilford Twp., Franklin Co., PA Believe they were buried in the Upper Strasburg Mennonite Church Cemetery (along Tennessee Ave.?) Any information you might have about David and Catherine, info about children or parents, wills or land contracts, etc. would be very much appreciated. Sue Cramer Peoria, AZ

John Price wrote: > I use Family Tree Maker and would like to start getting their CDs. Trouble > is, they are $20 a pop, and I might find one fact (or nothing) on a CD. > ('Course I could strike gold, too.) Wonder if there is interest among list > members to share or pass CDs along at cost? ... Why not just try this? Volunteers will do look-ups for you, and if you find what you want, you can buy it(or not). http://seidata.com/~genealogy/cdlist.html -- Bill Hawk

I use Family Tree Maker and would like to start getting their CDs. Trouble is, they are $20 a pop, and I might find one fact (or nothing) on a CD. ('Course I could strike gold, too.) Wonder if there is interest among list members to share or pass CDs along at cost? If so, to keep that traffic off this list, we can start a site to post to each other about CD availability. If you are interested, please don't clog this list, but send a message to me at john_price@usnetway.com. I'll need your email address anyway to invite you to the site. I won't post this again, so list manager, don't worry. -- John

Dear Paul, Quoting Robert Woodside My Life and Town page 175; "The Woodsides Using biblical language, Joohn Woodside begot Thomas who begot Jacob who begot William who begot Tobert, Sr. who begot Robert, Jr., who begot Tober James who begot Mike. A brief history of the Yeager, Buffington, Creightoon, Jacobs, Lemon, Hoffman and Woodside families by the Honorable James Martin Yeager, DD records the children of John Woodside, born 9 March 1760, died 11 September, 1835, a soldier of the Revolutionary War from Upper Paxton Township, in the following order: 1 James 2 Nathan page 176, 3 Jonathan (In 1779 Jonathan Woodside is listed as First Sergeant, John Woodside and Andrew Yeager as Privates in Captain Martin Weaver's Company. In 1779 Jonathan woodside spent two months and three days in active service in Captain Caldwell's Company, Second Batt., Lancaster County militia.) 4 Thomas born 22 December, 1787; died 8 January 1872. Married Mary Yeager 1812 5 John William born 8 June 1799 6 Isaac born 11 May 1806, died 23 February 1884 7 Mary Jane married Simon Sallada 8 Eleanor born 25 February 1797 married Messner 9 Ann born 12 August 1801, married Sallada 10 Margaret born 9 September 1803, married John Shott. James Woodside in 1767 applied for a patent to land in Upper Paxton Township near Berrys Mountain; Jonathan in 1775; and Johhn in 1792, the three properties adjoining. As John was only seven years old when James applied, that "James" could not have been John's son. Although Dr. Yeager's book lists James and Jonathan as John's sons, I suspect that James, John and Jonathan were brothers, which would fit my mother's story that three brothers came here from North Ireland.. Nathan applied for a warrant to land in Washington Township in 1814. He could have been John's son. Of course, John may have named a son after his father or two sons after their uncles. Although official land records are strong evidence of the claim to the land onthe dates indicated, many of the early settlers occupied the lands years before applying for patents." page 177 Shela Norton Greenlaw from Clayton, California Paulpell61@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Shela, > This is great information you sent... > The story of Mary Jane being captured by Indians...(I have heard)... > John Woodside my gr-gr-gr-gr-gr grandfather was a Revolutionary War > Patriot...here is a link to check out if you wish (I am working on it and > haven't finished it yet)... > http://hometown.aol.com/paulpell61/myhomepage/heritage.html > I am decended through Jonathan Woodside who married Elizabeth Shell and then > their daughter Mary Ann Woodside married George McEliece (who was my gr-gr-gr > grandfather) and then their daughter Anna married J. J. Rigney and then their > daughter Celia O. Rigney married my gr grandfather Vincent Coyne and then > their daughter Mary Coyne married my grandfather John Thompson Roberts. > If interested in sharing more info let me know... > Paul Roberts Pell > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com

John, Please be cautious with this approach. You may be violating federal copyright laws and opening yourself and others to legal action. I am aware of the issues of companies using genealogy info sent in, BUT they are a business and could come after you. I am not associated with any company. I am an individual who is interested helping so please do not "flame" me about this. David John Price wrote: > > I use Family Tree Maker and would like to start getting their CDs. Trouble > is, they are $20 a pop, and I might find one fact (or nothing) on a CD. > ('Course I could strike gold, too.) Wonder if there is interest among list > members to share or pass CDs along at cost? If so, to keep that traffic off > this list, we can start a site to post to each other about CD availability. > If you are interested, please don't clog this list, but send a message to me > at john_price@usnetway.com. I'll need your email address anyway to invite > you to the site. I won't post this again, so list manager, don't worry. > > -- John > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com

Thanks Shela, This is great information you sent... The story of Mary Jane being captured by Indians...(I have heard)... John Woodside my gr-gr-gr-gr-gr grandfather was a Revolutionary War Patriot...here is a link to check out if you wish (I am working on it and haven't finished it yet)... http://hometown.aol.com/paulpell61/myhomepage/heritage.html I am decended through Jonathan Woodside who married Elizabeth Shell and then their daughter Mary Ann Woodside married George McEliece (who was my gr-gr-gr grandfather) and then their daughter Anna married J. J. Rigney and then their daughter Celia O. Rigney married my gr grandfather Vincent Coyne and then their daughter Mary Coyne married my grandfather John Thompson Roberts. If interested in sharing more info let me know... Paul Roberts Pell

Hi Ray & Cathy, Emma E. Hoover died 30 June 1959 in Harrisburg and is buried in the Oberlin Cemetery. This is from a fellow Stoh researcher living in Harrisburg. I have nothing listed for her as far as a husband. Emma Elizabeth Hall [her mother] died 8 Dec 1872, a day after Emma E. Hoover was born. From the same researcher I have John Edward Hall b 26 Feb 1868 in Fishing Creek Valley and d 1 May 1962 in Carlisle. He was married 3 times! 1: Elizabeth A. Eby in 1889, one child, Clarence Leroy Hall b 1896; 2: Annie E. Pierce Clark in 1898, no children listed; and 3: Katie Shope in 1922, no children listed. I don't have the William E. Hall b 1890. Perhaps my John Edward is two people! I'll have to check with my source ... or is there another similar family in the area? Hope that helps one of you! -Linnea At 4:39 9/12/0, Hall, Ray wrote: >Hi Linnea and Cathy, Our HALL family records show that Emma HALL >[1847-1872], first child of John and Frances O. [REA] HALL married David >HOOVER, date unknown. Our records further indicate that she died in 1872 >giving birth to Emma HOOVER. I do not know if their daughter survived >childhood. On 1983May03 I visited Cloyd HOLTZAPPLE, age 67, married to >Florence/Kathryn HOOVER and Hubert "Gibbie" [HOOVER?] , age 54, then >living side by side on Potato Hollow Road [Fishing Creek Valley?]. Mary >HOOVER, age 87, was there and participated in our HOOVER genealogy >discussion. She was at home dying of cancer at the time. This is where I >learned that Edward HOOVER was born to David and Emma E, [HALL] HOOVER about >1872 [they said it was about the same time that John HOOVER m. to Kathryn >McCLAIN was born]. But it is possible that John HOOVER could have been born >about 1870 based on his first child, William E., being born 1890APR10. >This is where it gets sticky. Did David and Emma HALL have two children? >Further research and confirmation seems in order. Cathy, the above >indirectly relates to your Catharine SHEESLEY but it further fleshes out her >husband David HOOVER's family and first marriage details. I wish you every >success in your search. Stick with Linnea Miller,she'll steer you right. >Ray in IL >-----Original Message----- >From: Linnea Miller <ltmiller@mail.ptd.net> >To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:05 PM >Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] My Family Names - Sheesley > > >>Hi Cathy, >> >>The only SHEESLEY I have is a Catharine 1855 - 1916, Dauphin Co who married >>David Hoover b 18 Apr 1840 Ft. Hunter, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania d 11 >>Oct 1916 Enhaut, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania and buried in Oberlin. He was >>the son of John Hoover [1806 - 1882] & Susanna Stroh [1805 - 1886]. This >>was David's 2nd marriage [1st to Emma Elizabeth Hall [1847 - 1872]. David & >>Catharine had one child, Harry I Hoover [1882 - 1976] who was married >>twice. Not sure which order the wives are: Helen I Myers in 1906, >>Hagerstown MD and Daisy E. Conrad. I don't have any descendants listed for >>him. >> >>Hope this helps! >> >>- Linnea Travis Miller >> >>At 8:05 9/6/0, Cathy Spencer wrote: >>>Hi All! >>> >>>I've just joined this list and would like to let you know my family names >>>that I'm >>>researching. I have alot of information on some and little on others but >>>I'm willing >>>to share whatever I have. Of course, I'm looking for connections with all >>>of these >>>names so please contact me if you can help as some of them are brickwalls. >>> >>>My names are: >>>Adams, Bartlebaugh, Biddle, Brink, Cover, Dunmire/Donmire, Huey, Peace, >>>Pearce/Pierce, >>>Ross, Rowley, Salsgiver/Saltsgiver/Salsgeber, Sheasley/Sheesley, Shirley, >>>Staats/States >>>and Spencer. >>> >>>Please help if you can. >>> >>>Cathy Spencer >>>Descendant of All Above Family Names >>> >> >> >> >>==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >>KISS- Keep It Short & Simple >> > > >==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >KISS- Keep It Short & Simple

Hi Linnea and Cathy, Our HALL family records show that Emma HALL [1847-1872], first child of John and Frances O. [REA] HALL married David HOOVER, date unknown. Our records further indicate that she died in 1872 giving birth to Emma HOOVER. I do not know if their daughter survived childhood. On 1983May03 I visited Cloyd HOLTZAPPLE, age 67, married to Florence/Kathryn HOOVER and Hubert "Gibbie" [HOOVER?] , age 54, then living side by side on Potato Hollow Road [Fishing Creek Valley?]. Mary HOOVER, age 87, was there and participated in our HOOVER genealogy discussion. She was at home dying of cancer at the time. This is where I learned that Edward HOOVER was born to David and Emma E, [HALL] HOOVER about 1872 [they said it was about the same time that John HOOVER m. to Kathryn McCLAIN was born]. But it is possible that John HOOVER could have been born about 1870 based on his first child, William E., being born 1890APR10. This is where it gets sticky. Did David and Emma HALL have two children? Further research and confirmation seems in order. Cathy, the above indirectly relates to your Catharine SHEESLEY but it further fleshes out her husband David HOOVER's family and first marriage details. I wish you every success in your search. Stick with Linnea Miller,she'll steer you right. Ray in IL -----Original Message----- From: Linnea Miller <ltmiller@mail.ptd.net> To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] My Family Names - Sheesley >Hi Cathy, > >The only SHEESLEY I have is a Catharine 1855 - 1916, Dauphin Co who married >David Hoover b 18 Apr 1840 Ft. Hunter, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania d 11 >Oct 1916 Enhaut, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania and buried in Oberlin. He was >the son of John Hoover [1806 - 1882] & Susanna Stroh [1805 - 1886]. This >was David's 2nd marriage [1st to Emma Elizabeth Hall [1847 - 1872]. David & >Catharine had one child, Harry I Hoover [1882 - 1976] who was married >twice. Not sure which order the wives are: Helen I Myers in 1906, >Hagerstown MD and Daisy E. Conrad. I don't have any descendants listed for >him. > >Hope this helps! > >- Linnea Travis Miller > >At 8:05 9/6/0, Cathy Spencer wrote: >>Hi All! >> >>I've just joined this list and would like to let you know my family names >>that I'm >>researching. I have alot of information on some and little on others but >>I'm willing >>to share whatever I have. Of course, I'm looking for connections with all >>of these >>names so please contact me if you can help as some of them are brickwalls. >> >>My names are: >>Adams, Bartlebaugh, Biddle, Brink, Cover, Dunmire/Donmire, Huey, Peace, >>Pearce/Pierce, >>Ross, Rowley, Salsgiver/Saltsgiver/Salsgeber, Sheasley/Sheesley, Shirley, >>Staats/States >>and Spencer. >> >>Please help if you can. >> >>Cathy Spencer >>Descendant of All Above Family Names >> > > > >==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >KISS- Keep It Short & Simple >

Dear Paul, "A number of Woodsides resided in Lykens Valley before the Revolutionary War. John Woodside, Rob's great-great grandfather, was a vereran of the Revolutionary War. One of John's daughters, Mary Jane, was captured by the Indians. After living with them for approximately seven years, she was rescued, or "liberated" as we say today, and later married Simon Sallada. James D. Bowman, Jr., Millersburg insurance agent, is one of her descendants. Simon Sallada was a legislator and a canal constructor, having built the canal between Millersburg and Clarks Ferry. John Woodside had a grandson, Jacob whose grandmother on his mother's side was Catherine Row, sometimes written Rau. Her greatgrandfather, George Row, was killed by the Indians near New Berlin in Union County and is buried nearby at Salem Cemetery. Rob was well rooted in central Pennsylvania. Woodside station was the first stop on the Lykens Valley Railroad east of Millersburg, but in time the Woodsides left that area. Now the station, trains and even the covered bridge that led to the station are only memories." from page 18, My Life And Town by Robert E. Woodside Is the above Catherine Rau/Row: ( the same as: Catharine ROW born December 5, 1772 in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania married July 1, 1788 in St. David's Reformed Church, Killinger, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania died: April 19, 1841 in Millersburg, Dauphin County., Pennsylvania Age at death: 68 Father: Johannes Frederick (Rau) Row Mother: Catharine Schock) Do you have more family for Catherine Row? Shela Norton Greenlaw from Clayton, California where fall is in the air Paulpell61@aol.com wrote: > Hi Susan: > Could you check on John Woodside 1760-1835 [my patriot ancestor] [any other > Woodside's as well] and Henry Shell 1738-1804 > thanks...Paul Pell > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > KISS- Keep It Short & Simple

Dear Bob, YOU and your "crew" truly deserve the best wishes and many pats on the back from all of us on your hard work in making the Dauphin county PA site one of the BEST in the GenWeb project! Thank you all SO MUCH for all of the hard work and many, many hours you have devoted to the online community and those researching in this area. -Linnea Miller At 23:59 9/6/0, Robert L. Maley wrote: >4 years ago today the USGenWeb Dauphin County site opened for business. It >consisted of about 100k of documents. 4 years and over 92,000 hits later it >has grown to over 10MB of files with an additional 13MB of files at the 1875 >Atlas site. There have been over close to 2000 queries, obits, etc. posted >to the automated Query System. > >I want to thank all of the folks who have taken the time to submit >information and a special thanks to the folks who have helped and are >helping with transcriptions. A special thanks to Bob Blessing, who started >with me in the beginning. If it wasn't for him, the old surname and query >pages would have never been kept up. God rest his soul. > >Many new things are planned for the 5th year. The 1875 Atlas should be >finished. The Business Listings are being transcribed now. In the near >future a transcription project for the 1896 Commeritatuve Biographical >Encyclopedia of Dauphin County Pennsylvania will be launched. Also, a >project to consolidate small groups of family transcriptions of tombstones >into a central online database. Stay tuned. > > >Bob Maley, County Coordinator >============================================== >For all of your Internet shopping go to http://I-Mall.WS > > >==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >http://www.rootsweb.com

Hi Cathy, The only SHEESLEY I have is a Catharine 1855 - 1916, Dauphin Co who married David Hoover b 18 Apr 1840 Ft. Hunter, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania d 11 Oct 1916 Enhaut, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania and buried in Oberlin. He was the son of John Hoover [1806 - 1882] & Susanna Stroh [1805 - 1886]. This was David's 2nd marriage [1st to Emma Elizabeth Hall [1847 - 1872]. David & Catharine had one child, Harry I Hoover [1882 - 1976] who was married twice. Not sure which order the wives are: Helen I Myers in 1906, Hagerstown MD and Daisy E. Conrad. I don't have any descendants listed for him. Hope this helps! - Linnea Travis Miller At 8:05 9/6/0, Cathy Spencer wrote: >Hi All! > >I've just joined this list and would like to let you know my family names >that I'm >researching. I have alot of information on some and little on others but >I'm willing >to share whatever I have. Of course, I'm looking for connections with all >of these >names so please contact me if you can help as some of them are brickwalls. > >My names are: >Adams, Bartlebaugh, Biddle, Brink, Cover, Dunmire/Donmire, Huey, Peace, >Pearce/Pierce, >Ross, Rowley, Salsgiver/Saltsgiver/Salsgeber, Sheasley/Sheesley, Shirley, >Staats/States >and Spencer. > >Please help if you can. > >Cathy Spencer >Descendant of All Above Family Names >

Thanks to all who responded to the question of the best way to read worn grave stones. There certainly is a variety of thoughts on this. It seems though, the method of using infrared film (erroneously called ultraviolet film by me) is not widely known of, or if so, not widely used. As a method that would not touch the stone at all, it may hold some promise. If anyone comes across information on this, please pass it on to the List. Thanks again, Jay

Hi everyone, I need some help on this one, my grandfather was born in Steelton PA 1898, he has always been William Decatur WINDLE, but it seems that maybe his real father was somebody SANSOM, or maybe his mother Jennie R. COFFIN wasn't married when he was born and he was given her last name until she married Isaac Harrison WINDLE, I think I should look for birth record but I'm not sure where or which name to look under. If anyone can help thank you.

Thanks to all who responded to my question asking how to obtain these two books. Joyce On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 23:02:55 -0400 clandis@mindspring.com writes: > Does anyone know if Volumes I and II of the Dauphin County, PA > Tombstome > Inscriptions are available for purchase? Are they in the library? > > Joyce

These make a nice addition to a family collage of pictures for the wall when they are nicely framed and matted. A cousin of mine has a large wall in her family room with some of her oldest and nicest family pictures and these are with the collection. You can also get creative and use artist pastels too for a bit of color. Kaymarie sadercat wrote: > > This topic comes up from time to time on just about every list. One method > that I use is to take a LARGE sheet of paper (those of you in the IS field, > this is a great use for all those wasted greenbar reports - the unbursted > paper just goes on for miles!) and some artist's charcoals (very soft). I > strongly suggest a calm day for this, too <G>. I hold the paper up over the > engraving, and then play that little rubbing game we used to do as kids. If > you run the charcoal somewhat lightly over the inscriptions, you can get a > remarkably well done "copy" of the stone. I then take canning wax (parafin) > and rub it over the finished paper. That keeps the charcoal from being > smudged on the ride home - and virtually everafter. > There is no contact whatsoever between the charcoal and the stone, and the > rubbed image is as crystal clear as any. Plus, if you screw it up, you can > do it again on the same trip. > > Happy Rooting! > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > List Ownwer Nadine Hensley for list help please e-mail me at > ndwilson@swbell.net