I quite agree. Personally, I find all caps more difficult to read, but the information in the posting is most important. If someone gains some new information from it, I'm sure they would not care if it were all caps. Do whatever makes it easiest to share. Thanks. -- John -----Original Message----- From: Charles E. Fies, Retired [mailto:chasfies@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 4:01 PM To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PADAUPHI] Random Sample - All Caps FIFTY years ago I learned to take Morse Code and Typewriting both at the same time (Radio Operator in the Merchant Marines.) At that time someone made a decision to teach the typing on special ALL CAPS typewriters simply because it was easier if you didn't have to learn all that shifting while trying to understand the dots and dashes coming in like the devil (whatever that means). After six intensive months of typing and morse code morning, noon, and night, I had learned to master them both. Then I went to sea, and the Radio Rooms all had STANDARD typewriters! Took me a long time to learn all that shifting between upper and lower case, but I gradually mastered that, too. In a nutshell, you do what you do best. Standard typing (upper and lower case) is easier to read, naturally, especially with long 80-character wide sentences. So I learned to set the columns of received e-mails to narrower widths, and can read UPPER CASE a bit easier. So please, don't withhold valuable genealogy data because you can't shift. You may want to set your outgoing e-mail messages to 40 characters wide, and make it easier for EVERYBODY to read all upper case. Regards, Charlie Fies, ex Radio Officer, USMS. > > Pardon my intrusion but most people would appreciate it > > if you would not use caps. > > ***I THINK THAT"most people",PROBABLY WON'T MIND SO MUCH,IF > THEY KNOW I USE CAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO > READ. WHY DON'T YOU DO A RANDOM SAMPLE TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE > THINK ABOUT THAT? > SINCERELY, > IRIS AND JERRY HARTMAN -- CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html> ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== http://www.rootsweb.com

I believe it is "died single person", ie died unmarried. Dave Leebrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent E. Summers [SMTP:vsummers@nrao.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 8:39 AM > To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PADAUPHI] Issue: So-and-so, d.s.p. > > I can't wait any longer folks... ":O>) > > I have been typing d.s.p. over and over again for the Dauphin County > transcription work of Bob Maley, and I think, "Vince, you'll figure > it out, or someone will ask the same thing..." > > Afraid I have *not* figured it out. What does d.s.p. mean? I figure > it has something to do with the child either dying almost at birth, or > something like that, but do not have a clue... > > Vince Summers > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family

Thanks for posting the correct solution. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hawk" <whsaxman@philly.infi.net> To: <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Random Sample - All Caps > Typing in all caps is considered a violation of basic internet etiquette. It is > comparable to shouting all the time when speaking. > > Why not set your browser for a larger font so you can more easily read it? That > is what I do when the text is too small. > > Bill > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > DAUPHIN COUNTY PA GEN-WEB site > http://www.maley.net/dauphin/

I can't wait any longer folks... ":O>) I have been typing d.s.p. over and over again for the Dauphin County transcription work of Bob Maley, and I think, "Vince, you'll figure it out, or someone will ask the same thing..." Afraid I have *not* figured it out. What does d.s.p. mean? I figure it has something to do with the child either dying almost at birth, or something like that, but do not have a clue... Vince Summers

In a message dated 1/2/01 10:02:17 PM Central Standard Time, chasfies@worldnet.att.net writes: > > HI, > > > > I am looking for George and Elizabeth Rider. I feel certain they were in > > Dauphin County in the late 1700s. I have found two George Riders on > census > > for 1790. > > > > What other places can I look? Where/who can I write to or call to ask? > I > > understand churches would be a good place to look for birth/death > records. > > How do you find them? Are there any good reference books for this area? > > > > I haven't got the slightest idea how to conduct a good, thorough, search > at > > this point. Are there any libraries that can help? > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa Rider Shindlebower::}~ > > Could you furnish just a wee bit more information? > The following are a few RIDERs in the Geyer's > Hillsdale Cemetery, and there are loads of Riders in this > area. I've encountered name changes in the same family > spelling it Reider (we got lots of them, too!) > > > > 8 Rider Abraham H. 1909 1994 > 3 8 Rider D. June 1915 . > 2 1B 69 Rider Emma M. Huss 9-11-1893 6-14-1980 > 2 1A 70 Rider John B. 5-1-1855 10-31-1921 > The Riders I seek left Dauphin County in the range 1815-1819, they show in Wythe County, VA census in 1820. Although I have yet to find documented proof of the family structure of the men in Wythe County I believe it is like this... George & Elizabeth Rider and children William, Elizabeth, George, John and probably more that are so far unknown came to Wythe County, VA from Dauphin County. I have identified spouses of 3 of these children as follows: George & Barbary Rider Elizabeth & Daniel Hoofnagle (Daniel is from Dauphin County and Elizabeth's death certificate identifies her parents as George and Elizabeth Rider) William & Mary Hoofnagle (believed to be the sister of Daniel) John's spouse is unknown...he was a shoemaker and I descend from his son Isaac O. Rider b. 1804. I have at least some of the children of these couples and will be happy to post them if you think it will be helpful. The above men all name PA as the state of their birth, many of their children do too. Evidently these children were grown and married when the move took place. My entire chart is on the Internet at http://www.my-ged.com/rider and on Ancestry.com. John's descendants, as well as Daniel Hoofnagle and his descendants were shoemakers and tailors. George SRs. son George (married to Barbary) abandoned his family and dissappeared from Wythe in the 1820s. The couple's children show up in court records being bound out to learn the trade of tailor and in those records George is said to have "left the county". I have traced two of these sons through adulthood. Many of the appointed guardians, surnames marrying into the Rider family or tied in business transactions also have Dauphin county roots and many of them are either tailors or shoemakers. This in my brick wall. I would love to break it down. I feel as though if I could just find some records to sift through in the late 1700s, early 1800s in Dauphin I just might solve my mystery. I just don't know where on earth there is to look. Thanks for your interest and help, Lisa Rider Shindlebower

Typing in all caps is considered a violation of basic internet etiquette. It is comparable to shouting all the time when speaking. Why not set your browser for a larger font so you can more easily read it? That is what I do when the text is too small. Bill

Hi Howard I don't have these two names in my files, but I do have CASSEL(L), and they connect to SHAFFNER (Dauphin Co > Richland, Crawford and Shelby Co OH); SNYDER (PA > Rockingham Co VA > Preble Co OH); and SHAFFER/SHEFFER (Berks Co PA>Shenandoah Co VA>Wythe Co VA > Wayne Co IN/Preble Co OH > Lee Co IA. Perhaps we should compare notes. Jim Lewis, Seguin TX -----Original Message----- From: Howard Haggerty <hgh@verizon.net> To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 6:05 AM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Re: CASSEL >Hi, > >Look for info. on Mary K. & Hannah K. CASSEL. > >I have a cedar chest and on the inside of lid it says, This chest and all its contents belong to: Mary K. CASSEL and Hannah K. CASSEL 1884. >It's been in my family forever. > >Thanks' for any help, >Howard >hgh@verizon.net > >My family lines are. >ANGSTADT, BEILER, BOOTE, BREINEISER, BREITENSTEIN, CHRISTIAN, DIESHER, EISENHAUER, EISENHOWER, ESTERLY, GOODHART, GUTHARD, HAGGERTY, HERBEIN, KINSEY, KINTZI, KLINE, KOLB, KNABB, KRUG, LEPO, LEVAN, MILDENBERGER, NEIKIRCH, NEUKIRCH, NEVINS, RAUXEL, SCHEARER, SCHNEIDER, SCHUPP, SHAFFNER, SHUPP, SNYDER, STRUBEL, SCHAFER. > >______________________________

Lisa - When we started more than 15 years ago a librarian from a nearby LDS library gave me some help and ever since then I have been occasionally attempting to repay that debt - New Years seems like a good time to try it again. You mention census - and someone already pointed out a possible name variation - very important consideration. Somewhere near you there is Family History Library - I think usually listed that way in the telephone directory. Or try the nearest Church of the Latter Day Saints - LDS/Mormons. The FHL is usually in that church building. They have probably the most extensive genealogical holdings in the world. They are no more accurate then any other source of copied reworked material. Keep in mind that Dauphin County was not formed until 1785 - The Pennsylvania Archives are an excellent source of very early tax, military, deeds and even a few marriage licenses. But they are difficult to find and more than difficult to use. They are to be found in large public libraries in several states. If they owned land the County Recorder at the courthouse will have a record of purchase (grantee) and sale (grantor). Land deeds are a very important source of information for any ancestor who owned land. Title information is difficult to research and understand but it is a must do. Address County Recorder, Courthouse, Harrisburg, PA 17101, tel was 717-255-1352. Even if a land owner left no will the names of his surviving children, sometimes their location and their spouses name and the first name of his widow will be found when the transfer of his property is recorded. Keep in mind that this may not not be until years after his death, after the widow dies If he left a will it will be at the Prothonotary - same address. To find these courthouse records you must first find the index. If you send the index information, a check, an SAE, to the county recorder or the Prothonotary they will make a copy and send it to you. They are not required and usually will no longer do research or look ups - although in some courthouses this courtesy still prevails. I know of a source in Salt Lake City that will look up such indexes but there is a charge and I will not advertise for them - The Ohio Geneological Society and its state chapters have done a wonderful job of listing the information found on almost all of the cemeteries in Ohio - and most chapters have indexes of wills, marriages and early death records - but I know of no such source in Pennsylvania - I am sorry to say. It seems that this grand old state is way behind the younger state of Ohio. The rootsweb is a great resource. Be sure and use a title that will attract attention and give any dates and facts you know - the more you tell the more likely you will learn something - and above all go to your living ancestors and their siblings and ask every question you can as to how they lived and who their parents were - and be sure and ask about their religion, politics, and where did they think they came from. And do it now. I am working the Mater family -- Hill Lutheran Church, Derry Township, Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. Mater, John, s. of Jacob Mater, b. July 1, 1762; baptized July 4, 1762; witnesses, John Mater and wife. From Egle's Notes and Queries, page 48. Records of Baptisms XIV. I found that on Ancestor.com which requires a membership fee and sells such information on CD's. Family Tree Maker, Broderbund offers a free search oftheir files for surnames but then you must usually purchase their CD's. There are many similar sources and they are expensive and not entirely satisfactory.Perhaps some other Dauphin/Lebanon/Lancaster researchers will post their sources. It could be that George Mater, born abt 1796-1800 died in East Pennsboro, Cumberland County in 1848 is a descendant of this Mater family. I know about this George through the kindness of the Cumberland County Historical Society, 21 North Pitt Street. PO Box 626, Carlisle, PA 17013. They do who have volunteer researchers who will do limited research on a specific question. I suggest a contribution over and above copy and mailing costs. I do not know of such a source in Dauphin/Lebanon/Lancaster County. Some lists do not like to stray to far from genealogical data and I hope I have not offended someone who could not find the delete button - Happy New Year Lisa and good luck Regards Hal

Hi Lisa, If you join the Huron or Ashland OH mailing list I think you will find more info on your Mater family. I have Motter's which were Mater's (Matter's) that are probably related to your family one way or another. I've received wonderful info about them, but mine don't start for my relationships till the mid 1800's. I have info before that, but not sure if they are the same people you are looking for. Post your message to those lists, and I think you will get allot of returns. Myrna Singer Casey mybill@msn.com http://www.my-ged.com/singer/ Researching the following: Singer, PA & OH, Underhill, Samsel, Miller, Sturtevant, Fox, Livenspire, Day, May, Swineford, Motter, Bentz, Richard, Mehl, in Ashland/Richland, Ohio; Gristy, McIntosh, Saigaman, Dunn, in Kentucky; Bloxham, PA, Personette, Houchins, IN & MN, Hobbs,WV, McDonald, McClellan, Paranto, Webb, Casey in WA

I think part of it depends on the settings of the individual mail program. I use a more creative looking font on my computer (that's me - different) and all caps are a bit harder to read. Also when you get a lot of email as some of us do, it is easier when a letter is in upper and lower case and surnames in all caps. It is easy to glance through a message looking for specific surnames instead of reading the entire message. When you have a lot of email, it saves a lot of time. I average 100 per day and I know others that get more. I don't have time to read every message and glance through for anything important when it comes to gen. lists like this. This is my two cents worth and others may or may not agree. Kaymarie "Charles E. Fies, Retired" wrote: > FIFTY years ago I learned to take Morse Code and Typewriting both at > the same time (Radio Operator in the Merchant Marines.) At that time > someone made a decision to teach the typing on special ALL CAPS > typewriters simply because it was easier if you didn't have to learn all > that shifting while trying to understand the dots and dashes coming in > like the devil (whatever that means). After six intensive months of > typing and morse code morning, noon, and night, I had learned to master > them both. > > Then I went to sea, and the Radio Rooms all had STANDARD typewriters! > Took me a long time to learn all that shifting between upper and lower > case, but I gradually mastered that, too. > > In a nutshell, you do what you do best. Standard typing (upper and > lower case) is easier to read, naturally, especially with long > 80-character wide sentences. So I learned to set the columns of > received e-mails to narrower widths, and can read UPPER CASE a bit > easier. > > So please, don't withhold valuable genealogy data because you can't > shift. You may want to set your outgoing e-mail messages to 40 > characters wide, and make it easier for EVERYBODY to read all upper > case. Regards, Charlie Fies, ex Radio Officer, USMS. > > > > Pardon my intrusion but most people would appreciate it > > > if you would not use caps. > > > > ***I THINK THAT"most people",PROBABLY WON'T MIND SO MUCH,IF > > THEY KNOW I USE CAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO > > READ. WHY DON'T YOU DO A RANDOM SAMPLE TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE > > THINK ABOUT THAT? > > SINCERELY, > > IRIS AND JERRY HARTMAN > -- > CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> > BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> > DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> > ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> > FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> > Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> > FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> > HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> > SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> > SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> > SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> > WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> > ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html> > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > http://www.rootsweb.com

FIFTY years ago I learned to take Morse Code and Typewriting both at the same time (Radio Operator in the Merchant Marines.) At that time someone made a decision to teach the typing on special ALL CAPS typewriters simply because it was easier if you didn't have to learn all that shifting while trying to understand the dots and dashes coming in like the devil (whatever that means). After six intensive months of typing and morse code morning, noon, and night, I had learned to master them both. Then I went to sea, and the Radio Rooms all had STANDARD typewriters! Took me a long time to learn all that shifting between upper and lower case, but I gradually mastered that, too. In a nutshell, you do what you do best. Standard typing (upper and lower case) is easier to read, naturally, especially with long 80-character wide sentences. So I learned to set the columns of received e-mails to narrower widths, and can read UPPER CASE a bit easier. So please, don't withhold valuable genealogy data because you can't shift. You may want to set your outgoing e-mail messages to 40 characters wide, and make it easier for EVERYBODY to read all upper case. Regards, Charlie Fies, ex Radio Officer, USMS. > > Pardon my intrusion but most people would appreciate it > > if you would not use caps. > > ***I THINK THAT"most people",PROBABLY WON'T MIND SO MUCH,IF > THEY KNOW I USE CAPS BECAUSE THEY ARE MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO > READ. WHY DON'T YOU DO A RANDOM SAMPLE TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE > THINK ABOUT THAT? > SINCERELY, > IRIS AND JERRY HARTMAN -- CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

Hi, I am new to this list and I am looking for any information on my ancestors, Joseph Hollinger, b.1819 in Daupin Co. and his wife Elizabeth or Lizzie Balsbaugh b.1824, but not sure where. I believe she was born in PA. Both died in Illinois in 1900. Their children are Fannie, Abe and Lizzie B. Does anyone know who Elizabeth Balsbaugh's parents are, or when Joseph and Elizabeth were married? Thanks, Lori in IL

Howard Haggerty wrote: > Hi, > > Look for info. on Mary K. & Hannah K. CASSEL. > > I have a cedar chest and on the inside of lid it says, This chest and all its contents belong to: Mary K. CASSEL and Hannah K. CASSEL 1884. > It's been in my family forever. > > Thanks' for any help, > Howard::}~ Where in the world????? -- CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

Hi, Look for info. on Mary K. & Hannah K. CASSEL. I have a cedar chest and on the inside of lid it says, This chest and all its contents belong to: Mary K. CASSEL and Hannah K. CASSEL 1884. It's been in my family forever. Thanks' for any help, Howard hgh@verizon.net My family lines are. ANGSTADT, BEILER, BOOTE, BREINEISER, BREITENSTEIN, CHRISTIAN, DIESHER, EISENHAUER, EISENHOWER, ESTERLY, GOODHART, GUTHARD, HAGGERTY, HERBEIN, KINSEY, KINTZI, KLINE, KOLB, KNABB, KRUG, LEPO, LEVAN, MILDENBERGER, NEIKIRCH, NEUKIRCH, NEVINS, RAUXEL, SCHEARER, SCHNEIDER, SCHUPP, SHAFFNER, SHUPP, SNYDER, STRUBEL, SCHAFER.

Seeking printout of article "Samuel Goodlander-Sarah Bennage Family, Pennsylvania" in MARCH 1967 issue of "Pennsylvania Genealogy Magazine," plus printout of magazine cover and index. Will happily pay for copies and postage. Please E-mail privately: Rjob1502@AOL.com

The following additions were placed on the Dauphin County GenWeb site at http://maley.net/dauphin and the Transcription Project at http://maley.net/transcription/ in the month of December, 2000. 22 Dec 2000 - A new Township specific interactive message board has been added. 22 Dec 2000 - 8 new biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project 20 Dec 2000 - New images added - scans of a 50th anniversary book of the Steel High class of 1899 18 Dec 2000 - 10 new biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project 16 Dec 2000 - 70 new biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project 1 Dec 2000 - 154 New biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project 1 Dec 2000 - Added a high bandwidth page for Shell's cemetery. (At 28.8 will take 10 minutes to load) 1 Dec 2000 - Added a success story 1 Dec 2000 - New info about the P.O.S. posted 1 Dec 2000 - New address for West Shore Y Genealogy Club 1 Dec 2000 - 124 more New biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project 1 Dec 2000 - 30 New biographies posted to Biographical Encyclopedia Dauphin County Transcription Project Bob Maley

Seeking to identify parents and siblings of George Snyder b. 1823 below. 1850 Census, So. Hanover Twp., Dauphin Co, PA, p. 110 George Snyder age 26 Spouse - Elizabeth (Hoover) Rebecca age 5 John 4 George W. 2 Abraham 1 (My grandfather) Isaac Hoover 17 (likely brother of Elizabeth) Seeking to identify parents and siblings of George. Moved to Monroe Co., MI in 1854. Searching for information and contacts relative to the following George and John Snyders. 1830 Census of Derry Twp. (pg.. 114) lists a George Snyder, age 40-50 but no son, one female under 5, three females 5-10, one female 10-15, and one female 20-30 that may be the spouse. Jacob Miller and John Kersnlick are neighbors (listed near each other on the same census page.) 1840 Census of Derry Twp. (pg. 259) lists a George Snyder 50-60 years old having a son 10-15 years old. Only male child listed in 1840. Female children listed: one age 10-15, two age 15-20, and one age 20-30. None the right age to be a spouse. Spouse appears to have died before 1840. 1850 Census lists a George Snyder, age 60, in Mechanichtown, Derry Twp., with Sarah, 27, Eliza, 21, and Simon 19. 1860 Census shows a John Snyder age 60 in the household of George and Elizabeth Snyder in Ida Twp., Monroe Co., MI at age 60. I assume he is George's father or uncle. Tombstone listing -- Cemetery of The Lutherische and Reformed Church, South side of West Main St., Palmyra, PA. George Snyder b. Aug, 3, 1790; d. Mar 25, 1851. Another George Snyder is listed in 1850 Census, pg. 230, Harrisburg, age 64, Catharine 53, and Samuel 27. Bob Snyder Midland, MI Rcs3612@aol.com

Searching for information and contacts relative to the following George and John Snyders. 1830 Census of Derry Twp. (pg.. 114) lists a George Snyder, age 40-50 but no son, one female under 5, three females 5-10, one female 10-15, and one female 20-30 that may be the spouse. Jacob Miller and John Kersnlick are neighbors (listed near each other on the same census page.) 1840 Census of Derry Twp. (pg. 259) lists a George Snyder 50-60 years old having a son 10-15 years old. Only male child listed in 1840. Female children listed: one age 10-15, two age 15-20, and one age 20-30. None the right age to be a spouse. Spouse appears to have died before 1840. 1850 Census lists a George Snyder, age 60, in Mechanichtown, Derry Twp., with Sarah, 27, Eliza, 21, and Simon 19. 1860 Census shows a John Snyder age 60 in the household of George and Elizabeth Snyder in Ida Twp., Monroe Co., MI at age 60. I assume he is George's father or uncle. Tombstone listing -- Cemetery of The Lutherische and Reformed Church, South side of West Main St., Palmyra, PA. George Snyder b. Aug, 3, 1790; d. Mar 25, 1851. Another George Snyder is listed in 1850 Census, pg. 230, Harrisburg, age 64, Catharine 53, and Samuel 27. Bob Snyder Midland, MI Rcs3612@aol.com

LisaShindl@aol.com wrote: > HI, > > I am looking for George and Elizabeth Rider. I feel certain they were in > Dauphin County in the late 1700s. I have found two George Riders on census > for 1790. > > What other places can I look? Where/who can I write to or call to ask? I > understand churches would be a good place to look for birth/death records. > How do you find them? Are there any good reference books for this area? > > I haven't got the slightest idea how to conduct a good, thorough, search at > this point. Are there any libraries that can help? > > Thanks, > Lisa Rider Shindlebower::}~ Could you furnish just a wee bit more information? The following are a few RIDERs in the Geyer's Hillsdale Cemetery, and there are loads of Riders in this area. I've encountered name changes in the same family spelling it Reider (we got lots of them, too!) 8 Rider Abraham H. 1909 1994 3 8 Rider D. June 1915 . 2 1B 69 Rider Emma M. Huss 9-11-1893 6-14-1980 2 1A 70 Rider John B. 5-1-1855 10-31-1921 2 1A 68 Rider William M. 9-25-1884 6-27-1977 > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one doesn't say. And Dauphin County took in a lot of territory before it was split up. Regards, with apologies to Netscape 6 users! -- CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

In a message dated 1/2/01 8:07:50 PM Central Standard Time, sharon1@cfl.rr.com writes: << Hi Cricket, We were discussing some of these stories about a year ago or so I think it was! There are quite a few...............there's one about a headless ghost who was a railroad man that lost his head in a tragic accident in Stony Valley! I'll look and see if I still have them......probably not though and I'm afraid I don't remember them anymore.....or maybe this will get everyone else started! Sharon Frank in Fl. sharon1@cfl.rr.com >> Thanks so much for your help Sharon:):):) cricket