It's bob@maley.net >From: RogerCubs@aol.com >Reply-To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com >To: PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PADAUPHI] Bob Maley's address >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:10:24 EST > >I need to contact Bob Maley. Can Bob or someone let me know what it is. > >Thanks, Roger Cramer > > >==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode >then e-mail PADAUPHI-L-request@rootsweb.com or >PADAUPHI-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I'm looking for help with the Dauphin Co. Keefer family and a connection to Ogle Co., IL. Would appreciate help from anyone with information. Descendants of Keefer 1 KEEFER d: Bef. 1850 Age at death: ? .. +CATHERINE . 2 Andrew K. KEEFER b: Abt. 1828 ..... +Mary MOYER b: Abt. 1830 ..... 3 John A. KEEFER b: Abt. 1848 ..... 3 Joseph H. KEEFER b: 1849 in Lykens Valley, Dauphin Co., PA d: 1942 Burial: Lightsville Cemetery near Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL Age at death: 93 est. ......... +Amelia C. REBER b: August 8, 1856 in IL m: December 18, 1879 in Mt. Morris, Ogle Co., IL d: 1945 Burial: Lightsville Cemetery near Leaf River, Ogle Co., IL Age at death: 89 est. Father: Charles Bright Reber Mother: Mary Shirk ......... 4 Mary Minerva KEEFER ............. +Ernest O. STORER . 2 John KEEFER b: Abt. 1830 . 2 Catherine KEEFER b: Abt. 1836 . 2 Richard KEEFER b: Abt. 1838 . 2 Joseph KEEFER b: Abt. 1843 Roger Cramer Peoria, AZ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RogerCubs/index.html">Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site</A> http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html

I am trying to find information on a George NORTH who lived in Dauphin County in 1790. He is listed in the 1790 census as George NOOL and also had a brother living nearby by the name of Jacob North (census shows Jacob NORTILE). George was confirmed at Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg in 1779. He was the son of Daniel and Anna Margaret North. I cannot find any record of George's marriage (wife unknown) or record of the birth of his first seven children (David, George, John, Sarah, Mary, Susanna and Elizabeth). Around 1796 the family moved to Washington County, Maryland and they are found in the 1800 census in Washington County. Any help would be appreciated. Paul North

Charlie Fies Thanks for the lookup on Henry Shell Paul Pell

----- Original Message ----- From: <Paulpell61@aol.com> To: <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Egle's Notes--Henry Shell > Is there a reference to Henry Shell somewhere around pages 90-97. > If so can you e-mail me there reference... Thanks Paul Pell ::}~ Knowing a wee bit more about your Henry Shell would have helped. Egle's Notes were published in 13 volumes, and I presume each have pages numbered 90-97. A Henry Shell was listed as residing in Londonderry Township around 1777. A Henry Shell was listed as a Tavernkeeper in 1783. No other details on any Henry Shell. Regaards, Charlie Fies

I need to contact Bob Maley. Can Bob or someone let me know what it is. Thanks, Roger Cramer

Thanks, Charles

----- Original Message ----- From: Saundra Buck <sbuck@resiusa.org> To: <chasfies@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: Kohr family > Hi, > > I am writing again because in your email you said you "had other sources". I > am still searching for more information on Sarah Alice Wetzel Kohr Fager who > was my great grandmother. She was married to William Fager and they are both > buried at Geyers Hilldale Cemetery. She is listed in our family Bible as > being the daughter of William Kohr b. 1938, (snip, snip) > Saundra J. Buck, Social Science Researcher Just got back from a picture-taking session in Geyer's Church Cemetery, and got fair shots of Wm & S. Alice's obelisk. It was difficult to make out several years ago, and didn't get any better since then. The photos are over 100 KB, but if you want them, I'll be glad to shoot them off to you. Incidentally, nearly all the other surnames you mention above are buried in the same general area of Geyer's Cemetery; about Rows 18 through 20, right along Hillsdale Road and the access road into the cemetery. If it hadn't been raining, I would have shot them all. Regards, Charlie Fies

Is there a reference to Henry Shell somewhere around pages 90-97. If so can you e-mail me there reference...Thanks Paul Pell

Is Elizabeth Balsbaugh, daughter of Abraham Balsbaugh Jr. part of the line you are looking for? Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Proper <p_proper@hotmail.com> To: <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Re: Digest mention of Egle's Notes > Charles: Evidently I do need this CD you recommended: Egle's Notes. Where > do I make this contact? > I am researching the Balsbaugh, Books and Buck surnames of Dauphin Co. > Sincerely, Patricia Books Proper > ********************************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Saundra Buck <sbuck@resiusa.org> To: <chasfies@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: Kohr family > Hi, > > I am writing again because in your email you said you "had other sources". I > am still searching for more information on Sarah Alice Wetzel Kohr Fager who > was my great grandmother. She was married to William Fager and they are both > buried at Geyers Hilldale Cemetery. She is listed in our family Bible as > being the daughter of William Kohr b. 1938, and Catherine Rahn, who are also > buried at Geyers. The problem is that I have been in touch with Bill Deimler > who is also descended from the Kohrs and on his information on William and > Catherine Rahn there is no S. Alice or Alice listed as a daughter. And > according to his information there is no Alice on the census records for the > following decades. Also, our family Bible has her birth year as 1869 and on > your website it has her birth year as 1859? On the information Bill sent me > William and Catherine had a child named Annie Rahn Kohr in 1869, but she > died before 1880. If Alice was born in 1859 she was born 3 years before Wm. > and Catherine were married in 1862. (Not impossible, but I tend to believe > the family Bible, it is very old and written in German). The other really > puzzling thing is that she is listed on our records as Sarah Alice Wetzel > Kohr, not as Sarah Alice Rahn Kohr which is how all the other children were > named using their mothers maiden name. It tends to indicate that perhaps she > had a different mother. In that case the 1859 birth year would make sense. > > HELP! Do you know who I could contact to get the cemetery records "lot > cards", or who would have the funeral records, or do you have any > suggestions of anyone else I could contact to help me solve this mystery? > Any assistance would be very much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Saundra J. Buck, Social Science Researcher - RESI - Towson University First things first - The tombstones were recorded several years ago by a team (Zeigler, Huss and others), and where they could not determine with certainty the engravings, placed a question mark, such as in both Alice and William's case. Stick by your date as recorded in the bible, because the stone can not be accurately read. And what you see on the Cemetery Records is what I got from them. The caretakers/gravediggers are part-time workers, and do not keep records other than the actual graves; sometimes Funeral Directors are mentioned. I've gotten a single response from one of them after numerous queries, and reviewed what records they keep. Also, the Cemetery Association does NOT keep family records on the people buried there. Your best source would be the church records from which the relative was buried, and I do not know if anyone has transcribed them (presuming it was Geyer's Church, but not necessarily so). Throughout this community there are many cases where the mother died in childbirth, and the surviving child was raised by brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles, church members, close friends, or whoever happened to take over. Frequently the surname of the family 'adopting' the child was used, and now try to follow that line! I've been tracking down one 'relative' through a chain of mothers dying in childbirth, and STILL don't know the right name to look for! Have fun, in spite of the rain. - Charlie Fies

----- Original Message ----- From: <Linumbienn@aol.com> To: <chasfies@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Egle's Notes CD > Hi Charles, > Noticed with interest your response (Dauphin County List) on the FTM CD > covering Egle's notes. Can I add my voice to those who would like to know > where to buy this CD? Also, do you know if it is necessary to have the FTM > software to make use of the CD? I am researching the THOME surname and wonder > if there are instances of this surname on the CD? John Thome was a Justice > of the Peace in Lebanon durring the American Revolution and later was the > Lebanon County Treasurer. I have found useful information about John and his > decendents in a book entitled, "History of Lebanon County", by Egle, but it > sounds like these CD notes are a different source. Thanks for any help. > > George (soon to be retired!)::}~ > JOHN THOME, born 1738, died Oct 8, 1804 is referenced throughout Egle's Notes about 13 times, including a son JOHN THOME and NANCY ROBINSON, married by Rev. Snodgrass on April 16, 1807. There are quite a few other references to various THOME names, also,. Your Inbox (or maybe Trash Bin) should contain at least half a dozen references to sources of Egle's CD, including direct from FTW (Family Tree Maker for Windows). Regards, Charlie Fies

At 8:33 PM -0500 2/13/01, Hopsandmelb@aol.com wrote: >I notice you are researching the Balsbaugh line. I have a Bowman/Balsbaugh >marriage. Do you want to exchange info? > > >==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== >Who, Where, When. >A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 >A bad one says: ........ My family Does anyone know anything about the Balsbaugh who was associated with the Annville Academy in the mid-1800's? -Linnea

I notice you are researching the Balsbaugh line. I have a Bowman/Balsbaugh marriage. Do you want to exchange info?

Charles, on your say so, I have also ordered this CD. I think you should get a percentage of each one sold through this list, lol. I am looking forward to browsing through it. Thanks for the heads up. Yvonne

Charles: Evidently I do need this CD you recommended: Egle's Notes. Where do I make this contact? I am researching the Balsbaugh, Books and Buck surnames of Dauphin Co. Sincerely, Patricia Books Proper ********************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

This is really too funny. A while ago, I wrote FTM and told them they really needed to revamp if they were going to stay viable in today's genealogy market. That they needed to make grassroots changes, and I specifically told them what changes I thought they needed to make and why. It is too much to think this is the response. Most likely, my letter was canned. But I did try to be as sincere as possible, and was very lengthy and specific. Who knows? Maybe someone heard. Naaah! Anyway, in my estimate, they are trying to gain ground they have lost through multiple ownership changes, and the power moves Ancestry has made. So I suspect they are switching to subscriptions, and intend to fly the CD market out the window, dropping it altogether. One cannot give free lookups from subscriptions quite as easily. It takes a lot of work, and discourages massive lookups for free. Also, it lowers overhead. No manufacturing necessary for subscriptions. Not to waste the list's time, I just had to write about this coincidence, and to say it is likely a move by the former Broderbund, to keep from going down like the Titanic. Vince Summers > www.FamilyTreeMaker.com/blowout > > or by phone 1-800-548-1806 > > I think they meant FTM not FTW > A really great sale going on right now. > > Lyndy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MariposaKC@aol.com> > To: <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Inquiry about EGLE's Notes & Queries > > > > Where can one purchase the CD for $9.95? What is FTW? Thanks > > > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family >

----- Original Message ----- From: ELN/046JB: First ELN/046JB:Last <mhumenik@sprintmail.com> To: Charles E. Fies, Retired <chasfies@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: RE: Egle's Notes and Queries > Hi Charles, > > I have seen your messages on the PADauphin list and was wondering if you > would mind checking to see if there are any of the following: > FRONK - 4 > FRANK - 33 > FRANKE - 1 > FRANCK - 11 > FRANCK - 11 > > Thanks, > > Martha Humenik Egle's Notes refers to the individual surnames the number of times shown. In lots of cases it is the same, active individual mentioned in various situations > Charles E. Fies

No I didn't actually list them. There are 216 individual cemeteries in the book. Since the book went to press, I have located an additional 12. I travelled all of Dauphin County to locate each cemetery that is listed. Karl

Margie: Could we please have a bit more about your Zimmerman, like WHERE in the world? Dauphin county is not a tiny hamlet, and there are ZILLIONS of Zimmerman families around. I know. I gave up. Regards, Charlie Fies ----- Original Message ----- From: margie <margie@paonline.com> To: <PADAUPHI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Zimmerman > This is for Carolyn Murray-Leinweber. You had a message that you were looking for Zimmermans in Dauphin County. I tried to contact you but my message bounced back. What Zimmermans are you researching? I have been trying to find out something about the Zimmermans from whose home my gr gr grandmother was buried. > Margie > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family > >