maybe I can help you - Lived in that area all my life until 4 years ago - moved to a retirement community I have records of the cemetery at Enders, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Ranieri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Re: 1876 Teacher's Diary > David, > Thank you for the information about Lebanon County. I spoke to someone > there and there is clearly a bit of confusion as to where this belongs. > The diarist mentions going to Halifax to have breeches cut -- and I > gather Halifax is in Dauphin County. > According to information I found on a Web site, the diarist's parents may > be buried in an Enders Cemetery -- and I gather that is in Dauphin County, > too. > The 1870 and 1880 census records in which I found the teacher state that > he was in Jackson Twp, Dauphin County, in (near?) Lykens -- and Lykens is in > Dauphin County. > I believe I was also told that Jackson Twp became part of Lebanon County > long before these censuses were done. > I think I will e-mail a transcription of the diary to both county > historical societies and see if we can determine exactly in which county > this belongs. > Thanks for the help. > Lynne > > > > That area is in the today, Lebanon Co.,PA. So A copy should got to the > > Lebanon Co. Historical Society, 924 Cumberlnad St., Lebanon, PA 17042. > > Sounds nice. > > Thanks > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > DAUPHIN COUNTY PA GEN-WEB site > http://www.maley.net/dauphin/ > > >

David, Thank you for the information about Lebanon County. I spoke to someone there and there is clearly a bit of confusion as to where this belongs. The diarist mentions going to Halifax to have breeches cut -- and I gather Halifax is in Dauphin County. According to information I found on a Web site, the diarist's parents may be buried in an Enders Cemetery -- and I gather that is in Dauphin County, too. The 1870 and 1880 census records in which I found the teacher state that he was in Jackson Twp, Dauphin County, in (near?) Lykens -- and Lykens is in Dauphin County. I believe I was also told that Jackson Twp became part of Lebanon County long before these censuses were done. I think I will e-mail a transcription of the diary to both county historical societies and see if we can determine exactly in which county this belongs. Thanks for the help. Lynne > That area is in the today, Lebanon Co.,PA. So A copy should got to the > Lebanon Co. Historical Society, 924 Cumberlnad St., Lebanon, PA 17042. > Sounds nice. > Thanks

Henry Fronk was appointed administrator for Peter Marsh of Halifax, who left two children, Abner and John. Peter Marsh had a 10 acre tract of land in Halifax, this land adjoined Benjamin Isenhaurer. Peter Marsh also served in the 152nd Regiment with Frederick Fronk during the War of 1812. Does anyone have any other information on this Peter Marsh? When he may have come to the Halifax area? Marcia Fronk

Bill, Thanks. There are some Frank/Fronk family buried in the old section of the Methodist Cemetery in Halifax. I wish I could find some early records of that congregation. I have looked at the records of the Quarterly Meetings of the Methodist Evangelical Church, Dauphin County Circuit, 1808-1874, but found very little mention of the local congregation. I have seen the information on the Newbecker family that is online from the Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin County transcription. Mentions that Philip Newbecker Jr. was a blacksmith and gunsmith. Marcia Fronk > Hi, there is a Phillip Newbecker 7/6/1787-7/21/1865 and wife Mary > 3/10/1787-11/19/1868. united mthodist cem. halifax. could this be your > P.?????? Bill > > Anyone researching the Peter Newbaker family that was in Halifax Twp. > > in the 1830-1840 time frame? My Fronk family seems to have some ties > > to the family, Frederick Fronk was a tenant of a P. Newbaker in 1843-44 > > and was listed as a carpenter. > > What I would like to know is what occupation Peter had and what church > > his family was a member of. Also, if any Newbakers married any > Fronk/Franks. > > > > Marcia Fronk

This is what I have on the Kinsey Line if anyone has any other info please let me know. Thanks Dan Geyer Descendants of Christian Kinsey Generation No. 1 1. CHRISTIAN1 KINSEY was born 1819 in Pennsylvania, and died Unknown. He married MARY A.. She was born 1832 in Pennsylvania, and died Unknown. Children of CHRISTIAN KINSEY and MARY A. are: 2. i. HENRY M2 KINSEY, b. 1869; d. Unknown. ii. SAMUEL KINSEY, b. 1856; d. Unknown. iii. MARY KINSEY, b. 1858; d. Unknown. iv. ZACHARY KINSEY, b. 1864; d. Unknown. v. CATHERINE KINSEY, b. 1865; d. Unknown. vi. OLIVER KINSEY, b. 1868; d. Unknown. vii. EMMA L KINSEY, b. 1871; d. Unknown. viii. DAVID KINSEY, b. 1875; d. Unknown. ix. SIMON KINSEY, b. 1877; d. Unknown. x. BARBARA KINSEY, b. 1879; d. Unknown. Generation No. 2 2. HENRY M2 KINSEY (CHRISTIAN1) was born 1869, and died Unknown. He married IRENE I. She was born 1863, and died Unknown. Children of HENRY KINSEY and IRENE are: 3. i. NATHAN G3 KINSEY, b. September 12, 1895; d. January 27, 1990; Stepchild. ii. JOHN B KINSEY, b. 1899; d. Unknown. Generation No. 3 3. NATHAN G3 KINSEY (HENRY M2, CHRISTIAN1) was born September 12, 1895, and died January 27, 1990. He married MYRTLE. She was born June 2, 1895 in New Cumberland Cumberland Co PA, and died February 1975 in New Cumberland Cumberland Co PA. Notes for NATHAN G KINSEY: SS# 207-09-1339 This may be His parents Henry M Kinsey Birthplace: Pennsylvania State: PA Age: 52 Color: W Enumeration District: 0041 Visit: 0209 County: Cumberland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: RelationName AgeBirth Place WifeIrene E 46 Pennsylvania Son Henry L17 Pennsylvania Son Nathan S 14 Pennsylvania Son John11 Pennsylvania Notes for MYRTLE: 2 SS# 191-26-6941 Child of NATHAN KINSEY and MYRTLE is: 4. i. WILBUR CHESTER4 KINSEY, b. November 27, 1930, Lewisberry York Co PA; d. February 12, 1993, Etters York Co PA. Generation No. 4 4. WILBUR CHESTER4 KINSEY (NATHAN G3, HENRY M2, CHRISTIAN1) was born November 27, 1930 in Lewisberry York Co PA, and died February 12, 1993 in Etters York Co PA. He married MARION JUNE TWIGG Private, daughter of FREDRICK TWIGG and JOSEPHINE BRANT. She was born Private. Notes for WILBUR CHESTER KINSEY: SS#177-24-6455 More About WILBUR CHESTER KINSEY: Burial: Unknown, On Property

I found Ann and several of the children in the 1880 census. If you don't mind receiving an attachment, I can send it to you. Let me know. Coleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PADAUPHI] Re: PADAUPHI-D Digest V04 #22 I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS INFRO. ON THE DOYLES OF DAUPHIN CO. OFF 1860, 70, 80, THE FATHER WAS FRANCIS ,MOTHER WAS ANN,AND KIDS ARE MARGARET, THOMAS, JULIA,JOHN, CATHERINE,MARTIN,ANNIE AND PATRICK. JOE ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== KISS- Keep It Short & Simple

I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS INFRO. ON THE DOYLES OF DAUPHIN CO. OFF 1860, 70, 80, THE FATHER WAS FRANCIS ,MOTHER WAS ANN,AND KIDS ARE MARGARET, THOMAS, JULIA,JOHN, CATHERINE,MARTIN,ANNIE AND PATRICK. JOE

Hi, there is a Phillip Newbecker 7/6/1787-7/21/1865 and wife Mary 3/10/1787-11/19/1868. united mthodist cem. halifax. could this be your P.?????? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Houston <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:50 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Peter Newbaker, Halifax Twp. 1830's > Anyone researching the Peter Newbaker family that was in Halifax Twp. > in the 1830-1840 time frame? My Fronk family seems to have some ties > to the family, Frederick Fronk was a tenant of a P. Newbaker in 1843-44 > and was listed as a carpenter. > What I would like to know is what occupation Peter had and what church > his family was a member of. Also, if any Newbakers married any Fronk/Franks. > > Marcia Fronk > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > KISS- Keep It Short & Simple > >

That area is in the today, Lebanon Co.,PA. So A copy should got to the Lebanon Co. Historical Society, 924 Cumberlnad St., Lebanon, PA 17042. Sounds nice. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Ranieri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:25 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Re: 1876 Teacher's Diary > This monring, while browsing at my favorite flea market (in northern NJ) > I found -- and bought -- an 1876 diary of a PA school teacher. The seller > labeled it from Lancaster County, but when I returned home and read bits of > it I found that it was from Jackson Twp. in Dauphin County (-- > coincidentally, the ancestral home of my Witmer ancestors. I found the > teacher/author, Cornelius B. WILBERT in the 1880 census for that area and > his occupation is listed as "Teacher Public School." > Some of the names that I saw mentioned were: > > - ENDERS (many) > - BOWMAN (briefly) > - LOOSE (the preacher) > - KILLINGER (another teacher) > - EISENHOWER (very brief mention) > - HELT > - MILLER > - KNOUFF (?) > - BALTZELL (preacher) > > and more, I am sure. > The entries are not long and although I may be dead before I finish, I am > happy to start transcribing this and sharing it somewhere. > The chores of the teacher are not described in great detail at all and > more attention is given to his extraneous activities -- and only brief > mention of those, too. One of the amusing parts is that he and his friends > apparently meet regularly to debate issues. They eventaully come to a > conclusion about the issues and declare a resolution about them. The end of > the diary has the following resolutions: > > 1. Resolved: That Washington deserves more honor for liberating his > country than Columbus for discovering it. > > 2. Resolved: That poverty develops character better than riches. > > 3. Resolved: That foreign emigration should be encouraged. > > 4. Resolved: That war produces more misery than intemperance. > > 5. Resolved: That Major Andre should not have been executed. > > 6. Resolved: That there is more pleasure in the pursuit of an object > than in the possession of it. > > 7. Resolved: That education is a better safe-guard against crime than > punishment. > > 8. Resolved: That Major Arnold deserves all the censure that has been > given him. > > 9. Resolved: That the U.S. requires more skilled labor than she is able > to furnish. > > 10. Resolved: That the works of art are more pleasing than the works of > nature. > > 11. Resolved: That a lawyer is justifiable in defending a person whom he > knows to be guilty. > > 12. Resolved: That parents are more responsible for the training of > their children than teachers. > > 13: Resolved: That public opinion not be regarded as a standard of > right. > > 14. Resolved: That the pillary and whipping post should be established > in Penn. > > 15. Resolved: That the time put to the study of history in this school > be better utilized by taking something else in substitution. > > 16. Resolved: That it was expedient to extent a general amnesty to the > school. > > 17. Resolved: That wisdom is more desirable than military power. > > 18: Resolved: That cooperation will provide the virtue and happiness of > mankind to a higher degree than competition. > > 19. Resolved: That genius is gradually declining. > > 20. Is woman better adapted to teach the young than men? > > 21. Should the negro be enfranchised. > > 22. That Daniel Webster was a better statesman than Henry Clay. > > > Can the Dauphin County Rootsweb list members suggest a proper place for me > to post the contents of this diary once I have it transcribed? Also, would > it be possible for me to post it in, for example, four parts, so that the > entire rest of the list does not pass away waiting for me to finish the > transcription? > Thanks > Lynne > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > List admin can be reached at [email protected] >

This monring, while browsing at my favorite flea market (in northern NJ) I found -- and bought -- an 1876 diary of a PA school teacher. The seller labeled it from Lancaster County, but when I returned home and read bits of it I found that it was from Jackson Twp. in Dauphin County (-- coincidentally, the ancestral home of my Witmer ancestors. I found the teacher/author, Cornelius B. WILBERT in the 1880 census for that area and his occupation is listed as "Teacher Public School." Some of the names that I saw mentioned were: - ENDERS (many) - BOWMAN (briefly) - LOOSE (the preacher) - KILLINGER (another teacher) - EISENHOWER (very brief mention) - HELT - MILLER - KNOUFF (?) - BALTZELL (preacher) and more, I am sure. The entries are not long and although I may be dead before I finish, I am happy to start transcribing this and sharing it somewhere. The chores of the teacher are not described in great detail at all and more attention is given to his extraneous activities -- and only brief mention of those, too. One of the amusing parts is that he and his friends apparently meet regularly to debate issues. They eventaully come to a conclusion about the issues and declare a resolution about them. The end of the diary has the following resolutions: 1. Resolved: That Washington deserves more honor for liberating his country than Columbus for discovering it. 2. Resolved: That poverty develops character better than riches. 3. Resolved: That foreign emigration should be encouraged. 4. Resolved: That war produces more misery than intemperance. 5. Resolved: That Major Andre should not have been executed. 6. Resolved: That there is more pleasure in the pursuit of an object than in the possession of it. 7. Resolved: That education is a better safe-guard against crime than punishment. 8. Resolved: That Major Arnold deserves all the censure that has been given him. 9. Resolved: That the U.S. requires more skilled labor than she is able to furnish. 10. Resolved: That the works of art are more pleasing than the works of nature. 11. Resolved: That a lawyer is justifiable in defending a person whom he knows to be guilty. 12. Resolved: That parents are more responsible for the training of their children than teachers. 13: Resolved: That public opinion not be regarded as a standard of right. 14. Resolved: That the pillary and whipping post should be established in Penn. 15. Resolved: That the time put to the study of history in this school be better utilized by taking something else in substitution. 16. Resolved: That it was expedient to extent a general amnesty to the school. 17. Resolved: That wisdom is more desirable than military power. 18: Resolved: That cooperation will provide the virtue and happiness of mankind to a higher degree than competition. 19. Resolved: That genius is gradually declining. 20. Is woman better adapted to teach the young than men? 21. Should the negro be enfranchised. 22. That Daniel Webster was a better statesman than Henry Clay. Can the Dauphin County Rootsweb list members suggest a proper place for me to post the contents of this diary once I have it transcribed? Also, would it be possible for me to post it in, for example, four parts, so that the entire rest of the list does not pass away waiting for me to finish the transcription? Thanks Lynne

I have Fanny May Doyle, father John, mother Ann Snow, Fanny was born 1805, father 1776, she married Joseph Bloxham from Ararat, Susquehanna, PA in 1833, and have their children. I don't have any further information on the family except Ann's parents. Myrna ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Re: PADAUPHI-D Digest V04 #22 > I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS INFRO. ON THE DOYLES OF DAUPHIN CO. OFF 1860, > 70, 80, THE FATHER WAS FRANCIS ,MOTHER WAS ANN,AND KIDS ARE MARGARET, THOMAS, > JULIA,JOHN, CATHERINE,MARTIN,ANNIE AND PATRICK. > > JOE > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > KISS- Keep It Short & Simple >

Owen We have 28 E-mails on this aol is blocking Roots Website with messages, "Hovie" got 30 E-mails telling him of this problem,which does not affect him at all. fab > Thank you to all who responded to my plight of not receiving mail from the > various list due to AOL blocking Rootsweb mail. I have now set up a mail box > with Yahoo.com and am receiving my list mail there. > Once again thanks to all that sent me the list mail and for the other > suggestions on how to get around AOL. > > Cindy Walker > Portage, IN. USA > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > DAUPHIN COUNTY PA GEN-WEB site > http://www.maley.net/dauphin/ >

Mryna, You can find that book in most research libraries. I have seen it several times. Good luck. Kay Researching Brandt, Sheumaker, Anderson, Kagy, Mohler families

Sharon, The roads the stage coaches used are most of what we use today, the path of least resistance.I have a few early maps, and looked at the ones on the Map Collections site http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/gmdhome.html . Most of the roads are marked as state or turnpike roads. I find allot of information in old newspapers since those running the lines would advertise arrivals and departures. Here is an example: The subscribers beg leave to inform the public, that on the 3rd day of May next, their stage will commence running from Harrisburg by way of Clarks Ferry, Millerstown, Thompsontown, Mifflintown, Lewistown, Waynesburg and Huntingdon, to Alexandria, once a week. Leave the house of Mr. Berryhill, Harrisburg, every Tuesday, at 1 o'clock P.M., and arrive at Alexandria on the Friday following...... Dated April 14, 1808. I don't know if you are familiar with the area, but the route described above is basically where Rt. 322 leaves Harrisburg area and follows the Susquehanna and then heads westward. It's probably almost a morning commute for some folks who work in Harrisburg, now that is takes less than four days to travel. Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Frank" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 > Does anyone know if a map showing stage coach roads still exsists for > Dauphin & Schuylkill areas??? > Sharon

Sue, They are all where you said they were. Tombstone inscriptions for Shoops Burial Ground: John Garman - b. 5/24/1760, d. 9/1/1822 Barbara Garman - b. 11/10/1758, d. 3/2/1835 George Garman - b. 3/17/1783, d. 9/22/1841 Rebecca Garman - b. 1/1/1787, d. 4/29/1854 Bruce Fosnocht ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Egle's Notes and Queries of Pennsylvania, 1700s-1800s > Bruce - if it's not too much trouble, do you have any entries for the family > of John Garman/German(1760-1822), married to Barbary/Barbara(1759-1835)? or > the family of their son George (1783-1841) and Rebecca Bitzer (1787-1854) > Garman/German? > > All are buried in Shoops Church Cemetery. > > Thank you, > > Sue > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Post only genealogy related topics > >

Does anyone know if a map showing stage coach roads still exsists for Dauphin & Schuylkill areas??? Sharon > Marcia, > > Strangely, as complete as Eggert's book is, it does not give dates for > Calder's operation. However I consulted the online biographies at Bob > Maley's site and pieced together some approximate dates. The biography > notes that Calder came to Harrisburg when the state capital was moved here, > which was 1812. We know he was already in the stagecoach business at that > point, and other biographies note that he promptly became the dominant > stagecoach operator when he arrived in Harrisburg. So that pretty much > fixes his start in the operation in Harrisburg circa 1812. Eggert's book > does mention that Calder sold the business to his son, William Jr., as an > enticement to keep him in the family business. Calder Sr. then retired. > (Eggert, "Harrisburg Industrializes," page 46) But Eggert does not give a > date for this transfer of the business. > > The Dauphin County Biographies Transcription Project, under the biography of > William Calder (Jr.) notes that he assumed management of his father's > business in 1851. His father died ten years later, in 1861. So we can set > the approximate dates of William Calder, Srs' stagecoach/livery business in > Harrisburg as 1812 to 1851. > > Of course William Calder (Jr.) vastly expanded an already aggressive > business, and went into railroad construction and eventually established the > Harrisburg Car Works. He expanded his herds of horses and mules across the > state, and when Simon Cameron, as Linclon's Secretary of War, needed > thousands of horses and mules for the war effort in 1861, he turned to his > friend William Calder Jr. to supply the necessary horse flesh for the Union > army. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Houston [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 > > > George, > Does the book you mention say what years William Calder was doing > business? > > Marcia Fronk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George F. Nagle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:44 PM > Subject: RE: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 > > > > Cars may refer to the mail shipments, that William Calder had contracted. > Or > > perhaps it's the other way around and the "stage" is mail and the cars are > > larger passenger coaches. You are right that no rail lines existed in > > Harrisburg. The first "railroad" to reach Harrisburg was a horse-drawn > > train that made its debut in August 1836. A month later a steam > locomotive > > made its appearance. > > > > On the other hand, William Calder had built up his business in Harrisburg > to > > the point that fifteen coaches were leaving the town daily. All the above > > info is from Gerald Eggert's excellent book "Harrisburg Industrializes" > > (1993, University Park, The Pennsylvania State University Press), pages > 21, > > 29-31. > > > > The other possibility is that the 1829 date is wrong, as happens sometimes > > in those older county histories. > > > > Is there a transportation historian who could shed more light? > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Post only genealogy related topics > > > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail [email protected] or [email protected] with unsubscribe in message. >

Marcia, Strangely, as complete as Eggert's book is, it does not give dates for Calder's operation. However I consulted the online biographies at Bob Maley's site and pieced together some approximate dates. The biography notes that Calder came to Harrisburg when the state capital was moved here, which was 1812. We know he was already in the stagecoach business at that point, and other biographies note that he promptly became the dominant stagecoach operator when he arrived in Harrisburg. So that pretty much fixes his start in the operation in Harrisburg circa 1812. Eggert's book does mention that Calder sold the business to his son, William Jr., as an enticement to keep him in the family business. Calder Sr. then retired. (Eggert, "Harrisburg Industrializes," page 46) But Eggert does not give a date for this transfer of the business. The Dauphin County Biographies Transcription Project, under the biography of William Calder (Jr.) notes that he assumed management of his father's business in 1851. His father died ten years later, in 1861. So we can set the approximate dates of William Calder, Srs' stagecoach/livery business in Harrisburg as 1812 to 1851. Of course William Calder (Jr.) vastly expanded an already aggressive business, and went into railroad construction and eventually established the Harrisburg Car Works. He expanded his herds of horses and mules across the state, and when Simon Cameron, as Linclon's Secretary of War, needed thousands of horses and mules for the war effort in 1861, he turned to his friend William Calder Jr. to supply the necessary horse flesh for the Union army. -----Original Message----- From: Houston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 George, Does the book you mention say what years William Calder was doing business? Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: "George F. Nagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: RE: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 > Cars may refer to the mail shipments, that William Calder had contracted. Or > perhaps it's the other way around and the "stage" is mail and the cars are > larger passenger coaches. You are right that no rail lines existed in > Harrisburg. The first "railroad" to reach Harrisburg was a horse-drawn > train that made its debut in August 1836. A month later a steam locomotive > made its appearance. > > On the other hand, William Calder had built up his business in Harrisburg to > the point that fifteen coaches were leaving the town daily. All the above > info is from Gerald Eggert's excellent book "Harrisburg Industrializes" > (1993, University Park, The Pennsylvania State University Press), pages 21, > 29-31. > > The other possibility is that the 1829 date is wrong, as happens sometimes > in those older county histories. > > Is there a transportation historian who could shed more light? ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== Post only genealogy related topics

Myrna, Here's the entry: Beinhauer, Peter, of Derry, died October, 1818, leaving wife, Christiana and, John Peter Sarah Molly Susanna Elizabeth Barbara Catharine, d. prior to 1818, m. Henry Meck, and left Henry, George, Philip, Salome, Caty, and Elizabeth Christiana, d. prior to 1818, m. Martin Hocker, and left John, George, Catharine, and Christian Doesn't sound like your Catharine, if she was born in 1807. It's likely that she would be the child of either John or Peter. A separate entry says: Beinhauer, Peter - b. 2/22/1744, d. 12/4/1818 Beinhauer, Christiana - b. 7/30/1752, d. 3/26/1826 Hope this helps. Bruce Fosnocht ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Myrna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Egle's Notes and Queries of Pennsylvania, 1700s-1800s > I was wondering if anyone had the above publication. I would like to ask > for a lookup for Catharine Beinhauer, born 1807 in Dauphin Co. PA I believe. > She married John D. Singer in about 1827, they later removed to Ashland, OH. > > She was my Gr.Gr.Grandmother and I just learned her maiden name. > > Thank You, > > Myrna Singer Casey > [email protected] > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > DAUPHIN COUNTY PA GEN-WEB site > http://www.maley.net/dauphin/ > >

George, Does the book you mention say what years William Calder was doing business? Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: "George F. Nagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: RE: [PADAUPHI] Cars, Canal Boats and Stages in 1829 > Cars may refer to the mail shipments, that William Calder had contracted. Or > perhaps it's the other way around and the "stage" is mail and the cars are > larger passenger coaches. You are right that no rail lines existed in > Harrisburg. The first "railroad" to reach Harrisburg was a horse-drawn > train that made its debut in August 1836. A month later a steam locomotive > made its appearance. > > On the other hand, William Calder had built up his business in Harrisburg to > the point that fifteen coaches were leaving the town daily. All the above > info is from Gerald Eggert's excellent book "Harrisburg Industrializes" > (1993, University Park, The Pennsylvania State University Press), pages 21, > 29-31. > > The other possibility is that the 1829 date is wrong, as happens sometimes > in those older county histories. > > Is there a transportation historian who could shed more light?

Anyone researching the Peter Newbaker family that was in Halifax Twp. in the 1830-1840 time frame? My Fronk family seems to have some ties to the family, Frederick Fronk was a tenant of a P. Newbaker in 1843-44 and was listed as a carpenter. What I would like to know is what occupation Peter had and what church his family was a member of. Also, if any Newbakers married any Fronk/Franks. Marcia Fronk