About 1958 the old Shoops Church (a union Lutheran church) and its graveyard were eliminated to make room for the cloverleaf off I83 at Colonial Park - near the Colonial Park Mall for those familiar with Harrisburg. At that time, "they" opened the graves and extracted what might be human remains (very little of substance as you might suspect). The remains were placed into special plastic bags and placed into ten or eleven tombs (probably concrete vaults) and placed underneath a memorial stone across Route 22 in the public Shoops cemetery. There is a list of who was buried there which has been published in the Egle volumes and probably elsewhere (my 3d great grandfather was buried there but we didn't know that in time to shift him). I believe but cannot verify that the stones were buried in the vicinity of the graveyard. At the time of the removal the reformed church had already relocated to a new facility and the evangelical church that had shared Shoops were planning to relocate (that is now St Marks, not too far from the old location). There are some church records of baptisms and church attendance but little else available. There are some pine trees still standing to the right of the ramp leading off I83 which I believe framed the church and there are in fact a handful of stones still standing, I guess because they were behind the church. There is some literature available from St Marks (at least a photo copy) that shows the old church. One of the things I want to do is try to find photos of the old cemetery. Don't know if I will be successful or not. I would be happy to check the list and/or send copies of that and the early church photos is some are interested - by snail mail as they are all on paper. Happy hunting! Joan Bretz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles E. Fies, Retired" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Remains of the Mumma Family Re-interred at Shope's Meeting House > Richard A B wrote : > > Dear Doug and Charles: > > > > I checked back in my extensive newspaper archives on Dauphin County, and > > found an article in 1897 which indicates that the remains of quite a number > > of the Mumma family were removed from the old cemetery on the Mumma farm, > > near Highspire, to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. The article gives the > > names and tombstone dates for all those reinterred. It indicates all the > > Mummas reinterred were from John Mumma, who died Aug. 13, 1857 aged 83 > > years. At the end of the article it indicates "In this cemetery repose the > > remains of the first Mummas who settled in Pennsylvania," which I take is a > > reference to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. Maybe someone else can comment > > on the location of this cemetery today, as I don't even reside in > > Pennsylvania. :( > > By viewing my Mumma Reinterments at: > > <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/MummaCem.html> > > it may clear up a wee bit. If your referenced newspaper article > 1897 includes those reburied into the SHOPE's Cemetery, this should > answer your Mennonite query. Also note the two different cemeteries > in Dauphin County: Shoops and Shopes :) > -- > Regards, > > CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> > FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> > BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> > DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> > ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> > Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> > FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> > HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> > SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> > SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> > SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> > WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> > ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html> > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family >

I found some references in early Dauphin County newspapers (107 and 108 years old) that one of the founders and the first minister of the religious sect known as the Brethren in Christ or River Brethren originated from Dauphin County. Apparently his descendant Daniel Engle continued in this faith, and hosted one of the largest meetings of that denomination, which is well described in the second reference below. I'm nor related to the Engles, but thought this might interest some to learn a little of the history of the first minister and of an "old time" gathering : F 13 1897 Middletown Press: Death of Henry M. Engle, residing in E. Donegal Township [Lancaster County], near Marietta in the 78th year of his age. He was married three times and was the father of 21 children and grandchildren. The great grandfather of Mr. E was a Swiss immigrant, Uriah Engle, whose son, Jacob, became one of the founders and the first minister of the religious sect known as the Brethren in Christ or River Brethren. Deceased was a grandson of Jacob Engle. May 30, 1896 Middletown Journal: Annual Love Feast A Large Gathering of the Brethren in Christ At the Farm of Daniel Engle Many Prominent Ministers and Members of the Church Present In Lower Swatara Township, Dauphin County, on the banks of the Swatara Creek, just opposite the Stoverdale campmeeting grounds, is located the farm of Mr. Daniel Engle. It was here that the annual love feast of the Brethren in Christ of the Dauphin-Lebanon District was held this year. An ideal place it is for such a great gathering as met there Thursday, with its broad, deep fruited orchards, huge barns, large and commodious farm house, spacious porches, and pleasant yards, all surrounded by fields of waving wheat, tender plants of corn and oats and fine growing grass, entirely away from the tumults of town or city. On Wednesday evening the people began to gather, and all day Thursday teams were arriving hourly, and each incoming train on the M. & H. R.R. brought many others from a great distance. The services began Thursday morning about 9:00, with Rev. Jacob Kreider, of near Annville, the bishop of the district, presiding. The meeting was held in the barn. Two large floors and the side mows were provided with seats, all of which were filled at times. All day services were held. In the evening the sacrament of the Lord's Supper was administered. Around the two long communion tables were seated about 200 members of the church. The service was a most impressive one and even the spectators appeared to be filled with a deep seated reverence and to realize the solemnity of the occasion, and make it, in every sense of the word, an ideal old fashioned religious love feast. At an early hour Friday morning the brethren began the holding of services and continue until noon. This was said to be one of the most successful and largest attended love feasts ever held in this section. People drove for many miles and the long orchard was filled with teams, and had the weather been more favorable hundreds more would have driven there. Among the ministers present were Rev. Jacob Kredier, Annville; Rev. Heisey, Canada; Rev. John Wolgamuth, Lebanon County, Rev. Samuel Brehm, Dauphin County; Rev. Daniel Wolgamuth, Lancaster County; Rev. Tyson, Montgomery County; Rev. Hostetter, Harrisburg; Rev. Jacob Brubaker, Lancaster County. These meetings are held over the district among the members who have the facilities to entertain the people. At this gathering over 400 people were dined, and over 100 horses fed. It has been 19 years since a love feast was held at Mr. Engle's farm." [The previous meeting at his farm would therefore have been in 1877.] ---Richard

Richard A B wrote : > Dear Doug and Charles: > > I checked back in my extensive newspaper archives on Dauphin County, and > found an article in 1897 which indicates that the remains of quite a number > of the Mumma family were removed from the old cemetery on the Mumma farm, > near Highspire, to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. The article gives the > names and tombstone dates for all those reinterred. It indicates all the > Mummas reinterred were from John Mumma, who died Aug. 13, 1857 aged 83 > years. At the end of the article it indicates "In this cemetery repose the > remains of the first Mummas who settled in Pennsylvania," which I take is a > reference to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. Maybe someone else can comment > on the location of this cemetery today, as I don't even reside in > Pennsylvania. :( By viewing my Mumma Reinterments at: <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/MummaCem.html> it may clear up a wee bit. If your referenced newspaper article 1897 includes those reburied into the SHOPE's Cemetery, this should answer your Mennonite query. Also note the two different cemeteries in Dauphin County: Shoops and Shopes :) -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

Doug Mumma wrote :) > Hello Charles, > > Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find the burial records and the > location for the "Middletown Reformed Church" in Dauphin County. I have > reference in Richard Davis' book, Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" > that a Barbara [Mumma] Rife (15 Jun 1778-25 Dec 1802) was buried in that > cemetery. She was the wife of Abraham Rife, b. abt. 1774. I find nothing > on your site or elsewhere about this church when I do a Google search. > > Are you aware of it and has it possibly changed names? > > Thank you......... > > Doug Mumma :) > Several kind individuals have furnished additional information to the PADAUPHIN lists, but not knowing if you are signed up, I'm forwarding their comments to you. Thanks to your question re: Reformed of Middletown, I have clarified my web page on the Forgotten Cemeteries. Hopefully this will make it perfectly clear. Do you have any more data about who else was buried there that I don't have? <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> CEFies :) >From one of Oscar Stroh's books, the following is part of a listing made in 1895: REIF, Barbara, wife of Abraham, born June 15, 1778, died December 25, 1802. There is no listing for Abraham REIF or for anyone with the surname MUMMA. Jim Ensinger Anyone with questions regarding the Mumma family should contact Doug Mumma [email protected] Roger Cramer -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

Dear Doug and Charles: I checked back in my extensive newspaper archives on Dauphin County, and found an article in 1897 which indicates that the remains of quite a number of the Mumma family were removed from the old cemetery on the Mumma farm, near Highspire, to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. The article gives the names and tombstone dates for all those reinterred. It indicates all the Mummas reinterred were from John Mumma, who died Aug. 13, 1857 aged 83 years. At the end of the article it indicates "In this cemetery repose the remains of the first Mummas who settled in Pennsylvania," which I take is a reference to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. Maybe someone else can comment on the location of this cemetery today, as I don't even reside in Pennsylvania. Anyone wanting a copy of this send an SASE to me within a month from this date to: Richard A. Bisbee 135 Covell Rd. N.W. Grand Rapids, MI 49504-5932 After a month I'm refiling this in my Archives, so please let me know within a month if you want a copy. Do any of you have anything further on the descendants of Abraham and Barbara (Mumma) Rife? Some of my family married into the Rife family, but I haven't found a very complete listing of Rifes of Dauphin Co., despite the fact they seem to have been at once very well regarded people in the county. Weren't the Mummas originally Mennonite? I have found them quite often in old legal papers of my own family's records back in Dauphin and Lebanon Counties. ---Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles E. Fies, Retired" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Middletown Reformed Church > Doug Mumma wrote :) > > > Hello Charles, > > > > Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find the burial records and the > > location for the "Middletown Reformed Church" in Dauphin County. I have > > reference in Richard Davis' book, Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" > > that a Barbara [Mumma] Rife (15 Jun 1778-25 Dec 1802) was buried in that > > cemetery. She was the wife of Abraham Rife, b. abt. 1774. I find nothing > > on your site or elsewhere about this church when I do a Google search. > > > > Are you aware of it and has it possibly changed names? > > > > Thank you......... > > > > Doug Mumma :) > > Please review my Forgotten Churches web page at :) > > <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> > > The German Reformed Church of Middletown was proposed in 1743 by > the Reformed Synods of Holland and the Presbyterian Synod of > Philadelphia, to become a merger of the Presbyterians, Dutch > Reformed and German Reformed Churches in America. > > On May 22nd, 1770, George Frey and his wife Catherine, sold Lot > Number 143 as a site for the German Calvinist or Presbyterian church > and burying ground. Lot 143 sits on the corner of Pine and High > streets, in Middletown. "In this graveyard the dead of the > denomination were buried for a number of years." My "Forgotten.html" > page contains all that I know about this 'church burying ground', > citing my sources of information thereon. I haven't dug around > looking for church records, and don't know if any exist. But you > can keep digging, and good luck :) > -- > Regards, > > CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> > BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> > DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> > ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> > Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> > FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> > HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> > SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> > SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> > SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> > WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> > ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html> > > ______________________________

Shoops Church, Dauphin Co., can easily be found on a USGNIS map. Go to http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Fill in: Feature Name- Shoops State - Pennsylvania Feature type - scroll to 'Church' County - Dauphin Send query. Next page click on "Show feature location" Next page, wait for server to bring up maps (it may take a little time). Scroll down and there is Shoops Church at the red dot, south of Skyline View, southeast of Linglestown, and northwest of Hershey. You can use the USGNIS maps to find almost everything, churches, cemeteries, ridges, valleys, arroyos, basins, flats, bridges, parks, etc., etc. It's a long list from which to choose what you are hunting. Nelson R. Sulouff In Arizona ////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Remains of the Mumma Family Re-interred at Shope's Meeting House > Dear Doug and Charles: > > I checked back in my extensive newspaper archives on Dauphin County, and > found an article in 1897 which indicates that the remains of quite a number > of the Mumma family were removed from the old cemetery on the Mumma farm, > near Highspire, to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. The article gives the > names and tombstone dates for all those reinterred. It indicates all the > Mummas reinterred were from John Mumma, who died Aug. 13, 1857 aged 83 > years. At the end of the article it indicates "In this cemetery repose the > remains of the first Mummas who settled in Pennsylvania," which I take is a > reference to the cemetery at Shoop's Church. Maybe someone else can comment > on the location of this cemetery today, as I don't even reside in > Pennsylvania. > > Anyone wanting a copy of this send an SASE to me within a month from this > date to: > > Richard A. Bisbee > 135 Covell Rd. N.W. > Grand Rapids, MI 49504-5932

Hi Jim, I have a little info on Rife and Mumma. My family was from Middletown. MUMMA, JOHN, Senr. July 22, 1821. January 30, 1823. Wife Margaret. Grandchildren Joseph and Mary Rife. John Mumma, Esq. Grandchildren Samuel, Frederick and Mary Mumma, a minor. Ex.: Loving friend John Mumma, Esq. Wit: John Noble, Mary Noble. I. 273-274. RIFE, Jacob, 20 Private Joseph Rife, 52 Mary Rife, 48 John Rife, 13 Name, Age (1860 Census) 1 - Jacob Eckert of Intercourse Village, Lancaster Co Pa, father of Gabriel C, Elizabeth, Martha, Peter B, Jacob M, Catherine, Mary (wife of Jacob Rife), signed 9/30/1848, died sometime before 7/30/1849. Hope this gives some clues. Dru

In a message dated 6/11/2004 2:35:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: >>>Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find the burial records and the location for the "Middletown Reformed Church" in Dauphin County. I have reference in Richard Davis' book, Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" that a Barbara [Mumma] Rife (15 Jun 1778-25 Dec 1802) was buried in that cemetery. She was the wife of Abraham Rife, b. abt. 1774.<<< Anyone with questions regarding the Mumma family should contact Doug Mumma [email protected] Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

In a previous message, Doug Mumma wrote: >>>Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find the burial records and the location for the "Middletown Reformed Church" in Dauphin County. I have reference in Richard Davis' book, Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" that a Barbara [Mumma] Rife (15 Jun 1778-25 Dec 1802) was buried in that cemetery. She was the wife of Abraham Rife, b. abt. 1774.<<< From one of Oscar Stroh's books, the following is part of a listing made in 1895: REIF, Barbara, wife of Abraham, born June 15, 1778, died December 25, 1802. There is no listing for Abraham REIF or for anyone with the surname MUMMA. Jim Ensinger

Doug Mumma wrote :) > Hello Charles, > > Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to find the burial records and the > location for the "Middletown Reformed Church" in Dauphin County. I have > reference in Richard Davis' book, Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" > that a Barbara [Mumma] Rife (15 Jun 1778-25 Dec 1802) was buried in that > cemetery. She was the wife of Abraham Rife, b. abt. 1774. I find nothing > on your site or elsewhere about this church when I do a Google search. > > Are you aware of it and has it possibly changed names? > > Thank you......... > > Doug Mumma :) Please review my Forgotten Churches web page at :) <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> The German Reformed Church of Middletown was proposed in 1743 by the Reformed Synods of Holland and the Presbyterian Synod of Philadelphia, to become a merger of the Presbyterians, Dutch Reformed and German Reformed Churches in America. On May 22nd, 1770, George Frey and his wife Catherine, sold Lot Number 143 as a site for the German Calvinist or Presbyterian church and burying ground. Lot 143 sits on the corner of Pine and High streets, in Middletown. "In this graveyard the dead of the denomination were buried for a number of years." My "Forgotten.html" page contains all that I know about this 'church burying ground', citing my sources of information thereon. I haven't dug around looking for church records, and don't know if any exist. But you can keep digging, and good luck :) -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

I would like to take one moment out of everyone's busy lives to wish all of the Reagan family my deepest sympathy and to thank President Ronald Reagan for a job well done from a grateful Nation and World. Please no replies are necessary and absolutely please not rederick. Again Thank you Ronnie!!! Daniel J Geyer

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I'm at a brick wall.   I have been searching for the parents and siblings of my great grandfather George Snyder born June 30, 1823, Married Elizabeth Hoover Aug. 15, 1843 in Harrisburg, PA.   His 1850 household is listed in So. Hanover Twp, Dauphin Co., PA. Elizabeth Hoover dau of Abram and Rebecca Hoover of Lower Paxton Twp., Dauphin Co., PA. I think his father was a George or a John.   The 1880 Census says that both his parents were born in Germany.   At present I am interested in the 1830 & 1840 household of Mary Snider/Snyder of Middletown, Dauphin Co., PA.   She has two sons listed in 1840 of the right age range to fit my George.   However as yet I have not been able to find any info on her.   I've essentially eliminated a George and a John Snyder both of Derry Twp., Dauphin Co. as possible fathers of my George.   So I remain at a brick wall. Will appreciate any suggestions that may aid my research. Bob in MI

Hi All We are needing some help in locating some grave site Pictures if grave stones of the men that died at Sample Run in 1926, also the survivors of same. We have 24 of them todate, if any relatives are out there that can help, please do. Look at www.clymerpa.com to see the Sample Run Project and Clymers Borough's new website Thank You In Advance Jerry Hetrick [email protected] 1-972-366-8102

Long's Church or St. Peter's Lutheran Church in Powell's Valley, Halifax Twp. Does anyone know of birth or marriage records existing for this church? Marcia Fronk Dru, your mailbox will not except email from me. To answer your question: Sorry, no, I don't have the deed you listed.

Family members and I also visited Lykens cemetaries Sunday and found the same conditions. We were unable to find ggrandparents graves at the Odd Fellows cemetary, even tho we had been there about eight years ago. We think the stones might have deteriorated beyond recogniton. Someday when time is not a factor, we'll return for a more thorough search. Irene and Ed. Thomas

Daniel E Weinhold wrote :) > Charles & Mary. > > Included with in this PABEREKS E-mail it is mentioned that of the KELLER > family who lived in southern York County, PA. > Daniel :) The only reference to a KELLER in my BABBs family tree is that shown below (Born mid-1800s). :( Perhaps someone else on the lists may be able to shed some light on your search of the other surnames listed. Good luck :) Charlie Fies .................................. 5 Martha Babb ..................................... +Thomas Keller > > One of the many surnames I am researching is the York Co. PA Keller > family, (and the HENDEL & WEINHOLD / WINEHOLT) and I would greatly > appreciate additional information in regards to the Keller line of that > area. > > A member of George Winehold's family (of the Windsor , Yk. Co., PA. area) > m'd a Keller. George was a bro. to Wendel Weinhold who settled in Cumru > Township, Bks. Co , PA after the Rev. War. > Both men came from the Muddy Creek Church area of Cocalico township, > Lanc. Co. before they were in the Rev. War. > > D. Ernest Weinhold > [email protected] -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

We visited the cemeteries at Lykens on Saturday and were amazed at the poor condition. Many stones in the Old Union Cemetery are broken and some lay on the ground. Some of the grass had not been mowed which is a shame on Memorial Day weekend. We've seen a lot of cemeteries that are kept in nice condition and wonder why these cemeteries are so poorly maintained. Roger and Sue Cramer Peoria, AZ Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

Hi Marcia, I realize you posted this message quite a while ago, but I was wondering if you might still have the info on the Halifax Public Sale of Newbecker's. I believe this may be the land or be next to the land that my grandparents bought. I believe the name sounds familiar from the census. Thanks for any help. Also, I believe you at one time were researching William Reed who operated and owned a mill in Halifax. I believe the land where the mill was is being sold at public auction on June 3rd (or it is next to the land). It is in Inglenook just north of the Clarks Ferry Bridge. There had been an oil refinery there which is no longer in operation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Houston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:06 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Penn'a. Telegraph, Harrisburg 1838 > Saturday, January 20, 1838 > A Batch of Rogues - During the present session of the Court of Common Pleas, > the following persons have been convicted and Sentenced: > > Henry Brown > William Johnson > James Loller > James Foley > Hiram Kelsey > John Nugent > John Powers > Martin O'Brian > > February 23, 1828 > Harrisburg Academy - J.M. Keagy....has taken into partnership... Mr. Isaac Allen, an ingenious teacher... > > Public Sale..A Valuable tract of Land...situate in Halifax township...Log dwelling House...Philip Newbecker, George Newbecker, Administrators of Philip Newbecker, dec. > > Marcia Fronk > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Who, Where, When. > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > A bad one says: ........ My family > >

Jean: Good to see the nice write-up about the formation of the Lower Swatara Historical Society and the desire to provide a complete history of Lower Swatara Township. I've been invited to the meeting Friday (even though I live in Londonderry Township) because I have already provided a lot of history of the former residents by way of grave-yard headstone transcriptions. One such stone is somewhat fascinating because it states something like ....here lies the Bones of Elizabeth, daughter of.... It's written in German, as that was the language of many of the early settlers of Lower Swatara Township. Some of the web pages I've prepared can be viewed at: <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/ShopeFarm.html>. If there is any way you can let Shelby Class know about these Lower Swatara Township web pages so she can view them before Friday Evening's meeting, it might prove beneficial to all. -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>