Todd, Boyd's Harrisburg City Directory of 1933 lists a number of NEFFs. Two of them are as follows: Bertha I. tel opr 2562 Lexington Henrietta (wid Jas) 2562 Lexington Hope this is some help. Donna Harrisburg

I'm hunting an obit for Bella (Cromer) Heffernan d. Oct 1988 in Middleton. What newspaper would likely carry it? Elaine

put Mandaville in Google. First item is history of S. Hanover Twnsp. Says Sand Beach originally Mandaville ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Thurman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:23 AM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Mandaville > Can someone tell me if the town of Manadaville still exists. It is > supposed to be located where the Manada Creek and Swatara Creek join. This > would be NE of Union Deposit along Swatara Creek. A 1875 map shows it as > Mandaville. Current topo or road maps do not list it. A current topo map > shows what looks like a series of dwellings at that location, but the only > label is Sand Beach. > > Is there a publication available that might tell me something about the town? > > Thanks for your help. > > George > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > List admin can be reached at [email protected] > >

Can someone tell me if the town of Manadaville still exists. It is supposed to be located where the Manada Creek and Swatara Creek join. This would be NE of Union Deposit along Swatara Creek. A 1875 map shows it as Mandaville. Current topo or road maps do not list it. A current topo map shows what looks like a series of dwellings at that location, but the only label is Sand Beach. Is there a publication available that might tell me something about the town? Thanks for your help. George

George, The PENNSYLVANIA LINE (1990), p. 259 shows Manadaville as a village of 50 inhabitants in South Hanover Twp., Dauphin Co. Nelson //////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Thurman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:23 AM Subject: [PADAUPHI] Mandaville > Can someone tell me if the town of Manadaville still exists. It is > supposed to be located where the Manada Creek and Swatara Creek join. This > would be NE of Union Deposit along Swatara Creek. A 1875 map shows it as > Mandaville. Current topo or road maps do not list it. A current topo map > shows what looks like a series of dwellings at that location, but the only > label is Sand Beach. > > Is there a publication available that might tell me something about the town? > > Thanks for your help. > > George

Hello Fellow Listers, I'm looking for information on Henrietta (Kelly) Neff, born approximately 1848. She had one daughter, Bertha, born around between 1885 and 1898 (the 1920 has her age at 34 and the 1930 census has her age at 32). Bertha apparently never married. I don't know the first name of Henrietta's husband, but I understand that he work for the railroad. The 1920 and 1930 census has them living in PA in Harrisburg's 4th Ward. I would very much appreciate any information on these folks, no matter how minute you may find it, such as the husband's first name, where they may be buried, etc.anything. Thanks in advance for your help! Todd A. Zeigler Seven Valleys, PA

Is anyone familiar with Luther Kelker's 1907 "History of Dauphin Co." who could do a look-up? Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/

My mother purchased an old ledger at an auction years ago. It belonged to John Weaver, and the entries begin Nov. 14, 1833. Many upper Dauphin County families' accounts are included. John was apparently a shoemaker early in life, and ran some sort of store later on. I will post the names of the account holders and the names of others mentioned in the accounts...most of those mentioned are children, but some are other adults that may have been hired help, or relatives, etc. They are usually noted with a first and last name whereas the children are noted only by first name. Persons are in the order seen in the ledger, and I use the spelling of the ledger as well. LENKER, PHILIP First entry January 13, 1834 "account out the other book" Anny Holtzman Leah - first mention 3/10/1834 Catty - first mention 3/10/1834 William - first mention 3/11/1834 Wife Henry Federhaff Henry - first mention 3/20/1835 Alexander Shuman Scholabarger Jonathan - first mention 12/2/1837 WEAVER, JACOB JR. first entry 1/23/1834 "account out the othe book" Jacob Woodling John - first mention 2/19/1834 Sarah - first mention 4/7/1834 Hanna - first mention 4/7/1834 Wife Elisabeth - first mention 6/21/1834 John - first mention 11/1/1834 Rachel Urich Daniel - first mention 11/10/1834 Elisabeth Meader Josia - first mention 7/30/1836 CREADEY, GEORGE M. first entry 2/20/1834, "account out the other book, page 73" Wife his Father - entry 5/10/1834 Samuel - first entry 8/29/1834 Lidia - first entry 9/25/1834 Rebaca - first entry 10/4/1834 WEAVER, SIMON first entry 11/29/1837, "account out the other book from page 95 & 96" last entry 2/2/1837, no names mentioned BUFFINGTON, GEORGE first entry 3/10/1834, "account out the other book" Amanda - first mention 3/10/1834 John - first mention 3/10/1834 Elias - first mention 3/10/1834 Sirus (also spelled Cirus)- first mention 4/12/1834 Wife Joseph Weaver Sally Bressler George - first mention 9/5/1834 Hannah Yoe Abraham Wetzler Cattyann - first mention 10/28/1835 Matty Bressler N. Bitterman Elisabeth - first mention 11/24/1838 Henry Wert

Thanks Marcia,,,, sorry it took me so long to reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark & Ruth DeWaelsche" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Penn'a. Telegraph, Harrisburg 1838 > Hi Marcia, > I realize you posted this message quite a while ago, but I was wondering if > you might still have the info on the Halifax Public Sale of Newbecker's. I > believe this may be the land or be next to the land that my grandparents > bought. I believe the name sounds familiar from the census. Thanks for any > help. > > Also, I believe you at one time were researching William Reed who operated > and owned a mill in Halifax. I believe the land where the mill was is being > sold at public auction on June 3rd (or it is next to the land). It is in > Inglenook just north of the Clarks Ferry Bridge. There had been an oil > refinery there which is no longer in operation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Houston" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:06 PM > Subject: [PADAUPHI] Penn'a. Telegraph, Harrisburg 1838 > > > > Saturday, January 20, 1838 > > A Batch of Rogues - During the present session of the Court of Common > Pleas, > > the following persons have been convicted and Sentenced: > > > > Henry Brown > > William Johnson > > James Loller > > James Foley > > Hiram Kelsey > > John Nugent > > John Powers > > Martin O'Brian > > > > February 23, 1828 > > Harrisburg Academy - J.M. Keagy....has taken into partnership... Mr. Isaac > Allen, an ingenious teacher... > > > > Public Sale..A Valuable tract of Land...situate in Halifax township...Log > dwelling House...Philip Newbecker, George Newbecker, Administrators of > Philip Newbecker, dec. > > > > Marcia Fronk > > > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > > Who, Where, When. > > A GOOD subject says:...... John SMITH, Arkansas, 1850-1876 > > A bad one says: ........ My family > > > > > > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > KISS- Keep It Short & Simple > >

I have now ordered my CD....it's easier to do research at home than at the library. However, I do frequent the Clayton Library. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Ed Waggoner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Egles Notes I have seen them at various libraries, they are not rare. They are maybe half dozen books. Someone also published an index. I see on Genealogical Publishing Co. website they have them for $29.99 which is worth the investment if you doing much PA research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Egles Notes > I'm also interested in Egles Notes. Are they in most libraries in major > cities?? > > > Researching Brandt, Sheumaker, Anderson, Kagy, Westenbarger, Mohler, Davey, > Harris, Flood, Reed, West, Wharton, families. > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Post only genealogy related topics > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail [email protected] or [email protected] with unsubscribe in message.

You know, Family Tree Maker has the entire set including annuals on one CD. I bought mine last year from them for $20. Much as I like books, the advantage of the CD is that it is entirely searchable by names. Unlike the books, looking for more general information is more difficult because you have to call up each table of contents separately. I finally printed them out separately so I could look up stuff. Tony Hoover

I'm sorry - it's Trout that I am researching - not Troutman. Kay Researching Brandt, Sheumaker, Anderson, Kagy, Westenbarger, Mohler, Davey, Harris, Flood, Reed, West, Wharton, families.

Terry, I recently was in Perry Co. Ohio where I found my 4th gr. grandfather's grave. Solomon Mohler. There were Moeller's in the same cemetery. I wrote down some of the names/dates but I don't know if they are related or not. Actually, I am just beginning to search the Mohler/Troutman family so I don't have a lot of info on them yet. Thanks for your help. Kay Researching Brandt, Sheumaker, Anderson, Kagy, Westenbarger, Mohler, Davey, Harris, Flood, Reed, West, Wharton, families.

In a message dated 6/24/2004 1:40:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Tonya, > I'm interested in the Troutman name which is part of my Mohler family. What > > do you have?? > Kay > Kay Which Troutman family are you searching for? The Mahantango Valley branch? Was your Mohler family originally Moeller? Terry

Hi All, Both the books & the CD of Egle's Notes & Queries are on eBay right now--they are frequently available there. The CD is considerably cheaper at about $8 right now, but the description for the set of books ($300 right now) gives this information: Egle's NOTES & QUERIES Set of 13 Pennsylvania Genealogy "Notes and Queries: Historical, Biographical and Genealogical Relating Chiefly to Interior Pennsylvania," edited by William Henry Egle, M.D., M.A., copyright 1970 (from the original published 1894-1900), thirteen volumes. This is an impressive, complete set, in pristine condition. According to the Publisher: "Egle s celebrated Notes and Queries is the most important multi-volume work on the genealogy, biography, and history of central Pennsylvania ever published. Included in its nearly 5,000 pages are a vast number of genealogies, family sketches, and biographies, as well as extensive lists of early settlers and soldiers of the various wars, including the French and Indian War, the Revolutionary War, and the War of 1812. In addition, the work encompasses an impressive array of genealogical source records--early wills, church records, marriage and death records, tax lists, and lists of early immigrants and frontiersmen." "Notes and Queries was originally published between 1879 and 1895 as a series of newspaper columns in the Harrisburg Daily Telegraph, then carried forward and published in five annual volumes between 1896 and 1900. The columns (and offprints of the columns which appeared in pamphlet form) were reprinted in seven volumes between the years 1894 and 1896; thus, with the five annual volumes for 1896-1900, the complete set of Notes and Queries totals twelve volumes." The thirteenth volume is an index to the Main Families, Persons, Places and Subjects. Published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., LoC# 70-114834, hard cover, 5.75" by 8.75" by about 0.5" to 1.5" thick, before packing weight 17 lbs. FYI, Rae In a message dated 6/24/04 12:49:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: From: Joan Bretz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Re: PADAUPHI-D Digest V04 #22 Hi. I am just now trying to clean out my in and out email boxes and found your message from February. Did you ever get a response as to what the Egle volumes contain. I don't want to be too redundant if you have already had a response. Let me know if you are still interested. By the way, you can get a CD of Egle for about $30. I happen to think that it is an essential resource for folks with central PA connections - this is the place that gave me the name of my 4th great grandmother. Regards, Joan Bretz

Hi Roger I should of known you would have it. Is this Koppenhaver descendant of Johan Hans Wolfgang Koppenhaver 1680? If so how? Thanks Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: [PADAUPHI] George Koppenhaver and Irene > Here are parents of George Koppenhaver. Let me know if you need more info: > > Descendants of Ira N. Koppenhaver > > 1 Ira N. KOPPENHAVER b: January 1875 d: April 10, 1937 Burial: Maple > Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA > . +Katie Elizabeth LEHMAN b: April 29, 1877 in Dauphin Co., PA d: May 8, > 1945 Burial: Maple Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Father: > Henry Lehman Mother: Sarah Anne Bechtel > .. 2 George Luther KOPPENHAVER b: November 30, 1900 in Millersburg, Dauphin > Co., PA d: May 20, 1976 in Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Burial: Maple > Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA > ...... +Irene Carrie TROUTMAN b: April 10, 1903 in Elizabethville, Dauphin > Co., PA m: January 27, 1927 in Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Father: > James Monroe Troutman Mother: Katie Mariah Beisel > > Roger Cramer > Peoria, Arizona > Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site > http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html > Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/ > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail [email protected] or [email protected] with unsubscribe in message. > > >

I have this Koppenhaver and Prudence (wife) in one of my lines - will gladly share Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Sulouff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Koppenhaver > Tonya, > > There was a George Elmer Copenhaver (4/15/1877-5/26/1901) who died in > Hershey, Dauphin Co. He is reportedly buried, together with his wife, > Prudence Mary Daniel, in Hershey. I regret I have traced only one of > George's children, a daughter Mabel Anna Koppenhaver (1892-1970), who > moved to Juniata Co. after her marriage 2/17/1914 to my third cousin, > twice removed, Charles William 'Ducky' Suloff (1891-1972). Mabel died in > Carlisle, Cumberland Co. and is buried with her husband in Mifflintown, > Juniata Co. What I regret even more is that I entered the data on George > Copenhaver into a computer program I was using 20 years ago and it did > not provide for annotating sources, so I'm not certain how I came by the > information on Mabel Anna's father. I do know that the information I > have on his descendants came from personal interviews I had years ago > with his descendants living in Juniata Co. > > Note the change in spelling of surname from father to daughter. This > might provide a helpful clue for your search. As a matter of fact, that > surname has quite a number of variant spellings in Pennsylvania. If you > haven't already done it, you might want to look for a doubled 'p' in > Coppenhaver, also Koppenheffer, or anything else phonetically viable. > > Happy hunting, > > Nelson R. Sulouff > > ////////////////////////////////// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tonya Lebo" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:03 AM > Subject: [PADAUPHI] Koppenhaver > > > > I am searching for information on Irene Koppenhaver She passed away on > June 9, 2004 at 101 years of age. She was the oldest member of St. > John's Church in Berrysburg. Her husband was George Koppenhaver, and I > am searching for his parents. > > The Koppenhavers buried at St. John's in Berrysburg are also our > family. So I would like to put them in my files. > > Also they may be related by the Troutman name. James and Kate > Beisel Troutman. > > Thanks for any help > > Tonya > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > DAUPHIN COUNTY PA GEN-WEB site > http://www.maley.net/dauphin/ > > >

Egle's complete "Notes and Queries," originally written between 1879 and 1900, were republished in 1970 in thirteen volumes. Lately the entire work is available on CD-Rom for a tenth of what the actual books cost. You can find the CD-ROM at FamilyTreeMaker.com and probably a few other genealogy sites on the web. However I bought a copy on eBay for less than ten dollars. In fact I just checked and there is one up for auction right now. "Notes and Queries" is the collected newspaper columns of Dr. William Henry Egle, who was the Pennsylvania state historian, among many other things. His work is heavily centered around south central Pennsylvania data, people, genealogy, history, etc, but does occasionally range afield into many other counties around the state. He pays a lot of attention to the Pennsylvania Germans, which is nice because many of the collected county histories of his time ignored them in favor of the English/Scots Irish. He also gives limited space to stories and notes about African Americans, which almost none of the other histories from this time period do. Egle's work, it should be noted, has errors. It was a "work in progress," in the form of a regular history column. If he wrote a column with errors, he would simply make corrections in a later column. Also, many of the stories were submitted by fellow historians, usually identified only by initials. The CD-ROM has a complete name index, which is handy, but I would like to see a comprehensive subject index, too. All in all, it is a very useful work, fun to read and browse, and full of thousands of stories that you just don't find in the typical county history. George F. Nagle Editor, Afrolumens Project http://www.afrolumens.org/ -----Original Message----- From: Ed Waggoner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Egles Notes I have seen them at various libraries, they are not rare. They are maybe half dozen books. Someone also published an index. I see on Genealogical Publishing Co. website they have them for $29.99 which is worth the investment if you doing much PA research. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PADAUPHI] Egles Notes > I'm also interested in Egles Notes. Are they in most libraries in major > cities?? > > > Researching Brandt, Sheumaker, Anderson, Kagy, Westenbarger, Mohler, Davey, > Harris, Flood, Reed, West, Wharton, families. > > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== > Post only genealogy related topics > > ==== PADAUPHI Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail [email protected] or [email protected] with unsubscribe in message.

[email protected] wrote :) > Hi Charles > I just returned from Londonderry area and found several Bierbower > burials with the help of your web site listings. Can add this. At > Geyer's in Londonderry is the family of Ephraim Bierbowner. You note 3 > illegible small stones in Ephraim's plott. I can say with confidence > that they are markers for Annie, Aurther G. and Willie H. Bierbower. > These are also marked with a larger obelisk monument that must have > been placed at a later date probably by the sister Alice B. Welty also > buried there. The three small markers have no writing on the faces of > the stones but have initials carved accross the arches. One clearly WHB, > the other AGB and the third is sheared off and only the last initial B > remains. I also visited at the Epler Family Farm cemetery and found the > marker for Jacob Bierbower husband to Elisabeth Epler. It is not noted > at your web page. The stone is very difficult to read but the Jacob > Bierbower is quite clear as is a birth year of 1791. I could not make > out month and day. He died in 1866 and this is also legible, though > barely. William H. Bierbower, son of Jacob and Elisabeth is found here > as noted on your web site but I found no trace of a David Bierbower. > Mary Alice :( Many thanks for the fill-ins on the two sites, Eplers and Geyers. I added your information to the two pages and credited you and today's date for the data. Thanks very much. It just may help someone else searching for those ancestors. :) -- Regards, CHARLES EARL FIES -- Fies Family Fotos <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/> FIES/FEES Family History Research Site <http://www.fies-fees.org> BABB - HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Babbs.html> DAUPHIN CO. CEMETERIES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/DauphinCo.html> ERNST-GRUBER <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Ernsts.html> Forgotten Cemeteries <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Forgotten.html> FRASCELLA -- <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Frascella.html> HARTMAN <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Hartman.html> SCHLEGEL-PETERS <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/EarlPete.html> SNYDER-JONES <http://home.att.net/~chasfies/ermafies.html> SWARTZ / SCHWARTZ <http://home.att.net/~charliefies/Swartz.html> WIELAND-YOUNG-STONER<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Wealands.html> ZIMMERMAN - Berks Co PA<http://home.att.net/~chasfies/Zimmerman.html>

Here are parents of George Koppenhaver. Let me know if you need more info: Descendants of Ira N. Koppenhaver 1 Ira N. KOPPENHAVER b: January 1875 d: April 10, 1937 Burial: Maple Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA . +Katie Elizabeth LEHMAN b: April 29, 1877 in Dauphin Co., PA d: May 8, 1945 Burial: Maple Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Father: Henry Lehman Mother: Sarah Anne Bechtel .. 2 George Luther KOPPENHAVER b: November 30, 1900 in Millersburg, Dauphin Co., PA d: May 20, 1976 in Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Burial: Maple Grove Cemetery, Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA ...... +Irene Carrie TROUTMAN b: April 10, 1903 in Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA m: January 27, 1927 in Elizabethville, Dauphin Co., PA Father: James Monroe Troutman Mother: Katie Mariah Beisel Roger Cramer Peoria, Arizona Roger & Sue Cramer's Genealogy Site http://members.aol.com/rogercubs/index.html Ogle Co., IL Genealogy Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/