This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2873.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello! I don't know an Alfred. My Grandfathr was Albert W Kelly Jr. His Brother was Edward L.(Buck) and Harrison(Harry) I don't remember the mention of a sister. I will check with my family in Carlisle and get back to you. My Grandfather was a painter and paper hanger and could also set glass.