Thank you Barbara and Richard - I have a long line of Egolf's who were coopers and saddlers and harness-makers, teamsters and they married craftsmen. My Henry Egolf lived near Carlisle and was a wagoneer/teamster. They all had enough farm land to support a horse or two and the very necessary cow. The women and youngens grew vegetables, but the Egolf's were not farmers. I have seen barrels made in Kentucky and it is a wonderful sight to see. The master-barrel-maker picks up an armful of staves - he does it so quickly that you would think he was taking them at random. But then when he stands them up in the head truss ring they are found to be perfect in size and number - and fill out the ring making a perfect barrel. Amazing skill - an art - a craft. After the barrel was almost completed - they used the crozer to trim the staves and cut the croze (groves) for the head pieces. Very good of you to take the time - I apprecated the link to the tool page - I copied the photo of what I will call a crozer and the bung hole maker. Thanks again best regards Hal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <brivas1@cox.net> To: <PALANCAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [PALANCAS] crozer croze > This site discusses the cooper's trade. The word used here is "crouse" - a "crouse knife" > > "Crouse Knife: V shaped blade used to cut a notch inside the barrel staves to > allow secure fitting of the barrel head. " > > Another site that sells old cooper's tools calls it a croze. > > This page has pictures of old cooper's tools. > > http://www.oldtools.com/ > http://www.oldtools.com/Coopers%20Tools.html > > (I have NO connection nor interest in the pages that are selling items.) > > http://phrontistery.50megs.com/index.html > Lists of strange, outdated, unique words > > http://phrontistery.50megs.com/c.html > croze groove in the staves of a cask > > > > > Hal Laube wrote: > > > In 1700 and today a cooper would use a crozer to cut and trim the ends of the barrel and to cut a croze for the head pieces. Could someone please tell me what is the origin of crozer and croze. Is it German? If not what is the name of the tool in German - or would a German call it crozer and croze? Thanks Hal > > > > ==== PALANCAS Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe first check and see if you are getting list or digest mode then e-mail PALANCAS-L-request@rootsweb.com or PALANCAS-D-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in message. > > ______________________________