Right you are Joe, I sure it was done frequently, and it was done for all the age break points, not just the 16 year mark. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe patterson" <jpatter@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] What age to take the Oath?.....