This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mitten, Foltz, DeWalt, Hemminger, Keiser, Kindle, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2126.2201.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Rebecca and Susan, I just saw your notes. They are very helpful. I just wrote to Richard Currie at racurrie@btr.quick.com, if there is a newer address please let me know. I am interested to find out about the descendants of John Mitton of Pemberton, butcher, who was sentenced in January 1774 to be trasported to the colonies. While the story of how he got here is different, it is exactly the right time period for the ancestor of Isaac Mitten who was described in my first note. Below is what I have on the family. It's long so I stopped with my great grandmother's birth. I have a lot more on her. Please let me know what you can add. Descendants of Isaac Mitten Generation No. 1 1. ISAAC1 MITTEN was born Abt. 1800, and died November 23, 1874 in Perry County Alms House. He met (1) ELIZABETH FOLTZ in Perry County. She was born Abt. 1844. He married (2) ELIZABETH DEWALT November 21, 1824 in Perry County. She was born March 27, 1802, and died November 04, 1887 in Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA. Notes for ISAAC MITTEN: The family folklore has always included two stories about the Mittens. First that the original Mitten in the U.S. was a English, Irish or Hessian Captain fighting for the British who eloped with a woman named Kennedy and stayed in the U.S. The second was a story written by John Hemminger born Sept 2, 1860, self described as the grandson of David Mitten, writes about his Great Grandfather Mitten: GREAT GRANDFATHER MITTEN By John Hemminger "In my opinion he must have been a man full of vim, vigor and vitality but few moral values. Only in the days of no telephone and no automobile could he have fooled so many people for so many years. He evidently loved to walk and just had to see the other side of the mountain. He could not make up his mind which side he likes better so he solved the problem by building a house on both sides. He had two houses - and two families. He was a smart guy because he never got his families mixed. The family on this side of the mountain (Cumberland Cty, PA) never went to the other side and the family on the other side (Perry Cty) never came to this side. I do not know if the family on the other side ever knew about their wandering father. When the name Mitten appears in the local papers I wonder does he belong to us. Which family is legitimate? I do not know. I do not know if great great grandfather is buried on this side of our mountain, or on the other side. As you know and as they saying goes "Leaving sleeping dogs rest." We now know that Isaac, John's Great Grandfather was the bigamist who went to the other side of the mountain. It appears that the only surviving child on the illegitimate Perry County side was a son John (or was it Thomas) who was a minor when Isaac died. Isaac was a shoemaker so that explains where David learned his trade. Isaac left the Cumberland Cty side of the family at some point and eventually died in the Perry County Alms house. More About ISAAC MITTEN: Address (Facts Pg): November 25, 1874, Listed as from Tyrone Twp in Wedding Announcement Burial: Abt. November 1874, Perry County Alms House Cemetary Census: June 01, 1870, Living with Elizabeth Foltz listed as his Housekeeper, and two small children, Literacy: April 04, 1851, Isaac signed the deed document himself, where wife Elizabeth simply put her X Newpaper Announcement: November 25, 1824, Perry County Forrester, Landisburg, PA announcement of marriage 21 Nov Occupation: 1874, Listed as one time shoemaker in Landisburg, PA Property 1: April 26, 1847, Indenture: Purchase of Land, Deed from Christian Tailor for $330 for purchase of 41 acres and 131 perches land in Miflin Twp, PA. Deed Book, YY(? )Pg 56-57 , Entered 8 Sept 1847 by Robt Middleton, Justice of Peace Property 2: April 04, 1851, Indenture; Sale to John Koch for 40 acres and 86 erches land in Miflin Twp, PA. Deed Book 2C Pg 290-291 witnessed by Robt Middleton Tax Roll 1: 1849, Listed as Shoemaker person # 204 on Miflin Tax Record Tax Roll 2: 1799, Cumberland Cty, PA listed Iaac (sic) Miton, 3h2c and separately an Isaac Miton as a freeman Tax Roll 3: 1802, Cumberland Cty, PA listed Isack(sic) Myton, 3h3c and separately an Isaack Myton as a freeman More About ELIZABETH FOLTZ: Census: June 01, 1870, Listed as housekeeper with 2 young children More About ISAAC MITTEN and ELIZABETH FOLTZ: Other-Begin: Perry County. Believed to have had a son with the last name of Mitten who lived and died in the area. More About ELIZABETH DEWALT: Address (Facts Pg): November 25, 1824, Listed as from Tyrone Twp in Wedding Announcement Burial 1: Abt. November 04, 1887, Lutheran Brick Church, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA Burial 2: Abt. November 04, 1887, Grave is with son David and his wife Elizabeth, her gravestone says Mother, Elizabeth and the dates Literacy: April 04, 1851, Elizabeth only put her X on the deed Newpaper Announcement: November 25, 1824, Perry County Forrester, Landisburg, PA announcement of marriage 21 Nov NOTE: Lutheran Brick Church, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA is Also known as St. Peter's Lutheran Church Property 1: April 26, 1847, Purchase of Land, Deed from Christian Tailor for $330 for purchase of 41 acres and 131 perches land in Miflin Twp, PA. Deed Book, YY(? )Pg 56-57 , Entered 8 Sept 1847 by Robt Middleton, Justice of Peace Property 2: April 04, 1851, Sale of land, Deed to John Koch for 40 acres and 86 erches land in Miflin Twp, PA. Deed Book 2C Pg 290-291 witnessed by Robt Middleton More About ISAAC MITTEN and ELIZABETH DEWALT: Marriage: November 21, 1824, Perry County Newspaper Announcement: November 25, 1824, Announcement of Marriage Children of ISAAC MITTEN and ELIZABETH FOLTZ are: i. JULIAN2 SCHICK, b. Abt. 1868. ii. WILLIAM KEISER, b. Abt. 1869. iii. Thomas Mitten who lived to be an adult More About WILLIAM KEISER: Census: June 01, 1870, Listed with Isaac Mitten and Elizabeth Foltz in Perry Cnty iii. THOMAS MITTEN. More About THOMAS MITTEN: Orphan's Court: Unknown, Thomas was a minor when Isaac died in Perry County Alms House, and David Morrow was appointed guardian Children of ISAAC MITTEN and ELIZABETH DEWALT are: iv. LUCINDA2 MITTEN, m. FRANCES M. STOKES (MYTONS). 2. v. WILLIAM A. MITTEN, b. Abt. March 14, 1822, Based on age at death; d. November 27, 1896, Age 64y 8m 13d. 3. vi. DAVID MITTEN, b. Abt. June 13, 1826, Frankford Township, PA; d. February 13, 1908, Carlisle, PA, Mrs Mary Logan reported. vii. ELIZABETH A. DEWALT MITTEN, m. HUSBAND MILLER. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM A.2 MITTEN (ISAAC1) was born Abt. March 14, 1822 in Based on age at death, and died November 27, 1896 in Age 64y 8m 13d. He married CATHERINE KINDLE. She was born November 26, 1827 in Per Gravestone, and died September 09, 1904 in Per Gravestone. More About WILLIAM A. MITTEN: Burial: Abt. November 27, 1896, Prospect Hill Cemetary, Newville, Newton Twp, Cumberland Co. PA Military service: Co. D. 187 Regt Pa Vol per gravestone More About CATHERINE KINDLE: Burial: Abt. September 09, 1904, Prospect Hill Cemetary, Newville, Newton Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA Child of WILLIAM MITTEN and CATHERINE KINDLE is: i. DAVID J.3 MITTEN, b. Abt. August 01, 1858, Based on age at death; d. July 16, 1859, Per Gravestone. More About DAVID J. MITTEN: Burial: Abt. July 16, 1859, Prospect Hill Cemetary, Newville, Newton Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA 3. DAVID2 MITTEN (ISAAC1) was born Abt. June 13, 1826 in Frankford Township, PA, and died February 13, 1908 in Carlisle, PA, Mrs Mary Logan reported (Source: Death Certificate, Certificate # 0061308 issed March 10 1997.). He married ELIZABETH KOCH, daughter of JOHN KOCH and ELIZABETH. She was born Abt. June 14, 1820, and died February 20, 1899 in Referenced in Orphans Court as deceased 20 Jan 1899. Notes for DAVID MITTEN: In the notes prepared by George Hemminger, there is a section whose source is either George Hemminger or John Mitten, grandson of David. It sounds similar to another section that was definitely written by John. "Grandfather Mitten and Grandmother Mitten were very devote Christians and every morning they had the family worship after all the animals on the farm were taken care of and before breakfast. Grandfather read a chapter from the Bible and then everyone knelt for prayer. Not only Grandfather said a morning prayer but Grandmother also said a morning prayer each praying in clear voices at the same time. This was very confusing to the sons and daughters and I would think very confusing to "Our Father which art in Heaven." Grandfather David Mitten with a wandering father learned to make boots and mend shoes. He learned that in his youth and supported his two sisters and mother. Had a shop- quite large- in the garden. Had a helper and was quite successful. Lost all is money in the Panic. $3000.00, which was quite a sum in those days. At his death he left his children a nice sum. I know it was large enough for my mother to buy a house where she lived until her death. In the family we would call the other guy who would not loan us a much needed dime "David Mitten." More About DAVID MITTEN: Date born 2: June 14, 1826, Frankford Township, PA, per family history prepared by George Hemminger and John Mitten Burial: Abt. February 13, 1908, Lutheran Brick Church, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA Property 1: July 10, 1848, Purchase of Land from John Koch Deed Book J (?) Vol 5 Page 346 which is referred to in Orphans Court Records selling the property 25 May 1911 Property 2: May 25, 1911, Order of Orphans Court confirming sale of land owned by David and Elizabeth. Orphans Court was involved because their son William V. was deceased and left 3 minor children Undertaker: Glaser and Stevens, Newville, PA More About ELIZABETH KOCH: Died 2: February 20, 1899, Age 78y 10m- Died 3: February 20, 1899, Age79yrs 20 days per death certificate (Source: Death Certificate, No 1338, issued April 24, 1997 Clerk of Orphan's Court Based upon Register of Death Docket B Vol 1, No 1338.) Burial: Abt. February 20, 1899, Lutheran Brick Church, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA (Source: Death Certificate.) Occupation: Unknown, Believed to have taught in Zeigler's Church, Mifflin Twp, Cumberland Cnty. Zeigler's was the forerunner of Zion Lutheran Church Property 1: May 25, 1911, Order of Orphans Court confirming sale of land owned by David and Elizabeth. Orphans Court was involved because their son William V. was deceased and left 3 minor children Property 2: July 10, 1848, Purchase of Land from John Koch referenced in Orphans Court document approving sale of land Marriage Notes for DAVID MITTEN and ELIZABETH KOCH: Grandfather Mitten and Grandmother Mitten were very devote Christians and every morning they had family worship after all the animals on the farm were taken care of and before breakfast. Grandfather read a chapter from the Bible and then everyone knelt for prayer. Not only Grandfather said a morning prayer but Grandmother also said a morning prayer each praying in clear voices at the same time. This was very confusing to the sons and daughters and I would think very confusing to "Our Father which art in Heaven." The History of the Hemminger Family of Cumberland Co. PA, Prepared by George E. Hemminger Obtained from Cumberland County Historical Society and the Hamilton Library Association in April 1995 from Christa Bassett (Library Assistant in 1995. Also obtained from a hand-me-down copy of the original directly from Ruth Rogene Hemminger Children of DAVID MITTEN and ELIZABETH KOCH are: i. ALFRED . K.3 MITTEN. ii. JOHN D. MITTEN. iii. MARY MITTEN, b. March 20, 1845; d. April 30, 1920; m. LOGAN. 4. iv. JANE ELLEN MITTEN, b. October 18, 1848; d. Abt. January 31, 1920. 5. v. WILLIAM V. MITTEN, b. December 27, 1850; d. March 05, 1905, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA. 6. vi. FRANK. J. MITTEN, b. December 27, 1852; d. March 14, 1929. vii. JAMES B MITTEN, b. April 18, 1856; d. California. viii. ROBERT E. MITTEN, b. September 02, 1858; d. Ohio. ix. DAVID MITTEN, b. Unknown; d. March 24, 1885, Gravestone reads son of David and Elizabeth, and transcribed as 0-3-4, which is impossible in terms of age, but he is buried with them. . More About DAVID MITTEN: Burial: March 24, 1885, Lutheran Brick Church, Frankford Twp, Cumberland Cty, PA