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    1. [PACUMBER] Ship's Lists - 1700's Phniladelphia
    2. Hal Laube
    3. Some time ago I asked What age male was required to take the oath? I would like to thank those who responded. The answer to my original question was found in a very interesting Introduction in the reference given below -- page xxii "male passengers of 16 years upwards were ordered to sign ..." in acknowledgement that they had taken three oaths. Three oaths. Yes. This posting goes a bit beyond that original question. If you have not read the text associated with the following reference I would suggest that if you are working with ship's records it is a must - Pennsylvania German pioneers Vol 1 1727-1775 A Publication of the Original List of Arrivals in The port of Philadelphia 1727 -1808 Ralph Beaver Strassburger Edited by William John Hinke Second Printing in Two Volumes. Volume I 1727-1775. Published by the Genealogical Publishing Company in 1980. In the Preface the publishers state that they have omitted the section containing the actual signatures (Volume II), but with that exception and a few other minor comments this version is said to be an exact copy of the original publication. I had it on CD 267 Broderbund. Also on that Cd are the following which I do not find helpful - to say the least--- [One Thousand Immigrant names in Pa 1727-1776 p 255 did not have all of the data given above- I will not use] [Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance p 174 did not have all of the data given above-I will not use] There are three lists in Volume I. The A list was the captain's ship list. It is not often available. An example p 360 List 110 B "Foreigners Imported Ship Ann Galley William Wilson, Captain from Rotterdam Qualified Sept 27, 1746" [ A note states: This is the Endorsed: list of Palatines imported in the Ann Gally (not Galley).] The oath associated with list B was an oath of allegiance to King George II Included are: Michael Egolff ( ) Johannes Egolff ( ) vs spellings Michael Egolff jr ( ) A note explains that the ( ) means that a clerk entered the name for a person who was absent and did not sign. The same names, with small differences in Johnnes spelling - including the ( ) are found on List C. List C was a Oath of Abjuration - I will summarize it - but you really should read it - One swore that he abhorred the thought of the Pope having jurisdiction of the king, and in the other one abhorred the claims of descendants of James I'st of Scotland to king George's throne. In other words on September 27, 1746, Michael EGOLFF, 1st, and Michael Egolff, junior and Johannes Egolff (vs spelling) are listed with those who gathered at City Hall to affirm their allegiance to King George II. And swear that they abhorred ..... so and so - but they were not there and they did not sign. Strassburger in the Forward page ix, states that the oath of allegiance lists are incomplete in that they only are those who were not sick on the day they were supposed to sign. In the Introduction page xxiv he further states that after 1739 the Clerk of the Council wrote in the names of absent passengers. I have made up a little story as to why they were not there and I will send it as a PDF attachment to any one who wants it. Several have already let me know there know interest and I have them on file - no need to duplicate. best regards Hal

    11/08/2002 06:57:42