This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/452.490.1 Message Board Post: Jeanne, My husband descends through William Gumbert also. I note nearly everyone states that William was born in Westmoreland County in 1798. I agree with the 1798 date, but my research shows that Christian Gumbert and his family were still living in Tyrone Township, Cumberland County on at least April 15, 1800 when he and his wife Margaret signed a deed selling their land to Charles McCoy. They then left Cumberland County (now Perry County) and were in Westmoreland in time for the 1800 census. Based on this, I would contend that William was born in Cumberland County. Johan William Weber, a Luthern minister, baptized William (born Wilhelm) in Westmoreland on August 17, 1800. The same minister also later baptized Christian Jr.'s (William's older brother) two oldest children. Incidentally, 1793-99 tax records for Tyrone Township list not only Christian Gumber, but also a John Gumber (his missing father????) and a Valentine Gumber. A William Gumber witnessed at least two legal documents for Christian. I surmise Christian's son William was named for this William. You also mentioned in another message on this board that Johann Gamber, William's grandfather, came to PA in 1732 as an indentured servant. Most researchers I've read are unsure of Johann's arrival in the US, and as a result, it is questioned whether his son Christian (b. circa 1740) was born in Germany or in PA. Can you confirm your information? Thanks, Sandy