This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LeePierre Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/840.937.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I, too, am a descendant of John Shirey, born 24 Nov 1773 in Franklin Co., PA. His fifth child was Augustus (not Augusta as many claim), born ~1817 in Greencastle, Franklin Co., PA. His first born was Charles, born ~1838 in Greencastle, died in 1864 in the Civil War. He married Rebecca Braham on 1 Dec 1861. They had a son, Elmer C. Shirey, born 15 July 1862 in Jefferson Co., PA (?). What I have been able to piece together is that after Charles' death, Rebecca quickly remarried a Mr. Rupley, who was also killed in the Civil War! Rebecca Rupley can be found in the 1880 US Census living with her first in-laws, Augustus and Maria Shirey then living in GreenCastle, Franklin Co., PA. Her son, Elmer C. Shirey is found in the 1870 US Census living with Rebecca's parents! However, the transcriber lists him as Elmer Skerry, but when you look at the actual page, you can see that the enumerator spelled it correctly as Elmer Shirey! In 1880 he is listed independently as a student. I am still waiting to receive a copy of the Civil War widowers and orphans documents that will prove my "theory." Unfortunately, most Shirey researchers list my great grandfather ! (Elmer C.) as a child of Alexander Shirey who had a son named Elmer G. Shirey very close to the same birth date for Elmer C....but Elmer G. died young and is NOT the same as Elmer C.!! I don't even know if you are still active on this site...I hope you are and that I get a reply from you! I am very interested in knowing more about John and his family. Are they from Switzerland or Germany? Was his father a Shirey or a Scheurer or a Scheurar??? Did John have more than one wife (as some suggest?) other than Anna Maria Ruthrauff? I look forward to your reply. Blessings, Lee-Pierre Shirey son of Jacob Lee Shirey, son of Howard Lee Shirey, son of Elmer C. Shirey! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.