This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjcr51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/1141.327/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Perhaps you have already received this information, but Lovina (my records have her as Alvina) born in 1848 to Jacob Lay and Catherine Clouse. Jacob's father was Jacob, his mother was Hannah Henry. Catherine's parents were John Clouse and Christina ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.