Hello................ If that is the 1887 version of the book, it can be found online at: http://usgwarchives.net/pa/franklin/wbeerstoc.htm More and more books are being digitized and placed online which is great. The only problem is finding them. Cheers, Rebel Kreklow -----Original Message----- >From: Janet Rogers <rogers922@intrstar.net> >Sent: Sep 18, 2009 8:36 PM >To: pacumber@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PACUMBER] HISTORY OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA Book > >I hate to ask, but do you have this book? Would you be willing to do a >lookup for me on 3 names? > >I have a wall, a rather large wall, it is big and hairy and full of rebar >and it won't let me through...LOL. > >Please let me know if you would be willing. > >Blessings, >Janet > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hate to ask, but do you have this book? Would you be willing to do a lookup for me on 3 names? I have a wall, a rather large wall, it is big and hairy and full of rebar and it won't let me through...LOL. Please let me know if you would be willing. Blessings, Janet

Have you seen this bit on your collateral line?: > ********************** > SOURCE: HISTORY OF FRANKLIN COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA 1887,Warner, > Beers & Co. Chicago 1887 > p. 823 > SARAH MACLAY d/o WILLIAM MACLAY and MARY HARRIS b.1781 m. JOHN IRWIN > p. 825 > CATHERINE MACLAY (JOHN, CHARLES, JOHN, CHARLES) b. 1760 in Lurgan > Twp. m. WILLIAM IRWIN; they removed to Lexington KY 1784 w/ two > sons: JOHN IRWIN b. 1785 and STEPHENSON IRWIN b. 1787. > SALLIE MACLAY (WILLIAM, CHARLES, JOHN, CHARLES) m. MAJOR JOHN > IRWIN; their dau. ELLEN m. DR. CALEB BRINTON of West Chester and > had issue: some of their descendants (DR. BRINTON JR. and family) > are living in West Chester.[1887] > CHARLES B. MACLAY (JOHN, JOHN, CHARLES, JOHN, CHARLES) m. SIDNEY > IRWIN of Mercersburg. > ******************** Looks like the Macclays and the Irwins got along well! Cheers, Arlene On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:01 AM, pacumber-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Irwin, Irvins (ethunter@comcast.net) > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rvreed73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/1305.2124/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am Vickie Claudy Reed; hometown: Chambersburg, PA Franklin Co. My father was Donald W. Claudy (b.1928 in New Cumberland d.1999 Chambersburg) son of Harry & Zelda (Hinkle) Claudy & raised by his grandmother Mary. Harry's parents were John & Mary Claudy--their children or those that I can recall were William; Harry; Mary; Isabelle but can't recall the other's names. I too & looking to reconnect with William's children Jenny & Billy Claudy & others. Have found Mary Claudy Washabaugh's daughter Mary Grace Jones. Are we of the same decendants? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have a William Irwin, b. c. 1730; d. 1790 in Southampton Twsp., Franklin  Co., PA.  He married Marha ? and they had 8 children:  Elizabeth, Mary, Jennet, Martha, Margaret, Ann, William, and John Elizabeth md. ? Hunter and they had two children:  William Irwiin Hunter and Martha Hunter.  William Irwin was my gggf, b. 13 Dec 1780 in Franklin Co. Most of my information follows William Irwin  H. and his descendants. Mary md. John Mitchell Jennet (Jean) md  William Strain (license issued 7 Dec 1772) Martha md. David Simerall and they had 6 children: Jane, Margaret, John, David, James and Mary. Ann md. John Ogilby.  Moved to Washington, PA and then to Belmont, OH William md Catherine Maclay.  I only know of one child, John Maclay (M.C.) Irwin. None of this sounds like it is related to your questions; however, if you dohave any information on this family, I would appreciate hearing from you. ( ethunter@comcast.net )

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Diane Hettrick Surnames: Irwin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5480.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I appreciate your information. When I do get back to that area of research, it will be useful in sorting out the various lines or Irwin (if you haven't done it first - go right ahead!). Of course the problem with the Scotch-Irish in Pennsylvania is that so many of them came at the same time - 30,000, I have heard, and most between 1740 - 1790, interrupted by the Revolutionary War. The good thing is that they stayed in family groups and groups from the same villages in Northern Ireland. Diane dhettrick@earthlink.n Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: historymom16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5477.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much Judy. I appreciate it. Diane Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edwirvin Surnames: Irwins, Boyds Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5480/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Diane and John for your replies. The Pennsylvania origins of my Virginia Irvins is shrouded in mystery. Much of what I have is purely circumstantial. I am a primary source guy who tries to avoid the Lucinda Boyd drivel in "Irvines & Kin" and the other vanity "histories". But sometimes we have no other choice. The clue for me is the name Abraham used in conjunction with the names John, Christopher, and Andrew. Abraham is a relatively rare name for the Irwins. Bedford county, Virginia John had a son Abraham that was supposedly born on board the ship in the transit over from Ireland. A Christopher Erwin of neighboring Prince Edward county had sons Abraham, Andrew, William, Christopher, and daughter Margaret. Prince Edward Christopher died in the 1760's. One John Erwin was one of the executors named in the will. I suspect old John and deceased Christopher to be brothers but I cannot prove that yet. I have several sources for some Pennsylvania Irvins--some primary-! -some not so primary. Attached are some clues. Edwin http://www.usgwarchives.org/pa/1pa/paarchivesseries/series2/vol2/pass2-13.html http://wapedia.mobi/en/Middle_Spring_Presbyterian_Church Click on all the links to see some of the old references to John and Margaret Erwin. http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=BookList&dbid=14524&offerid=0:7858:0 You may have to be an ancestry subscriber to read this one. I'm not sure. John married one Margaret Boyd? This may all be a stab in the dark and may be no relation to my kin at all. John and Margaret had other children besides Abraham.--Robert, Elizabeth, Nancy, (supposedly captured by indians, then rescued, shortly before the French and Indian war)Margaret, William, and John Jr. These children surely were baptized somewhere in Pa. I suspect my Irvins landed in Philadelphia about 1738? settled eventually in Cumberland, then moved to Virginia soon after Braddock's Defeat. Who knows? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jirwin307 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5479.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Edwin, I have been researching the Irwin families of Cumberland County in that time frame for several years. So far, I have identified 10 different families, but none with the Christopher and Abraham names. I would happily share what I have. Regards, John Irwin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Edwin, I have been researching the Irwin families of Cumberland County in that time frame for several years. So far, I have identified 10 different families, but none with the Christopher and Abraham names. I would happily share what I have. Regards, John Irwin -----Original Message----- From: pacumber-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacumber-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:46 PM To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACUMBER] Irvines, Irwins, Irvins This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edwirvin Surnames: irvines, irwins irvins erwins boyds Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti es.cumberland/5479/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am grasping at straws here. Perhaps someone can help me. I am looking for Irvins/Irwins who moved to Virginia in the late 1750's? Their given names are John, Christopher, and Abraham Irvin. Men of the same name appear on the Petition of Defence from Cumberland county dated Aug. 7, 1755. They also appear to have served with Joseph Armstrong in the Militia from Cumberland. I have seen them perhaps associated with Lurgan Township, or Hopewell, and maybe the Middle Springs Presbyterian Meeting House. As far as I can tell, these Irvins are not related to the Irwins (James & Archibald, etc.) further south in Peters Township. John Irvin married one Mary Boyd, supposedly in Ireland and son Abraham was born aboard ship on the trip over to Pa. Maybe around 1739-1743? They probably settled in the Valley prior to the formation of Cumberland. Christopher may be John's brother and Abraham's uncle? Who knows? Lots of speculation and drivel from the old "vanity histories" but ver! y little primary source evidence. Does anyone have a clue? I can help someone with Virginia sources but I am just now working my way up the hill to Pennsylvania. Thanks, Edwin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In response to Donn's query about Italian church records, there are many online sites with excellent resources for Italian genealogy research. Guidelines for Italian genealogy researchers can be found at: The Italian Genealogical Group: http://www.italiangen.org/ Italy World Club - http://www.italyworldclub.com/genealogy/ Cyndi's List: www.cyndislist.com/italy.htm <http://cyndislist.com/italy.htm> Italian Genealogy: http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/ My Italian Family - http://www.myitalianfamily.com/?gclid=CIjJ3dDk85wCFQRM5QodFzhutQ D'Addezio, the Italian Heritage and Genealogy Site: http://www.daddezio.com/ Guidelines to records and resources to obtain them are included on several of these. Anita Camplese

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Diane Hettrick Surnames: Irwin, Irvin, Hunter, Nelson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5479.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No help for you, but I can commiserate. We have tried to work the Irwin/Irvin lines before and never found anything. I have a Maria Irwin who married James W. Hunter in Miami County, Ohio in 1843. She was said to be born in Ireland in 1823, the daughter of John Irwin and Fanny Nelson. James Hunter was born in Ohio, to parents from what is now Perry County, Pennsylvania. A large group of Scotch-Irish from Perry County moved to Miami County Ohio and for the first generation at least, we have traced virtually every marriage back to Perry County families. But no luck in Pennsylvania, although I must admit I have not worked on them for a very long time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edwirvin Surnames: irvines, irwins irvins erwins boyds Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5479/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am grasping at straws here. Perhaps someone can help me. I am looking for Irvins/Irwins who moved to Virginia in the late 1750's? Their given names are John, Christopher, and Abraham Irvin. Men of the same name appear on the Petition of Defence from Cumberland county dated Aug. 7, 1755. They also appear to have served with Joseph Armstrong in the Militia from Cumberland. I have seen them perhaps associated with Lurgan Township, or Hopewell, and maybe the Middle Springs Presbyterian Meeting House. As far as I can tell, these Irvins are not related to the Irwins (James & Archibald, etc.) further south in Peters Township. John Irvin married one Mary Boyd, supposedly in Ireland and son Abraham was born aboard ship on the trip over to Pa. Maybe around 1739-1743? They probably settled in the Valley prior to the formation of Cumberland. Christopher may be John's brother and Abraham's uncle? Who knows? Lots of speculation and drivel from the old "vanity histories" but ver! y little primary source evidence. Does anyone have a clue? I can help someone with Virginia sources but I am just now working my way up the hill to Pennsylvania. Thanks, Edwin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Folks: A friend of mine is beginning his family tree. His family is new to the USA - only about 3rd or 4th generation here. He found out at a family reunion that his family can be traced back to a town about 15 miles or so from Rome, Italy and he was told that the family name was changed from another surname to NERICCIO. We were wondering if there are any church records for Roman Catholic churches near this area in Italy and if so - how could we find them?? I am familiar with searching records in the USA but not outside of our country... any help appreciated!!! Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sco1t Surnames: James, Davis, Ross Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/5478/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there any story or publication in Cumberland Co PA. about the Nov.1 1755 Indian attack concerning Meshach James Family? Did Meshach die in the attach? I know his two sons were carried off by the indians, but have not found if Mechach survived or not. Thanks Scot Novak sanova@atlanticbb.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EYoungVignola Surnames: EINSTEIN, SHARP, SHUGHART Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/626.628.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mary, I just had the good fortune of reading your note dating back to 2008. Yes, we are related. I remember both your grandmother, my Aunt Marie, and your mom, Pat. Do you have ANY genealogy information on the SHARP or SHUGHART side of our families? Eileen Young-Vignola 6473 Drexel Road Philadelphia, PA 19151 efyv@msn.com 215-620-6159 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DouglasBarnes369 Surnames: ICKES Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/626.627.658.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: BettyJane Would you email at my addy I would like to talk to you about the off line you have in the ICKES. Sorta of curious on how they fit in. I am an ICKES cousin. I am curious to see where the link is. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 001bettyjane Surnames: Kell, Comp, Lay, Shughart, Ickes, Hartman, Baker, Culbertson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/626.627.658/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My gr grandfather William Kell was md.to Susannah Shughart daughter of William and Mary Shughart. My gr grandfather's brother Peter Kell married Eliza Shughart a sister of Susannah's and Jonas Shughart a brother was married to Fanny Kell. Talk about a family reunion!!!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: victorpm1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.cumberland/3559.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. Do you know if any of Alexander's or James descendants were also Alexander who was possibly born in or near Harrisburg in 1848/1849 and may have been orphaned? Thanks, Paul Mullin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks to Judy Bookwalter, the HISTORY section of Beers 1886 History of Cumberland and Adams Cos is now online. http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/cumberland/ in the Area History section. A great addition. Bios to come soon. Also Young's UME Cemetery with TS picts. This page is not linked, but will be soon. http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/cumberland/photos/cemeteries/youngs-ume/youngcem.html Thanks to Theresa Smith. Similar to her listing on Find a Grave. We have done a bit of census and will digging to correct a couple of misreadings on a few hard to read stones. Joe Patterson