The 1858 Atlas, available from CCHS has 2 Thummas, both apparently in Frankford, 30 Wolfs, none in Mechanicsburg or Silver Spring,but 3 in Monroe; no Heigleys. Is this the right time period? This map dos not go farther west than the Hogestown Road. My modern map shows that West Street which is now in Mechanicsburg was in either Upper Allen or Monroe township at that time. Possibly Silver Spring. This map seems to have residences but not cemeteries. ----- Original Message ----- From: <s1ingram@aol.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:03 AM Subject: [PACUMBER] THUMMA / WOLF / HEIGLEY / Mechanicsburg Area > Does anyone have any maps that would show land ownership for Mechanicsburg > and the surrounding areas? > > I'm looking for land that belonged to: HEIGLEY / THUMMA / WOLF > > Also I'm looking for any old map that may show the old cemetery that sat on > West Street on the end of Mechanicsburg... > > I'm also interested in the Trindle Springs area...as that is where I believe > the Heigley family and Thumma family owned land.... > > I'm not sure where the Wolf family owned...but I know they did.... > > thanks....Susan > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to all who brought this subject up..... From the Plot listing for Camp Hill Cemetery ....... Hope this clears up Oyster's Point Cem..... Open issue is the real surname of SHARFFBARGAR/MARSTZBARGER or whatever.... 5 21 FUNK (FLINK?) Abraham 5 21 MAY Frederick 5 21 NICHOLS Ann 5 21 SHARFFBARGAR (HERSHBERGER?) Anna 5 21 SHARFFBARGAR (HERSHBERGER?) Jacob 5 21 _____ _____ 5 21 _____AY _____ UNK location NICHOLS Maria I would guess the two MAY listings from Zeamer's reading are the other two here. And Maria Nichols most likely in sect 5 plot 21....... with the other Oyster's Point removals. OYSTER'S POINT GRAVEYARD UNKNOWN LOCATION FUNK, Abraham d 6-11-1825, b 1-27-1751 MARSTZBARGER, Jacob d 11-30-1785, age 60y MARKBARGER, Anna d 3-7-1826, b 1-13-1743, German MAY, Frederick, Sr. d 1-8-1837, b 12-24-1765 Christiana d 10-29-1825, b 11-15-1772, w/o Frederick, Sr. Frederick, Jr. d 12-5-1842, b 5-25-1829 NICHOLS, Ann d 5-30-1845, b 1-29-1779 Maria d 4-30-1885, age 82y 2m 13d -- joe

Janice: I can't help you with your Oyster Point search;however, the names you list appear several times in my data. Perhaps they may be of interest. Here goes: Raymond Hershberger -------- J. Irvin Hershberger --------- Rev David J. Hershberger,b. 16 Sep 1846 near Davidsville, Somerset Co. d. 19 Feb 1920, Salix, Cambria Co. bur. GrandView Cemetery West of Johnstown. md. Rachel Bowman Lohr in 1866 , d. 23 Jun 1934, Armstrong Co. ---------- Jacob Hershberger md. Catherine Keyser George Lohr b. <3 Apr 1809, md.Susanna Bowman ---------- Henry Hershberger, arr. in US 3 Nov 1750 on "Brotherhood". md. Mary Blough. Had 5 sons, 3 daughters John George Lohr b. <1 Jan 1777 md. Barbara Miller. Children: Henry, George, Maria. Do you see any connection between our two sets of Hershbergers and Bowmans? Ted Hunter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:07:44 -0400 > From: Janice <janbuff@comcast.net> > To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com > > I have a deed dated March 31, 1827 from Anna HERSHBERGER's executors to Samuel NICHOLS for a tract of land in East Pennsboro township. This tract was purchased from Edmund Physick who bought one of the original blocks of land within the boundaries of what is now Camp Hill. This land that Samuel NICHOLS purchased from Anna HERSHBERGER's estate was bounded by lands of James WHITEHALL, Samuel SHOOP, Michael RUBY, Abraham OYSTER, and the Harrisburg to Carlisle turnpike (what is now called the Carlisle Pike and Market Street). > > My question is - does anyone have any of the deeds for the adjoining lands listed above? I am trying to find out where this land is located in Camp Hill. The deed metioned above restricts land in perpetuity for a small cemetery. I believe this cemetery was called Oyster's Point Cemetery. Oyster's Point was located where a tavern existed near present day 30th and Market Streets (where Trindle Road and the Carlisle Pike used to intersect), so I am guessing it was near there. To my knowledge, the only cemetery in that area is the Camp Hill cemetery near the Church of God off market Street at 23rd, and I don't think that one is it. > > I am very curious about where the land was, and what happened to the cemetery. > > Other names I am researching in Camp Hill before 1860 are: John BOWMAN married to Regina WOLF, Madgelena FUNK married to Peter STEIGLEMAN, Abraham FUNK, Dr. Austin NICHOLS married to Ann BOWMAN, John Bowman married to Catherine DAVIS. > > Any help is appreciated. Thanks! > > Janice Buffington

thanks Bill, Will get that one listed properly now that a location is known. -- joe

From the county archives, ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/cumberland/cemeteries/wpenn01.txt comes the following: OYSTER'S POINT GRAVEYARD UNKNOWN LOCATION FUNK, Abraham d 6-11-1825, b 1-27-1751 MARSTZBARGER, Jacob d 11-30-1785, age 60y MARKBARGER, Anna d 3-7-1826, b 1-13-1743, German MAY, Frederick, Sr. d 1-8-1837, b 12-24-1765 Christiana d 10-29-1825, b 11-15-1772, w/o Frederick, Sr. Frederick, Jr. d 12-5-1842, b 5-25-1829 NICHOLS, Ann d 5-30-1845, b 1-29-1779 Maria d 4-30-1885, age 82y 2m 13d Looks like it got mixed in with West Pennsboro somehow. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ame Willis Ivanov" <ame@alaska.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Oyster Point Cemetery > Bobby, I looked farther, the map on page 30, c. 1837, also shows a cemetery at Oyster Point- It is on the Carlisle (SW?) side of 32nd. Isn't that under a Pier One or some drug store now? > Ame > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Search this mail list. > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Janice etal, Bob Davidson lists the following in his book, "Cemeteries of Cumberland County": Oyster's Point, enumerated by Zeamer, CCHS Ref #144, junction of old rte 11 and 641, leveled, 5 stones removed to Camp Hill cemetery. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice" <janbuff@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > I have a deed dated March 31, 1827 from Anna HERSHBERGER's executors to Samuel NICHOLS for a tract of land in East Pennsboro township....

I'm looking for information on who owned the large house on the corner of York Street and West Winding Hill around 1927....does anyone have a paper that would show who owned this home? thanks....susan

Does anyone have any maps that would show land ownership for Mechanicsburg and the surrounding areas? I'm looking for land that belonged to: HEIGLEY / THUMMA / WOLF Also I'm looking for any old map that may show the old cemetery that sat on West Street on the end of Mechanicsburg... I'm also interested in the Trindle Springs area...as that is where I believe the Heigley family and Thumma family owned land.... I'm not sure where the Wolf family owned...but I know they did.... thanks....Susan

I am looking for information on any Quarterman's in the Cumberland Co. area. Would appreciate anyone with any kind of information on this name contacting me. Thank you Paulette Quarterman

Crist discussed the Poplar Church Cemetery (used as early as 1784-considered full by the 1850's) and the "newer cemetery" which originated as a private burying ground for John Bowman the elder and his relatives. (pages 69-70). I have not spotted any discussion of the Oyster Point Cemetery in the book. The Bowman cemetery was set up in John Bowman's will, "probated" according to Crist in 1843. This is what became the Camp Hill Cemetery. The earlier Poplar Church cemetery is on a modern map as Poplar Grove Cemetery and is on 21st, past the Holy Sprit Hospital. I am not sure what Crist means by using "probated" in this context, since that is a 20th century usage. Crist may be referring to registering the will (Registrar's Will Index) or Court orders entered in Orphans Court Dockets for that year. The will index will not reference OC proceedings. I believe unified Probate or Estate files were not adopted until 1947 or about then. I also found a reference on page 33 to a 1787 deed from Physick to Ann Herschberger, 99 acres of lot 23. It does not say exactly where on lot 23, but identifies a late deed of another part of lot 23 , in 1791, bounded by the Lisburn Road (32nd). Sorry, I have no idea if any copies of the book are currently available. A reprint would be great. Ame ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice" <janbuff@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > Thank you all for your help. I too am local to the area (Lewisberry), and > have driven all over Camp Hill looking for the cemetery, although I never > thought to look UNDER the Pier 1 store :-) It drives me crazy that > cemeteries are able to be destroyed. > > The Maria Nichols on the 1858 map was a sister to my Samuel, and he gave her > a portion of his land when he moved to Buffalo NY. > > I have been through the cemetery at 32nd street a few times, and did not see > any of the graves that would have originally been in the Oyster Point > cemetery. I wonder if they were buried with the original stones? > > Does anyone know if this book by Crist is still available for purchase > anywhere? It sounds like a great source for my lines. I have difficulty > making it to a library (2 small children) so I do most of my research at > night. > > Thank you. > Janice Buffington > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bobby Troup" <robert.e.troup@verizon.net> > To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:53 PM > Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > > > > Hi: > > > > I too have a copy of Camp Hill A History by Robert Grant Crist. If you > look > > at the map on pages 20-21, near the crease, near the top of the right > hand... > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you all for your help. I too am local to the area (Lewisberry), and have driven all over Camp Hill looking for the cemetery, although I never thought to look UNDER the Pier 1 store :-) It drives me crazy that cemeteries are able to be destroyed. The Maria Nichols on the 1858 map was a sister to my Samuel, and he gave her a portion of his land when he moved to Buffalo NY. I have been through the cemetery at 32nd street a few times, and did not see any of the graves that would have originally been in the Oyster Point cemetery. I wonder if they were buried with the original stones? Does anyone know if this book by Crist is still available for purchase anywhere? It sounds like a great source for my lines. I have difficulty making it to a library (2 small children) so I do most of my research at night. Thank you. Janice Buffington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Troup" <robert.e.troup@verizon.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > Hi: > > I too have a copy of Camp Hill A History by Robert Grant Crist. If you look > at the map on pages 20-21, near the crease, near the top of the right hand...

Yes, Pier 1 is the oldest of the two building and the CVS Pharmacy was just built two years ago. The lady that knew this area well passed away, who lived across the street from me, but I'll check further as to the move of the bodies from the cemetery. I have lived in this area for about 35 years and have done research for 55. At present I have about 218,500 names in my database and add new names almost every day. Bobby robert.e.troup@verizon.net My Website: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/mapleave

Hi: I too have a copy of Camp Hill A History by Robert Grant Crist. If you look at the map on pages 20-21, near the crease, near the top of the right hand page, you will see Peace Church. Follow Trindle Road towards you and where it almost meets The C Great Road, you will see the cemetery marked. I had to pull my pages apart a little to see it. Bobby Troup robert.e.troup@verizon.net My Website: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/mapleave

Hi Janice: I can help you out as I live near here. It was near 32nd and Market St. The people in the cemetery were moved to the cemetery in Camp Hill but I will need to do a little checking before I can answer for sure. Bobby Troup robert.e.troup@verizon.net My Website: http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/mapleave

Janice, The 1858 Atlas shows a piece of land across the road west of the Oyster Point Hotel as belonging to Maria Nichols. This is next to Abraham Oyster's land. You can probably request deeds in her name from the Registrar of Deeds at the Cumberland co. Ct. House. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice" <janbuff@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > I have a deed dated March 31, 1827 from Anna HERSHBERGER's executors to Samuel NICHOLS for a tract of land in East Pennsboro township. .....

I have a deed dated March 31, 1827 from Anna HERSHBERGER's executors to Samuel NICHOLS for a tract of land in East Pennsboro township. This tract was purchased from Edmund Physick who bought one of the original blocks of land within the boundaries of what is now Camp Hill. This land that Samuel NICHOLS purchased from Anna HERSHBERGER's estate was bounded by lands of James WHITEHALL, Samuel SHOOP, Michael RUBY, Abraham OYSTER, and the Harrisburg to Carlisle turnpike (what is now called the Carlisle Pike and Market Street). My question is - does anyone have any of the deeds for the adjoining lands listed above? I am trying to find out where this land is located in Camp Hill. The deed metioned above restricts land in perpetuity for a small cemetery. I believe this cemetery was called Oyster's Point Cemetery. Oyster's Point was located where a tavern existed near present day 30th and Market Streets (where Trindle Road and the Carlisle Pike used to intersect), so I am guessing it was near there. To my knowledge, the only cemetery in that area is the Camp Hill cemetery near the Church of God off market Street at 23rd, and I don't think that one is it. I am very curious about where the land was, and what happened to the cemetery. Other names I am researching in Camp Hill before 1860 are: John BOWMAN married to Regina WOLF, Madgelena FUNK married to Peter STEIGLEMAN, Abraham FUNK, Dr. Austin NICHOLS married to Ann BOWMAN, John Bowman married to Catherine DAVIS. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Janice Buffington

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/85.2049 Message Board Post: JUlia Ann Eckles is my gr, gr, gr, grandmother. She was married to a Jacob Barndt and they lived in New Lexington, Ohio. If you haven't received information already, you might be interested in what I have. Susan

Bobby, I looked farther, the map on page 30, c. 1837, also shows a cemetery at Oyster Point- It is on the Carlisle (SW?) side of 32nd. Isn't that under a Pier One or some drug store now? Ame

I am an Abraham Oyster descendant. I do not have any deeds, and so far no information on an Oyster Point cemetery- I will keep checking my materials. However, a fairly detailed map of the Camp Hill area from 1872, does not indicate any cemetery except the one on 21st. The map does have several residences indicated along 21st, one of which is labeled "Mrs. Nichols". There are also numerous Bowman and Oyster residences on the same map. Abraham Oyster owned quite a bit of land and may have had land on 21st. He built a house at 2919 Market Street about 1860 which was referred to as the "homestead" and is still in existence- as a store selling expensive "interior decor" stuff. The same book that has this map, "Camp Hill, A History" by Robert Grant Crist (1984) has a five generation Bowman genealogy from Samuel Bowman (1733-1807). If you do not have access to the book, and would like me to copy some of the pages, I will be happy to do so. The is undoubtedly more Bowman data in the book, and I know there is a series of photos of the Addison Bowman house, a beautiful limestone off Market street. I did not check for the other names, but do see Wolf on the map. Contact me at ame@alaska.net if you would like me to send you any of this. Ame Willis Ivanov WILLIS, KOONS, KOONTZ, HEIKES, OYSTER, KEISECKER AND SMITH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice" <janbuff@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [PACUMBER] land location in Camp Hill > I have a deed dated March 31, 1827 from Anna HERSHBERGER's executors to Samuel NICHOLS for a tract of land in East Pennsboro township. This tract was purchased from Edmund Physick who bought one of the original blocks of land within the boundaries of what is now Camp Hill. This land that Samuel NICHOLS purchased from Anna HERSHBERGER's estate was bounded by lands of James WHITEHALL, Samuel SHOOP, Michael RUBY, Abraham OYSTER, and the Harrisburg to Carlisle turnpike (what is now called the Carlisle Pike and Market Street). > > My question is - does anyone have any of the deeds for the adjoining lands listed above? I am trying to find out where this land is located in Camp Hill. The deed metioned above restricts land in perpetuity for a small cemetery. I believe this cemetery was called Oyster's Point Cemetery. Oyster's Point was located where a tavern existed near present day 30th and Market Streets (where Trindle Road and the Carlisle Pike used to intersect), so I am guessing it was near there. To my knowledge, the only cemetery in that area is the Camp Hill cemetery near the Church of God off market Street at 23rd, and I don't think that one is it. > > I am very curious about where the land was, and what happened to the cemetery. > > Other names I am researching in Camp Hill before 1860 are: John BOWMAN married to Regina WOLF, Madgelena FUNK married to Peter STEIGLEMAN, Abraham FUNK, Dr. Austin NICHOLS married to Ann BOWMAN, John Bowman married to Catherine DAVIS. > > Any help is appreciated. Thanks! > > Janice Buffington > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/170.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Alan, If I'm correct your George C., Jr. was born Sept. 6, 1836 and d. in Jefferson Co., PA Sept.15, 1894. He was married to Hetty Kelly. He was the brother of my g-grandfather Edward Zetler. So, hi cousin! Do you know anything at all about their mother Mary Canary? We have looked for information on her family for years and come up empty-handed every time. Everyone has a brick wall, and she's one of ours. I you know anything about her, I'd love to know. Will be happy to share information with you on the Zetlers if you'd like. Regards, Ron Wilson