This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Hi, Janice!! I have another Bowman/Bauman query I have been answer- ing, and may have sent you confusing information. I have been trying to link the Bauman of Ephrata [Johannes] with my grgrgrgrandfather Christian Bowman,b. 1794 that married Mary Mohler. He was supposed to have been born in Lancaster Co., but I am no longer sure, as I have tried every source in Lancaster to find his parents. I have a big file on the Ephrata Bauman\Bowman family and will share what I have. Myron Dunning

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Do you have any children listed for the Christian Bowman b. 1774 and Barbara? They could have been parents of a Christian Bowman b. 1794. That is why I mentioned Barbara as a possible mother.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Was it someone else that was talking about a Samuel Bowman? I may be posting some of this to the wrong person.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2916 Message Board Post: Hello all, Just started in on my Bowman ancestor and already have a tangle of knots. There's Bowman's everywhere ! And I'm trying to figure out which are mine. The facts I have (and not because I found them but because I trust the two researchers in the past - Silas Diller c.1905 and Robert Diller c. 1940) are there was a Jacob Bowman at least in the vicinity of Cumberland County Pa who had a daughter Elizabeth old enough to be married in 1800. Meaning he was born circa 1760 or before. I've started searching the Internet (I know there's no such thing as Internet genealogy but all the work and effort put out here has got to provide at the very least some great clues). I was beginning to focus on a cluster of Bowmans in Berks county in the 1790 census (per abstract). But questions have been raised ; which is great - I know genealogy is a never ending process and it never hurts my feelings to be challenged. And upon reviewing my source a disturbing new monkey wrench appears. Suppossedly the Diller family had an old family Bible from the original Diller, Frantz Tueller of Switzerland (to use the old spelling). But Robert Diller, in 1944, noted some discrepencies in the provenance of the Bible. In particular he noted that the Bible had " a brass plate with the letters 'V,B,' and the back has a similar plate with the date '1754.' ' He speculated it came into the Diller family from either Elizabeth Behme, wife of Francis Diller (1743-1814) or through the family of Elizabeth Bowman, wife of Francis Diller (1776-1845). I've noticed a few posts that reference a "Anna? Fronica Froeny Verina." Married a Jacob Bowman in Md or Pa about 1746. " I show he died in 1803. in Rockingham Co. Va." The Jacob I'm focusing on died im 1820 and is buried in Cumberland County, Pa. Could the Virginia Jacob be the father of Elizabeth ? David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/808.1895.2 Message Board Post: Gail I'm just getting back in after a few years free of brick walls. Hope this is still a good email address. Here's what I have on Elizabeth Diller - Ahnentafel of Elizabeth Diller --- 1st Generation --- 1. Elizabeth Diller Birth* __ ___ 1828 Pa. Marriage* __ ___ 1851 Henry Roose; Ohio. --- 2nd Generation --- 2. Peter Diller Birth* __ ___ 1792 West Pennsboro, Pa. Marriage* c __ ___ 1812 (--?--) Burkhart Marriage* __ ___ 1827 Barbara Lehman Death* __ ___ 1860 Ohio. 3. Barbara Lehman Marriage* __ ___ 1827 Peter Diller --- 3rd Generation --- 4. Abraham Dieller Birth* c __ ___ 1755 Pa. Marriage* c __ ___ 1780 Susan Guth Death* __ May 1839 West Pennsboro Township, Pa. Burial* a __ Jun 1839 Newville, Pa. 5. Susan Guth Birth* c __ ___ 1755 Marriage* c __ ___ 1780 Abraham Dieller Death* b __ ___ 1807 Burial* c __ ___ 1807 Newville, Pa. --- 4th Generation --- 8. Frantz Tueller Birth* c __ ___ 1710 Marriage* c __ ___ 1740 Anna (--?--) Death* c __ ___ 1783 Brecknock Township, Pa. 9. Anna (--?--) Birth* c __ ___ 1713 Marriage* c __ ___ 1740 Frantz Tueller Death* c __ ___ 1810 Pa. 10. Peter Guth Birth* c __ ___ 1730 Marriage* b __ ___ 1754 Christine (--?--) Death* __ ___ 1807 Pa. 11. Christine (--?--) Marriage* b __ ___ 1754 Peter Guth Death* a __ ___ 1810 David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Myron The post that you responded to cited Jacob's will and probate not his birth. It is very plainly for the Jacob buried in the Diller Church Graveyard. The only Jacob I can make any statement about with certainty is Jacob Bowman the father of Elizabeth who married Francis Diller on 25 May 1800. This Jacob Bowman also bought his "son-in-law Francis Diller" a farm in 1803 in Cumberland County. [Heck of a wedding present !] Now I'll admit just because he bought a farm in Cumberland County doesn't mean he lived there. And if you received information from Noel Trout I need to get in touch with him ; he also descends from the Dillers. David, ps. the only reason I added the "Bauman" is because I've seen other families go through that name evolution. In the mss Silas and Robert consistantly call Jacob "Bowman."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The first thing I see is that the Jacob you give was born after my Christian Bowman, b. 1794 , my grgrgrgrandfather. Second, you are switching families, from Johannes Bauman to Wendel Bowman family. There was a Jacob Bowman, son of Christian Bowman and Elizabeth Oberholtzer that moved from Berks Co. to Cumberland Co probably in the 1770's and had Christian Bowman, Samuel , Elizabeth, Magdelena and Abraham. Jacob was married to Mary Fohanzer 10 Jan 1752, and Elixabeth was born 25 july 1777. Jacob was buried in the Diller Mennonite Church Graveyard. I was giving info from Yvonne Bentz and Noel Trout. But, these are descen- dants of Wendel Bowman.

The Sharp family was active in the Big Spring Presbyterian Church for more than a century. The James Sharp family joined the church in 1806. There was also a Rev. Alexander Sharp family during the same period. Samuel Sharp was married 5 March 1844 to Eliza A. McKeehan by Rev. McCachran. See Swope history of the Big Spring Church.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rippey Piper Fletcher Thompson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2915 Message Board Post: I'm trying to firm up the lineage of both parents of Elizabeth Rippey, b. ca. 1801 in Shippensburg, supposedly to John Rippey and Mary Piper. Elizabeth was present in Bedford, PA, by around 1820, and married William Fletcher, son of Jacob and Anna Margaret Fletcher of Bedford by 1825. I've not found a Rippey relative in Bedford during that timeframe, though the Piper's were plentiful. A question: would Elizabeth have come to live with a Piper relative in Bedford, presumably after the death of one or both parents in Shippensburg? I don't have death dates for either John Rippey or Mary Piper Rippey. The only proof of parentage is from the Hugh Rippey article inlcuded in the "Biographical Annals of Franklin Co." On a similar front, Julia Ann Fletcher, sister of William Fletcher of Bedford, married Col. John Piper (b. either 1798 or 1800, Shippensburg, d. 1870 in Gaysport, Blair Co.) in 1819 in Bedford. This John Piper is believed to be the son of William and Sarah Thompson Piper of Shippensburg (later in Bedford?). Was the Mary Piper, wife of John Rippey, tied to this William Piper? Was Elizabeth Rippey a cousin in some way to the John Piper who married her sister-in-law in Bedford? Calling all Rippey and Piper experts! David Fletcher Richmond, VA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bowman / Bauman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: This message system jumbles up what you write. Sources of Bowman/Bauman are the book by Clarence E. Spohn, from the Historical Society of the Cocalico Valley in Ephrata, PA titled "Bowman/ Bauman Family ow Cocalico Township, Lancaster Co., P. A. - Millers, Tavernkeepers, Papermakers and Printers" and a book published in 1957 by Laura K. Heinhold, titled " Genealogy of John Bowman of the Seventh Day German Baptists of Ephrata, Pa." On the Church of the Brethren website, there is a list of the Cloister Members at the Ephrata site, and other information. It doesn't do any good to offer editing of the message, when the system just jumbles it up!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi !! I have a large file on the descendants of Johannes Bauman and Margaretha Guth. I have been trying to tie their son Christian, b. 1734. He is supposed to have married Nancy Ann Huber [Spohn] "Bowman/Bauman Family of Cocalico Township, Lancaster Co.,P A, Millers, Tavernkeepers,Paper- makers and Printers" , but I have not found a record of it. The book by author [Heinhold] "Genealogy of the Ephrata Bowmans" also states this. His will, gives the names of all of his siblings or surviving spouses and children, but makes no mention of children of his own. He was said to be a stone cutter and millstone -maker. Heinhold errs in attatching the children of my grgrgrgrandfather Christian Bowman, b. 1794 to Christian Bauman,b. 1734. Christian Bowman, b. 1794 was married to Mary Mohler and their children were: John Bowman, m. Catherine Longenecker; Anna Bowman, m. Daniel Balsbaugh; Mary Bowman, m. John Longenecker; Christian Bowman, m. Elizabeth Brightbill and Samuel Bowman, m. Susan Koons. I have not found the connection. I made a list of the Bowman I found in the census of the years 1795-1850 and 10 of them were related to Christian, b. 1794; 28 of them were related to Johannes Bauman and 4 of them were related to Wendel Bowman. Of course they could all be related in some way. Myron Dunning

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BOWMAN, WOLF, NICHOLS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2037.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Christian Bowman in E. Pennsboro Twp (son of Johannes Baumann of Eprata Cloister) is a brother to Samuel - my line. Can you tell me what information you might have on Johannes Baumann and Christian Bowman? Do you know if any source material is available? Thanks Janice

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WEGERLE, WEGERLY, WAGERLY, SCHLAGER, SLAGER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/568.1783 Message Board Post: Hello- I'm interested in locating descendants & ancestors of an Adam Wegerly who m. a Ross Co. OH Schlager/Slager woman in the early 1800's. Their families were both from Germany - Schwabish. I understand, from family lore, that they moved from Ross Co. OH to the Warren/Fayette Co. IN area & had 3 dau's & 1 son (Franklin). A cousin here in Ross Co. & I would like to put together a Family Reunion in 2003 w/as many Schlager/Slager descendants as possible. Any help you can offer, will be greatly appreciated. djstevenson Ross Co. OH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2914 Message Board Post: I am seeking info on Samuel Wilson Sharp, born March 27, 1822, died December 6, 1877. He was married to Eliza McKeehan and finally to Eliza C. Espy. He was born in Newville. I would be grateful for any help orguidance so I may learn more about this person. Thank you, Jane Singer

Hi, In seeking for my Philadelphia/Dauphin AYRES on the Ellis Island website, I ran across *this* AYRES that is not mine, but belongs, doubtless, to someone on the Cumberland County mailing list: Arthur Ayres b June 24, 1895 Mechanicsburg, Pa. lived in 1923 at 3927 Chancellor St., Phila., Pa. He traveled from Cherbourg, France to NY port, arriving Oct 15, 1923. Again, The Leviathan, this time November 3, 1923, Cherbourg France, with this data: Ayres Arthur 30 M S Born Jan. 24, 1893, Mechanicsburg, Pa. Living at: 23rd & Westmoreland Street, Philadelphia, Pa. The other entry for October was Xed out! Vince

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2913 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on my gggrandmother, Minnie Jacobs, born 1874 in Mechanicsburg. She was the daughter of Abraham and Lovina Jacobs. She married Theodore Breedy, of Readin, PA. Does anyone have any information?

Does anyone know anything about these CLARKs buried in lot 3.2 in Spring Hill Cemetery in Shippensburg? I think that James & Isabella CLARK could POSSIBLY be my Jane CLARK HOCH's parents?????? James CLARK 1763-1850 Isabella w/o James 1765-1831 William Clark 1800-1880 Joseph Clark 1846-1847 John H. Clark 1882-1883 Henry Clay Clark 1852-1853 Emma Clark 1860-1861 Emily J. w/o William 1816-1892 David A. Clark 1844-1883 Annie C. Allen w/o David A. 1839-1923 Albert Nevin Clark 1857-1861 Does anyone know how they connect? Or the names of all James & Isabella's kids?? Any and all help is greatly appreciated! I have been looking them up in the census and will gladly share whatever I find! They lived in Southampton Twp. Thanks! Sharon Frank in Fl

Needing help with ancestors of J. Christian Waggoner, 1857-1940, married Mary Elizabeth Walters, 1858-1929, residents of Silver Spring Township. Mary was a daughter of Simon H. Walters. Christian's father was Joseph Waggoner, 1796-1876. I've been unable to locate Joseph in the census and do not know who he married. He was supposedly a son of Jacob and Susanna (Wharton) Waggoner. Would like to hear from amyone who has connectins with the Waggoner or Walters families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dorie dsl@yourinter.net

Hello Fellow Listers: Searching for further info on the following: John F. HOOVER (b.1885, Illinois) married ca.1919 in Ohio to Estella M. RAILING (b.1899, Pennsylvania d/o Samuel and Henrietta Alta "Effie A." "Alta E." HART RAILING) child: John Eugene (b.Jan-1920, Ohio) [notes: John and Estella were residing in Van Buran, Putnam Co., Ohio in 1920. John F.'s father was to be born in Pennsylvania and his mother born in Illinois. Thanks in advance for any help or information!!! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

Hello Fellow Listers: Searching for relatives of, deathdates and burial places for the following KENDALLs/KINDELLs: Andrew KINDELL (b.Dec-1848, Perry Co., Pennsylvania) married _____ (d.pre 1920) children: Maude (b.Oct-1875, Ohio) Anna S. (b.Feb-1878, Ohio) Hannah (b.Nov-1880, Ohio) Grace I. (b.Jul-1882, Ohio) [notes: Andrew was living in Bellefontaine, Lake Twp., Logan Co., Ohio in 1900. He worked as an Engineer in a Mill. He owned his own home - mortgage free. Andrew was the son of David & Lydia GUTSHALL KINDELL/KENDALL who in 1880 were living in Richland Twp., WYANDOT Co., Ohio.] Jacob KINDELL (b.Mar-1861, Pennsylvania) married Mary _____ (b.Oct-1866, Ohio) children: William H. (b.Mar-1889, Ohio) Velma C. (b.Oct-1895, Ohio) [notes: Jacob and Mary were living in Jackson Twp., Wyandot Co., Ohio in 1900. They had been married for 14 years. Jacob owned his farm - mortgage free. Jacob was a son of David & Lydia GUTSHALL KINDELL.] George KINDELL (b.Jul-1865, Pennsylvania) married Florence _____ (b.Jul-1872, Ohio) children: Jennie O. (b.Oct-1891, Pennsylvania) Fremont W. (b.Oct-1893, Pennsylvania) David H. (b.Oct-1895, Pennsylvania) Dona E. (b.Oct-1897, Pennsylvania) Amanda M. (b.Mar-1900, Pennsylvania) [notes: George and his family were living in Dudley Twp., Hardin Co., Ohio in 1900. He was listed as a Farm Laborer. He and Florence were married for 8 years. George was the son of David & Lydia GUTSHALL KINDELL.] William KINDELL (b.Sep-1872, Pennsylvania) married in/about 1898 to Mary _____ (b.May-1880, Ohio) [notes: William and Mary had no children in 1900. They were residing in McDonald South Precinct, Hardin Co., Ohio in 1900.] Thanks in advance for any help or information!!!!! Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.