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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2923 Message Board Post: I am trying to verify that a 1785 will for Hugh Porter exists in Cumberland County, PA. It was dated 22 March 1785 & proved 21 April 1785 (Will Book E). If anyone has this info, would you share it or can someone do a "look-up?" Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Seeking information on Mary Bealor (1830-1906) wife of Jacob Koons (1824-1918). Mary's death certificate states that she was born in Markelville, Perry County, daughter of John Bealor and Catherine Smith. Thanks, Ame

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2922 Message Board Post: Richard Franklin Henry, d/o/b 1935 or 1936. Attending Shippingsburg High School in 1952 and moved to Orlando, Florida and graduated from Boone High School in 1954. Contact lost since graduation. Trying to locate him for our Fiftieth Class Reunion in Orlando.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/85.2049.1.1 Message Board Post: Kim, I do have some info showing a Peter & Gertraut Barndt are the possible parents. We do not have proof however. I am not at my home right now and will return on 30 Oct. At that time, if you send me your mailing address I will copy what I have and send it to you. Susan

PA Arch Series II, Vol II, page 534 Surgeon?Dr. _____ Jamison, killed by the Indians near McCord's Fort, April 1756 Page 540 MEN OF CAPTAIN JAMESON'S COMPANY KILLED OR WOUNDED NEAR McCORD'S FORT (in Franklin County, a few miles NW of Loudon, Pa) APRIL 2, 1756 Barnett, John Blair, James, killed Campbell, James Chambers, William, killed Gutton, Matthew Hunter, William James, Henry McDonald, John Mackey, Daniel, killed Pierce, James, killed Reynolds, John, killed Reynolds, William Robertson, James (tailor), killed Robertson, James (weaver), killed -- joe

FYI: McCord's Fort located 2.5 miles NE of Edenville, along road leading S from PA 4008 at intersection of former LRs 28039 and 28055, Hamilton Twp., Franklin Co. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Leeper, Warren Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2903.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Leeper Family I am resaerching is as follows: 1) James Leeper, born Lancaster County 1800, moved to Cumberland County 1812. Married Elizabeth Fort ca. 1818. James and Elizabeth died in Mapelton, Huntindon County in ca. 1850's. Known children: Daniel (of whom later), David, James, Robert, and Mary. ?son John, married to Lydia. 2) Daniel Leeper, born 24 Jul 1819 in Dickinson, Cumberland County. Married 21 Mar 1844 to Nancy Warren of Menallen, Adams County. Danieland Nancy resided in Pine Grove Furnace, Cumberland County, where Daniel was in charge of the charcoal making process. Daniel, a Civil War Veteran, died 11 Dec 1899, and is buried in Weksville, Adams County. Nancy died 03 Feb 1905, and is buried next to Daniel. Known Children of Daniel and Nancy Leeper: Jane E.- 11 Oct 1844-16 Oct 1846 Anna Elizabeth- 15 Nov 1846 John- 11 Dec 1848 Mary Catherine- 04 Oct 1851 Amanda Louisa- 24 Jan 1854-1933 Susan M.- 29 Sep 1855-04 May 1907 (Clearfield County) married John M. Hewitt Daniel, Jr.- 30 May 1859-1938, married Hannah M. Sarah "Sallie"- 06 Sep 1861 David- 04 Nov 1865 George "US Grant"- 27 Oct 1868-26 Mar 1899 Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated

Cumberland Listers, Thanks to all who responded to my questions; what quick and helpful answers! In response to Donna: I am researching Jacob Edelblute (listed in 1790 US Federal Census, PA, Cumberland Co., Hopewell, Newton, Tyborn, and Westpensboro Townships census as "Jacob Edlebloot"). I show b. ~ 1746, but ancestry.com AGBI states b. 175? in PA. I am wondering if there is a way to tell in which Twp. he lived from the location on the census rolls (i.e., Roll M637_8, p. 84, image 0553). My ultimate goal (right now) is to find out who was his wife. Are there marriage records that go back that far? As a side note, the 1790 census shows 3 males over age 16, 6 males under age 16, and 1 female for Jacob's household! Whoever his wife was, she had her hands full with house full of boys. ;-) Trevor > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Donna Heller Zinn [mailto:djzinn@pa.net] >Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:35 AM >To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] 1790 US Census - PA > > >Hi Tevor and Fellow Listers: > >I don't have the 1790 Census form in front of me - so I can't say for >sure what you wrote is correct or not but feel sure you are. Maybe >someone else does and can answer. > >I feel pretty certain that your Tyborn Twp. is actually Tyrone Twp., now >Perry County. > >What names are you searching for???? > >Best Wishes... >Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. > >Trevor Edelblute wrote: > >>I just found a relative in the 1790 US Federal Census in Cumberland Co. >>PA. I'm new to this and am hoping that someone can tell me what the >>columns immediately following the individual's name represent. Is it >>household information i.e., free white males over 16, free white males >>under 16, and free white females? Also, does anyone know where Tyborn >>Twp. is/was? >> >>Trevor >> >

Right you are Joe, I sure it was done frequently, and it was done for all the age break points, not just the 16 year mark. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe patterson" <jpatter@comcast.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] What age to take the Oath?.....

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ERWINS, GRIMS, POWERS, DUCHS, BENTON, WARTONS, LUKINS, TENNISON, MASE, EDMINSON, EBERMAN, CASPER, SHWIGERT, BRINKHARTE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2921 Message Board Post: >From film 0984941 A-L PA Land Warrant Applications I picked up the E's and these are they: ERWINS, Edward from Shermans VALLEY and one of his majesties Justices of the Peace, on the 6 March gave a deposition in behalf of Nathaniel GRIMS below: GRIMS, Nathaniel (deposition): That on Nathaniel GRIMS improved upon a piece of land in Shearmans Valley in Rye Twp by William POWERS land about _ years ago and the deponent thinks to the best of his knowledge to be in November 1769 that he has since that time purchased said tract of land of GRIMS. Witness my hand this 6th day of March 1773 for 100 acres: *to the side is the name signed John DUCHS. EDWARD, Edward on 2 April, for 50 acres on north side of Juniata on waters of Dellanay Run and on a west branch joining BENTON and WARTONS land on the east and Edward EDWARDS land on the west. Let the records be searched to see if there is no entry made by John TENNISON, John LUKINS ofor Abrim LUKINS. ERWIN, James on 28 September for 50 acres adjoining his other land and Andrew MASE and John EDMINSON in Peters Twp. EBERMAN, Johan on 30 November for 25 acres adjoining Johan CASPER and Friderick SHWIGERT, Gillis BRINKHARTE in Phoutes Valley in Greenwood Township.

Bill, great reference..... Have seen on another list a caution on ages of children. Ages are not always what they seem. And it has to do with cost of passage. Age 4 and/or under were free, 4?-12 were half fare and full fare over 12.... So some who might have been 16 and able to pass for 12, might be listed that way to save a few £. -- joe

The township was probably TOBOYNE or TYRONE. The 1790 columns from left to right are; 1. All white males 16 or over, including head of household 2. All white males under 16 3. All females, including head of household 4. Others 5. Slaves

Could be either Toboyne or Tyrone twps. both existed in 1790. Right next to each other Toboyne north of Mifflin Twp and Tyrone north of Frankford. > > I feel pretty certain that your Tyborn Twp. is actually Tyrone Twp., now > Perry County. > -- joe

I've looked every where...I have a question. Harry P. Thumma b. 1879? was the son of John Henry and Susan (Wolf) Thumma. I can't find them in the 1880 census. Would his birth be documented anywhere? thanks...Susan

Hi Lister: Free spreadsheet software for producing blank census forms for each census year are available for downloading at http://www.censustools.com/ I have no connection of any kind with that website but I have downloaded the software with no problem. Ed Ruehrwein e.ruehrwein@att.net -----Original Message----- From: Donna Heller Zinn [mailto:djzinn@pa.net] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:35 AM To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] 1790 US Census - PA Hi Tevor and Fellow Listers: I don't have the 1790 Census form in front of me - so I can't say for sure what you wrote is correct or not but feel sure you are. Maybe someone else does and can answer. I feel pretty certain that your Tyborn Twp. is actually Tyrone Twp., now Perry County. What names are you searching for???? Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. Trevor Edelblute wrote: > > I just found a relative in the 1790 US Federal Census in Cumberland Co. > PA. I'm new to this and am hoping that someone can tell me what the > columns immediately following the individual's name represent. Is it > household information i.e., free white males over 16, free white males > under 16, and free white females? Also, does anyone know where Tyborn > Twp. is/was? > > Trevor ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== A quick link to the complete list of PA USGenWeb County sites. http://www.pagenweb.org/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Tevor and Fellow Listers: I don't have the 1790 Census form in front of me - so I can't say for sure what you wrote is correct or not but feel sure you are. Maybe someone else does and can answer. I feel pretty certain that your Tyborn Twp. is actually Tyrone Twp., now Perry County. What names are you searching for???? Best Wishes... Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. Trevor Edelblute wrote: > > I just found a relative in the 1790 US Federal Census in Cumberland Co. > PA. I'm new to this and am hoping that someone can tell me what the > columns immediately following the individual's name represent. Is it > household information i.e., free white males over 16, free white males > under 16, and free white females? Also, does anyone know where Tyborn > Twp. is/was? > > Trevor

Hal, The following is from an ad for Henry Egle's book on the subject. "Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance to the Province and State of Pennsylvania, 1727-1775" see www.genealogical.com It says the age was 16.: In 1727, the Pennsylvania Provincial Council passed a law requiring all "foreign" immigrants (i.e. those of non-British origin) to swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown. Lists of these immigrants were originally assembled for publication in the Pennsylvania Archives (Ser. 2, Vol. XVII), and they are reprinted here without change. This work, then, is an exhaustive list of "foreigners"-mostly Germans-who immigrated into the Province and, later, the State of Pennsylvania between the years 1727 and 1775 and again during the years 1786-1808. More to the point, it is a collection of ships' passenger lists, in many cases the lists being transcribed in entirety, with Captains' lists of passengers running up to the relatively late year of 1808. Along with the full name of the immigrant, including the names of all males over the age of sixteen, since that was the age they were obliged to take the oath, such information is given as name of ship, date of arrival, port of origin, and, in some instances, ages, names of wives, and names of children. An exhaustive index of surnames, running to more than 100 pages, contains about 35,000 references. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Laube" <zzurlauben@mindspring.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] What age to take the Oath? > All male new comers to King George II's American Colonies who were older than some specified age were obliged to take an oath and declare allegiance to the crown. What was the age? 16? 21?? If you have a reference I would appreciate it - but don't let that stop you...

All male new comers to King George II's American Colonies who were older than some specified age were obliged to take an oath and declare allegiance to the crown. What was the age? 16? 21?? If you have a reference I would appreciate it - but don't let that stop you... Best regards Hal