This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/864.407.372.379.1.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather was David O. Vanderbilt. He was born Aug.17, 1839 , in Johnson Co. Illinois. He died Nov. 10, 1909 in St. Louis, Mo. He married Mary Jane Peck in l869. I don't know if this is the same David Vanderbilt that was in TN.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vanderbilt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/864.408 Message Board Post: I am searching for anything about my ggrandfather, Cornelius Vanderbilt, b 1798 in CumCo.Pa.,married Jane Wilkins March 31, 1819. I would appreciate any information.

I'm responding to the information posted by Vincent Summers in hopes of learning more about the Ayres family. My ancestor Samuel Chew married Anne Ayres in Maryland. Her parents are William Ayres b. abt 1610 in Va. and Sarah Marsh. Anyone researching this family and wishing to exchange data please contact me. Gene gwgenie@alltel.net ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vincent wrote: In seeking for my Philadelphia/Dauphin AYRES on the Ellis Island website, I ran across *this* AYRES that is not mine, but belongs, doubtless, to someone on the Cumberland County mailing list: Arthur Ayres b June 24, 1895 Mechanicsburg, Pa. lived in 1923 at 3927 Chancellor St., Phila., Pa. He traveled from Cherbourg, France to NY port, arriving Oct 15, 1923. Again, The Leviathan, this time November 3, 1923, Cherbourg France, with this data: Ayres Arthur 30 M S Born Jan. 24, 1893, Mechanicsburg, Pa. Living at: 23rd & Westmoreland Street, Philadelphia, Pa. The other entry for October was Xed out! Vince

There is more speculation in this than some family researchers will accept - most of this has been given me by contemporary seekers. I have tried to put what we know together in a story form. You might look upon this as a first draft of a theory. A theory allows one to speculate as to what one might find and it highlights shortcomings and suggests what new data is needed. In this format it is not possible to display aal of the references and sources. But I have promised to send anyone interested the Egolf seaction of our family history Engstadt to Philladelphia up to about the War for Independence. That will be a PDF attachment and will provide sources so as to differentiate between fact and theory/speculation/fiction. Michael EGOLFF arrived in Philadelphia a day or so before September 27, 1746. He was a cooper and he lived and made barrels at premises on Front Street in the District of Southwart. His wife Mary (Elizabeth?) VOESTCH died soon after his daughter Anna Elizabeth EGOLFF was born October 15, 1747. The recently bereaved widower was in desparate need of a mother for his children, and he married Catharine BENDER, a widow, at St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, November 24, 1747. Michael was 54 years and hale and hearty. But most unfortunately his second wife, Catharine, died and soon thereafter on October 14, 1751, he married Elizabeth VOLMER, also at St. Michael's Zion Lutheran. There is a German script record that may be of this marriage. The visible facts and the best translation available do not quite fit these facts, but there is enough congruence to make it likely. If other family seekers did not object to strongly I would be inclined to assign this most interesting Fracktur to this marriage. Elizabeth VOLMER may have been born, 1714, in Delleinburg, Nassau, Hesse. In the meantime his son, Michael Egolf, married Elizabeth HAUSER, March 28, 1749. Father and son continued in the noble and honorable profession of barrel making until the old man died probably in October 1765. Barrel making is not an equity intensive business but none of his heirs wanted to buy out the others and so they asked the court to sell the Front street premises, in the district of Southwark. (Is there an online drawing/map showing Front Street about 1750?) The younger Michael also had a son, Michael, and several other children before he relocated to Carlisle soon after our War for Independence was concluded. This scenario cannot be proven but it best fits the benchmark facts: three marriages of men named Michael Egolf are recorded in the records of St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia. They are very real and so are the church and oath records. Also Pennsylvania German pioneers Vol 1 1727-1775 p 360 List 110 B [the oath of allegiance] "Foreigners Imported Ship Ann Galley William Wilson, Captain from Rotterdam Qualified Sept 27, 1746" Michael Egolff ( ) Johannes Egolff ( ) Michael Egolff jr ( ) and for List C [the abjuration oaths] Michael Egolff ( ) Johanes Egolffe ( ) Michael Egolff jr ( ) The ( ) are noted to mean that the men were on the ship's list - the A list - but they did not sign the B or C list. In other words they were absent from the ceremony on the steps of City Hall and did not make these oaths. This source is generally accepted as the most accurate of the several references of ships lists. There is no hint that we have seen as to the identity of Johanes/Johnnes. Why he is listed between the father and the son is not clear. He might be a brother of the older Michael, but I am going to assume he is another son of the older Michael. If he is son, Johannes/John, born August 11, 1732, he is not yet 16 and would not have been expected to sign. There is a family tale that son Michael was ready to sign until it was discovered that he was too young - but that tale doesn't fit the other known facts (John may have also had the name Michael). Son Balthaser, born May 8, 1729, was over 16, and he might have also had the name Johannes.) If! there is more known about these sons of the older Michael it might help fill out this detail - regards Hal

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/575.576.641.698.106.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Chery, Were you able to get any additional info on Gearge or Jacob Boyer and the Palmer and Swartz families in Cumberland County Pa.? Thanks Tom Withers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Houser, Carey, Culver Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/268.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Tammy: I have a record that John Houser married Catharine Carey on November 23, 1814 in Cumberland County. Reverend Henry R. Wilson performed the ceremony. Joseph Culver was a witness. Joseph (born May 26, 1791) was married to Elizabeth Carey who I believe was a sister to Catharine. Does this John Houser appear in your family tree and if so, do you know anything about the Catharine Carey who he married? I am trying to document the Careys and the Culvers.

Does anyone have an index or copy of the Orphans Court Records of Cumberland Cnty, PA? I would appreciate it if someone could check an index or record for the minor children of Jeremiah WOOLF wife Elizabeth. Or possible the court records to see what happened to Elizabeth the wife of Jeremiah. Children are: John Jacob, Mary, Elizabeth and Catherine. Derald Morgan

Susan, If you go to this index map and click on Southampton Township, you can see it in more detail. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/pa/county/cumber/usgs/ Ed McClelland, Alexandria, Virginia.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: NAYLOR, ALBERTS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/442.1376.1421.1428.1421.1 Message Board Post: email me at leversmeyer@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: weigel, hinkle, rife, schroll, gepford, reed, fletcher, knutson (Juve) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/268.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Tina My family was from E Pennsboro twp., PA also. Did your Rife's move to Illinois? Specifically to Hickory Point twp., Macon County. The Joseph that I have was married to an Elizabeth. Both were born in PA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rife/Harwick/Sierer/Crossley/Mumma Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/268.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I was wondering if you would happen to be related to the Rife's that resided in E. Pennsboro Twp., Cumberland Co., PA The farthest back Rife I have is Joseph Rife b. abt1806 married to a Mary. If you happen to have these people in your tree and have info on them I would like to correspond with you on this family

Shippensburg is in Southampton Twp., right against the Franklin Co. border which also has a Southampton Twp. M. Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: <s1ingram@aol.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: [PACUMBER] Southampton Twp. / where is that? > I have looked for 10 long years for John Henry Thumma....someone sent me this > today...this is my gg grandparents, my g grandfather and his brother...God > bless those who help others....Can anyone tell me where Southampton Twp > is....I live in Mechanicsburg so I would like to drive there today....I have > a feeling it is toward Carlisle, but can anyone give me a name of a town that > is in Southampton Twp so I have an idea where I am going....thanks...Susan > > Census Place: Southampton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania > Source: FHL Film 1255122 National Archives Film T9-1122 Page 456A > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Henry THUMY Self M M W 35 PA > Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA > Susan THUMY Wife F M W 30 PA > Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA > George THUMY Son M S W 3 PA > Fa: PA Mo: PA > Peter THUMY Son M S W 10M PA > Fa: PA Mo: PA > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have looked for 10 long years for John Henry Thumma....someone sent me this today...this is my gg grandparents, my g grandfather and his brother...God bless those who help others....Can anyone tell me where Southampton Twp is....I live in Mechanicsburg so I would like to drive there today....I have a feeling it is toward Carlisle, but can anyone give me a name of a town that is in Southampton Twp so I have an idea where I am going....thanks...Susan Census Place: Southampton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255122 National Archives Film T9-1122 Page 456A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry THUMY Self M M W 35 PA Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Susan THUMY Wife F M W 30 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA George THUMY Son M S W 3 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Peter THUMY Son M S W 10M PA Fa: PA Mo: PA

Census Place: Southampton, Cumberland, Pennsylvania Source: FHL Film 1255122 National Archives Film T9-1122 Page 456A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry THUMY Self M M W 35 PA Occ: Laborer Fa: PA Mo: PA Susan THUMY Wife F M W 30 PA Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA George THUMY Son M S W 3 PA Fa: PA Mo: PA Peter THUMY Son M S W 10M PA Fa: PA Mo: PA

Dear Friends: I have located Jeremiah Woolf's will in Cumberland Cnty, PA dated 1786 in which he names wife Elizabeth, sons John and Jacob and daughters Mary, Elizabeth and Catherine. This will is from Middleton Twp. Can anyone give me additional information on this family. Apparently some of the children were minors. Does anyone have the civil court records where the children may have had a guardian appointed or a marriage index where Jeremiah's wife or children may have married between 1786 and 1800. Thank you, Derald

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hamlin, ELway, Willis, Ellis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2927 Message Board Post: Searching for info on: ELWAY, Elizabeth Born Jenner PA, 1844 Died Altoona PA, 1922 Daughter of Sarah Prosser and James Elway Married James S. Hamlin Did Elizabeth have any children ?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SPOTTSWOOD, HARKNESS, CREVER, MAGLAUGHLIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2926 Message Board Post: Searching: SPOTTSWOOD, Annie C. ( CREVER ) ??? Born: 1839 Cumberland CO.??? PA Died 1913 Altoona, PA Married: HARKNESS William

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: NIEL, NEIPER, PATTON, McGIGHEN?, SMITH, SWAB, JACK, FOREMAN, SLEY, BLYTH, PALE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2925 Message Board Post: Film # 0984942 PA LAND WARRANT APPLICATIONS for 1773 N-Z but picked up the N's and S surnames: NIEL, Adam 3 August for 40 acres on the Big Spring road adjoining Charles NEIPER, John PATTON, John McGIGHEN? and said NIEL __ in West Pennsborough Twp. SMITH, William of York County on 8 Janunary for 30 acres since 1765 in Letterkenny. SWAB, Peter on 16 Feb for 40 acres adjoining James JACK, Fredrick FOREMAN in Antrim. SLEY, Daniel of Cumberland Co. on 3 March for 50 acres adjoining Benjamin BLYTH and James PALE in Logen Twp. happy hunting...CAT

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/85.2049.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Susan, Thank you. My address is: 14041 148th AVE SE Yelm, WA 98597 Kim

Ege, T.P. 1911 History and Genealogy of the Ege Family. Harrisburg, PA: n.p. is a source you may wish to find... on the 1858 Atlas there are 3 properties in Boiling Springs belonging to a P F Ege. [Believe this is probably son of the junior Michael, PETER.] Michael Ege who married Dorothea Wolff was the founder of the furnace at Boiling Springs. Carried on by his son, Michael. One TP Ege became Episcopal Rector at Oak, Montgomery Co, PA [son of Oliver] Best source of non official records is the Cumberland County Historical Society. Deeds, wills etc are at the court house. Unincorporated means the town was considered that but was part of the township, ie South Middleton, which is the municipal government for Boiling Springs. There is not a separate Mayor and council nor administrative element. -- joe