This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alexander Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2021.2507 Message Board Post: Researching an Alexander family which may have migrated from Cumberland County to Virginia after the Revolution sometime. An Alexander daughter married a Benjamin Glover in 1815. (They also had a son named Benjamin). They were supposed to have been first cousins, so Christian names may duplicate. One grandson was named Blair. JDG jd-glover@attbi.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alexander Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/354.550.1 Message Board Post: Researching an Alexander family which may have migrated from Cumberland County to Virginia after the Revolution sometime. An Alexander daughter married a Benjamin Glover in 1815. (They also had a son named Benjamin). They were supposed to have been first cousins, so Christian names may duplicate. JDG jd-glover@attbi.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alexander Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/900.2 Message Board Post: Researching an Alexander family which may have migrated from Cumberland County to Virginia after the Revolution sometime. An Alexander daughter married a Benjamin Glover in 1815. (They also had a son named Benjamin). They were supposed to have been first cousins, so Christian names may duplicate. JDG jd-glover@attbi.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alexander Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/354.1301.1 Message Board Post: Researching an Alexander family which may have migrated from Cumberland County to Virginia after the Revolution sometime. An Alexander daughter married a Benjamin Glover in 1815. (They also had a son named Benjamin). They were supposed to have been first cousins, so Christian names may duplicate. JDG jd-glover@attbi.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Glover Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/783.2057.1 Message Board Post: If you find any Glovers that migrated after the Revolution from PA, esp. Cumberland County, to VA, esp. Shenandoah Valley, let me know. Thanks, JDG jd-glover@attbi.com

Hello everyone, Is anyone out there researching the BOSH name? I just today found out my George RINEHART's wife's maiden name! (from one of the sons death cert) Her name is Elizabeth BOSH.......................................In the index to the First Evengelical Lutheran Church in Carlisle there is the name BOSH listed...................................does anyone have that book who could look and see what record there might be on this surname? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!!! Thanks so much! Sharon Frank in Fl.

Russell/Mrs.Booker: Prayer is GOOD....but it should be sent between individuals and NOT sent out to everyone on the CUMBERLAND CO. PA List........... JRS

Thank you for the prayer........... --- RussellRbrwn83@aol.com wrote: > > > Subject:� FW: GUIDANCE > > > > > > > > G U I D A N C E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >�� When I meditated on the word GUIDANCE, I > kept seeing "dance" at the > > end > > > of the word.� I remember reading that doing > God's will is a lot like > > > dancing. When two people try to lead, nothing > feels right. The movement > > > doesn't flow with the music, and everything is > quite uncomfortable and > > > jerky. > > > > > > > >�� When one person realizes and lets the other > lead, both bodies begin > > > >�� to flow with the music.� One gives gentle > cues, perhaps with a nudge > > > >�� to the back or by pressing lightly in one > direction or another. It's > > > >�� as if two become one body, moving > beautifully. The dance takes > > > >�� surrender, willingness, and attentiveness > from one person and gentle > > > guidance and skill from the other. > > > > > > > >�� My eyes drew back to the word GUIDANCE. When > I saw "G! ," I thought > of > > > God, followed by "u" and "i." "God, "u" and "i" > dance." ! God, you, and > I > > > dance. This statement is what guidance means to > me. > > > > > > > >�� As I lowered my head, I became willing to > trust that I would get > > > >�� guidance about my life. Once again, I became > willing to let God > lead. > > > > > > > >�� My prayer for you today is that God's > blessings and mercies be upon > > you > > > and your family on this day and everyday. May > you abide in Him as He > > abides > > > in you. Dance together with God, trusting Him to > lead and to guide you > > > through each season of your life. > > > > > > > >�� This prayer is powerful and there is nothing > attached. If God has > > > >�� done anything for you in your life, please > share this message with > > > >�� someone else, for prayer is one of the best > gifts we can receive. > > > >�� There is no cost! but a lot of rewards; so > lets continue to pray for > > > >�� one another. > > > > > > > >�� God, I ask you to bless my friends, > relatives and e-mail buddies > > > >�� reading this right now. Show� them a new > revelation of your love and > > > power of the Holy Spirit! I ask You to minister > to their spirit at > > > >�� this very moment. Where there is self-doubt, > release a renewed > > > >�� confidence through Your grace. > > > > > > > >�� In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen > > > > > > > >�� PS: from me --------I Hope You Dance > !!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the > latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Laube" <zzurlauben@mindspring.com> To: <seecarl@ntcnet.com>; <wrightd1@csinet.net>; "EGOLF" <EGOLF-D@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Kenneth & June Egolf" <egolf@dickinson.edu> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Sarah Jane Egolff > Dan - very good to hear from you. we have > Henry Shawley Born: May 12, 1831 in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Died: January 5, > 1899 in Williams County, Ohio. Burial: Bryan Methodist Epsicopal Church > Cemetery. Married Annie E. unknown > > There is good reason to believe this is the Henry Sholly in the 1850 > Cumberland County, Pennsylvania census, page 328 and that his father is > Simon Shally on page 364 of that 1850 census. Henry, of Crestline, Ohio, is > listed in an 1871 deed as an heir to his father's Franklin County, Ohio > land. You probably have > Genealogical and Biographical Annals of Northumberland County, 1911. Egolff > Family, page 148 ff. Carl C. McCallus and Ken and June Egolff put me on to > that years ago. It is also on line - if you don't have it I will be glad to > send it to you. > > The Shally/Sholly/Shawley family (Simon and Sally and two daughters, > Rebecca E., Anna Maria and Annie Elizabeth and probably Henry and other > sons) relocated to Crestline,Ohio, about 1855. The family left > Crestline in 1862, father, mother and married daughters moved to Columbus, > Ohio. Henry remained in Crestline, and the other sons went west - we have > a bit more on each of them. > > My line is from Rebbeca she married Samuel Mater of Cumberland County, > Pennsylvania, September 29, 1859, in Crestline. He signed his name that > way. In 1860 and thereafter in numerous douments including his death > certificate he is Mateer. They are my great-grandparents on my father's > mother's side. > > We have Simon and Sarah in common as some degree of grandparent. They are > my gg - grandparents and your gggg-grandfather. If we were of the same > generation we would be third-cousins, but your are twice removed. Welcome > cousin. You are the closest cousin I know of in this line. > > I live in Chapel Hill, NC. I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Healthy, > Happy and Prosperous New Year. And I thank Carl C for bringing us > together. I am putting the finishing touches on the Ohio Shawley family > and will be glad to send that chapter to you and others - early next year. > Best regards Hal > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <seecarl@ntcnet.com> > To: <wrightd1@csinet.net> > Cc: "Kenneth & June Egolf" <egolf@dickinson.edu>; "Hal Laube" > <zzurlauben@mindspring.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: Sarah Jane Egolff > > > > > "Daniel L. Wright" wrote: > > > > > > Carl, > > > > > > I am looking for information on Sarah Jane Egolff who I think was the > > > daughter of Henry. Do you have any information on her and her husband > > > Simon Shalley/Shawley? I'm pretty sure their son Henry Shalley/Shawley > is > > > my ggggrandfather. I have documented proof of family from Henry Shawley > > > to me, and will be glad to share any information you want. I will > > > appreciate any help you can give me. > > > > > > Dan Wright > > > E-Mail: Dan@Wright.org > > > Web Site: www.Dan.Wright.org > > > > 12-12-02 @ 1610 EST > > > > Dan: > > > > Thank you for the contact and info, which relates to "The Cumberland > County > > Egolfs". > > > > I am copying Ken and June Egolf on this, as Ken is a direct descendant of > > the 1746 immigrant Michael Egolf. > > > > Hal Laube also had a direct interest in SARAH JANE EGOLF and SIMON > > "SHOLLY". Their data is probably up-to-date more than mine, and they can > > better assist you in your quest. Either one or both will probably contact > > you. I would appreciate any information from SARAH and SIMON, on down, to > > fill those blanks and extend the family. > > > > Good Luck in your quest! > > > > Carl C. > > Upstate NY > > >

Up until 1947 (?) there were no "estate" files as such. That is , no one record that accumulated all estate papers in one file. This was changed as a result of a statutory reorganization, but not retroactively. It sound as if you have checked all relevant sources- it may be that the executors administered the will as stated in the document without further Court proceedings. The only thing I can think of is the Register of Wills book in the Courthouse which will give dates for inventories, vendues and accounts if there were any, but will not reference any Orphan's Court proceedings except the account (then you hunt for that date). The Register of Wills should show when an accounting was filed, which might indicate when the legacies were paid. You could also check other places the minor children could have lived- other counties for example- a guardianship could have been in the county of residence. Here is a quick primer for those who haven't gotten as far: In Cumberland County, at present, you will need to consult several sources. (Perry County has combined the files as estates in their wonderful, new computerized system) The place to start is the Register of Wills, large bound ledgers in the office of the Register of Wills. These have a record of whether or not there was a will, the date it was proved and the will number. If there was no will, it will indicate the date Letters of Testamentary or of Administration were issued and to whom. Letters Testamentary ("T") were issued to executors of wills that had been proved. Letters of Administration ("A") were issued to administrators in intestacy- i.e.. no will. The entries are by name of decedent, in date order determined by the proving of the will or issuance of Letters of Administration. The same page will give a date, a number for the estate inventory, vendue list and the date of any accounting. Registering of the Will was sufficient to pass title to the real estate. The personal property was all that appeared on the inventory and vendue list. I think Joe is right that the originals of wills, inventories and vendues are now at the Cumberland County Historical Society. The Registrar's office has a book in which the wills were copied by a clerk. There is often a lot of information in the Orphan's Court Dockets, also in the Register's Office. These are large bound books containing the court clerk's notes of court proceedings. They are in date order and, if I remember correctly, usually have an index in each volume. You need to go through several volumes for the period after the date of death to be sure you have all entries. I have found these a gold mine if there were minor children or even a widow and children from a different marriage. The Orphans Court did various things- appointed guardians for minors ( sometimes from the mother's family which helps identify them), approved the sale and division of estate real property, approved accounts and heard disputes on these matters. I have noticed that there are sometimes margin notes in the original entries to show final payments of sums due children that have reached the age of majority or when the widow died, not later entries at the date the payment occurred. I have also found diagrams of farms showing divisions among heirs. I suggest that you call the Register of Wills and ask what they can tell you over the phone and what you can write for. Same is true of the Register of Deeds. I have usually done this research in person, so I don't know how much they will look up for you. I can't seem to lay my hand on the phone number or address at the moment. Both the Register of Willis and of Deeds are in the Courthouse annex on the square in Carlisle. I think you can find them on the internet or in directory assistance. Good luck, Ame ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Louise" <mloutown@adelphia.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Probate Questions - Cumberland Co. > Dear Listers, > > I'm hoping someone with experience in obtaining wills and estate records > for Cumberland Co. can help me out with an estate/probate question. I > need to find which office of the courthouse can provide me with copies > of an estate. > > I'm looking for the estate records of John Clendinnen. I have a copy of > his will made 18 May 1802 and proved 7 August 1802. > > I'm asking because I have not been able to find the probate records > associated with this will. Do the probates of an estate close out when > the last beneficiary dies? Do they stay open as long as there are minor > children involved? When the minor child turns 21, would there normally > be a record showing the payout of the inheritance? > > The will calls for the surviving family members to live together on the > farm for 7 years after the death of the father. Then it divides the > land between the two older sons, apprentices the youngest son (then > about 11) as a tanner when he turns 16 (apprentice for 7 years) and > gives him money when he turns 21. It also gave money to the daughters > when they reached 18 or 21 or marry whichever comes first. It gives > several items to the wife and says the sons should provide for her until > her death or she remarries. I could not find any estate records (estate > inventory, etc.) or even guardianship info from the PA Orphans Court > which usually shows the disposition of the estate. I saw Orphan Court > microfilm at the Cumberland Historical Society, but the estate of this > person was not in the 1802/1803 sections and I read them through 1811. > The copy I have of the will is from the microfilm at the Cumberland > Historical Society. > > Where do you think I should write to in the court system to find the > estate records? Should I just write to the Clerk of the Court and leave > it to them to sort out? Where can I write to get a copy of the deeds > for the land sold or retitled? > > Thanks for all your help, > Mary Louise Townsend > Potomac Falls, VA 20165 > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GRAHAM & HUTCHI(N)SON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2950 Message Board Post: I am searching in vain for information on William Graham who was born approx. 1694 and died April 24, 1761at Pennsborough Twp., Cumberland Co., PA. He is buried at the Meeting House Graveyard at Carlisle. I cannot seem to distinguish him from James Graham b.1725 son of Jarrett since they all resided in the same area. I am wondering if there is a connection between Jarrett and the above William. Any knowledge on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Rachelle

GOOD STORY.....BUT....WHAT IS IT DOING ON THIS GENEALOGICAL WEBSITE? JRS

--part1_1aa.d52c1a4.2b2636e7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_1aa.d52c1a4.2b2636e7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <dfaudskar@msn.com> Received: from rly-xc04.mx.aol.com (rly-xc04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.137]) by air-xc05.mail.aol.com (v89.21) with ESMTP id MAILINXC54-1209123336; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:33:36 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe99.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.241]) by rly-xc04.mx.aol.com (v89.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXC45-1209123327; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:33:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:33:26 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [65.239.4.144] From: "donald faudskar" <dfaudskar@msn.com> To: "Angie Gangelhoff" <agangelhoff@pinenet.com>, "Arvid@Barbara Faudskar" <Arvidf@gj.net>, "Barbara McKinney" <bmckinne@ivy.tec.in.us>, "Berneice" <bbergseth@yahoo.com>, "Bob & Gale Johnson" <5010.6394@tcon.net>, "Diane Robbins" <PROGNE@webtv.net>, "Dick-Bobbi Johnson" <rjrjj@netusa1.net>, "Flossie Emmons" <flogeo@locallink.net>, "Jim-Carolyn Ransier" <ransier@bellsouth.net>, "Judy-Les austin" <judyannie@netdirect.net>, "Julia Welling" <JBWell81@AOL.COM>, "Linda-Keith Hoover" <milette46988@hotmail.com>, "LuAnn McCoy" <LMccoy9188@aol.com>, "Marie robbins" <lwschmit@isd.net>, "Maryanna Walton" <mwalton12@juno.com>, "Peggy & Bill Rockey" <rocky@cqc.com>, "Phyllis Johnson" <pjohnson0091@juno.com>, "Renee seaton" <Renyszoo@AOL.COM>, "RICK SPEARS" <ricksuej@msn.com>, "Russell Brown" <RussellRbrwn83@aol.com> Subject: Fw: Three Texans (sigh) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:33:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN Mail 8.00.0022.3100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V8.00.0022.3100 Message-ID: <OE99vblaLJPv00J6gX200008ddd@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2002 17:33:26.0651 (UTC) FILETIME=[14C48CB0:01C29FA9] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda" <lucylulu49@webtv.net> To: <barbspad@webtv.net>; <bbwoman@webtv.net>; <bhall@techline.com>; <EIM2749@webtv.net>; <dmurray@olynet.com>; <buzzedlyteyear@webtv.net>; <mt_cowgirl@hotmail.com>; <CashMama@webtv.net>; <freewill19@hotmail.com>; <flea.wa@verizon.net>; <fhl@olynet.com>; <gdtudor@earthlink.net>; <raven126@webtv.net>; <sparkysp@peoplepc.com>; <dkmiller@techline.com>; <rkmorrow@techline.com>; <angyl46@hotmail.com>; <darlinglily@hotmail.com>; <hummrfly@techline.com>; <fatass593@cs.com>; <tideh20@pacifier.com>; <shelynn5@yahoo.com>; <Pammykins917@msn.com>; <misspam@techline.com>; <kney@olynet.com>; <Krikevtay@zzzip.net>; <dfaudskar@msn.com>; <sharkfest20@webtv.net>; <arligrah@msn.com>; <stinclan@webtv.net>; <Toni3ann@msn.com>; <trayc67@msn.com>; <golson@san.rr.com>; <wic9000@webtv.net> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: Three Texans (sigh) > These three Texans go down to Mexico one night, get drunk, and wake up > in > jail only to find out that they are to be executed in the morning, > though > none of them can remember what they did the night before. > > The first one is strapped in the electric chair and is asked if he has > any > last words. He says, "I am from the Baylor school of divinity and I > believe > in the almighty power of God to intervene on behalf of the innocent." > > They throw the switch and nothing happens, so they figure God must not > want this > guy to die and they let him go. > > The second one is strapped in and gives his last words, "I am from the > University of Texas School of Law and I believe in the power of justice > to > intervene on the part of the innocent." > > They throw the switch and again > nothing happens. They figure that the law is on this guy's side, so they > let him go too. > > The last one is strapped in and says, "Well, I'm a Texas Aggie > Electrical > Engineer, and I'll tell you right now you ain't gonna electrocute nobody > if > you don't connect them two wires." > --part1_1aa.d52c1a4.2b2636e7_boundary--

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/1065.1172.3 Message Board Post: The James Wilson in our family was a resident of Cumberland County in the 1790's and beyond. He was a successful man. At first I thought he was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. He was not, but it is easy to confuse the two. Our James Wilson had a large family. He married a second time, to Margaret Kilgore, in 1805 and had another family. Farmer (perhaps lawyer) in Cumberland Co. Will on file.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/1065.1172.2 Message Board Post: Do you have doccumentation? I have been researching JAMES WILSON for over 10 years and have come to the conclusion that James Wilson, the signer of the Declaration of Independence has no heirs.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawler, Lalor, Mendenhall, Bartlett, Sumner, Hatch, Gilman, Trow, Caldwell, Badger, Charles, Ludiker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2949 Message Board Post:  Hi fellow genealogists! I’m a genealogist just like you are. This is kind of long, but well worth reading! I found a way to use FOIA in genealogy to request records that actually results in moving your search along. In my every day professional work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to acquire records from all areas. The FOIA is a tool that is available to everyone. The request is free but it can be very confusing. You have to know where to send it, you have to have the right request form, a properly worded letter, you have to know what type of information they need to get you what you are looking for. You cannot just send in a generic "find this" request. Using the proper request, the proper form, a properly worded letter you will get the documentation you are seeking. I received 84 pages in the first probate request, two weeks later, an additional 124 pages. All stuff they copied from microfiche. At $ .10 per page. Some of these records went back to 1838. I will send you the forms (both State and Federal), the request letter, what you need to send them in terms of specifics, if you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. I have compiled a list of each State’s statutes and codes that you will need to reformat the request form for your particular State or the State you are sending the request to. I have included some specific searching directions and examples that may help you. For those of us who have been unable to get to an out-of-town location or to afford a researcher it's great. My email is genealogyprincess@hotmail.com or klawler@batorberlin.com. Please only use these for responses. I’ll be happy to answer questions! I will be happy to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. Any other requests for help, I will send a form. I am requesting $6.58 for paper, copying, assembly, large envelope, and postage costs. This package of information is 22+ pages (and growing) -- and I had no idea this would be responded to in such huge numbers (!!). So, if you’re interested, send $6.58, personal check is ok, [Kathy Lawler] to Genealogy Princess, 20757 Camden Square, #210, Lathrup Village, MI 48076 or use my Paypal address [checking] for $7.00 to Genealogyprincess2000@yahoo.com. Either way, don’t forget your address!! I will send you the information the very day I receive your address and funds. Lastly, additional information, new ways I can come up with to use FOIA will be sent to you free of charge and I’ll also be happy to answer any questions you may have. This is strictly to get you information that will help you gather documents and information to further your search for your ancestors. Thanks! Kathleen Lawler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2313.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ok , will do. Have a nice holiday.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2313.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: well thanks anyway, and keep in touch, if you come up with anything.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2313.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My John B. Hoyer died Dec. 1921 in PA. Don't have death dates on his kids.