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For those that inquired the publisher of the booklet I have, it was Southwest PA Genealogical Services and distributed by Closson Press. Neil

John Simon (2) William Simons (1), no Kecks JacquelinSheldon@aol.com wrote: > This website will give you a good idea about the surrounding locals. > Looking for my Simons, Kecks in that area. Do you see that name in > your pamphlet? > > 1830 Tyrone Township, Perry County, Pa > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eilex/1830/tyrone.htm> > > Jacqueline J Sheldon > Surnames: Walker, Dymond, Hollister, Jones, Whitlock; Keck, Simons

There are a total of 6 Maxwells scattered over 5 townships. Do you have a first name or would you like all 6? Neil LTCMAX117@aol.com wrote: >Neil- >In 1778 Newton Twp stretched from the South Mountain to the North Mountain >and included both Upper and Lower Mifflin Twps. >Tyrone Twp. covered the middle third of current-day Perry County, with >Toboyne on the west and Rye on the east. >Any MAXWELLs on your listing besides the ones in current-day Franklin >County?........Max > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Ray Schwartz and I have corresponded for several years about the Matter/Motter family and the Wilderson (vs sp) family both of Manheim Township, York County, Pennsylvania. He recently referred to two notes I had posted on the Matter roots web list and I thought this might be of general interest because it is a review of a few of the difficulties and how we have attempted to resolve some of them. The original notes are in the archives and they are referenced below. The patriarch of the Manheim Township Matter line is George. He arrived on the ship Brothers a few days before September 16, 1751, at Philadelphia. Here I will put in a plug for Ralph Beaver Strassburger he edited Pennsylvania German Pioneers Vol 1 (1727-1745) and other volumes. I had Vol I on CD 267 from Broderbund on a trial - it requires Family Tree Maker. The introduction alone is worth the price. The passengers from the Brothers were eventually cleared for landing and on September 16, 1751, they stood on the steps of city hall listened to the oaths - which are described in the introduction of PGP - and signified their allegiance to King George and their abhorrence of certain traitorous efforts. Their acutal signatures are to be seen somewhere - if anyone has them I would greatly appreciate seeing the signature of the two men mentioned below. And here the fun begins. The devil is in the spelling. Geög Mader and Valtin Matter are listed next to each other. The list is not alphabetized so they have been taken by contemporary searchers as the brothers, George Matter and Valentine Matter, who brought the name and variations like Motter to Manheim Township, York County, Pennsylvania and nearby Frederick County, Maryland. Some early seeker proved to the satisfaction of the Huguenot National Society that this George Matter was a Huguenot. But when I paid the society a fee to provide me with the confirming data they removed George from the approved list. Neat way to generate a negative flow of information. Ray asked me if I had discovered anything more about George and I now answer - sorry no. Ray also asked me about the reported death of Margaretha Wilderson Matter (vs sp) in Beaver Township, now in Mahoning County, Ohio. Betty Jane Vickers, 954 W Schneitter Cir #4, Midway Ut 84049-6106, was my source of this death-location, and Ray says he has something indicating that Margaretha died in the home of her son-in-law Henry Thoman. She is not listed in the 1850 census of that household, but of course she may have gone there after the summer of 1850. About five years ago I talked to Betty Jane Vickers and we corresponded. She was very cooperative, but could not furnish any source for this death-location. She had done the work 20 years earlier when she had Henry and Margaretha Baptized as is the custom of the Latter Day Saints. One reference she thought might help - a history of the county - did not. Another LDS member, Dee Wayne Schvaneveldt, I believe used her work in his publications. I talked to his family not long after he had died. Ray asked me if I had anything more on this death-location and again I must answer no new documented facts. I have speculated about this family and there are a many reasons for thinking Margaretha died in Ohio. But so far I have found no proof. And I think I could put together an equally interesting story about her last years in Manheim Township. And after answering Ray that brings me to another reason for this long and I suppose to many boring review. Geög Mader, better know as George Matter, had a son Johan Henrich of Georg MATTER, born April 21, 1768. And Henry had a son he named George: George son of Henry MATTER and wife, born October 29, 1795, baptized December 6, 1795. Witness: Geo. MATTER. Later Henry and siblings often were known as Motter. These facts are neatly documented and have been given to me by Ray and others - for which kindness and helpfulness I am grateful. My great-great-grandfather is neatly documented and proven to be George Mater of the eastern end of Cumberland County. He is known to have been born in the last half of 1795. His wife's name is Elizabeth and he died May 3, 1848 in Hampden Township, Cumberland County. I have searched out all the George M* with any possibility of being his father and I can find only one that fits and provides a documented connection- the Manheim Township George. But I think I must give him up because Ray has some notes which I believe his mother left him indicating that George married Anna Maria someone and died in 1837. I guess the date of the marriage and the location of his death are not known. But obliviously he cannot be my George. So this is my swan song - I will continue looking elswsehere. Regards Hal The following will open the archives to anyone wanting more info on this conversation - ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Laube" <zurlauben@mindspring.com> > > To: <MATTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:35 PM > > Subject: [MATTER/MOTTER] WILDERSON-MOTTER -OH-bef 1846 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arthur Laube" <zurlauben@mindspring.com> > > To: <MATTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:32 PM > > Subject: [MATTER/MOTTER] Re: [HWE] Alsace Huguenots?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McFee, Bischoff, Tefertiller, Schmeckpeper, Murphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/32.1 Message Board Post: I think we are connected!! Ford H. McFee was the father of Thomas Plummer McFee, my Great - Great - Great Grandfather. Thomas Plummer married Sarah Tefertiller. They were parents of my Great Grandmother, Fannie McFee Murphy. William McFee was Ford's father, his mother was Martha Thompson. William was born in Lanark, Scotland. Clarissa, Matilda, Ford, Samuel, and William were his children. He died in Fayette City, Fayette Co, PA, USA. Please contact me at DCraig1233@aol.com. I am Dana Schmeckpeper George. We have a website with Thomas Plummer's descendents listed. We don't have a lot of information on William or Ford. Maybe you could help us out!!

Wilmer, I have a copy of the information from Adams County including the map of the plot of land. I am interested in the Brown's as I believe one of them is the father of my Josias Brown who lived in Cumberland County and served in the militia from there. It is also possible that they came on the ship with the Carnahans, Brady's, McClures, Quigley's and landed at Henalopen Delaware. There was a Josias Brown who married a Josiah Brown in 1719 in First Presbyterian, Phildelphia. I am trying to track them down through the Carnahans. Thanks, Janice Brown O'Brien

Do you have a Ruth Maxwell in your line. Janice O'Brien

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/470.1599.1 Message Board Post: I am also looking for Benjamin Minnich of York PA. born 1827. He married Catherine Kosler. Is this the same Benjamin and do you have any further info you could share??

Neil- In 1778 Newton Twp stretched from the South Mountain to the North Mountain and included both Upper and Lower Mifflin Twps. Tyrone Twp. covered the middle third of current-day Perry County, with Toboyne on the west and Rye on the east. Any MAXWELLs on your listing besides the ones in current-day Franklin County?........Max

Hello, I'm seeking the death month, and day if possible, for a grave located in the Fairview Zion Lutheran Cemetery at Enola. Can anyone tell me where the burial records can be searched? The grave of Robert McCombs has the death year of 1956 on the gravestone. However, I would like to narrow the death down to a month or day to facilitate a search for his obit. Thanks, Bob Miller Researching McCombs & Hippensteel of Cumberland County.

There are two lists at Cumberland County Historical Society, one by Zeamer in the early 1900's and another (I do not recall the author). I have obtained copies by sending a request, nad money to cover the cost, to CCHS. The address is available on teh internet site. Tammy Putt, who lives next to the cemetery, is the caretaker of original cemetery records. She was in the phone book on Brick Church Road last time I checked. There is a partial list at: > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/cumberland/cemeteries/epenn01.txt Ame BMiller247@aol.com wrote: >Hello, > >I'm seeking the death month, and day if possible, for a grave located in the >Fairview Zion Lutheran Cemetery at Enola. Can anyone tell me where the >burial records can be searched? >The grave of Robert McCombs has the death year of 1956 on the gravestone. >However, I would like to narrow the death down to a month or day to >facilitate a search for his obit. > >Thanks, >Bob Miller > >Researching McCombs & Hippensteel of Cumberland County. > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KRISE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2969 Message Board Post: Looking for any information on my step-Grandfather, Charles KRISE, second husband of Gertrude Mary Dixon, who lived in Camp Hill, PA in the 1940s. Worked as a trainman or engineer on the railroad (Pennsylvania RR I believe). Had a son by a previous marriage named Edgar Krise.

Would taxable inhabitants in 1778 have to be landowners or were there other taxes? Neil

Thanks, J. Ray. Yes, I know they are closed for now. Supposed to open at a temporary site toward the end of the month. I appreciate your note, though. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Ray Young`" <ray@ussonet.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] 2003 Roll Call KOONS > Kathy > > Check to see if Allan county is open before you make a trip. > I believe that is closed during the month of January while they > move to temporary quarters. > > they are doing major construction at the present site and will > be in the temp location for a couple years. > > J. Ray > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.438 / Virus Database: 246 - Release Date: 1/7/03 > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > A quick link to the complete list of PA USGenWeb County sites. > http://www.pagenweb.org/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

No Alexander Cochrans listed. The book only lists name and township. Sorry. Neil DENMB@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > Hope this is not a bother. If it is I apologize. I was wondering if a > Alexander Cochran was listed in the Inhabitants of Cumberland County > in 1778? > > His wife is listed as Agness or Nancy. They are supposedly living in > Kishacoquillas Valley. > > If he is listed is there any helpful information on his arrival, > marriage or children or ancestory. > > Thanks. dennis busic

Charles Maglaughlin But I think 1778 is too early Thanks! Joseph Martin > [Original Message] > From: <highlander@supernet.com> > To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/12/2003 8:03:14 PM > Subject: RE: [PACUMBER] Inhabitants of Cumberland County in 1778 > > 4 Laughlins and 3 Laughlens but no Maglaughlins. > Do you have a first name. > > Neil > > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:49:20 -0800 Joseph Martin <jmcentral@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > Would There Be any Maglaughlins in your > > inhabitants book? > > > > Joseph Martin > > > > > > > > > I have a booket entitled "Listing of > > Inhabitants in 1778 of Cumberland > > County, > > > Pennsylvania". In there, it lists a Robert > > FERGUS living in Newton Twp. > > and a > > > John and William FERGUS living in Tyrone Twp. > > Where are these two > > townships > > > located? Would there be records kept back > > then that can confirm this. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

4 Laughlins and 3 Laughlens but no Maglaughlins. Do you have a first name. Neil On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:49:20 -0800 Joseph Martin <jmcentral@earthlink.net> wrote: > Would There Be any Maglaughlins in your > inhabitants book? > > Joseph Martin > > > > > I have a booket entitled "Listing of > Inhabitants in 1778 of Cumberland > County, > > Pennsylvania". In there, it lists a Robert > FERGUS living in Newton Twp. > and a > > John and William FERGUS living in Tyrone Twp. > Where are these two > townships > > located? Would there be records kept back > then that can confirm this. > > > > >

Just to add to the below comment. Always call a day or two before heading out to any Historical Society or Courthouse to make sure you'll be able to access what you need. Last year I went into a courthouse to look through wills and marriages and the entire office was pulled out into the hallway - new carpeting was being installed! And plan to have a back up place to visit. Marcia ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Ray Young`" <ray@ussonet.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] 2003 Roll Call KOONS > Kathy > > Check to see if Allan county is open before you make a trip. > I believe that is closed during the month of January while they > move to temporary quarters. > > they are doing major construction at the present site and will > be in the temp location for a couple years. > > J. Ray

I have a booket entitled "Listing of Inhabitants in 1778 of Cumberland County, Pennsylvania". In there, it lists a Robert FERGUS living in Newton Twp. and a John and William FERGUS living in Tyrone Twp. Where are these two townships located? Would there be records kept back then that can confirm this. Neil Johnson Looking for the FERGUS surname in Pennsylvania