John - You have forced me into the third Millinieum - I have version 8 of FTM and I have to get an upgrade to 10 inorder to open your file - it will be a week or so before I get it. I need to keep up. So thanks for the wake up call... Here is an account of a very hard to find Mater and his son Samuel. The Meder story is included because those who know how the name sounds as spoken in German and how an English speaker would write it - say that Meder could very likely be written Mater. More on this later when I send you my post doc thesis on this subject...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In 1720, Manheim became the residence of the Elector Palatine, who built (1720--60) a large palace and held a brilliant court there. Manheim in the 1770's is the capital of Kurpfalz. Evangelisch (Lutheran) in Kurpfalz were outnumbered by Reformierte and the Elector like the last Count Palatine, was Reformierte (Calvinist.) documented history In the following the dates and associated facts are documented - the landing details are typical as documented for other ships - but there are always many assumptions involved - for instance there is no paper trail proving that the doctor from Mannheim is he who arrived on the Janet. Philip Jacob MEDER, doctor of medicine, son of Nicholas MEDER from the Electoral city of Mannheim, arrived at Philadelphia about October 1, 1751, aboard the good ship Janet. The Janet waited at an anchorage a mile or so off shore until the port doctor inspected everything on the ship and certified that there were no signs of fever, rashes or pox. On the next tide and with favorable winds the Janet anchored at the dock. On October 7, those passengers who could walk were led to the court house where they swore loyalty to King George and signed that they abhorred Roman Catholics and the Pope who were trying to usurp the king's authority and they also claimed they abhorred anyone who did not agree with the king(my paraphrasing of these oaths.) The good doctor having paid for his passage with services rendered the ship's captain and the crew was now free to leave. Most of the other passengers were under contract to the captain for their "freight." They remained aboard until someone paid the captain in exchange for their contract to render their colonial owner good and faithful service, usually for seven-years. Doctor of Medicine, Philip Jacob MEDER promptly moved west to Lancaster County. December 19, 1752, he married Maria MERCKEL, daughter of John Merckel. They were married by the Reverend John Waldschmidt who served Cocalico Reformed Church in Ephrata Township, Lancaster County during the period 1752- 1786. In that same year, 1752, Bergstrasse a Lutheran congregation, two miles southeast of Ephrata Township (at that time Earl Township) was formed. The first minister, Theophilus Engelland opened the register in 1753. And for some unknown reason Dr. Meder joined that congregation. On March 2, 1755, Doctor Philip Jacob MEDER, proudly brought his son John Philip, born January 22, 1755, for Baptism. The sponsors (God parents) were Johan Schäfer and wife. The doctor and his wife had many good friends in the Cocalico Reformed congregation and in June 1772 he and his wife sponsored a Baptism in that church. Diewalt MATTER arrived in Philadelphia on the same ship with Dr. Meder, but unlike the educated doctor of medicine, Diewalt did not know how to spell his own name. Dr. Meder did not see his family name misspelled on the Janet' s passenger list or he would have corrected it. He knew names were important and he made sure that his surname and given names were spelled and used properly. So it is no surprise to see that Diewalt MATTER's son Samuel attends a Reformed congregation of the Reverend John Waldschmidt, probably Cocalico, as Samuel MEDER, son of Dewald MEDER. On August 9, 1785 Samuel MEDER married Barbara Brendel, daughter of Philip Brendel. Although Samuel MEDER knew how to spell his name is father never seemed to get it straight and he may be the Dewalt MATER who died August 4, 1821, in the 90th year of his age and is buried in St. John's Evangelical Lutheran church graveyard in Shiremanstown, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. The actual cemetery record follows. It is not unusual for the letter "d" and "t" to be interchanged by German speakers in early Pennsylvania. But we have no paper trail linking the passengers on the Janet with the above scenario. Although there are several examples of Mater being used instead of Matter in early Lebanon and Lancaster County church records, Matter searchers have proven or have good reason to believe that these are typos or similar. And that may be so in this case. But so far this Diewalt MATTER on the Janet can not be identified in Alsace. Maybe he should have been listed as Dewald MEDER. Maybe he came from Manheim. Maybe he continued west and along with some other mixed up people thought his name was better spelled Dewalt Mater. Following is from Church and Cemetery Records of Cumberland County Historical Society. St. John's Evangelical Lutheran church graveyard in Shiremanstown, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Sect. A#200 Mater, Dewalt b: 1731 (from age) d: August 4, 1821 90-years old. Sect. A#199 Mater, Margaret, b 1742 died 18 May 1819, age 77-4-18. Dewalt's wife? Sect. A#354 Mater, Samuel, b: 2 Aug 1808, d: 31 Dec 1855, wife, Susanna, b: 17 April 1806, d:18 March 1892 Sect. A#475 Mater, Henry, b: 17 Dec 1810, d:19 Aug 1855, wife, Elizbeth, 10 June 1814, 4 April 1880 The surname Diebold became a given name in the German speaking Matter family of Alsace - about 1600-from memory. Matter from Alsace arrived in Philadelphia in 1751 on the Edinburgh and the Brothers - the former came to Lancaster County and the latter to Mannheim Township, York County. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We can not fine Dewald/Diewalt Mater/Meder/Matter in the 1790 -1800-1810 census in the Susquehanna River Valley. But he is probably there living with one of his married daughters - or maybe a son. One thing these Mater of Cumberland County have in common - not a single one of them bought any land (unless a change of names in the land records has fooled me) - they were not farmers. Probably weavers and the like. Among the very few who were provided with food that they did not grow. Hal

Hal Stitt wrote me: > The signatures are intriguing. I am going to send them to a couple of > friends in Germany who may be able to provide some perspective. It would > help if I could tell them from which part of Germany they came. Do you > know? Two on the Janet - 1751. Doctor of Medicine from the Electoral City of Mannheim, Philp Jacob MEDER (from Lancaster County Cocalico Reformed church record in 1752 when he married - assuming this is the same guy who got off the boat.) Name in the church record as shown. Diewald MATTER also arrived on the Janet. We do not know where he is from. Other Matter arrived in 1751, this same year, from Alsace. The surname Diebold came into one of the Alsace Matter lines in the 1600's and was commonly used as a given name, but there has been no connection. When Samuel Meder married, 1785, in Cocalico Reformed church he said he was the son of Diewald MEDER. We speculate that Diewald MATTER/MEDER is the Dewalt MATER buried in St. John's Evangelical Lutheran church, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. He d: August 4, 1821 in the 90th year of his age. Near him Samuel b: August 2, 1808 d: December 31, 1855. The two on the Brothers also 1751 are thought to George Matter/Motter and his brother Valentine Matter from Alsace. Later they are found in Manheim Township, York County. I posgted this on couple of lists - trying to stirr ujp interest - hope taht is ok with you Hal

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shoemaker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2973 Message Board Post: Would anyone out there happen to have information on Daniel Shoemaker born 1824/25 in Pa. Married abt. 1849 to Sarah ? . Living in 1850 Perry County Centre Twp. then in 1870 in the East ward of Carlisle Cumberland County in 1870 he was an Inn Keeper. He died before the 1880 census as his wife Sarah is then a widow. Their children (that I know of ) were Margaret A., William H., Annie L. Charles, and Carey D. Shoemaker. Any help would be greatly appreciated Daniel and Sarah were my paternal great great grandparents. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Robin

I am researching any and all Cain families in Cumberland Co. My Cain/Kain family I believe left Cumberland Co about 1800 - 1814 and migrated to Perry Co. OH. Is anyone else reseraching any of the Cain families? Karen Researching my Cain, Brazzel, Boettcher, Schild, Brandt families http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandt/index.html Peace starts with a smile! _________________________________________________________________

Hi all, Just wanted to let anyone know that I found out that my George RINEHART b. 1788 who lots of people have as marrying Elizabeth PALM is NOT correct! I do not know who starting this line but I have since found out through my own research that George RINEHART married Elizabeth BOSH...................... Is anyone researching the BOSH surname?? I can't seem to find anything other then a little info on a Lewis BOSH and I have no idea if he is related..................... The BOSH surname I did get from their son, Henry's death certificate.............. Any and all help is greatly appreciated! Sharon Frank in Fl.

Does anyone know whether the burials in Spring Hill Cemetery in Shippensburg are online? Thanks. Peggy in Dayton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2972 Message Board Post: I am trying to find the parents of a group of Galbraiths, apparently siblings, who went to Jefferson County, OH, bet. 1800-1810, and then to Guernsey, Tuscarawas and Harrison Counties in Ohio. These Galbraiths are as follows: Hannah b. abt. 1765 m. possibly Allen WOODS; Robert b. abt. 1767 m. ?; James b. ? m. ?; John b. abt. 1780 m. Sarah WILLIAMS; Margaret b. 1780-1790 m. Joseph? SPICER; Samuel S. b. 1784 m. Mary WILLIAMS; Joseph b. 1786 m. Elizabeth VANHORN Joseph Galbraith b. 1786 was said to be a graduate of Cannonsburg College in Washington, PA, which is near Pittsburgh. In the 1800 census, I find a Margaret Galbraith, with older children, living in Cross Creek Twp., Washington County, PA. The will of Robert, made in 1854 (he died in 1860), lists sisters Hannah Woods, Margaret Spicer, and the heirs of James, John, and Samuel Galbraith. He does not mention the heirs of Joseph Galbraith, although Joseph's family is living nearby; in fact, in 1850, Robert is living with one of Joseph's sons. When he died, he was living with one of Samuel's sons. The will of Samuel S. Galbraith, who died in 1847, lists sons Charles, Samuel, Thomas, Henry, Joseph, John, and Johnston and daughters Sarah LEEPER (wife of George Bell Leeper), Mary MALLARNEE, and Rebecca OLEPHANT. I am aware that the LEEPER name is connected in other lines with Galbraiths, as is the BELL name. I also have a surname HAYS (including a Dorcas Hays) connected to this family, as well as a WILSON . All of these surnames occur in the area of Cumberland County, PA, where many Galbraiths were. For this reason, and because of the given names of these Ohio Galbraiths, I believe they are likely connected to the Cumberland County, PA Galbraiths. I have also found a 1765 marriage record in Cumberland County for a Samuel Galbraith and a Margaret Miloy. I have not found this couple on any other records, but I am wondering if the Margaret in Washington County could possibly be his widow and the mother of this brood. I would sincerely appreciate any insight anyone might have into this family. Susan

Regarding the William Laird in the 1810 PA Census Cumberland Co. Middleton, I have the following war record that I believe may be of the same William Laird. Any comments would be appreciated. William Laird served from June 15 to Aug 24 in 1814 in the Reg't commanded by Col. James Fenton in Capt. William Alexander's Co. of Pennsylvania Volunteers. When he was discharged Aug 24, he was in Albany, NY, and his place of residence was listed as Carlisle, PA. Then, William served from Aug 30 to Sep 28 in 1814 in Capt. Jacob Squier's Co. of PA Militia, attached to the 49th Reg't of the Maryland Militia. When he was discharged Sep 23, the company was allowed five days for traveling from Baltimore where discharged to Carlisle, their place of residence. Does anyone know more of the William Laird in Middleton for the 1810 Census, or of this military service? Thanks. Anne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sellers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2971 Message Board Post: Thomas Sellers applied for a tract of land of 200 acres adjoining John Sample, John McClelland, and Archibald Irwin. Application was filed 12 Apr 1766 in Peters Twp. If anyone has further information about Thomas Sellers, I would appreciate very much hearing from you.

Would anyone on this list be able to lookup the enumerations for the household of: William Laird 1810 PA Census Cumberland Co. Middleton Thank you very much for any help. Anne

William Laird Cumberland Co., PA Middleton Twp. Roll M252_48 Page 64 2 - males under 10 1 - male 16-25 1 - female under 10 1 - female 16-25 Hope this helps, Carolyn Campbell White searching CAMPBELL & NOBLE families from Cumberland Co. -----Original Message----- From: crice [mailto:crice@southpenn.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:27 PM To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACUMBER] 1810 Census William Laird Would anyone on this list be able to lookup the enumerations for the household of: William Laird 1810 PA Census Cumberland Co. Middleton Thank you very much for any help. Anne ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== A quick link to the complete list of PA USGenWeb County sites. http://www.pagenweb.org/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, MATTER signs the Oath list of the Janet -1751. He and his son's surname become MEDER in the 1785 Reformed records of the Reverend John Waldschmidt, probably Cocalico, in Ephrata Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.. It is probably he and his son who, in the 1800's, are is buried as Mater in a Lutheran cemetery in Carlisle, Cumberland County. A lot of speculation is involved in the above statements because of the name changes but the connections seem likely. Question. Does MATTER and MEDER sound enough like MATER for ministers and census enumerators et al in the 1800 Susquehanna River Valley to record it as MATER? I have stripped away most details to focus on the surnames. I know anything can happen by accident and because of illiteracy, but I am asking about the German speaking sound of the three surnames. Comments appreciated. Regards to the many devoted searchers - Hal

The ACPL is reopened in their new temp site at 200 E berry St, the Renaissance Square. Donna from IN > Sorry to be so long responding. Rough couple of months. > > I checked the Allen County (Indiana) Public Library's website, and they do > indeed have a copy of "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical > Record of the Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central > Printing & Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. It's call number is 929.2 > B3808B. They also have a microfiche copy -- G-843 -- in their Genealogy and > Local History Collection. The library is currently closed for remodeling, so > I don't know if it's possible to view this now or not. I don't think they > loan out books in their genealogy collection, but you might check about the > microfiche. Good luck. > > Kathy in Indiana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cdknow@aol.com> > To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:05 PM > Subject: [PACUMBER] A Genealogy of the Bears > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2933 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > While going over some old records I found reference to a Bear genealogy. > My line of Dillers married into a line of Bowmans (names all have a familiar > ring, don't they) who married into a line of Bears. > > > > It was "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical Record of the > Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central Printing & > Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. > > > > I don't have it and I know books of that period are often flawed but I'll > wager it's, at the least, interesting reading . Any one seen it? > > > > David > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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When the Fort Wayne library re-opens its genealogy division in its temporary location, (2-3 years), ALL the books will be browse-able. This will be a wonderful opportunity, as the books at Fort Wayne have always been back in the stacks and brought out at patron request. Sometimes microfiche can be ordered through inter-library loan. Have you checked to see if this microfiche is available through an LDS library? Sharon Mills At 03:39 PM 1/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry to be so long responding. Rough couple of months. > >I checked the Allen County (Indiana) Public Library's website, and they do >indeed have a copy of "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical >Record of the Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central >Printing & Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. It's call number is 929.2 >B3808B. They also have a microfiche copy -- G-843 -- in their Genealogy and >Local History Collection. The library is currently closed for remodeling, so >I don't know if it's possible to view this now or not. I don't think they >loan out books in their genealogy collection, but you might check about the >microfiche. Good luck. > >Kathy in Indiana > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <cdknow@aol.com> >To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:05 PM >Subject: [PACUMBER] A Genealogy of the Bears > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2933 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > While going over some old records I found reference to a Bear genealogy. >My line of Dillers married into a line of Bowmans (names all have a familiar >ring, don't they) who married into a line of Bears. > > > > It was "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical Record of the >Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central Printing & >Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. > > > > I don't have it and I know books of that period are often flawed but I'll >wager it's, at the least, interesting reading . Any one seen it? > > > > David > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? >http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/452.489.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you know anything about Margaret's husband or her children? You can e-mail me. Thank you so much - I have some information, but love to confirm details.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/452.489.1 Message Board Post: Margaret was the daughter of my 2nd great grandfather Christian Sr. She was born 1793 in Cumberland County, PA Married George Reis 1812 most likley at her home if she went with her father.1780-1810 they lived in Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA Lived in Sherman's Valley Norhtern Cumberland. Around 1809-10 moved to Mount Pleasant township in Westmorland County. Could have married there. She died 1866 my guess would be Mount Pleasant area.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/452.490 Message Board Post: Nancy, regarding Christian's residence. I have Johanne Gamber being Christian's father. Johanne had 50 acres surveyed in 1751 in Bucks County. Tax record from 1760 shows his farm to be in Maiden Creek Township of Berks County PA In 1767 still in Maiden Creek property was 70 acres 2 horses, 3 cows, 3 sheep. His tax bill was $.80. In 1775 Johanne deeded his land and possessions to his oldest son Christian. From 1775 - 1780 Christian was in the militia that was led by George Washington. In 1780 Christian left Berks County and moved to Tyrone Township Cumberland County. Anne Gamber Luupfer also lived in this area. Could have been his sister. Christian stayed in this area for 20 years. He built and operated a saw mill. At the close of the 18th century he moved to Mount Pleasant Township in West morland County. Not long after arriving his youngest son William was born 8-30-1798 Westmorland County. William is my 3rd great grandfather. Christian's wife Margaretta died sometime between 1800-1820. He moved one last time to Alleghany township which is 35 miles northeast where he married at the age of 80 a Mary McCutcheon who was 70. They were married more than 10 years when he died sometime between 18300-1840. Mary then went to live with Christian Jr. That all I know. Are you the Nancy that belongs to Jerry & Doris from Mondovi??

Sorry to be so long responding. Rough couple of months. I checked the Allen County (Indiana) Public Library's website, and they do indeed have a copy of "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical Record of the Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central Printing & Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. It's call number is 929.2 B3808B. They also have a microfiche copy -- G-843 -- in their Genealogy and Local History Collection. The library is currently closed for remodeling, so I don't know if it's possible to view this now or not. I don't think they loan out books in their genealogy collection, but you might check about the microfiche. Good luck. Kathy in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: <cdknow@aol.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] A Genealogy of the Bears > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2933 > > Message Board Post: > > While going over some old records I found reference to a Bear genealogy. My line of Dillers married into a line of Bowmans (names all have a familiar ring, don't they) who married into a line of Bears. > > It was "A Genealogy of the Bear Family and Biographical Record of the Descendants of Jacob Bear" by Walter Scott Bear, 1906, Central Printing & Publishing Company, Harrisburg, Pa. > > I don't have it and I know books of that period are often flawed but I'll wager it's, at the least, interesting reading . Any one seen it? > > David > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Howe, Marsh, Sutton, Robertson, Baird Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/306.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have any information on Joseph Howe b. 1819 who married Fannie E. Marsh b. 1823 in Cincinnati, OH. They lived in OH until 1852 when they moved to IL and then to Mt. Pleasant, IA in 1854. They operated a store and lived there until 1877 when they moved to Los Angeles, CA. Some of their grown children remained in IA and some made the move to CA with them. Joseph owned a plumbing store in downtown Los Angeles. When he died in 1883 two of his sons took over the plumbing business calling it Howe Brothers. I am descended through there son Charles S. They also had sons named Joseph and George. Please email me at kathyc2468@hotmail.com if you have info on this Howe line or any suggestions as where to look. Thanks!