Has anyone ever heard of this place? Reference was made to it from a Rev. War document, so it may be in another county formed from Cumberland. Thanks, Kathy

I have a Catharine Longsdorf born 1790, married to John Franklin. Do you have this Longsdorf?? Dawn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keylor, Drum, Conger, Denbow, Kirkbride, Piatt, Moffett, Paith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2991 Message Board Post: I am trying to find any information on the Keylor family in Cumberland County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2990 Message Board Post: Seeking info on Jacob Null's parents. He married Elizabeth Mowery Null, b. abt 1786. Anyone related? Jacob was my my g/g/g/grandfather.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hard, Smiley, Pennington, Heinisch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/930.1902.2230.1.1 Message Board Post: The list of children of William does not include Thomas. But I do have Lillian Smiley b. 1879. relatd to my Hard line. I have had fun with the 1880 census. I found Eunice but no Tomas, he must have died. I have Wilcox in our line but Hiram is as far back as I've gotten and he is b. 1816, Oh... Would love to share info... Thanks for writing.:)

I believe that the Henry Kelly listed with the Cumberland Militia under Captain Black's Company may be my ancestor. Any ideas of how I could find Captain Black and where his men may have been from? Searches have yielded a Captain Adam Black of York County, Captain William Black of Bedford, and Captain John Black of Northumberland. I have found nothing for Cumberland. Many thanks, Kathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/930.1902.2230.1 Message Board Post: I have a Thomas William Smiley, b. around 1830, married Eunice Wilcox, had a son, David, who married Joesphine Clark, I believe that Thomas Williams, father was William, does any of these names ring a bell? Thanks, Paula

Hi, I only have one KNOUSE....................I have found her listed as Catherine but mostly as Sarah............this is all I know of her, her maisen name I got from a widow's pension record . Sgt. Edward WILDERS b. 1820 MD, d. July 24, 1869 (buried in Old Carlisle Cem.) married Sarah KNOUSE (b. 1820) mrd. 9 Sept, 1841 in Petersburg, Adams Co., Pa. She died sometime after the 1890 special census was taken, I do not know when though....................I haven't found out who her parents are as yet??? I do have a list of kids of theirs if anyone is interested in WILDERS.......... Not much help huh? :-) Sharon Frank in Fl > I'm new to your List. The Surnames I am looking for are: > > Grove > Diller > Knouse > Logan > > all of Frankford Twp., Cumberland County. > > Would love to hear from anyone researching these names. > > Marjorie White, > Ontario, Canada > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Search this mail list. > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Was doing more digging on my John REACHERT and found a problem. (gee, what a surprise) LEt us say for argument, that the 1850 census with Gutlip (Gotleib) RIECHERT and wife Margaret are the parents of John. In the 1880 census John, is listed with his daughter Ida F. (my g-gran, so I know he is the right one) and his mother age 65, Martha. o-o-OK....then in the cemetery next to his wife and his stone is MAgdalene REAGHERT. Is this woman really Margaret MArtha Magdalene REACHERT? Is this 3 different women? Are the people who transcribe blind? Can Anyone figure this out for me?? KRismarie

I have found that one too-but I don't know if they were his family. The mothers name is Margaret, and I don't know if this is the same family. I have them down as possibilities in my genealogy. Thanks-Kris

Hi Donna: The LOGAN that I am looking for is Sarah E. Logan, Grandaughter of George & Elizabeth Knouse in the 1880 Census for Frankford Twp. Sarah would have been born about 1867 and was living with her Grandparents at that time. Do not know who her parents were. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Marjorie White, Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Heller Zinn" <djzinn@pa.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] LOGAN - PECK - MORRISON - READER - HARTMAN > Hi Marjorie and fellow Listers: > > I am researching the LOGANs also. My connection is through Anna Margaret > LOGAN (b.27-Sep-1859 Cumb.Co. d.27-Dec-1922 West Pennsboro Twp., Cumb.Co. > bd. in Plainfield Bethel Graveyard, West Pennsboro Twp., Cumb.Co. d/o James > D. and Lydia Catherine PECK LOGAN) who md. 8-Apr-1880 in St. Matthias' > Lutheran Church, Carlisle Springs, Middlesex Twp., Cumb.Co. to George Wesley > [Westley] MORRISON (b.27-Mar-1856 d.26-Feb-1935). > > James D[ouglas] LOGAN (b.28-Apr-1794 d.30-May-1869 bd. in Salem Stone > Church Cemetery, Lower Frankford Twp., Cumb.Co.) md. Lydia Catherine PECK > (b.8-Jan-1828 in Cumb.Co. d.17-Dec-1909 Frankford Twp., Cumb.Co. bd. in > Salem Stone Church Cemetery d/o Frederick and Catharine READER PECK). > > ** James D. and Lydia Catherine PECK LOGAN had the following children: > ** Cora E. (b.1845 d.pre.1909) > ** Mary E. "Margaretta" (b.1848 d.post 1909) > ** George W. (b.1850 d.pre.1909) > ** James H.[A.] (b.1851 d.post 1909) > ** Elizabeth J. (b.1855 d.pre.1909) > ** Anna Margaret (see above) > ** Laura F. (b.12-Jul-1861 d.12-Mar-1895 > md. Adolphus Gustaves MORRISON (brother to George Westley above) > ** Martha A[lice] (b.1864 d.post 1909 md. _____ HARTMAN) > > Anything look familiar? > Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marjorie White" <white@lindsaycomp.on.ca> > To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:30 PM > Subject: [PACUMBER] Surname Interests > > > > I'm new to your List. The Surnames I am looking for are: > > > > Grove > > Diller > > Knouse > > Logan > > > > all of Frankford Twp., Cumberland County. > > > > Would love to hear from anyone researching these names. > > > > Marjorie White, > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > > Search this mail list. > > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Carl we have Tax Lists - Cumberland County -1768-1768-1770 by Merri Lou Scribner Schaumann On this list we have Michael Egulph (we assume Egolf) listed on Penns Rates - tax list for 1770. 300 L on Middle Creek. This seems to be present day Snyder County and if so this Middle Creek flows into Penns Creek and thence to the Susquehanna River. a.. I am told that Snyder Co. land records go back to 1855 when Snyder was formed from Union Co. b.. Union Co. records go back to 1813 when Union was formed from Northumberland. c.. Before Northumberland Co. was formed in 1772, this area drained by Middle Creek lay near the border between Cumberland Co. and Berks Co. I know you have a lot of information on the Egolf's - I think of this area? Do you have anything on this Michael? Do I have the correct Middle Creek? This seems to be way out of way in time and place to be the Michael Egolff born October 2, 1725, in Engstadt - I suppose it could be the Michael born November 23, 1756, but I wonder what he was doing there and what happened - why did he leave? He seems to have property valued at 300 pounds? But no cow no horse. That means no family. In what land office is this property recorded? I can't find it in Cumberland or Snyder? I would appreciate your comets Carl - thanks for past help - and best regards Hal

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/384.1252.1255.1.2 Message Board Post: Candice, Would please email me? I have some questions about your Walter Motley. Thank you

Hi, Could this be him? 1850 North Middleton Twp., Cumberland County, Pa. Federal Census: RIECHART GUTLIP 36 Shoemaker Born Pa. MARGARET 36 " " JOHN 6 " " MARY 4 " " ABRAHAM 1 month " " Nancy Washington Twp., Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cregg and Kris Fetter <geep70@bright.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Reachert..Help! > I need some help finding the parents of John M. REAGHERT b.1843 > d.1893Middlesex Twp., Cumberland Co. PA and buried in Letort Spring Church > Graveyard in Cumberland Co. PA. Now with the last name REAGHERT I have run > into the spelling dilemma. I have seen it RICHARD-REICHERT-REACHARD-REACHART > and I could go on. In Cumberland Co. I have seen several variations, so I am > never sure if my John is the right John. In the cemetery he is buried by a > Magdalene REACHERT who would be a possible mother candidate if I could find > her in the census with John . My Dad always thought they were part Indian, > but I have no proof of that yet. Can anyone help me? Many Thanks- Krismarie > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MOTLEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/384.1252.1255.2 Message Board Post: WAS WALTER'S DAD'S NAME LEE MOTLEY AND HIS MOM'S NAME MARY. THE WALTER I'M LOOKING FOR HIS MOM DIED IN ARIZONA AND HIS DAD IN MISSOURI LEE MOTLEY HAD A BROTHER ( HULSEY MOTLEY MARRIED TO JOHANNA MYERS) AND JOHANNA AND MARY WAS SISTERS EMAIL ME IF THIS IS THE SAME ONE YOUR LOOKING FOR CBLANKFORD1@AOL.COM

I need some help finding the parents of John M. REAGHERT b.1843 d.1893Middlesex Twp., Cumberland Co. PA and buried in Letort Spring Church Graveyard in Cumberland Co. PA. Now with the last name REAGHERT I have run into the spelling dilemma. I have seen it RICHARD-REICHERT-REACHARD-REACHART and I could go on. In Cumberland Co. I have seen several variations, so I am never sure if my John is the right John. In the cemetery he is buried by a Magdalene REACHERT who would be a possible mother candidate if I could find her in the census with John . My Dad always thought they were part Indian, but I have no proof of that yet. Can anyone help me? Many Thanks- Krismarie

Hi Marjorie and fellow Listers: I am researching the LOGANs also. My connection is through Anna Margaret LOGAN (b.27-Sep-1859 Cumb.Co. d.27-Dec-1922 West Pennsboro Twp., Cumb.Co. bd. in Plainfield Bethel Graveyard, West Pennsboro Twp., Cumb.Co. d/o James D. and Lydia Catherine PECK LOGAN) who md. 8-Apr-1880 in St. Matthias' Lutheran Church, Carlisle Springs, Middlesex Twp., Cumb.Co. to George Wesley [Westley] MORRISON (b.27-Mar-1856 d.26-Feb-1935). James D[ouglas] LOGAN (b.28-Apr-1794 d.30-May-1869 bd. in Salem Stone Church Cemetery, Lower Frankford Twp., Cumb.Co.) md. Lydia Catherine PECK (b.8-Jan-1828 in Cumb.Co. d.17-Dec-1909 Frankford Twp., Cumb.Co. bd. in Salem Stone Church Cemetery d/o Frederick and Catharine READER PECK). ** James D. and Lydia Catherine PECK LOGAN had the following children: ** Cora E. (b.1845 d.pre.1909) ** Mary E. "Margaretta" (b.1848 d.post 1909) ** George W. (b.1850 d.pre.1909) ** James H.[A.] (b.1851 d.post 1909) ** Elizabeth J. (b.1855 d.pre.1909) ** Anna Margaret (see above) ** Laura F. (b.12-Jul-1861 d.12-Mar-1895 md. Adolphus Gustaves MORRISON (brother to George Westley above) ** Martha A[lice] (b.1864 d.post 1909 md. _____ HARTMAN) Anything look familiar? Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie White" <white@lindsaycomp.on.ca> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Surname Interests > I'm new to your List. The Surnames I am looking for are: > > Grove > Diller > Knouse > Logan > > all of Frankford Twp., Cumberland County. > > Would love to hear from anyone researching these names. > > Marjorie White, > Ontario, Canada > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Search this mail list. > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I understand the Evangelical Lutheran Zion's Church, Missouri Synod, at Third and Mound, in downtown Columbus, Ohio was founded June 18, 1882. Where did the Lutherans meet before that? I know of one possibility: Trinity Lutheran, ELCA, at Fulton and Third was organized 1848. But their records are the minutes of meetings where the names of those receiving the various Sacraments were mentioned - and of course they are in German script. I need someone who can read enough German script to know Baptism from died and who is willing to search for me - the church office tells me they are looking also because of all the requests they are getting from such as us. I would bet a lot of money maybe a dollar that our ancestors are in those records. They have them on micro-fiche and ask for advanced notice of a visit. I have found religion to be a very important tool in tracking our ancestors. And I have found the study of the various religions of my ancestors to be very rewarding - spiritually. If your families are like mine you will find their names spelled many, many, many - that is too numerous to count - ways in the various records. In my current family I have found several signatures spread out over several generations - I am using other records to bring the line from Europe to the first signature - when my German speaking ancestor took the two oaths on the steps of Philadelphia's City Hall - one pledging loyalty to King George and the other abhorring the Roman Catholics and all those who where plotting to over throw King George. And of course religious wars raged through the Rhine River Valley from the time of Luther into the 1700's. So religion is a most important part of the story of our German speaking ancestors (and of course others). That is if you are interested in more than the old dry bones~ In colonial days I have found it to be very important to know what church they attended. Such information has been a great help in sorting out families and filling in the gaps between the very scarce signatures. And all along that long route from Europe to Pennsylvania I have found many people who have helped me. Cumberland County Historical Society has 27 volumes - maybe more now- of church records indexed in such a way as to be very helpful even if one has to some research by mail. And in York and Lancaster County there have been many church records and people most willing to answer questions about early churches and their ministers. And believe me before 1900 our ancestors all had a church affiliation. Almost all of them were Baptized and very few of them are buried outside a church cemetery - although toward the end of that period some of the cemeteries were becoming a bit ecumenical. I have asked these questions several times before but no one seems to have the answer - or be willing to post it. What churches were in downtown Columbus before 1900? And what is the current address and name of the survivors of these early churches? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is one example of what I have been preaching. My great-grandfather Samuel MATEER married Rebecca SHAWLEY in Crescent, Ohio, in 1859. The marriage was solemnized by the minister M. LAY, Pastor of the E. L. Church. In that record Samuel was still MATER, a left over from Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, but in 1860 and after in Columbus, Ohio he was always MATEER. He signed the marriage license. His father, George MATER married Elizabeth KINDER in 1823 in the Lutheran Church of Carlisle. The SHAWLEY family in Cumberland County were SHALLY from SCHALLY in Pfalz. In Pfalz they were Reformerite but after a generation in Pennsylvania they were Evangelisch and members of the Lutheran Church of Carlisle. Surely these good Lutherans continued for one more generation? Or maybe they joined a different Columbus Church? The staff of the church office of the Lutheran church on South High -which relocated from Third and Mound in 1954- have been most helpful. But their records from the early church do not have my family names. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is a short list of events that must be in some Columbus church record. Samuel Mateer and Rebecca had three daughters: May married before 1880 to Forest RICHMOND. They had three boys who were surely Baptized somewhere:Arthur, Mitchell and Forest. The second daughter, Flora Bell MATEER, married Burt NELSON about 1885. They had a son Earl was Baptized somewhere. The third daughter, Anna Maude MATEER married Louis C. LAUBE we think in Columbus about May 17, 1889. I can't believe that we have not been able to find her marriage record. We find records in Pfalz but in my home town I can't find my own grandmother's marriage date. `````````````````````` Annie Elizabeth SHAWLEY married William A. TROXEL in Crescent in 1856, before a civil magistrate. They also lived in Columbus and died there in 1908 and 1899. They and other members of the family mentioned here are buried in Greenlawn but those records do not indicate church affiliation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Their religion in Columbus is very important in telling this last chapter Because in addition to the long line of Lutheran described above the LAUBE line includes both Roman Catholic and Reformierte. How our grandparents managed to combine all of this and become utterly involved and very active in Masonry will be a most interesting story - but we need some facts out of Franklin County - at least equivalent to those we have dug up from much earlier days. Rootweb message boards have played a very important part in our search and we are grateful Best regards to the list Hal

I'm new to your List. The Surnames I am looking for are: Grove Diller Knouse Logan all of Frankford Twp., Cumberland County. Would love to hear from anyone researching these names. Marjorie White, Ontario, Canada

Thank you to everyone who responded to my posting for Robert Weire. Every suggestion is extremely valuable to me. Alisa