Yep, you can see St Michaels cleary on the USGS map in Greenwood Township. Go to the following index map of Perry County and click on Greenwood. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/maps/pa/county/perry/usgs/ Ed McClelland, Alexandria, Virginia.

Hi all, Does anyone know anything about a D. A. HOCH who lived in 1935 in Lemoyne? I also have a record of him being a principal in Wormleysburg and played a saxophone......... I and some HOCH cousins are trying to figure out where he fits in.............any and all help is greatly appreciated! I do not know what his first name is and would love to find out and what line he is from........... Thanks so much! Sharon Frank in Fl. sharon1@cfl.rr.com

Actually, You may want to check Maryland, because Littlestown is less than 2 miles from the Mason/Dixon line, which did not exist in 1776. I have found many ancestors that lived in PA but are buried in MD. I have spent several hours at the Adams County Historical Society and records go back to Lancaster County (the mother county, not Cumberland County). Good Luck Rita ----- Original Message ----- From: <LTCMAX117@aol.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [PACUMBER] Littlestown > Rita is correct about Littlestown and Adams County. However, since neither > of the above existed in 1776, you should probably check the Franklin County > area, which was in Cumberland County until 1784. > You might also check for your Revolutionary veteran on the huge collection > of record cards listed alphabetically on this website: > > <A HREF="http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes &ArchiveID=13&FL=D">http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view= ArchiveIndexes& > ArchiveID=13&FL=D</A> > > or > > <A HREF="http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes &ArchiveID=13&FL=D">Revolutionary War Military Abstract Card File Indexes</A> > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > A quick link to the complete list of PA USGenWeb County sites. > http://www.pagenweb.org/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Rita is correct about Littlestown and Adams County. However, since neither of the above existed in 1776, you should probably check the Franklin County area, which was in Cumberland County until 1784. You might also check for your Revolutionary veteran on the huge collection of record cards listed alphabetically on this website: <A HREF="http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=13&FL=D">http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes& ArchiveID=13&FL=D</A> or <A HREF="http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/Archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=13&FL=D">Revolutionary War Military Abstract Card File Indexes</A>

Bob, Thank you so very much. I was able to find it on the map, but I guess I'll wait a while to travel out that way. The snow's so bad that when I throw the cat out he comes flying back to the door like he's on a bungee cord. I found several lists of communicants and others in the book, "Churches Between the Mountains". This has some very early information on that Phoutz Valley congregation. I found a FRANCK/FRANK I was looking for but I am still searching for a marriage record between John PHOUTS/FOUTS and Susanna FRANCK/FRONK sometime in the 1840's. Marcia Fronk ----- Original Message ----- From: GammaDoc@aol.com To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Cc: houston4@netcarrier.com Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Re location of St. Michael's Church graveyard in Perry County Marcia, St. Michael's Church is gone, but the graveyard is still maintained. It is several miles west of Liverpool, south of the road through Pfoutz Valley. It is visible from the road, and there is a dirt access road through a field. Check the USGS map on www.topozone.com - St. Michael's Church is labeled on the 1:25,000 magnification. Bob Kline

Marcia, St. Michael's Church is gone, but the graveyard is still maintained. It is several miles west of Liverpool, south of the road through Pfoutz Valley. It is visible from the road, and there is a dirt access road through a field. Check the USGS map on <A HREF="www.topozone.com">www.topozone.com</A> - St. Michael's Church is labeled on the 1:25,000 magnification. Bob Kline

George, father of John m Elizabeth Eckert. IF George is the George in my line, he is likely the son of John Christian Simons, who also wound up in Tyrone Twp, later Landisburg when it was incorporated (abt 1820). So IF this is the same Simons family, then you might also look for related Eckerts in Landisburg area. I am interested because I have a Simons further back in another line that I am wondering if might connect to these Simons. If true, it would suggest a Simons track coming from Colebrook, thru Albany, Ulster then south into Dauphin/Lancaster and finally into the Landisburg area where they were during most of the 1800s. Family legend has my later Simons as charter members of Landisburg area DAR (yet TBD). The father of my Geo Sr, (whether or not John Christian) would likely have been born around the time of the Am Rev... Realize this is about SIMONS...but if families migrated together, these details might be clues for places to look... Jackie

Littlestown is in Adams County. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gwenandtom@wadsnet.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:10 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Historical Society to research Platt family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/2996 > > Message Board Post: > > I am wanting to research my Platt family and wondering if there is a historical society in the area. My ggggrandfather enlisted in the Revolutionary war from Cumberland county according to what I have found thus far. He and his brother both were born in Littlestown, Pa. which I believe is in that area. > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > A quick link to the complete list of PA USGenWeb County sites. > http://www.pagenweb.org/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Did George or John mar Elizabeth Eckert? Do you have any dates? Our Sebastian was born Apr.1806. He mar Elizabeth Funk abt 1825. On their son's death cert. it says Sebastian and Elizabeth were from Middletown. Their spelling was sometimes off back then so it could be Middleton, Cumberland Co. I am looking in both areas. Sebastians sons are Levi, John, Jacob, Solomon, David. Elizabeth is a possibility for being Sebastians sister. I will keep a look out for ? Simons. Thanks, Dru

Looking for any Thumma or Thummy in Southampton Twp., Cumberland Co., PA 1800-1880... thanks..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3001 Message Board Post: Please detail any mills in Cumberland County.

Judith Ann Warner Bookwalter Working file, not all verified Last update: April 7, 2002 1. __________ GEORGE b. d. bur. [source: mar. Catherine _____ b. d. bur. [source: 2. John S. GEORGE b. 7-Oct-1856 d. bur. [source: 2. Caroline GEORGE b. 11-Mar-1858 d. bur. [source: 2. Susann GEORGE b. 20-Nov-1859 d. bur. [source: 2. Ard S. GEORGE � my great-grandfather b. 28-Mar-1861 d. bur. [source: mar. Martha Anna GARLAND � my great-grandmother b. 16-Mar-1862 d. bur. [source: 3. Daniel Cochran/Charles GEORGE � my grandfather b. 29-Apr-1896 d. 3-Aug-1961, RD5, Carlisle bur. Letort/Kutz Cemetery note: survived by 19 gc, 6 g-gc [source: gravestone; obit; mar. Mabel Alma MORRISON � my grandmother b. d. bur. Letort/Kutz Cemetery [source: gravestone; 4. Wilbur Franklin GEORGE b. 01-Feb-1919 d. Feb-1974, 54y, Carlisle bur. Letort/Kutz Cemetery military: Marine in the Pacific in WWII [source: gravestone; obit; m1. Helen SUTCH 5. Kenneth E. GEORGE 5. Donald C. GEORGE 5. Mrs. Victory GEORGE McCLAIN m2. Henrietta BLAIN 5. Georgianna GEORGE 5. Sherry GEORGE 5. Tawna GEORGE 4. Alma GEORGE b. 1918 d. 1985 bur. Landisburg Cemetery [source: gravestone; mar. Lester H. WAGGONER 5. Lester WAGGONER 5. Yvonne WAGGONER 4. Dolly Catherine GEORGE � my mother m1. Marlin Merrill WARNER � my father b. 2-Sep-1920 d. 25-Apr-1951 bur. Letort Cemetery [source: obit; gravestone; 5. Patricia Lee WARNER 5. Judith Ann WARNER 5. Joseph Blain WARNER 5. Gary Allen WARNER 5. Johnny Travis GEORGE m2. Wayne Alfred LOVE 5. Ruth Ann LOVE 5. Susan Marie LOVE 4. Evelyn Marie GEORGE mar. Edmund MELISAUSKAS, Sr. 5. Edmund MELISAUSKAS, Jr. 5. Dennis MELISAUSKAS 4. Rena Gloria GEORGE m1. Charles DELP 5. Marjorie �Dee-Dee� DELP 5. Jody DELP 5. Charles �Buddy� DELP m2. Barry SMITH 2. Mariah GEORGE (twin) b. 20-Apr-1863 d. bur. [source: 2. Catherine GEORGE (twin) b. 20-Apr-1863 d. bur. [source: 2. Harvey S. GEORGE b. 2-Aug-1865 d. bur. [source: 2. Julian GEORGE 18-Jun-1867 b. d. bur. [source: ===== Judy Warner Bookwalter (Conner Crull Garland Garlin George Goodhart Harglerode Kough/Koch Leighty Morrison Riggleman Smith Warner Zimmerman) I put cemetery stone info on http://www.findagrave.com & obits, marriages, births on http://www.pa-roots.com (click on data boards) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

Not sure if this will be of any help or not: A.S. and Martha GEORGE had a son, Daniel G. GEORGE who lived in Duncannon, Perry Co., PA. in 1918 [at the time of his marriage to Mabel Alma MORRISON b.1901 in Kennedy's Valley] I don't have birthdates for Daniel G. or his parents - so he may be a brother to your Cloyd William GEORGE?????? Donna HELLER ZINN of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ridenour" <restorer@shentel.net> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Cloyd William George > Greetings to all, > > If anyone has access to the Carlisle newspaper, could you please look up the obituary of Cloyd William George Sr., who died August 17, 1965 in Carlisle? I am trying to determine his parents' names. Supposedly he was born in Perry Co. about 1892, and his daughter thinks his mother's name was Sophie. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated...I would be willing to reimburse for time and expenses. > > Many thanks, > > Tom > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Search this mail list. > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Greetings to all, If anyone has access to the Carlisle newspaper, could you please look up the obituary of Cloyd William George Sr., who died August 17, 1965 in Carlisle? I am trying to determine his parents' names. Supposedly he was born in Perry Co. about 1892, and his daughter thinks his mother's name was Sophie. Any help would be greatly appreciated...I would be willing to reimburse for time and expenses. Many thanks, Tom

Saw your e-mail, and am wondering if your Heffelfinger's ancestors were related to a William P. Heffelfinger (b. 3 Mar 1841, d. 24 Sep 1917) who married Elizabeth Ann Byers (b. 4 Mar 1841, d. 2 Feb 1914). Be believe they lived in Newburg, Cumberland Co., PA... Carol elk Grove, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <PACUMBER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PACUMBER-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 6:00 AM Subject: PACUMBER-D Digest V03 #50

In the process of tracing Simons, I have come across a John Simmons in Hogestown in the 1886 Hy of Cumberland and Adams Cty. Since my Simons were in Landisburg/Tyrone Cty (19 miles away) during the early 1800s, I am interested in the following entry, which will explain the ECKERT connection. "JOHN SIMMONS, farmer, P.O. Hogestown. The Simmons family originated in Germany, and immigrated to this country at an early date. George Simmons, a farmer by occupation and the father of John was born near the line of Dauphin and Lebanon counties, Penn. He married Miss Elizabeth Eckert, daughter of John Eckert, of the same locality. To them were born six children: Catherine, John, Jacob, George, Samuel and Elizabeth. About 1824, the father moved to and settled in this county. He was a Republican in political opinions, a hardworking and upright man. John Simmons, our subject was brought to this county by his parents when he was a child. He grew up on the farm, and received a common school education..." I wonder if the Geo referenced could be my ggggrandfather b abt 1797, served in War of 1812.

Dauphin Co. was created from Lancaster County in 1785. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn White" <intrees@pacifier.com> To: <PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [PACUMBER] census > Dru, > > I don't know about Dauphin Co. being Lancaster at this time. Maybe a more > knowledgeable person could answer this question. The census records do show > it as Dauphin Co. > > I did find these two entry's for 1820 and 1830 that look promising, going > by the ages shown. > > > JACOB ECKERT > 1820 Dauphin Co., PA > Derry Twp. > M33_102 Page 110 > > Males 0 - 10 - 3 > 16 - 25 - 1 > 45 + - 1 > > Females 0 - 10 - 2 > 10 - 16 - 2 > 26 - 45 - 1 > > JACOB ECKERT > 1830 Dauphin Co., PA > Londonderry Twp. > M19_151 Page 134 > > Males 5 - 10 - 1 > 10 - 15 - 1 > 50 - 60 - 1 > > Females 15 - 20 - 1 > > > I hope this gives you something further to check out. > > Carolyn Campbell White > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DRU2250@aol.com [mailto:DRU2250@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:17 AM > To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] census > > > Carolyn, > > In 1820 (age 6) and 1830(age 10), does it show another Eckert in > Londonderry that could be Sebastians father? He has been my brick wall. > Also, would it be Dauphin then, or Lancaster? Thanks again, Dru > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Search this mail list. > Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dru, I don't know about Dauphin Co. being Lancaster at this time. Maybe a more knowledgeable person could answer this question. The census records do show it as Dauphin Co. I did find these two entry's for 1820 and 1830 that look promising, going by the ages shown. JACOB ECKERT 1820 Dauphin Co., PA Derry Twp. M33_102 Page 110 Males 0 - 10 - 3 16 - 25 - 1 45 + - 1 Females 0 - 10 - 2 10 - 16 - 2 26 - 45 - 1 JACOB ECKERT 1830 Dauphin Co., PA Londonderry Twp. M19_151 Page 134 Males 5 - 10 - 1 10 - 15 - 1 50 - 60 - 1 Females 15 - 20 - 1 I hope this gives you something further to check out. Carolyn Campbell White -----Original Message----- From: DRU2250@aol.com [mailto:DRU2250@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:17 AM To: PACUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] census Carolyn, In 1820 (age 6) and 1830(age 10), does it show another Eckert in Londonderry that could be Sebastians father? He has been my brick wall. Also, would it be Dauphin then, or Lancaster? Thanks again, Dru ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== Search this mail list. Just type in pacumber or PACUMBER. http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Carolyn, In 1820 (age 6) and 1830(age 10), does it show another Eckert in Londonderry that could be Sebastians father? He has been my brick wall. Also, would it be Dauphin then, or Lancaster? Thanks again, Dru

Thanks so much Carolyn! Dru