I am not related to the Dill family, but have some information from St. Stephen (Longsdorf) Lutheran Church, New Kingstown, Cumberland Co. PA, from my search for 6th great grandparents Michael Hawk and Henry Longsdorf, who were, with your Michael Dill, founders of St. Stephen's. From "Longsdorf-St. Stephen Luthern Church History" by Dr. Charles Glatfelter Nov. 17, 1985 "Michael Dill was an elder in this church in 1771 and in 1762 lived in Carlisle." Source Cumberland Co tax records. Referring to the parcel from whence came the donation of the two acres given to found the St. Stephen Church "In 1769...William Bell sells a parcel to Michael Dill." From County deeds, "In 1772, Michael Dill and John Reinick helped widow Wittmer (Mrs. Christoffel Wittmer)to acquire this very large property." Also in the baptisms in Carlisle for Rev John Conrad Bucher Several Dill baptisms: Born Jan 5, 1766 Bapt Jan 25, 1766 Susannah, daughter of Michael Dill and Maria Elisabeth. Witnesses: Mary Elisabeth Schneyder. Born Jan 29, 1767 Bapt May 24, 1767 Johan Michael, son of Michael Dill and Maria Elisabeth. Witnesses: Jacob Carl, and Christina. Michael Dill and Maria Elisabeth were witnesses to the baptism of Elisabeth dau of J. Christian Sensenbach and wife Mary Margaretha, Elisabeth was born Aug 22, 1766 bapt. Aug 31, 1766. That's all I have-you may want to check online for Zeamer's readings of Longsdorf Cemetery, which still exists on the original two acres of property given to the church or contact St. Stephens Lutheran Church, Box 266 New Kingston PA 17078. They sent me the photocopies that I quoted from above, but my request did not include the Dill family. Hope this helps. Terry Moss [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: PACUMBER-D Digest V06 #36

Jan, I haven't run into any of those names yet, but the problem is FINDING MARRIAGES in Cumberland Co. I have looked at one thin book that allegedly covers marriages from 1761, but I have serious doubts about it being complete. I was, however, perhaps looking for marriages earlier that what you need, since I was interested only in marriages before 1780. I'll try to check on those names next time I'm at the library. Do you know when that church was established, by the way? Does anyone know of a more complete source for early Cumberland marriages, or whether there was a nearby county that was commonly used as a place for runaway marriages? Any suggestions at all would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Graham Louer

John, There is a book that covers the years 1750 - 1753 and the years 1762 - 1767, although many townships were omitted for 1767, due to "space limitations". In addition, the Mormon Church has a film (# 427426) for the years 1762 - 1829 (I don't know if there are any missing years), but evidently only for the townships Middleton, South Middleton and Dickinson. The Church also offers a fiche(s) --#6045241-- with this title: State of the accounts of the collectors of excise, for Cumberland Co, from the 10th of August 1774 ... until the 20th of January 1783 If you, or anyone, knows of any tax lists for the approximate years 1767 through 1789, particularly for Middleton and West Pennsboro Townships, or their offspring, I would very much like to hear of them. Thanks, Graham Louer FLEMING, GIFFIN, McCLURE, YOUNG in Cumberland Co.

The document says "On the same survey plat for the above John Kennedey was a plat of what was called a "Private Survey" for George Smith's land dated 30 Oct 1765. This survey of about 61 acres did not adjoin the above 227+ acre survey. We found that the 61 acre survey adjoined the eastern boundary of the 233 acre and 98 perch Patent and part of that adjoining boundry line {for 32.3 perches} adjoined John Smith's "interference" tract that is embedded in the 233 acre and 98 perch survey." Questions: "interference" tract meaning and Private Survey meaning? These answers would help to understand the land situation. Thank You Judy Smith/Colorado . -- "I hear their whispers; etheral, soft and still. Daughter, if you don't remember me, who will?"

Two definitions... * Land with questionable boundaries or boundaries that overlap or interfere with one another (usually at adjoining corners or access roads). * Land that can only be accessed by crossing through or on the edge of a neighboring tract. Interference tracts always go for cheaper prices then access tracts. Think of it as two neighbors sharing a common lane or driveway. The neighbor whose land is at the beginning of the driveway/lane would have the access tract. The neighbor whose land is at the end of the driveway/lane would have the interference tract. Teresa > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:00:47 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Land question > > Would anyone know what an "interference" tract is? > Time period about mid-1700's. There are only two lasting gifts that we can give to our children. One is Roots, the other Wings. http://www.flottgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3490 Message Board Post: Looking for help with an obituary for Peter Dill died May 3, 1858 or his father Michael Dill who died in 1815/16 in Cumberland County. Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wootton, Barker, Fessler, McCain, Keneipp,Raiford, Horn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3489 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on George W. Fessler, merchant, and family recorded in the 1860 census in Cumberland county, PA. I'm interested in parents, wife's maiden name (hope it's Olwine or something similar), and source for marriage records of George & Mary and birth records of children, esp. youngest-- William and Henry P. I also have them in the 1870-1880 census in Harrisburg, PA (new wife Margaret, 2 new children).

Would anyone know what an "interference" tract is? Time period about mid-1700's.

If the word is in a sentence in a document, can you quote the sentence. That might help identify it. Ame [email protected] wrote: >Would anyone know what an "interference" tract is? Time period about mid-1700's. > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? >http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=118:1:9715852903400528014 > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brooks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3488 Message Board Post: Our family (from Path Valley, Franklin Co) has a tall case clock signed T. Brooks. There was a Thomas Brooks, clockmaker, in the Carlisle Gazette issue of 5 May 1802. Can anyone tell me more about this man?

My family has two instances of the bridge and groom venturing to a third county, where many of the bride's relatives lived. This was in Michigan, 1828 through 1865...grandparents owned a farm in the third county. I also have a marriage in 1791, when the groom married in the town 2 miles from home; the bride wasn't from the town, but had relatives there. The towns were in the same county, however. Given the mobility of the society in those days, I don't believe it was that unusual. Cheers, Julia Julia Mosman, OPC for St.Austell,Charlestown, and Treverbyn Website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~staustell W. Briton newspaper transcripts at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wbritonad Please visit the OPC website at http://cornwall-opc.org I'm a volunteer for FreeCens - why don't you join, too? >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PACUMBER] Bride's/Groom's Church ? >Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:15:40 EST > >If anyone could provide some insight on this for me, I'd appreciate it. > >Today, it is more traditional for a couple to marry at the bride's church. >Assuming the bride and groom lived in differing counties at time of >marriage, >would they have married at the church of the bride or the groom ? > >Thanks. Jeannie in NC > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Jeannie It's my research experience that even in later dates 1870's and 1880's- where there are more complete records - that many times teh mistister's returns state that teh marriage was at teh home of teh bide's father or moterh or friend of even teh groom's - I think the ebt you can gernalize was teht marriages in those days were in teh hi=ome and not at teh church - Church building were meant for small neighborhood congraations - so where would you have a hoe - down- or a broom jumping?? In the barn!! best regards Paul Pettit ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Bride's/Groom's Church ? > Should have specified that the time frame I was wondering about the time > from > between 1770-1820. > > ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: shimp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/454.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol, I have a Shimp line that I'm trying to research right now. I ran across your posts and I'm wondering if your husband's line and mine might cross. My line includes a John Shimp & Rachel DeHaven; their son Isaac Shimp married Sarah Shutts; their daughter Rachel Ann married John Leroy Jewell...etc. The line goes all the way back to a Johann Jacob Schimpf & Christinia Mayer, but I haven't found any solid resources to back it up. Would love to hear what you've found, if this is even related to your hubby's shimps :o) Thanks, Wendi

Regarding early tax records for Pennsylvania, Franklin County taxes would be listed with the Cumberland County records since it was not established as a separate county until 1784. However, the place for you to do your research would be the published Pennsylvania Archive series. This is a series of about 130 volumes (some three inches thick) that were published in the late 1800s, and there are tax lists for all of the early Pennsylvania counties. The archives also cover many other topics including about a dozen volumes listing all of the Revolutionary War veterans by name and many by military company or regiment. All major libraries in PA would have this series on the shelves. And I am certain that many of the large Maryland libraries would also have this set of books.

While looking for my Brown & Quigley lines in Cumberland I found the Young and McClures. They were all in the same churches, Middle Springs Presbyterian. I have a Wesley Quigley born about 1810 whose married Nancy Cantland Davis, widow of Samuel Davis, a physician. Nancy and Wesley Quigley had twins, William Young Quigley and Nancy Quigley. I am looking for a Young that married into the Quigleys. Do you have any of these Brown's, Josias or Alexander, any Young married to a Quigley. I wouuld like to share what I have if the Young's match. Thanks, Jan O'Brien

I am hoping to make contact with anyone researching these families: GIFFIN-GIFFEN-GIVEN, especially Andrew who was living in Cumberland Co in the mid 1700s. FLEMING, anyone of this family living in Cumberland Co in the mid to late 1700s. McCLURE, anyone of this family living in Cumberland Co in the mid to late 1700s. YOUNG, anyone of this family, but especially James or Samuel, living in Cumberland Co in the mid to late 1700s. Have much to exchange on all of these families, though slightly less on Giffin and Young. Lots of questions though. Thanks, Graham Louer Frisco, TX

Should have specified that the time frame I was wondering about the time from between 1770-1820.

If anyone could provide some insight on this for me, I'd appreciate it. Today, it is more traditional for a couple to marry at the bride's church. Assuming the bride and groom lived in differing counties at time of marriage, would they have married at the church of the bride or the groom ? Thanks. Jeannie in NC

The bride, and very possibly at the bride's home, or the home of one of her relatives. [email protected] wrote: >If anyone could provide some insight on this for me, I'd appreciate it. > >Today, it is more traditional for a couple to marry at the bride's church. >Assuming the bride and groom lived in differing counties at time of marriage, >would they have married at the church of the bride or the groom ? > >Thanks. Jeannie in NC > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi, Does anyone have a marriage for John Hume and Margaretha Redenbaugh in Cumberland Co in 1805? The Redenbaughs were reportedly in Cumberland County for a few years on their migration from Berks County to Hamilton Co OH. Their children were baptized in Berks County in a Lutheran church, so that is where I would expect to find a marriage. Thanks for any help. Sharon Mills