I checked the 1880 census and found in Bedford Twp., Bedford County: David GARDNER Self M Male W 60 PA --- --- Catherne GARDNER Wife M Female W 58 PA --- --- Jennie GARDNER Dau S Female W 28 PA Segar Maker --- --- Celia GARDNER Dau S Female W 17 PA --- --- Julia GARDNER Dau S Female W 14 PA --- --- David GARDNER GSon Male W 15 PA --- --- George GARDNER Son S Male W 10 PA --- --- Fred GARDNER Son S Male W 8 PA --- --- I also found: Philip GARDNER Self M Male W 35 PA Laborer PA PA Mary GARDNER Wife M Female W 34 PA Keeping House IRE IRE David GARDNER Son S Male W 14 PA At School PA PA Agnes GARDNER Dau S Female W 11 PA At School PA PA James GARDNER Son S Male W 7 PA At School PA PA Girtie GARDNER Dau S Female W 5 PA PA PA Louisa GARDNER Dau S Female W 3 PA PA PA John GARDNER Son S Male W 1 PA PA PA Amelia GARDNER Dau S Female W 1 PA Pa PA PA Those are the only two Gardner housholds in Bedford that have Daves or Davids in them. I also searched for all Garners in PA born between 1811-1815 and that yielded no Daves, Davids, or D. Gardners. The first household above indicates that David was born about 1820, so it is likely that someone either misrecorded or misstated an age or birthdate. -- Ted

I don't know if this is helpful... According to the Heritage Quest Online's census index, these are the Gardner listings for Cumberland in 1800, 1810, 1820: GARDNER JONATHAN JR PA CUMBERLAND TOBOYNE 1800 GARDNER WILLIAM PA CUMBERLAND ALLEN 1800 GARDNER DAVID PA CUMBERLAND MIDDLETON TWP 1810 GARDNER JOHN PA CUMBERLAND TOBOYNE TWP 1810 GARDNER PHILIP PA CUMBERLAND MIDDLETON TWP 1810 GARDNER WILLIAM PA CUMBERLAND ALLEN TWP 1810 No Gardner listings were shown in 1820 Cumberland; one is shown in Bedford: GARDNER ABRAHAM PA BEDFORD COLERAIN 1820 I pulled up the all the index listings for 1820 Carlisle, Cumberland Co., PA, and did not find even a "mangled" version of Gardner. Maybe one of the 1810 listings is a possibility. Good luck with your search! Debra On May 2, 2006, at 8:26 PM, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Gardner > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3511 > > Message Board Post: > > David Gardner b 1813 Carlisle d 1907 Bedford PA > Possibly Irish Catholic; Obit lists him as resident of Greencastle > but death cert.says born in Carlisle - was he there just for his > birth? Death Cert also does not list parents -my brick wall ! > > As a young man David was teamster on Balto-Pittsb. Pike. Settled in > Bedford abt. 1839 until passing at age 94. > Any info re this person greatly appreciated, esp. parents of David > R Gardner, my ggrandfather. Thanks !! > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=118:1:9715852903400528014 > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2999.2.1.4 Message Board Post: agness ervin died 1806 is probably daughter of James Armstrong died 1771,June, in Cumberland Co.Pa..Will mentions daughter Agness married to an Andrew Ervin.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gardner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3511 Message Board Post: David Gardner b 1813 Carlisle d 1907 Bedford PA Possibly Irish Catholic; Obit lists him as resident of Greencastle but death cert.says born in Carlisle - was he there just for his birth? Death Cert also does not list parents -my brick wall ! As a young man David was teamster on Balto-Pittsb. Pike. Settled in Bedford abt. 1839 until passing at age 94. Any info re this person greatly appreciated, esp. parents of David R Gardner, my ggrandfather. Thanks !!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3293.1 Message Board Post: Hi Kristen, We shared the same last name and I was wondering if your Skinner line has any connection to Skinners' in NC. also your Collins line which I have in my line also they originated from the eastern shore of va. but also migrated to the lower eastern shore of md. Any Connection? Thank you Lois

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KENOYER KNOYER KANWYER KENOWER KNAUER GNARR CANAWYER CONOYER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/601.2239.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in the KENOWER line in Cumberland Co., PA. I am assisting another researcher. I have a David KNOYER / KENOYER / KANAWYER born about 1820 either in PA, OH or IN. Did any of the KENOWER's in Cumberland Co., PA, go to Indiana?? He marries Susanne Pfoutz in Cass County, IN, in 1848. In the 1850 census they are living in Miami Co., IN. They name their first-born son Jacob, born about 1850. Looking for his possible ancestry.

"In the Letters of 27 March 1783, Administration Account of the Estate of William Smith, Yeoman, deceased" York County, Huntington Township, it states: Cash paid - 1. Samuel Laird for making dec'd coffin - 3"10".0 2. Charles Boner for appraising - 3"0"0 3.John Miller - 1"10"0 4. Francis Boner for Stockings - 9""15"0 - and further skipping down the list Thomas Black for making part of the Ten_?? around the graveyard - 11"5"0 Could anyone tell me what the stockings were or why they would have cost over 9 pounds, what did Thomas Black do and - where the graveyard may be located? William Smith, his son James Smith, and John Smith all lived in north Huntington Township, of York County, near the Cumberland county border. They, along with their wives, Elizabeth E., Elizabeth and Margaret may all be buried in the same graveyard. Other's named in the estate settlement: John Thompson George Smith David Maltomise or Waltomise Daniel Griest Mary Brandon George Robinet Joseph Dodds Robert Wiley Henry Borgholder John Brandon David Stockton Elizabeth Bracken Thank You Judy Smith/Colorado

To PJ Dennis, Do you have a family tree posted anywhere? My husband is the one who is directly decendant from Robert Culbertson and Anne Duncan. Are you decended from Anne's brother? I guess we are waiting with baited breath for Pat Bristley's "three page write up". I hope he can post it for us. [email protected] -----Original message----- From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:26:02 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetson/Duncan of Cumberland County PA. > Pat Bristley---Hello > Tried to contact you directly but your e mail address is returned > as "invalid" > Anne Duncan wife of Robert Culbertson is a cousin and I would be very > interested > in reading your "three page write up". > Cheers > pjd > [email protected] > 4/25/06 > > >> > >>> Message Board Post: > >>> > >>> I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born > > 23 July > >>> 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in > > Cumberland > >>> Co., PA. They had 12 children. > >>> > >>> Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret > > Culbertson, > >>> presumably in Cumberland Co., too. > >>> > >>> Pat Bristley > >>> > >>> e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Lou, Our Anne Duncan is not connected to Duncanon Pa. that I am aware of. Her last name was Duncan.Keep searching!!! Margie -----Original message----- From: "Dallago, Lou" [email protected] Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:43:59 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S > Was Anne Duncanon, in any way involved in the settling of Duncannon Pa > in Perry county? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margie Duncan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County > Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S > > I am researching the Duncan, Culbertson, Breckenridge and Jack's > families. My husband is a direct decendant of Robert Culbertson and > Annie Duncan. . Please reply. I would be very interested in your three > page write up if you would be so kind as to e-mail it.Thank you in > advance. > [email protected] > -----Original message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:57:57 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County > Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S > > > I would be interested in a copy of this if you have it in an > electronic > > format which could be emailed. I am researching NICHOLSON'S, > DUNCAN'S, > > CULBERTSON'S, JACK'S pre Revolutionary War in Cumberland County, PA. > Thanks. Anne > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born > 23 July > > > 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in > Cumberland > > > Co., PA. They had 12 children. > > > > > > Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret > Culbertson, > > > presumably in Cumberland Co., too. > > > > > > Pat Bristley > > > > > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Need to find a location?? > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=118:1:9715852903400528014 > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Pat Bristley---Hello Tried to contact you directly but your e mail address is returned as "invalid" Anne Duncan wife of Robert Culbertson is a cousin and I would be very interested in reading your "three page write up". Cheers pjd [email protected] 4/25/06 >> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born > 23 July >>> 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in > Cumberland >>> Co., PA. They had 12 children. >>> >>> Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret > Culbertson, >>> presumably in Cumberland Co., too. >>> >>> Pat Bristley >>> >>> e-mail: [email protected] >>>

Was Anne Duncanon, in any way involved in the settling of Duncannon Pa in Perry county? -----Original Message----- From: Margie Duncan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S I am researching the Duncan, Culbertson, Breckenridge and Jack's families. My husband is a direct decendant of Robert Culbertson and Annie Duncan. . Please reply. I would be very interested in your three page write up if you would be so kind as to e-mail it.Thank you in advance. [email protected] -----Original message----- From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:57:57 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S > I would be interested in a copy of this if you have it in an electronic > format which could be emailed. I am researching NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S, > CULBERTSON'S, JACK'S pre Revolutionary War in Cumberland County, PA. Thanks. Anne > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born 23 July > > 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in Cumberland > > Co., PA. They had 12 children. > > > > Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret Culbertson, > > presumably in Cumberland Co., too. > > > > Pat Bristley > > > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== Need to find a location?? http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=118:1:9715852903400528014 ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I am researching the Duncan, Culbertson, Breckenridge and Jack's families. My husband is a direct decendant of Robert Culbertson and Annie Duncan. . Please reply. I would be very interested in your three page write up if you would be so kind as to e-mail it.Thank you in advance. [email protected] -----Original message----- From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:57:57 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACUMBER] Re: Culbetsons of Cumberland County Penna/NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S > I would be interested in a copy of this if you have it in an electronic > format which could be emailed. I am researching NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S, > CULBERTSON'S, JACK'S pre Revolutionary War in Cumberland County, PA. Thanks. Anne > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born 23 July > > 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in Cumberland > > Co., PA. They had 12 children. > > > > Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret Culbertson, > > presumably in Cumberland Co., too. > > > > Pat Bristley > > > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit Cumberland County USGenweb and get the latest updates! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacumber/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I would be interested in a copy of this if you have it in an electronic format which could be emailed. I am researching NICHOLSON'S, DUNCAN'S, CULBERTSON'S, JACK'S pre Revolutionary War in Cumberland County, PA. Thanks. Anne > Message Board Post: > > I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born 23 July > 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in Cumberland > Co., PA. They had 12 children. > > Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret Culbertson, > presumably in Cumberland Co., too. > > Pat Bristley > > e-mail: [email protected] >

Hi, Terri: Is this your Peter Hess? Series: M593 Roll: 1333 Page: 566 1870 - Bloserville P.O., West Pennsboro Twp., Cumberland Co., PA - 8/11/1870 Wise, John - 35 - m - w - huckster - $---/340 - PA --- Rebecca - 67 - f - w - keeping house - $1,500/--- - PA Hess, Peter - 32 - m - w - farm laborer - $---/375 - PA --- H.A. - 39 - f - w - keeping house - PA The household shown before the above listing is that of Fred & Isablle Goodhart; the household following the Wise/Hess listing is that of William & Harriet Bishop. Good luck with your search! Debra On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: HESS, GOODHART, BISHOP > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3510 > > Message Board Post: > > Our Hess family moved into Cumberland County PA after 1840. They > came from Berks County, PA. Jacob and Mary had 8 children. I am > directly descended from Mary Ann Hess b. 6 May 1830 who married > John Benjamin Hocker. I have their descendents. I'm currently > trying to put the siblings of Mary Ann and their families together > and this is what I have. > David Hess born 1825, Lydia Hess born 1827, Jacob Hess b. OCt 1828 > married Eliza?. Anna Elizabeth Hess b. 10 Mar 1832 married Cyrus > Anson Goodhart. > Thomas Hess b. 1836 married Agnes Drucilla Goodhart. Peter Hess b. > 1839 (can't find him after 1860) and finally Margaret b. 7 Jan 1841 > married Lewis Bishop. > Most of these children seemed to have stayed in Cumberland and had > many children. Mostly girls. > I would love to know if their are Goodhart and Bishop descendents > that may have family info to share or pictures from the late 19th > and early 20th century's. > > Jacob Hess' ancestry is well documented but who is his wife Mary? > She could possibly be Polly Bilfeld but there is another dead > end. Polly was the most common nickname for Mary. And where did > their son Peter go after 1860? There was a war about to take place. > > Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me > directly at [email protected] > Terri Ryker Lloyd > > > ==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HESS, GOODHART, BISHOP Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3510 Message Board Post: Our Hess family moved into Cumberland County PA after 1840. They came from Berks County, PA. Jacob and Mary had 8 children. I am directly descended from Mary Ann Hess b. 6 May 1830 who married John Benjamin Hocker. I have their descendents. I'm currently trying to put the siblings of Mary Ann and their families together and this is what I have. David Hess born 1825, Lydia Hess born 1827, Jacob Hess b. OCt 1828 married Eliza?. Anna Elizabeth Hess b. 10 Mar 1832 married Cyrus Anson Goodhart. Thomas Hess b. 1836 married Agnes Drucilla Goodhart. Peter Hess b. 1839 (can't find him after 1860) and finally Margaret b. 7 Jan 1841 married Lewis Bishop. Most of these children seemed to have stayed in Cumberland and had many children. Mostly girls. I would love to know if their are Goodhart and Bishop descendents that may have family info to share or pictures from the late 19th and early 20th century's. Jacob Hess' ancestry is well documented but who is his wife Mary? She could possibly be Polly Bilfeld but there is another dead end. Polly was the most common nickname for Mary. And where did their son Peter go after 1860? There was a war about to take place. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Please contact me directly at [email protected] Terri Ryker Lloyd

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3113.3 Message Board Post: I have a 3 page write up on a Col. Robert Culbertson, who was born 23 July 1755, and d. 26 July 1801. He married Anne Duncanon 6 May 1778 in Cumberland Co., PA. They had 12 children. Also Anne's brother, William Duncan Jr. marriage a Margaret Culbertson, presumably in Cumberland Co., too. Pat Bristley e-mail: [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3216.2 Message Board Post: I am interested in any info on William Boyd who m. Elizabeth Blythe (d/o Col. Benjamin Blythe) before 1780. According to info I have William Boyd was b. in 1757 in Letterkenny Twp., Cumberland Co. (although I think it is now in Franklin Co.) PA. His parents may have been John and Mary Boyd. They were both still living when Elizabeth's father made his will in Oct 1801. My e-mail is: [email protected] Pat Bristley, Fremont, OH

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bernhard, Iseli, Baumbardner, Kring Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/546.548 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Jacob or Jakob Bernhard who married Anna Elisabeth Iseli, daughter of Hans and Anna Barbara Baumgardner. Anna Barbara was daughter of Johan and Elizabeth Kring Baumgardner. Possible connection here since Elizabeth Kring's father was also a lay minister of Evangelical Church in Cambria Co., PA. One son, Conrad Kring became Evangelical Minister and moved to Columbus Ohio area. He was an itinerent preacher.

Folks: I forgot to mention that also on Saturday, April 29th at The Harry Lenig Library [aka Perry Historians] at 9:15 a.m. .... the first 5 of the limited edition [of the numbered 300] Vol. IV of The Perry Co. Schoolhouses will be auctioned off to the highest bidders. Vol. IV covers those school houses in New Bloomfield and Carroll and Center Townships. Not only will the author of the school house books, Margaret Roddy Becker be on hand to sign her books, but also several other authors as well. Wayne E. Taylor, author of "Hope on the Tuscarora". A novel based on local historical facts - the destruction of Fort Bigham in the Tuscarora Valley [Juniata Co.) by the Indians on 11-Jun-1756 and captivity and subsequent return of Robert Taylor. Karl Fox, author of "Dauphin County Cemeteries". A GPS and map guide to the many burial grounds in Dauphin County. Ruth Eby whose late husband, Eugene Eby published in 1987 an in-depth study of "Perry County Grist Mills" The Book Signing session will be from 9:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m.

Tony, There is no mention at all of an Andrew Bushey in the Lower Bermudian records, nor is there one buried in their graveyard, unless the stone is missing. There is also no stone for William. There are two mentions of William Bushey in the Edna Albert translation of the church records: p. 40 William Bushey & Elisabeth (parents) Sarah Jane (child) b. 27 April 1843, c. 16 July 1843. p. 133 Confirmed on Easter Sunday 1777 Rudolph, Nicolaus, and Wilhelm Buschy, sons of Nicolaus. (ages 17, 16, and 15, respectively.) These are obviously two different Williams. There are plenty of other Busheys in those records, and many in the graveyard. I am interested in the Nicloaus Buschi who is in the Lower Bermudian records with a wife named Catharina, and a child b. 13 July 1763. The sponsors were "Johannes Cranester and Barbara". I would like to find out if Catharina Buschi is the daughter of Johannes and Maria Barbara Chronister, or if they were unrelated. Peggy Reeves Burtonsville, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Bushey/Buschi Andrew and William > Has anyone sorted this family out enough to tell me if there is a > relationship between > Andrew Bushey b. 1795 , lived Cumberland Co, went to Ohio > and > William Bushey b. abt 1808, lived Warrington twp., York > > I strongly suspect the connection lies through Lower Bermudian Church. > > Tony