This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533.2.1.1 Message Board Post: That makes sense. There are a lot of Dull, Doll, Diehl, etc... in PA, so the birthdate becomes critical. There is a John Dull b. 5-20-1753 PA who married Elizabeth Putnam, according to the DAR Patriot index (which is not necessarily proven). My ancestor is listed as Peter Diehl in the Patriot Index, but was Johann Peter Diehl, b. 8-8-1761 PA. The children are: Elizabeth, Daniel, Catherine, George, Sarah, Anna Mary (my ancestor), Adam, Susanna, and Jacob. With the variations of this last name, there are a lot of possibilities for "Peter" and/or "Johann" (John). Because of the birthdate of your Johannes, I think it is possible he may be one of the "John Dull" 1812 soldiers with service records listed at ancestry. There are two. It may be the same man who served in two different PA regiments. NARA may have a pension and/or bounty land records for that soldier(s) if you're lucky. But they are closed right now and probably will be for the rest of the week, due to the flooding that we had in D.C. You might want to check Virgil White's 1812 pension index book and see if there is a John Dull listed in it, in case you want to pursue those records later.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dull Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533.1.1 Message Board Post: I have thought of those possibilites. But I have a copy of a Land Deed from Christopher Dull to his sons, Peter, Joseph and Christopher in 1791, Washington Twp, Franklin County, PA. Someone else said that Christopher's father was Christopher (Stoffel) Dull/Doll. So, I am looking for answers. How much difference in your Peter's children's names then mine?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dull Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533.2.1 Message Board Post: Yes, I transposed the birthday on Johann (John) Dull. It should read 1782 not 1728. It's called fumble fingers.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533.2 Message Board Post: Peter, b. 1758, could not be the father of someone b. 1728.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dull, Diehl, Deal, Dahl Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533.1 Message Board Post: I have a couple of Peter Diehl's/Deals who are descendants of John Deal of Berks Co PA. His son Peter was born in 1758 but has different names for the children. You have German given names, so the Dull spelling is suspect. Maybe it was Dahl, even. I can send more on the Peter I have, if you are interested. Sharon Mills

I have a copy of the Bible pages of a Jacob Gingerich, born 1790 in Dauphin Co. He married Maria Herr. Later he moved to Snyder/Union County. The following are the Bobbs names from the Bible pages. The Old Testament Translated out of The Original Hebrew and With the former translation diligently compared and revised Together with the Apocrypha Done by the Special Comman of King James I of England Philadelphia MC Carey & R.IPA (?) Chesnut Street 1824 ================================================================================ Family Records - Births Childrens names ----- Susann E. Bobb was Born January the 10, 1867 at Br John Miller Powels Vallay Dauphin Co., PA ----- Mary E. Bobbs was Born November the 16th 1869 at the twin taverns, Jack Clarks valley(?) Dauphin Co. Pa ----- Cora Malinda Bobbs was born March the 4th 1871 in Dauphin, Dauphin Co at Mrs. Minskes(?) House ----- Wm. H. Bobbs was born February 28, 1823 in Selinsgrove, Snyder County PA in Jacob Gingrich house. ----- Family Record - Deaths Mariah Gingerich departed this life September 11th 1872 aged 33 years 2 months remains were interred in the New Cemetery Funeral discourse delivered by the Rev. Haas. Ritten by William H. Bobbs. ----- Cora M. Bobb departed this Life July the 19th 1878 Her age 7 years 4 months and fifteen Days Funeral Discourse by _______ ----- Margaret C. Coleman the daughter of Michael & Susan Bobbs Departed this August the 6th 1873 aged years months days She died a Christian in Christ.Jesus our redeeming Saviour Her Last Words where as follows : Sweet Jesus ----- Cora M. Bobbs departed this Life July the 19th 1878 was born March the 4th 1871 in Dauphin Dauphin county Penn. Her age was 7 yrs 4 months & 15 days. Buried at the family farm(?) grave yard. Funeral Serman by the Rev. Krecker (?) Job 2 Ch 21 [email protected] wrote: >There are quite a few Bobb families in the areas of Silver Spring, Monroe, >etc townships in the early 1800's. > >Can anyone give a hint about how they may be related? > >Some that I know of are of this period: >John Bobb b. 1793 md 1816 to Margaret Longsdorf >Michael Bobb md 1817 to Elizabeth Eichelberger >Henry Bobb b. ca 1783 md to Maria [they came from York] >George Bobb md to Elizabeth >John Bobb b. 1780 d. 1818 > >The above appear to be about the same generation, then there is: > >Nicholas Bobb md to Catharine, >He appears to be about the same genreation as several Bobbs, such as Adam >Bobb, who are found in the Christ Lutheran churchbook in York. > >Thanks >Tony > > >==== PACUMBER Mailing List ==== > Visit the USGenWeb PA Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: IRVINE, IRVING, HOCH, SAXTON, SEXTON, CALLENDER, WEAVER, RAMSEY, REED, DUNLAP, HELFENSTINE, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/2999.2.1.4.1.1.2 Message Board Post: My ggg grandmother SARAH HOCH (mrs MICHAEL SAXTON) was sister to your EVE HOCH who married ARMSTRONG IRVINE. I am confused by the parents of ARMSTRONG IRVINE since you say they are ANDREW ERVIN and AGNESS ARMSTRONG. I have the father as GEN WILLIAM IRVINE and ANN CALLENDER, but I am probably wrong; can you straighten me out on this? There is an interesting reference to your ancestor ARMSTRONG IRVINE in a book on EARLY PENNSYLVANIA DIVORCES by THROOP, mentioning the divorce of my ggg grandmother SARAH HOCH SAXTON from her husband MICHAEL SAXTON. Your ARMSTRONG IRVINE, her brother in law, represented her in court. Here is the reference: Throop: Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Divorces 1789-1860, p. 23. "Nov. 1823 #175 - Oct 11, 1823 - petition of Michael Saxton of East Pennsboro Township, Cumberland Co., Pa. He married in 1810 Sarah (Weaver?) [Sarah's first husband was Weaver, according to the same book, mw] and he accused her of adultery. Nov. 8, 1823 - subpoena to Sarah Saxton for the first Monday of Jan 1824. Jan 10, 1824. Joseph Shields, Sheriff of Cumberland Co. Pa. reported that he served the subpoena on Sarah Saxton. Jan 10, 1824 - subpoena issued to Sarah Saxton for the first Monday of April 1824. ibid., p. 42 April 1828 #207 - Aug 11, 1828 - petition of Sarah Saxton by her brother-in-law and next friend Armstrong Irwin before Archibald Ramsey, Justice of the Peace for a divorce from Michael Saxton. They were married in the month of Dec. 1809. He maliciously deserted her over two years ago. Sarah signed "by mark." Throop: Cumberland Co Pa Divorces 1789-1860, p. 42 cont'd from footnote 145. Aug 11, 1828 - Subpoena issued to Michael Saxton for Nov. 1828 term. March 28, 1829. Subpoena issued to Michael Saxton to appear in court on the second Monday of April 1829 at 10 o'clock in the forenoon. [Note: this subpoena calls Armstrong Irvine Sarah's father in law, rather than her brother in law, as stated in the Aug 11, 1828 petition.] April 20, 1829 - Subpoena issued to Michael Saxton to appear in court the second Monday of August 1829 at ten o'clock in the forenoon. (Note: This subpoena also calls Armstrong Irvine the father in law of Sarah Saxton.) April 13, 1830. John Irwin, deputy Sheriff reported that he served the April 20, 1829 subpoena personally on Michael Saxton June 29, 1829. On this same date the Sheriff of Cumberland Co. Pa. Martin Dunlap Esq. reported that the April 20, 1829 subpoena on Michael Saxton was served but he failed to appear in court on the second Monday of August 1829 as he was supposed to do. The Court therefore appointed William Irvin as commissioner to take testimony to be heard in the case. April 14, 1830. 'In pursuance of the annexed Commision from the Court of Common Pleas of Cumberland County personally appeared Henry Hough a witness on the part of Sarah Saxton the complainant. And being duly sworn according to law doth say that he was personally present at the time of the marriage of Michael Saxton and his sister now Sarah Saxton and that they were marryed [sic] by the Reverent Mr. Helfenstine (?) about twenty years ago or thereabouts. That the said Sarah and Michael Saxton lived together about 16 years perhaps less and that she the said Sarah was turned out of house and home about three years ago and since that time they have lived separate and apart from each other she supporting herself and the family of five children. Said deponent doth further say that said Michael sayed [sic] that he would not do nothing for her and deponent doth say that he has frequently heard said Michael speak very disrespectfully of his wife, and that as far as he knows or belie! ves that said Sarah always conducted herself well towards said Michael and was an industrious and faithful wife to him and knows of no reasonable cause for his separation from her. Said deponent doth say that he has frequently heard said Michael cursing his wife and abusing her so as to tender her life burdensome. Sworn and subscribed before me April 14, 1830.' Signed by William Irvine and Henry Hoch. [note he is referred to as Henry Hough in the beginning of this. I am using the spelling Hoch because that is the way he signed his name, and also because that is the way it is spelled in the census of 1810 when Henry Hoch sr and jr live "next door" (at least next in the census list; I am assuming the census taker went door to door in an orderly fashion) to Michael Saxton in Middleton Twp. mw 5/96] May 8, 1830 - depositon 'in pursuance of the annexed Commission personally came before me the Commissioner therein named being a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, Rebecca Smith who being sworn according to law doth depose that she is the daughter of Sarah Saxton the within named applicant by her first husband John Weaver, now deceased. Deponent resided with her mother the said Sarah Saxton from the time of her marriage with Michael Saxton her present husband till the time of deponent's marriage with her husband Charles Smith in the month of December 1828 since which time deponent's said mother has resided with deponent and her husband. In the month of February 1826 the said Michael Saxton left the house in which he and his said wife had before that time resided. At the time of his departure he told his wife and said in the presence of deponent that he would go and never return and that his said wife might go to Hell and be dammed and go for her self (sic), he then went away and since that time has never returned to reside with his said wife. For several years before he left his said wife as aforesaid he treated her with great cruelty by scolding and calling her approbrious names and frequently threatening to hurt her, thereby rendering her life burdensome as deponent believes that the said Sarah was a duti! ful affectionate and good wife to the said Michael as deponent verily believes and that his rash will and barbarous conduct to her and his family absenting himself (illegible word), was and is without any just cause as deponent believes. Sworn and subscribed before me May 8th 1830." signed by Rebecca Smith and William Irvine. Throop: Cumb. Co. Pa Divorces 1789-1860 p. 43. cont'd May 8, 1830 - deposition 'Also personally came Sarah Ann Saxton who being sworn according to law doth depose that she is a daughter of Michael and Sarah Saxton within named. That deponent was present when her said father left his said wife, and his family upwards of four years since. He said he would go and never return, and that his wife the said Sarah might go to hell and be damned, that he would do for himself and she might do for herself. He then went away and has not since returned to his said wife and family. Deponent has since resided with her said mother ever since and she has not since seen her said father. Before her said father left home as aforesaid for several years he treated his said wife very cruelly by calling her approbrious names and threatening to beat her, and a short time before he went away deponent heard him threaten to burn the house over the heads of his wife and family, if they would not move out of it. That the said Sarah wife of the said Michael ! always behaved and conducted herself towards her said husband as a dutiful wife, as deponent believes and his withdrawing from his said wife and family as aforesaid was without any just cause as deponent verily believes. Sworn and subscribed before me May 8th 1830. Signed by Sarah Ann Saxton and William Irvine. May 11, 1830 - Court Granted a divorce for Sarah Saxton. ========================================== transcript by marcia wilson from a photostat of the actual document sent to mw by jean dawson may 2003: APRIL TERM 1828 No. 207. To the Honournable the Judges of the courts of common pleas of the county of Cumberland, the petition or libel of SARAH SEXTON by ARMSTRONG IRVINE, her Father in Law [her sister Eve HOCH was married to Armstrong Irvine - mw] and next friend Humbly Sheweth: That in the month of December in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and nine your Petitioner or libellane was lawfully joined in the bonds of Matrimony with a certain MICHAEL SEXTON her present husband and from that time until about two and half years since, hath lived and cohabited with him and hath in all respects demeaned herself as a kind and loving wife and although by the laws of God as well as by the mutual vows plighted to each other they were bound to Cherish and assist each other yet the said MICHAEL SEXTON in violation of his marriage vows and of his duty hath wilfully and maliciously and without any reasonable or Justifiable Cause deserted and absented himself from the habitation of your petitioner as libellant for and during the time and space of two years and upwards immediately preceeding the fileing of this [live?] petition or libel and further that the said MICHAEL SEXTON in violation of his duty as aforesaid by his Cruel and barberous trea! tment has rendered her life [burthersom?] and has thereby forced her to withdraw from his house. Your Petitioner or libelant therefore prays your honour to award a subpoena directed to the said MICHAEL SEXTON commanding him to appear at the next term of this Honourable Court or at such other time as your honours may appoint to shew cause if any he has why your petitioner or libellant should not be divorced from the bonds of Matrimony. And your Petitioner or libellant by her said next friend will pray, etc. [signed] ARMSTRONG IRVIN CUMBERLAND COUNTY SS [Since?] the subscriber a Justice of the peace of said County personally came the above named SARAH SEXTON and being sworn accordint to law doth depose that the facts stated in the foregoing petition or libel are true to the best of her knowledge and belief and that the said [deponent?] is not [acting?] out of [levity?] or by [?] between her and the said Michael Sexton and for he purpose of being freed and separated from each other, but in Sincerity and truth for the cause mentioned in her said peition or libel. [signed] SARAH SAXTON her X mark Sworn & Subscribed the 11th August 1828 Before Archibald Ramsey 11th Aug’t 1828 Subp. awarded returnable to November term next by the Court Exit subjs N.E.I. Shff #0”99 Exit alias subpoena Returnable 2nd Monday of Aug’t 1828 Shff#0”99 Served Personally on the 29th June 1829 Shff#1”96 1st April 1830 on Motion of [can’t read] William Irvine Esquire appointed to take the testimony to be heard in this case. By the Court. 1st Ap’l 1830 John Irwin Esquire Deputy Sheriff Va{?} appeared in open court and stated to said court upon oath duly administered that the Supoena Returnable to August term 1829 on the said MICHAEL SAXTON personally the 29th day of June 1829 (see subp for affit). And now to wit 11 May 1830 WILLIAM IRVING esquire the Commissioner appointed by the court on the 15th April last, to take the Testimony in support of the Complaint of the Libellant made report and returned the Depositions and Testimony taken by him which were read and ordered to be filed. whereupon the Court having duly considered the prayer of the said Petitioner or libellant and the evidence taken and Exhibited in support thereof as aforesaid and now filed do order sentence and decree, that SARAH SAXTON the Petitioner or libellant be divorced and seperated from the Nuptial ties or bonds of Matrimony between her and the said MICHAEL SAXTON, that that all and every [tho?] duties rights and claims accruing to either of the said Parties at any time heretofore in pursuace of the said Marriage shall cease and deetermine and the said Parties shall Severally be at Liberty to marry again in the like manner as if they never had been married 11th May 1830. By the Court {signed} JOHN REED Shff Dunlap $2.95 Clk McCoy $1.50 Do Houlke $1.50 DO harper $0.81 [TOTAL] $6.76 ------------------------------------------------

There are quite a few Bobb families in the areas of Silver Spring, Monroe, etc townships in the early 1800's. Can anyone give a hint about how they may be related? Some that I know of are of this period: John Bobb b. 1793 md 1816 to Margaret Longsdorf Michael Bobb md 1817 to Elizabeth Eichelberger Henry Bobb b. ca 1783 md to Maria [they came from York] George Bobb md to Elizabeth John Bobb b. 1780 d. 1818 The above appear to be about the same generation, then there is: Nicholas Bobb md to Catharine, He appears to be about the same genreation as several Bobbs, such as Adam Bobb, who are found in the Christ Lutheran churchbook in York. Thanks Tony

in the USGenWeb archives, just posted the complete 1790 census WITH an index. Admin reminder....... When a message is posted to the list with an Ancestry Message Board number eg. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3532.1 As the poster may not be on this mail list, it would be a kindness to send a separate copy to the poster or post to the ancestry board [a copy will appear on this list] Sender's Address is in the incoming message. Thanks Joe

From Beers' "History of Cumberland County," pg 353: "At this time there was very little improved land between Mount Holly and Carlisle. In 1812 a paper-mill was erected by William Barber on or near the site of the mill now owned by the Mullin brothers. It was subsequently owned by Messrs. Barber & Samson Mullin, the grandfather of the owners of the present mill. It afterward passed into the hands of Messrs. Knox and McClure, and was burned December 26, 1846. The present mill was then erected in the succeeding year by Wililam B. Mullin, the father of the present owners. This earlier paper mill was the first ever erected at Mount Holly Springs. Paper making now became the chief industry of the place, so that the name Holly Iron Works was rarely applied to it, but it everywhere began to be known by the name of Papertown." Anita Camplese > > Subject: > Re: [PACUMBER] Papertown, PA? > From: > "Donna Heller Zinn" <[email protected]> > Date: > Mon, 3 Jul 2006 10:00:07 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > > Hello again folks: > > I believe that "Papertown" is actually the southern end of what is now Mt. > Holly Springs. Is this correct? > > There is no listing for Papertown in the 4th Edition of the Pennsylvania > Line. > > Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:46 PM > Subject: [PACUMBER] Papertown, PA? > > > >> One of my relatives is listed as being born in Papertown, PA does this >> > sound familiar to anyone? >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Milligan, Adams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3534 Message Board Post: John MILLIGAN WAS A PRIVATE IN THE Cumberland County Milita and served during the revolutionary war. Records indicate they lived on the Willow Tree Farm in Cumberland County. Does any one have any information on the existence of ths place. Mary Adams family may have perhaps lived in Cumberland County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3532.1 Message Board Post: Dates I am interested in is from 1842 to about 1863.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JaB.2ACE/3531.1 Message Board Post: Yes, Papertown was one of the names for Mount Holly Springs, Cumberland Co. There was a large paper mill there.

In a message dated 7/3/2006 11:00:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > One of my relatives is listed as being born in Papertown, PA does this sound familiar to anyone? I found some references to Spring Grove in York County being called Papertown: _http://www.springgroveboro.com/history.htm_ (http://www.springgroveboro.com/history.htm) _http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:84focIhtSvoJ:w2.ydr.com/story/riotmike/6 936/%3FPHPSESSID%3D08bf42cbb457862ae48280c253140f3f+history+%22spring+grove%22 +york+pa+papertown&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1_ (http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:84focIhtSvoJ:w2.ydr.com/story/riotmike/6936/?PHPSESSID=08bf42cbb457862ae4 8280c253140f3f+history+"spring+grove"+york+pa+papertown&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd =1) I hope this will be helpful. Rae

Mt Holly Springs was called "Papertown" on the South Middleton map in the 1858 Cumberland County Atlas.

Hello again folks: I believe that "Papertown" is actually the southern end of what is now Mt. Holly Springs. Is this correct? There is no listing for Papertown in the 4th Edition of the Pennsylvania Line. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Papertown, PA? > One of my relatives is listed as being born in Papertown, PA does this sound familiar to anyone?

Good Mornin' Fellow LIsters: For Birth Registers prior to 1906, you'll have to go to the Cumberland County Court House.... or the Historical Society / Hamilton Library. Birth Registers and Death Registers were kept by the Counties in Pennsylvania from about 1852-1855 and then again from about 1893-1906. Each county may be a little different. What year are you searching for? If the date does not fall between the listed dates then you will need to find Church or Bible Records for proof. Best Wishes.... Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:47 PM Subject: [PACUMBER] Boiling Springs birth records > > Does anyone know where to write for a birth record for Boiling Springs prior to 1906? Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3519.4 Message Board Post: Please email me at [email protected] John Duncan connects to my husband's family. Thank you. Joy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dull Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JaB.2ACE/3533 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the following family. I am looking for Peter's parents/grandparents. And any other information I can get. Peter Dull, ( 5th Gr-Grandfather ) Born: abt 1758 Cumberland Co, Pennsylvania Died: abt 1815 Bedford Co, PA Married: Elizabeth Children: John (Johann) Dull, Born abt 1728, Died abt 1824 ( 4th Gr-Grandfather ) Adam Jacob, Sr Daniel Susannah Christopher Joseph Mary Catherine George John (Johann) married Anna Maria, St Clair Twp, Pennsylvania Children: Henry, born 04/26/1803, PA , died 10 08 1864 Ohio ? ( 3rd Gr-Grandfather ). Martin Emanuel Sylvester Andrew Anna Marier Matilda Julia Ann William Henry Charles John