Forwarded from the message boards. If you can help, please respond back to the board through the link listed below: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hershelman, Hirschelmann, Herschelmann, Shartle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TdB.2ACI/1038.2.1 Message Board Post: Frank (1854-1924) is the grandson of Johann Jakob Hershelman (Hirschelmann) 1803-1887 and Maria Elisabetha Hill 1803-1880. In an interview with Roger Sargent, David Elmer Hershelman, Frank's grandson, said Eliza had Frank Hershelman out of wedlock in 1854. She later married Fred Blystone. (Frank is a first cousin of Clark Gable's mom, Adeline.) 1880 census has Franks' in-laws living with them: Frank HERSHELMAN Self M Male W 26 PA Farmer PA PA Fanny L. HERSHELMAN Wife M Female W 20 PA Keeping House PA OH Jacob H. HERSHELMAN Son S Male W 2 PA PA PA Henry SHARTLE FatherL M Male W 47 PA Carpenter PA PA Margarett SHARTLE MotherL M Female W 40 OH Keeping House OH PA E-mail me directly and we'll tie you into the family. I'd love to further confirm your family's branch. Sandy Hershelman hershelman@olympus.net http://www.sandyhershelman.com