For five years, I have watched discussion about the Nelson family on this listserv, but have never been able to make a connection with my own research. Can anyone help? EMILY NELSON, my great-great grandmother, was born on May 11, 1849 and married ISRAEL TAYLOR GRAHAM in 1869. Emily Nelson Graham died on August 29, 1914, and Israel Taylor Graham died May 3, 1927. They are both buried in Conneautville Cemetery. From the 1850 Census, I believe that Emily Nelson was the daughter of ROBERT W. NELSON (b. 5/11/1849 in Pennsylvania) and Mary S. Fish (b. 1814 in New York). I recently obtained a copy of "History of Crawford County" from the mail-order loan library through the New England Historic and Genealogical Society, but unfortunately due to my limited knowledge of my Nelson family connection, it did not help my research. Lisa Bail Kailua, HI baill001@hawaii.rr.com

Wanted to take a few minutes to apologize for not saying Thank You, sooner, to Pete, Todd and Kathy for their replies and help. The information was just what I was hoping for and more besides!! Between trying to get ahead at work and getting ready for the trip, I haven't had as much time to work on the family ties as I had hoped. I feel confident now that I can find the cemetery and stones with little problem. As far as getting to the library or courthouse, I doubt if time will work for me. We are staying in Meadville overnight but have a 7 hour trip ahead of us for that day. Any descendants of Robert (b ca 1773) and Ruth Bennett out there? South Shenango Township. If so please reply would like to ask a few questions. Thanks for the help and extraordinary effort! Kandi

Forwarded from the message boards. Please respond back to the boards through the link below: ********************** This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Belle, Morris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TdB.2ACI/1789 Message Board Post: Seeking info on Leah Belle Morris (circa 1890), from a Polish-Jewish neighborhood in a county near the Ohio border/Youngstown area. She was my maternal great-grandmother--died when my grandmother Ada was 6, in 1918--Ada was adopted by the Weir family in Youngstown area.

Kandi writes: >In early May my husband and I will be passing through Crawford County, is anyone on the list familiar with Espyville cemetery? >I would like to take photos of Humphry [yes, DAR marker for war of 1812] and Harriet [yes, only 15 when she died] CRAM's tombstone(s) but won't have time to "search" for it. Is there a caretaker/sexton? Cemetery records? >My husbands great great grandfather was Fred Espey BENNETT b 12/28/1868 Hartstown Crawford Co. to Robert Henry Bennett b. 7-15-1826 PA and Maria(h) Cram b.January 1830 Ohio daughter of Humphry and Harriet Cram. >I have no idea which of the Bennett families in Crawford County are the parents of Robert Henry. in the 1880 census he lists both parents as born in PA also. >In the 1850 census I believe he may be listed with Ruth Bennett age 56 as head of household in South Shenango Twsp >In the 1860 census he is listed in South Shenango Twsp with wife Maria children Adolphus, Charles and Wm. >In 1870 they are in Sullivan County Missouri and have children A(dolphus) Roscoe, Charles O, Frank A, and Fred Espey. William must have died between 1860 and 1870 and may be buried in Crawford Co.[there is a William, buried in S. Shenango Twp Cemetery, d. 4.21.1854 aged 55y2m29d.] Robert's occupation is listed either as lumberman or miller. Any clues here from the other Bennett researchers would be greatly appreciated. > > Hi, Kandi... Espyville is my family's hometown as well and I have ancestors buried in both the Espyville and Wilson cemeteries there. The index (alphabetical) of the Espyville Cemetery was published in the Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Quarter (Pittsburgh, PA) in Vol. 6, No. 2 (Nov 1979), pp.76-109. I have a copy of it and of the Wilson Cemetery index. The indexes will tell you who is there, but not where. Before going, you might like to take a look at a late 19th century map of Espyville. I have reproduced it. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~petelois/index.htm, scroll to the bottom, and select "Espyville." I give you a "Tour" of Espyville. At Frame 8 you will be at the old Methodist Church, which is at the edge of the Espyville Cemetery. Suceeding frames take you to Cram Road and the Wilson Cemetery, and where the first home on the right, which has a trailer park built around it, was the Wilson house and was the Cram house when I last visited there. Frame 18 contains a map and index of residents of Espyville in the late 1800s. Enjoy the tour of Espyville. Be sure to supply up before getting there. No accommodations. Not even a traffic light. Talk about small. It has fewer residents and homes than in the 19th century. Luckily, the lake, built in the 1930s to supply industry in Pittsburgh with year round water, did not engulf the town. Also, I have embedded comments in your original message (above). Pete Wilson -- Pete Wilson of Spotsylvania Courthouse, Virginia Founder Portable Oxygen: A User's Perspective <http://www.portableoxygen.org> Feature Article: Results: Oxygen Therapy Survey <http://www.portableoxygen.org/april2004.html>

Hi In early May my husband and I will be passing through Crawford County, is anyone on the list familiar with Espyville cemetery? I would like to take photos of Humphry and Harriet CRAM's tombstone(s) but won't have time to "search" for it. Is there a caretaker/sexton? Cemetery records? My husbands great great grandfather was Fred Espey BENNETT b 12/28/1868 Hartstown Crawford Co. to Robert Henry Bennett b. 7-15-1826 PA and Maria(h) Cram b.January 1830 Ohio daughter of Humphry and Harriet Cram. I have no idea which of the Bennett families in Crawford County are the parents of Robert Henry. in the 1880 census he lists both parents as born in PA also. In the 1850 census I believe he may be listed with Ruth Bennett age 56 as head of household in South Shenango Twsp In the 1860 census he is listed in South Shenango Twsp with wife Maria children Adolphus, Charles and Wm. In 1870 they are in Sullivan County Missouri and have children A(dolphus) Roscoe, Charles O, Frank A, and Fred Espey. William must have died between 1860 and 1870 and may be buried in Crawford Co. Robert's occupation is listed either as lumberman or miller. Any clues here from the other Bennett researchers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Kandi Stark Reeder

I think the Heritage Quest census link discussion has been worked over enough. Please do not respond or create any more messages along this subject line. Let's get back to looking for our ancestors. Teri List Admin

OK list: enough of the back/forth about this subject. Everyone has an opinion and are entitled to it; however, let's just let this "dog" lie and get back to the business of inquiring about our Crawford Co ancestors. I know I can't stand more days on end of this "bickering".

It is certainly not stealing. And it is still free, as I am using it as this very moment! We all owe a big THANK YOU to the person who brought this valuable site to our attention. Jeffrey Blystone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam & Larry" <pam_larry@adelphia.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > Hello, > > Maybe I am naive, but I had no idea that this was considered "stealing". I > don't understand how you knew this. As far as I was concerned you clicked > on some links and used the site. No one asked me for a password or login, > so I thought it was available as a internet service. I checked it out a bit > last night and today am unable to access it , but would be willing to pay > for the valuable information I scanned briefly through. How do you become a > member of this site? > Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Graham" <Lindag1947@comcast.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > > > > I agree. My public library offers Heritage Quest to its card holders, and > > you can obtain a card (if you do not live in my county) for 35.00 a year. > > This is SO much cheaper than Ancestry.com, and they have census indexes > that > > Ancestry doesn't have. My library requires your library card number to > > enter the Heritage site, which is as it should be. I hope we would be > > willing to pay for a card to a nearby public library in order to access > such > > a valuable database. Linda in Utah > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > > > > > > ** Reply to message from "K Lynch lynchairedales@earthlink.net" on Tue, > 30 > > Mar > > 2004 22:27:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > > > > >Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money > > (the > > amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. > > If > > you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the > > library. > > Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have > > restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a > lot > > of > > their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. > We > > do > > not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a > > bad > > name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of > > money, we will loose access to a lot more. > > > > That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for > > only > > 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. > > > > -- > > Robert Blair > > > > -- > > Robert Blair > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > This List is dedicated to Crawford County, Pennsylvania. If have a > problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact Teri > off list at sanchoinc@houston.rr.com > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject and Message > area to: PACRAWFO-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? Replace "L" with "D". > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello, Maybe I am naive, but I had no idea that this was considered "stealing". I don't understand how you knew this. As far as I was concerned you clicked on some links and used the site. No one asked me for a password or login, so I thought it was available as a internet service. I checked it out a bit last night and today am unable to access it , but would be willing to pay for the valuable information I scanned briefly through. How do you become a member of this site? Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Graham" <Lindag1947@comcast.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > I agree. My public library offers Heritage Quest to its card holders, and > you can obtain a card (if you do not live in my county) for 35.00 a year. > This is SO much cheaper than Ancestry.com, and they have census indexes that > Ancestry doesn't have. My library requires your library card number to > enter the Heritage site, which is as it should be. I hope we would be > willing to pay for a card to a nearby public library in order to access such > a valuable database. Linda in Utah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > > > ** Reply to message from "K Lynch lynchairedales@earthlink.net" on Tue, 30 > Mar > 2004 22:27:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > > >Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money > (the > amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. > If > you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the > library. > Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have > restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a lot > of > their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. We > do > not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a > bad > name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of > money, we will loose access to a lot more. > > That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for > only > 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. > > -- > Robert Blair > > -- > Robert Blair > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Crawford County, Pennsylvania. If have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact Teri off list at sanchoinc@houston.rr.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

It's a real blessing and they're lucky to have it! Jan G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances" <fkeenan@goldrush.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:19 AM Subject: [PACRAWFO] census link > Our library pays HeritageQuest over $ 600 a year for its card holders to use > the site. That is why it is free to only card holders in its area. > Frances > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

** Reply to message from "JWB jwb@surferie.net" on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:26:26 -0500 > Are you kidding me? If using a Web site is considered "stealing" where you > are from, I truly hope I never visit that deep, dark corner of the world. No I am not kidding you. Are you a resident of Delta County? Do you have a library card for the Delta County Library? If you answer yes to one of those questions then you probably would have permission to use the web site. If you answered no then in my opinion you are stealing. It appears from another message to this list that you can no longer access Heritage Quest from the libraries web page which implies that the library also thinks it is stealing and has restricted outside access. -- Robert Blair

Our library pays HeritageQuest over $ 600 a year for its card holders to use the site. That is why it is free to only card holders in its area. Frances

I have to put in my 2 cents worth here...........about going through a library to access Heritage Quest. Here in TX you can go there through the TX state library site, just using your local library's access code, which is freely given.........ALL it costs is for you to have a library card. Which is a lot cheaper than $35.00 a year. So ask your local library. Sharon

If your local library has a subscription to it, yes, that will work. There's two differences in the situation. The Godfrey Library is a private library, I believe. Not a small local library. And it specializes in local histories from all over the country and even the world, though mostly the international histories are British. I have seen French and Spanish language books there, also. Secondly, it would be free or almost so if you live in CT. I live in CA. And my local library does not have a subscription. So, Godfrey works just fine for me. It's a good idea to check your local libraries--it's very possible you can get HQ for free with a card. But, short of that, Godfrey is a terrific on line source. Jan G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tdsfw@aol.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > I have to put in my 2 cents worth here...........about going through a > library to access Heritage Quest. Here in TX you can go there through the TX state > library site, just using your local library's access code, which is freely > given.........ALL it costs is for you to have > a library card. Which is a lot cheaper than $35.00 a year. > > So ask your local library. > > Sharon > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Jeffrey, Heritage Quest is something that the library pays to subscribe to. It's for library members only, as it should be. In fact, it's probably part of their contract with HQ that it not be free except for in-library use. This is not the first time that someone has found a way to access some library's database through a flaw in their website. In the past, the flaw has been found quickly and then the free ride ends. As much as I wish we could all access this stuff for free all the time, that isn't the case. It's expensive to get and maintain the system and servers and to get the stuff for us to access. I expect to pay something for that. And $35/year is so cheap, it's incredible that we can get access for that. I'm just thankful. Just as I'm thankful for the countless times that someone on a list such as this has given generous help--for free. You can consider it ok or theft, whichever your conscience tells you. Either way, it will probably be coming to an end soon. Jan G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JWB" <jwb@surferie.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > Are you kidding me? If using a Web site is considered "stealing" where you > are from, I truly hope I never visit that deep, dark corner of the world. > > Jeffrey Blystone > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:32 AM > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > > > > Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money > (the > > amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. > If > > you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the > library. > > Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have > > restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a > lot of > > their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. > We do > > not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a > bad > > name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of > > money, we will loose access to a lot more. > > > > That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for > only > > 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. > > > > -- > > Robert Blair > > > > -- > > Robert Blair > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

If there was a link to Heritage from that site it no longer exists. Please look for yourself if you don't want to take my word for it. Then, could we all get back to helping each other with our family trees, O.K.? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Graham" <Lindag1947@comcast.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > I agree. My public library offers Heritage Quest to its card holders, and > you can obtain a card (if you do not live in my county) for 35.00 a year. > This is SO much cheaper than Ancestry.com, and they have census indexes that > Ancestry doesn't have. My library requires your library card number to > enter the Heritage site, which is as it should be. I hope we would be > willing to pay for a card to a nearby public library in order to access such > a valuable database. Linda in Utah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > > > ** Reply to message from "K Lynch lynchairedales@earthlink.net" on Tue, 30 > Mar > 2004 22:27:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > > >Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money > (the > amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. > If > you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the > library. > Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have > restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a lot > of > their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. We > do > not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a > bad > name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of > money, we will loose access to a lot more. > > That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for > only > 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. > > -- > Robert Blair > > -- > Robert Blair > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Crawford County, Pennsylvania. If have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact Teri off list at sanchoinc@houston.rr.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I agree. My public library offers Heritage Quest to its card holders, and you can obtain a card (if you do not live in my county) for 35.00 a year. This is SO much cheaper than Ancestry.com, and they have census indexes that Ancestry doesn't have. My library requires your library card number to enter the Heritage site, which is as it should be. I hope we would be willing to pay for a card to a nearby public library in order to access such a valuable database. Linda in Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link ** Reply to message from "K Lynch lynchairedales@earthlink.net" on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:27:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00) >Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money (the amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. If you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the library. Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a lot of their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. We do not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a bad name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of money, we will loose access to a lot more. That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for only 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. -- Robert Blair -- Robert Blair ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Yes. The URL is www.godfrey.org. It's a wonderful resource and for only $35 per year, and incredible bargain. Take a look at what 's available there--which they still continue to expand. I'd much rather support a library. And NOT support the big on-line genealogy database monopoly. Jan Garland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <ropetracer@prodigy.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > I joined Godfrey Library (in CT) last year and access their resources on a > daily basis. They provide a wonderful resource at an affordable cost. > Plus, I feel like my small payment helps them continue to obtain other > genealogical resources to help others! > > Barb > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Are you kidding me? If using a Web site is considered "stealing" where you are from, I truly hope I never visit that deep, dark corner of the world. Jeffrey Blystone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <94lte2a02@sneakemail.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] Census link > Where I am from that is considered stealing. It costs the library money (the > amount depending on the usage) to have that available for their customers. If > you are not a member of the library do not use it with out joining the library. > Other people have done this to other libraries and those libraries have > restricted the access to only the computers in the library which hurts a lot of > their members because they can no longer access the web site from home. We do > not need to steal time on other peoples facilities as this only gives us a bad > name. If we don't pay our own way, because these web sites cost a lot of > money, we will loose access to a lot more. > > That said you can join the Godfrey Memorial Library which has access for only > 35.00 dollars a year. Go to http://www.godfrey.org/ and join. > > -- > Robert Blair > > -- > Robert Blair > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I joined Godfrey Library (in CT) last year and access their resources on a daily basis. They provide a wonderful resource at an affordable cost. Plus, I feel like my small payment helps them continue to obtain other genealogical resources to help others! Barb