Lucy, Kathleen, and all - do you know there is a very active Rootsweb list called PADUTCHgenONLY that deals exclusively with the genealogy of the people from the area (SE Pa) you are talking about? This includes many who originated in Alsace. If you would like to join it, send email to PADEUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com put only the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message, no subject, no signature. Jan lucy@cet.cet.com wrote: > > I just wanted to Thank everyone for the response on the Stokes line > and mention a book that I recently found that was helpful regarding > German descendants . The Saeger and Graff family's of the Saegertown > area originally started off in the North Alsace region before > emigrating to the Lehigh Co.- Egypt area. A great book is- > > 18th. Century Emigrants from North Alsace to America > > by Annette Kunselman Burgert > > 974.8004 > > The book has maps of the area plus additional references to both > American and European records in regards to emigrants from that > region. > > So if you find that your relatives came circa 1825's to the > Saegertown area ...they may have been with the German group from > Lehigh Co. with Daniel Saeger, S. Balliet and the Graff's. > > Sincerely, Kathleen Whelpley > > lucy@cet.com > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal > and exclusion from this mailing list. Spam crashes our servers and we have > to take a stand. For comments or list administration questions,please > Barbara Farthing Bonham msb@myfamily.org -- Janice Frank <janiceaf@ix.netcom.com> Researching names: BISCHOFF, DIETRICH, FRANCK/FRANK, KELLER, KUNZ/KUNTZ, LUPHER/LUPFER/LUPER, SCHULTZ/SHULTZ, TAYLOR

Odie, Thanx much for the offer. I have so little on the Grinnell Family that anything you can send me on the Ancestors of Mary Grinnell would be simply fantastic. A gedcom would be just super great. TIA for any further info you might send. If you need info on the descendants of Mary I will be glad to send that to you. Merle W. Kuhn odie wrote: > > Hi, I sent this also to BEV. Ruth GRINNELL sister to Benjamin GRINNELL > was my 4th Great Grandmother!! Glad to learn of a new cousin!! If there is > anything you want me to look up in the GRINNELL family books let me > know!!!!!! > Sharon > odie@pathwaynet.com > > ---------- > > From: odie <odie@pathwaynet.com> > > To: BJHErie@aol.com > > Subject: grinnell > > Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 1:29 PM > > > > Hi Bev, > > I haven't forgotten you, I am having problems with my computer. > > Next week it will probably have to go into the shop.. :-( > > for how long, I don't know.... :-( > > > > This is what I have on Benjamin GRINNELL from the Grinnell family book. > > > > Benjamin GRINNELL b. 20 Aug. 1811 at Tioga Co., Pa. died: 13 March 1890 > at > > Pa. Married 1st: Lucinda STALEY 1828 in crawford co., Pa. She was born > Jan > > 1812 at Crawford Co., Pa. Lucinda died: 1864. > > They had 16 children: > > 1. John Elliot b. 27 July 1829 died: 11 jan. 1896 > > 2. Samuel B. 11 April 1831 died: 15 Sept. 1906 > > 3. Squire B. Oct. 1834 died: 1908 > > 4. Laura B. March 1836 Crawford Co., Pa d: childhood 1842 at Pa. > > 5. Dennis b. 1 April 1838 d. 3 June 1913 > > 6. Morris B. b. 19 nov. 1839 d. 26 June 1882 > > 7. Mark b. 29 Aug. 1841 d: 15 Oct. 1920 > > 8. Dinah Anne b. 17 July 1843 d: 25 June 1928 > > 9. Jesse b. April 1845 Crawford co., Pa. > > 10. Gideon H. b. 2 Feb. 1847 d: 20 Nov. 1914 Married: Emma DANIELS > > 11. Loretta b. 3 dec. 1848 > > 12. Abigail C. b. 15 aug. 1850 d: 30 Aug. 1913 > > 13. Samantha b. 22 Oct. 1851 > > 14. Rachel b. 3 Oct. 1853 d: 8 April 1944 > > 15. Lodema b. 17 Sept. 1855 d: 6 Jan. 1929 > > 16. Lewis Arthur b. 1 Jan. 1857 d: 4 Jan. 1932 > > > > Benjamin married 2nd to: Harriett HOCUM (?) > > She was born 1823 Pa. > > > > An 1866 Deed indicates a possible 3rd wife "RUTH". The children were all > > born in Crawford Co., PA. > > > > From the GENEALOGICAL AND PERSONAL HISTORY FOR WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA > (1915), > > this excerpt; "Benjamin...purchased a farm in Greenwood Twp. He was very > > successful in its cultivation, but sold it after his children had grown > up > > and purchased a farm in the eastern section of Greenwood Twp. in > > association with Perry STEADMAN (son-in-law) and lived there until his > > death." The demise took place 13 March 1890. > > > > Lucinda STALEY's parents were natives of Dutchess County in New York > State > > and migrated to Crawford Co. > > > > GOD BLESS!!!!! > > Sharon -- "Of All The Things I've Lost, I Miss My Mind The Most" KUHNIE the COON hunter mkuhn@enter.net

Looking for information on Lamarta MITCHEN (MEACHUM) married: 18 March 1834 to Gideon GRINNELL. Lamarta died: 1878. Who were Lamarta's parents, brothers and sisters? Thank-You, Sharon odie@pathwaynet.com

After sending this to Bev I decided to send it to the list also. I hope it is infomative to someone else. Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO-L] Fwd: grinnell etc Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:36:27 -0400 From: "Merle W. Kuhn" <mkuhn@enter.net> To: BJHErie@aol.com References: 1 Hi Bev, I am so glad you decided to send this to the whole list. Morris Grinnell and Margaret Ames were the parents of my GGGrandmother Mary Grinnell Steadman the wife of Henry Pleasanton Steadman who I had known quite well before his death in 1957. I believe the Rachael you wrote about had been married to both Dow Steadman and Perry Steadman both children of James Hull Steadman. The info you sent will fit nicely into my database. Thanx much. Merle W. Kuhn BJHErie@aol.com wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --part0_908036154_boundary > Content-ID: <0_908036154@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi Everyone: > > As I was typing this up to send to someone I thought, I would forward so > everybody could read. Hope somebody can gleen some information! > > If anybody, can shed any light on the parents of LUCINDA STALEY, I sure would > appreciate hearing from them. > > >From the John W. Jordan, ed., "Genealogical & Personal History of Western Pa." > (New York 1915). > > The Paternal grandparents of Mrs. Rachael (Grinnell) (Steadman) Steadman, were >SNIP< > > Stay in touch.....as I enjoy your e-mails. > Bev > > --part0_908036154_boundary-- > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal > and exclusion from this mailing list. Spam crashes our servers and we have > to take a stand. For comments or list administration questions,please > Barbara Farthing Bonham msb@myfamily.org -- "Of All The Things I've Lost, I Miss My Mind The Most" KUHNIE the COON hunter mkuhn@enter.net

I just wanted to Thank everyone for the response on the Stokes line and mention a book that I recently found that was helpful regarding German descendants . The Saeger and Graff family's of the Saegertown area originally started off in the North Alsace region before emigrating to the Lehigh Co.- Egypt area. A great book is- 18th. Century Emigrants from North Alsace to America by Annette Kunselman Burgert 974.8004 The book has maps of the area plus additional references to both American and European records in regards to emigrants from that region. So if you find that your relatives came circa 1825's to the Saegertown area ...they may have been with the German group from Lehigh Co. with Daniel Saeger, S. Balliet and the Graff's. Sincerely, Kathleen Whelpley lucy@cet.com

Could some generous person look up the census information for me on this individual? BRACEY, Clark Pine Twp, Crawford Co, PA 1850 Census pg#194 Thank you, Larry Milligan

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_908036154_boundary Content-ID: <0_908036154@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Everyone: As I was typing this up to send to someone I thought, I would forward so everybody could read. Hope somebody can gleen some information! If anybody, can shed any light on the parents of LUCINDA STALEY, I sure would appreciate hearing from them. >From the John W. Jordan, ed., "Genealogical & Personal History of Western Pa." (New York 1915). The Paternal grandparents of Mrs. Rachael (Grinnell) (Steadman) Steadman, were born in the state of New York, at what is known as Grinnell's Corners. One of their sons, John Grinnell, served in the War of 1812. another son was Benjamin, of further mention. Benjamin Grinnell, father of Mrs. Steadman, was born in Tioga county, New York, Aug 11 1811, and died Mar 13, 1890. He came to Crawford County, Pa., and purchased a farm in Greenwood twp. He was very successful in its cultivation, but sold it, after his children had grown up, and purchased a farm in the eastern part of Greenwood twp. in association with Perry Steadman, and lived there until his death. He married, Feb 18 1830, Lucinda Staley, born in Crawford County, Pa., in 1817, died Jan 8 1864, whose parents were also natives of New York state and settled in Crawford county, Pa. Children of Benjamin and Lucinda (Staley) Grinnell: 1. Samuel, born Apr 11, 1831; married Polly Gelven, both deceased. 2. Squire, born in Oct 1834; married Anna Mattox, both deceased. 3. Laura, born in March, 1836, died at the age of six years. 4. Dennis, born Apr 1 1838; married Melissa Powell, both deceased. 5. Morris, born Nov 19, 1839; married Margaret Ames, both deceased. 6. John born in 1840; married Loretta Billings, both deceased. 7. Mark, born Aug 29 1841; married Nancy Taylor; he is a farmer in Geneva, Pa. 8. Dinah, born in 1843; married Porter Brooks. 9. Loretta, born Dec 3 1843; lives in McKean county; married Abraham Davidson, deceased. 10. Jesse, born in April, 1845, died in infancy. 11. Gideon, born Feb 2 1847; was a farmer, now deceased; married Emma Daniels. 12. ABIGAIL, born August 15, 1850; married Extel Mattox (should be Samuel Extel Mattocks), both deceased. 13. Samantha, born in September, 1851; married Christy Anderson; lives in Greenwood township. 14. Rachael, mentioned above, as the wife of Mr. Steadman. 15. Lodema, born September 7, 1855; and lives in Ohio. 16. Lewis, born June 20, 1857; a farmer at Monroe, Wisconsin; married Esther Grinnell. All of these children were born in Greenwood township, Crawford County, Pa. Enjoy! Bev --part0_908036154_boundary Content-ID: <0_908036154@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: BJHErie@aol.com Return-path: <BJHErie@aol.com> To: odie@pathwaynet.com Subject: Re: grinnell etc Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:03:25 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Sharon: Seems like everywhere I turn, I find different dates for Benjamin's family. This week I found this in John W. Jordan, ed., Genealogical & Personal History of Western Pa. (New York 1915). It's very similar to those write ups I found in Hist. of CCo and Our County & Its People. I will type it for you in case you don't have it: The Paternal grandparents of Mrs. Rachael (Grinnell) (Steadman) Steadman, were born in the state of New York, at what is known as Grinnell's Corners. One of their sons, John Grinnell, served in the War of 1812. another son was Benjamin, of further mention. Benjamin Grinnell, father of Mrs. Steadman, was born in Tioga county, New York, aug 11 1811, and died Mar 13, 1890. He came to Crawford County, Pa., and purchased a farm in Greenwood twp. He was very successful in its cultivation, but sold it, after his children had grown up, and purchased a farm in the eastern part of Greenwood twp. in association with Perry Steadman, and lived there until his death. He married, Feb 18 1830, Lucinda Staley, born in Crawford County, Pa. , in 1817, died Jan 8 1864, whose parents were also natives of New York state and settled in Crawford county, Pa. Children of Benjamin and Lucinda (Staley) Grinnell: 1. Samuel, born Apr 11, 1831; married Polly Gelven, both deceased. 2. Squire, born in Oct 1834; married Anna Mattox, both deceased. 3. Laura, born in March, 1836, died at the age of six years. 4. Dennis, born Apr 1 1838; married Melissa Powell, both deceased. 5. Morris, born Nov 19, 1839; married Margaret Ames, both deceased. 6.John born in 1840; married Loretta Billings, both deceased. 7. Mark, born Aug 29 1841; married Nancy Taylor; he is a farmer in Geneva, Pa. 8. Dinah, born in 1843; married Porter Brooks. 9. Loretta, born Dec 3 1843; lives in McKean county; married Abraham Davidson, deceased. 10. Jesse, born in April, 1845, died in infancy. 11. Gideon, born Feb 2 1847; was a farmer, now deceased; married Emma Daniels. 12. ABIGAIL, born August 15, 1850; married Extel Mattox (should be Mattocks), both deceased. 13. Samantha, born in September, 1851; married Christy Anderson; lives in Greenwood township. 14. Rachael, mentioned above, as the wife of Mr. Steadman. 15. Lodema, born September 7, 1855; and lives in Ohio. 16. Lewis, born June 20, 1857; a farmer at Monroe, Wisconsin; married Esther Grinnell. All of these children were born in Greenwood township, Crawford County, Pa. Stay in touch.....as I enjoy your e-mails. Bev --part0_908036154_boundary--

Hello fellow Stoke/Stokes researchers. Enclosed is a census index breakdown for the family in PA. I would like to know if anyone has answers to the following: 1. Does anyone have an cemetery index to whom is buried in the Venango Twsp. Cemetery- regarding the Stokes ? I know that Frederick and Sarah Stokes , Lovinia Stokes Muckinhaupt are there..but is anyone else ? 2. Somewhere along the line I had the information that a John ( son of George ) and Margaret nee Peters Stokes settled in Venango Twsp. in 1804 from Union County , Pa. It was stated that they had 12 children. John was b. 1780 d. 10 June 1861 at age 81. Margaret b. 1780 d. 27 January 1876 at age 96. Does anyone have the obits - from the newspaper and /or other sources on these people. I would like to know the name of their children. I also had listed a Elizabeth Stokes who married a David Fullerton in 1847. 3. The census index indicates the first group being in Crawford Co. area in the 1830- John , Jacob and George.. no John is showing up there in the 1810 or 1820 census index. 4. My branch is the Frederick Stokes- and his death cert stated place of birth as Venango Co. in 1820...so maybe they were there and missed showing up on the 1820 census. 5. It was also stated by another researcher that they came from Germany..possibly with the Graff family--the Graff's came from Northern Alsace- Kuhlendorf...anyone have any data on that ? Sincerely, Kathleen Whelpley aka lucy@cet.com

Hi I'm looking for the parentage of Elizabeth Hopkins b 1821. Married Stephen T. Palmer abt 1837 Hayfiled Crawford Co. PA. Died abt 1865 Hayfiled, Crawford PA. thanks Dorothy

Hi Annette: Thanks for the "Greeting". Yes, still working on the MCDILL family. Anna is the last link to find. Theuriet family was put on hold for awhile. Kept running into dead ends. No fun! Will pick it up again after the first of the year, maybe. California has been beautiful with lovely fall weather. Going into a bit of a cold spell now but look for warm weather again next week. Hope you are doing well. Sorry not to have written but have been working on my mother's side of the family since last September. Just had a family reunion in Pittsburgh and all but one family was there. What a job but well worth it. Nice to know I can e-mail you. :-) (happy face) Fondly, Carol

Hi Cuz'ns: I am going to have to unsub tonight as tomorrow I'll be doing last minute errands for my much-looked-forward-to trip to ERIE. I know that if I don't unsub tonight that I'll want to get online tomorrow evening AND when that happens I lose track of time and before I know it it will be bedtime! Please know that I'll be giving a full report upon my arrival home next week. I will miss y'all and if anyone comes aboard looking for my WALDO's, SHAFFER's, CHAPMAN's or WARNER's, give me my address or tell them to post again in a week. Happy trails and much luck in the hunt! patti :)

Lucy, Do you have any other information on the SMITH family? I have Elizabeth JENNINGS, born 1878, whose father was Uriah Jacob JENNINGS and whose mother was Hester Ann SMITH, born April 1838 (died 7/25/1918 and buried in Chapmanville?). I have lots of info on the JENNINGS family but nothing else on Hester Ann except they think she was born in Mercer County. Just wondered if you knew any more about your Dr. Henry E. SMITH and his family? Deanna

Bob, Couldn't help noticing you have a couple of HUBLER/HOOBLERs in the family. Do you know any more about them? I have a Janette UNGER, born in 1867, died in 1930 in Meadville, whose father was James UNGER and whose mother was Ellen HOOBLER. I have no other information on her parents but would love to know more about the HUBLERs/HOOBLERs if you have any. Thanks. Deanna

Does anyone have any information on a Percy Carr b. circa 1870-1880's who lived in W. Parkersburg, W.VA. Percy married Caroline E.Smith of Saegertown- daughter of Dr. Henry E. Smith and Abigail Saeger. lucy@cet.com

Thanks, Pat, for the info on DUNN Cemetery. I, also, have ancestors buried there and that was on my list for the next visit HOME. Sandy Schroeder

Some more from genealogylibrary.com on this family. There are 400 books with mentions of CARRs, but I do not have the time to research all of them. I have found this site has a lot of leads and membership is not expensive thru Family Tree Maker. Page 351 X. HARRY LUZERNE CARR (3420) born in New Hudson, N. Y., July 6, 1846. He enlisted in company E, 103 Pa. vol. in 1865. He went into camp at New Berne, N. C., where he was taken with fever and ague. On July 2nd he was sent to Baltimore, and was discharged July 14, 1865. This disease was never fully cured, and every spring and fall he would have a spell of sickness from its effects. He married Mary Elizabeth Amidon, in Hayfield, Crawford Co., Pa., April 11, 1867. She was born in Mayfield, May 29, 1849. In the spring of 1877, he moved his family to Michigan, and in Jan. 1879, to Franklin Co., Ark., where he died Aug. 22, 1879, of erysipelas caused by the poison in his blood from the effect of fever and ague. By great exertion. Mrs. Carr brought up her family until they could help themselves. She married again in 1888, and now resides in Norrisville, Pa. Her children by first husband are, 5599X1. Horace Eleazer Carr, b. Sept. 13, 1868.  5600 2. David D. Carr, b. June 17, 1870.  5601 3. Luman Harvey Carr, b. Nov. 17, 1871.  5602 4. Fred Clair Carr, b. Oct. 18, 1874.  5603 5. Myrtle Belle Carr, b. Aug. 24, 1876.  5604 6. Bertha May Carr, b. Feb. 10, 1878, d. same day.  5605 7. Harvey Luzerne Carr, b. Jan. 26, 1880, d. April 1, 1882  IX. ELBERT EUGENE CARR (3421) born in Allegany Co., N. Y., Dec. 21, 1850, married Mary Elizabeth Clawson, Jan. 21, 1876. She was born in Crawford Co., Pa., April 17, 1852. He is in the nursery business in Erie, Pa. Their children are, 5606 1. Harry Rubert Carr, b. Jan. 29, 1877.  5607 2. Mary Carr, b. Aug. 22, 1878.  5608 3. Ada Carr, b. March 16, 1882, d. May 3, 1887.  5609 4. Bina Carr, b. July 20, 1887.  5610 5. Ralph Eugene Carr, b. July 5, 1889, d. Nov. 27, 1889.  Page 352  IX. LYMAN WILSON CARR (3422) born in Crawford Co., Pa., Oct. 22, 1854, married Dora L. Gebhardt, in Erie Pa., Sept. 29, 1881. They reside in Erie. They had, 5611 1. Homer Carr, b. June 26, 1886.  IX. FRANK ELMER CARR (3423) born in Crawford Co., Pa., April 4, 1859, married Martha Irene Geer, Nov. 26, 1885, in Erie, Pa. She was born in Erie, Sept. 2, 1862. They reside in West Cleveland, Ohio. Their children are, 5612 1. Marjorie Lenora Carr, b. Nov. 17, 1886.  5613 2. Bert Carr, b. Dec. 15, 1888.  5614 3. Ruth Marion Carr, b. June 12, 1892.  IX, ALFRED BENNETT CARR (3440) born in Dryden, N. Y., May 14, 1829, married Chloe Rachel Stebbins, in Mosiertown, Pa., Oct. 18, 1855. She was born in Cussewago, Crawford Co., Pa., Nov. 16, 1835. They reside in Mosiertown. Their children are, 5632X1. Clarence Alfred Carr, b. July 26, 1856.  5633 2. Clara Luella Carr, b. Sept. 28, 1858.  5634 3. Humphrey Rufus Carr, b. Nov. 18, 1860.  5635 4. Meda Lucinda Carr, b. April, 1863.  5636 5. Matilda Effie Carr, b. Sept. 21, 1865.  5637 6. Alvah Lemuel Carr, b. Oct. 13, 1868.  5638 7. Allen Bert Carr, b. March 6, 1872.  5639 8. Ossian Elmer Carr, b. Sept. 7, 1876.  IX OSSIAN JEREMIAH CARR (3442) born in Dryden, N. Y., Oct. 18, 1833, married Lucy L. Whipple, Aug. 21, 1856. She was born in Hayfield, Pa., Dec. 2, 1830, They reside at Edgewater, Wash. No children. IX. THOMPSON SAMUEL CARR(3443) born in Dryden, N. Y., Aug. 11, 1836, married Almira Eliza Whipple, Sept. 25, 1862. She was born in Hayfield, Pa., Dec. 4, 1840. They reside in Mosiertown, Pa. Their children are, 5640 1. Herbert Willis Carr, b. Aug. 7, 1863, lives Seattle, Wash  5641 2. Jennie Carr, b. Nov. 8, 1864, teacher, " "  5642 3. Bertha Carr, b. May 16, 1870.  5643 4. Anna Carr, b. March 6, 1872.  5644 5. Albert J. Carr, June 9, 1876.  IX. LYDIA MAHALA CARR (3444) born in Dryden, N. Y., Aug. 28, 1838, married Ambrose Whipple, in Cussewago, Pa., April 18, 1861. They reside in Meadville, Pa. Their children are, 5645 1. Ossian Carr Whipple, b. March 24, 1862, d. March 21,  5646 2. Paul C. Whipple, b. Oct. 14, 1863, d. May 24,  5647 3. Ernest A. Whipple, b. April 6, 1866.  Page 355  IX. DR. JOHN STEWART CARR (3453) born in Cussewago, Pa., March 6, 1840, married Mary Ettie Nelson, May 12, 1881. She was born in Crawford Co., Pa., Dec. 1, 1857. They reside in Mosiertown, Pa. Their children are, 5668 1. Groeme Tecumseh Carr, b. July 28, 1882.  5669 2. Ettie Ruth Carr, b. Sept. 28, 1883.  5670 3. Inez Eliza Carr, b. June 28, 1885.  5671 4. Mary M. Carr, b. May 24, 1888.  5672 5. Charles Carr, b. July 13, 1889. 

The 1840 Federal Census included a special inquiry regarding pensioners for Revolutionary or military service. This section named persons who were either family heads or members and specified the pensioner's age, not just a range of ages. The results were summarized in Census of Pensioners: Revolutionary or Miliitary Services...(Washington, D.C: Blair and Rives, 1841). The film is Roll 3 of the National Archives Microfilm T498. Here is another resource to use in tracing your revolutionary war pensioner! Barb

This cemetery is located at Coon's Corners, Hayfield Township, Crawford Co., PA. Going west on Route 198, pass Coon's Corners and take the next dirt road running north. "It was opened prior to 1810 which is the earliest date on stones now there. It is part of the original James Dunn farm. James Dunn and his half-brother, Philip Dunn, came into the region about 1795. Both fought in the revolution, were first settlers and are buried in the cemtery. They came from Piscaraway, New Jersey. The early graves were usually marked by rough stones and were mainly on top of the hill to the east. They are remembered by the present President of the Association, but have been removed. The present road was private until late in the last century. On February 24th, 1877, the application and order of court for the Dunn Cemetery Association were filed and recorded in Crawford County Agreement Book "C" at page 159. The thirty-eight (38) applicants, practically without exception, became lot owners. Some of the earlier lot owners were granted deeds but many were "squatters" in this novel sense. The three who took the oath for the application were: Thomas H. Dunn, Charles Burns and Henry Deeter...The present seven maple trees in front were planted May 7th, 1883...The south side and rear were American chestnut ....In the early days the fence was wood. In 1898 it was decided "to place hitching posts in front of the cemetery".... The present fence, consisting of steel posts in concrete with wire on the sides and back and wood in front, was built in 1950....The cemetery is deep in the country and has a well and facilities for those who wish to visit, work there and have picnic suppers.... The original cemetery deed was given by Walter G. Dunn and his wife, Polly M. Dunn, in 1877. It is part of the original James Dunn Farm and Walter was his grandson. The records show Polly was buried New Year's Eve in 1882 and that Walter left early in 1883 for the West. In 1912 the part on the north was purchased for $34.00 and in 1949 Mr. and Mrs. Melvin Price, not only donated a piece on the rear (east) but also gave an easement on the south which will make an attractive entrance through trees now planted. An up-to-date map was drawn in 1950. Of possible interest is the history of the sexton. At first he received $1.50 for a grave up to four feet long and $2.50 for others. The prce went up very gradually. By 1916 the minutes read significantly "nobody wanted sexton" and the present practice is to have the funeral director make arrangements. There is no maintenance fund worthy of the name. But there is considerable interest and annual picnics are held late in August at which some definite job is undertaken. There is probably no system of maintenance so desirable as some organization among "those who care". The cemetery is now being used for the sixth generation by some families. Our President, Mr. Thomas R. Deeter, tells me his children will be the sixth generation, that is: Thomas is the son of Forest, son of Fred, son of Michael, and son of John who first came over from the "old country". My own family stems from the original Hugh Dunn who went to Dover, New Hampshire, before 1640, and moved to Piscatawy, New Jersey....James and Philip Dunn were the sons of Jeremiah and their background includes such familiar early family names as Martin, Langstaff, Hull, Drake, Bonham, Dunham, Roberts and the three Mayflower Fullers....T. P. Dunn" There is an index on file at the Crawford County Historical Society in Meadville along with the rest of this description. Bill: George Dearborn died 25 September 1864 age 57y11m12d Dearborn, Walter D. born 1839 and died 1906 Dearborn, Cordella E. born 1842 and died 1926 (NOTE: Bill got in touch with me and asked about this cemetery; this is his response) -- ********************************* Pat Butterfield Vedner Conneautville, PA 16406 http://www.toolcity.net/~vedner

Hello to Pat Butterfield Vedner from her cousin in California. Carol McDill-Theuriet theuriet@lodinet.com

MCDILL - MALONEY - MCCANDLESS - NORTHROP - GLEEN I am trying to find the maiden name of Anna MCDILL who was married to Hugh MCDILL. Anna was born in 1792 and died in 1875. She is buried with her husband in Black Ash Cemetery, Crawford Co., PA. Hugh and Anna had 10 children. John 1808-1886, Mary 1810-1888, Hugh 1812-1888 m. Mary Ann GLENN, Anna 1815-1877 m. John MCCANDLESS, James 1818-1894 m. Elizabeth Jane NORTHROP, Elizabeth 1821-1859, William 1824-1858, Lucetta 1827-1836, Nancy 1831-1836 and Harvey 1833-1836. At one time it was believed that Anna might have been the daughter of Daniel MALONEY who was a native of Ireland. He came to Crawford Co. in 1797 from Westmoreland County. His grandson Hiram A. MALONEY and son James MALONEY are mentioned in Biographical Sketches - Conneaut Township. James was a farmer in Mead Township all his life. Could James have been Anna's brother? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Carol McDill-Theuriet theuriet@lodinet.com