Vanda (Vanda444@aol.com): Here is a list of the Morris' found in the "History of Crawford County, Pa. 1885." Let me know which ones you are interested in, if any, and I will supply the information! Amelia Ross David Elizabeth (Bloomfield) Elizabeth Wason Elmira E. Rogers Gouverneur Hopestil Jones J.B. Rev. J.M. Jennie (Goodrich) John Capt. John F. Josiah Levi Lewis Mary (Frazier) Mary Jane (Richmond) Nancy Ellen (Magee) Phoebe L. (Hartman R.E. Robert Gov. Robert Hunter Sarah A. (Jones) Saraph Fish William B. William S. Kathy Brubaker Volunteer Genealogist Linesville Historical Society kbrbkr@toolcity.net -----Original Message----- From: Vanda444@aol.com <Vanda444@aol.com> To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 9:04 PM Subject: [PACRAWFO-L] Re Brubaker >What do you know about the Morris group...? I am most interested..... >Vanda444@aol.com

We have 4 large scrapbooks filled with obits, weddings, etc., at the Linesville Historical Society and I found the following Creggs and Seagers listed, thought I would share with you and others on the list who may be interested: "CHURCHILL-CREGG: In the Argyle House parlor, May 27th, 1892, by Rev. J.A. Klucker, Mr. Geo. W. Churchill of Union City, Pa., and Miss Meda Cregg of Linesville." "CREGG-LITWILER: By Rev. J.A. Klucker in the Baptist parsonage, Jan. 28, 1892, William H. Cregg and Miss Melva Litwiler, both of Linesville." "CREGG-GLANCY: In Pine township, Mar. 8, 1899, by George P. White, Esq., John A. Cregg and Miss Nellie Glancy, both of Pine township." "John Cregg died December 7, 1904, of pneumonia. He was 24 years, 4 months and 11 days. He was born in Linesville; leaves a wife and child. The funeral took place in the M.E. church Friday at 2 o'clock, Rev. Gillett officiating. Deceased was a member of the Junior Order and had been out of health for months; was a son of Mr. and Mrs. John Cregg, brothers Wm. and Milo of Albion, sister Mrs. W.T. Mackay, and Leon and Lena at home." "Wm. D. Seager was killed at Conneaut, O., June 28, 1905, by a Lake Shore flyer. His remains, accompanied by his cousins, Perry Seager and Thos. Craig, and a friend, William Dalrymple, were brought to the home of his nephew, F.E. Lyman, that evening and his funeral, conducted by Rev. Palmer, was held Thursday morning at 11 a.m. with Miss A.A. Seager, of Mecca, O., is the only remaining one of the family. Mr. Seager was 53 years, 3 months and 23 days old, and although odd and eccentric, had many friends." "CREGG-DeROSS: Miss Lena Cregg, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Cregg, was married to Delvin DeRoss of Meadville, Jan. 15, 1917, Rev. Shantz of Erie, officiating." Hope you found these of interest! Kathy Brubaker Volunteer Genealogist Linesville Historical Society kbrbkr@toolcity.net

Hi there , have been on the list a while and although I have not learned much about my Morris group I have learned that Clarion County is close by and that everyone moved around...therefore I have this lengthy post that may help some..I know some of these folks were in Meadvi;lle from other letters''' October 16 ,1998 Alsbaugh Family and More: I found this information in some old note books probably written by my great Aunt Della Mae Morris (also known as Vanessa), or by my grandmother Zeta Laurine Morris Necco (Nicco). In all instances the letters are written to or referring to Amelia Vandalia Alsbaugh Morris my great grandmother Letters to her from my great grandfather , John Benson Morris, are adressed to Della. As you are all aware the 1800 to early 1900 folks changed their names around and this often makes them hard to track. I have not validated any of this as I really have not worked on the line. I am posting it since there are quite a few names and we all might benefit from having it viewable. Possibly we will all make some connections. Vanda (not Vandalia ! ) Anne Greenwood ( Collins , Forres) Vanda444@aol.com Houston , Texas > Freeport, Grand Bahama Island , Bahamas > New Orleans , Louisiana > Houston, Texas >Boca Raton , Florida Letter: Cheerytree, Venango Co. Pa April 28 , 1871 Well Daughter, It is with pleasure that I got ( so plentiful a -------) thoughts of you and yours. Well I have ordered Grave Stones for Robert Wilson's Grave I expect they are at Cooperstown(Cochranton) now and I would like to have Mr. Morris put them up if it-------------.To be set in Lot # 41 in location 7 of the lands of cemtery -&C. I will enclose the Deed so the lot can be -------and you can keep the deed. Now, I will give you the record of our Family, J.H. Alsbaugh born Feb. 12th 1823 B.A. Long Born May 14th 1824 Married on 5th of March 1846 (Ganmiel? Samuel ,but with an i dot)) Daniel Alsbaugh Born Feb.7th 1847 Robert Wilson Alsbaugh Born April 8th 1849 Amelia Vandalia Alsbaugh Born May 20th 1851 Barbara Ann died Oct 22,1869 Robert Wilson died July 30th 1866 I give you this thinking you would like to have it. Saturday is ---I expect to get to your place and I would like to see John I have some business to transact with him. You will finde an order at the bottom of this page for grave stones...Hoping to see you soon ,I close I remain your Father, J.H. Alsbaugh In an another old letter I have the following with out anything else and in a very shaky hand. John Alsbaugh children Catherine More Dead Maggie Moore Marilyn Silger Eliza Weveer George Alsbaugh Hannah Jacob Alsbaugh Children W.W. Alsbaugh M.T. M.W. J.H. Susana? Lavina George Alsbaugh Children Daniel Samuel Rachel John Lorie? Aaron Theofiles? Wm. Alsbaugh Children Rebecca Saran? Amanda The next is in a large note book... "Our Mother" Amelia Vandalia Alsbaugh was born May 2 of 1851, weighed 4 1/2 lbs. at Coopertown Venago Co. Pa. and named after Amelia Vandalia Cooper, the town was named after her father, he was a wealthy man. married Feb 9,1871 Grandma Alsbaugh . Barbara Ann Long born May 14 , 1824.was married about 1845 to J. H. Alsbaugh: died Oct.22 1863. Born Clarion County Pa.Grandpa John Hazard Alsbaugh Born Feb. 12,1823.was married about 1845 to Barbara Ann Long.Died June 1st ,1884.Born in Clarion County , Pa. Daniel Gamaiel Alsbaugh (brother)Born Feb 1, 1847 . married July 1868 to Almira Ban(i or e)y at Titusville Pa.died Dec.19-1917 Age 70 St. Joseph Mo. Robert Wilson Alsbaugh (brother ) born April 8,1849(single) Died July 30th 1866. John (H. or K.?) Alsbaugh had 3 brothers and two sisters.(I am sure this must be J.H.) Michael Alsbaugh took the name ALBROOK(English) EZRA Alsbaugh LAVINA Alsbaugh ENGLISH Susanna Alsbaugh (single) Step mother Margaret (Ironiy)Alsbaugh married J.H. Alsbaugh 1865. Nov.Died . Don't know when Mothers grandfather Jacob Alsbaugh born Clarion Co. (looks like the same(but not quite the same) writing but with a different pen...perhaps much later , in time..follows:) Wilson Alsbaugh married Bessie HICKS August 10 1908. died Feb 24, 1911.He then married Lila RINGER. June 6,1925.Wilson was a son of Daniel Gamaiel Alsbaugh. Alsbaugh also the following children and their births. ALMIRA Alsbaugh(wife) July 17,1851 EUGENE Alsbaugh (son) Sept 15 1870 Died 1888 ( arrow could be pointing to Ernest) ERNEST Alsbaugh (son) Feb. 9 ,1974 DELLA Alsbaugh (daughter) Nov 29 ,1880 RUBY Alsbaugh ( " " ) Nov. 6 1893 CHARLEY Alsbaugh (son Dec 2, 1884 HOMER Alsbaugh (son ) Oct 28,1887...died 1890 ETTA MAE Alsbaugh Oct 23,1877 WILSON Alsbaugh April 19,1882 Ernest Robert Alsbaugh married Katherine POPP June 26th1905 Passed away Aug 13 1918. Charley Alsbaugh married to Augusta CHILDS Dec. 14 1909 had a son Jack born Feb 14,1912. Etta Alsbaugh married Lee CLAYTON March 22/1905 Passed away Dec 18 1908. was married 3 years -8 mos.26 days. had a son Westley born ( nothing) (writing changes again but is similar)(older again) Della Alsbaugh married Richard JOHNSON Jan 6, 1912. Richard was born Dec 23-1871. they live at 2420 St. . Joseph Mo. Richard passed away 3/28/53 Della passed on 7/8/53 Wilson and Bessie had a daughter , Margaret born Aug 2,1909 Wilson passed on do not have the date Margaret lives in St. Jo Missouri Ruby Alsbaugh married Roy SHAFFER April 1917 passed away July 5, 1925 Three children were born Mildred born Nov. 28,1922 Billy born Feb 9,1923 Live now in St. Joseph Missouri Amelia Vandalia Morris passed away July 30,1926( Houston, Texas) Wichita , Kansas/buried Maple Grove cemetery, Wichita. On small stationary I find: ( a different writing) Births D.G. Alsbaugh was born Feb. 1 ,1847 Almira Alsbaugh was born on July , 17, 1851 ....( then it scratched thorugh) Eugene ( C or E ) Alsbaugh was born Sept. 15, 1870 Ernest R. Alsbaugh was born Feb . 9 , 1874 Etta M. Alsbaugh was born Oct. 23 , 1877 Della Alsbaugh was born Nov 29 , 1879 Wilson L. Alsbaugh was born April 19, 1882 Charley A. Alsbaugh was born Dec. 2 1884 Homer Alsbaugh was born Oct.28, 1887 Another page:(same stationary or note book ) Almira Departed this life the 5 of November 1888 Eugene departed this life Sept 4 1888 ( here are some notations) Homer dparted this life May 2, 1888 Maria Alsbaugh was born Jan. 6 18_?_ 1 Mary Ida was born June 16, 1892 Ruby Faye ( Laye?) was born Nov. 6 1893 Mary Ida departed this life July 26 1892 Then the rest of the book large note book goes on about the Morris group.... I hope this helps someone.. Please be aware that I guarantee nothing....I have tried to translate the flowery writing as well as possible . If you are looking for a similar name please contact me and I will have another look . Also if you need help about the Morris clan after 1805 I know all about almost every sibling..These Morris were of Hiram Morris in Meadville , Fairfield also I have quite a bit on the Gorton family. Vanda444@aol.com Please do not get upset that these are not just facts.....I only have original documents A letter I have suggests that the Albrook was in Delaware.( these guys got around :) Researching : Morris , Alsbaugh , Cooper ? , Bowers , Shoemaker , Necco (Nicco) Forres, Garec, De Chaumes , Wasson , Wolcott , Gorton , Greenwood and more.......

What do you know about the Morris group...? I am most interested..... Vanda444@aol.com

Sandy (slschroe@intrepid.net) I found several listings for Roderick Frazier in the "History of Crawford County, Pa, 1885." On pages 385 and 386, in the section telling about the history of Meadville: "Roderick FRAZIER was running a tannery on the corner of Plum and Steers' Alleys, and also carried on a boot and shoe factory on North Main Street, and the Pattersons - John and Joseph - had two tanneries, the former in the southeast suburb of the town, and the latter on Mill Run, west of Water Street." on page 436, also in the section about Meadville's history: "Philip Leighty established a tannery during the War of 1812-15, on the corner of Plum and Steer's Alley, which he carried on until 1826, when Roderick FRAZIER bought the yard. He ran the tannery until his death in June 1852, and his widow conducted the business for a couple of years afterward, then closed the yard." on page 439, also in the section about Meadville's history: "Roderick FRAZIER erected a grist-mill near Mill Run, in the eastern part of Meadville, in 1850-51, and with David Morris ran it until his death in June, 1852. It was then leased to Jonathan David, who was succeeded by David Morris. The mill was afterward carried on by MRS. FRAZIER, and after some ten or twelve years' operation altogether it was closed, and subsequently burned down." on page 560, in the section about the history of Hayfield Township: "Near the southeast corner of the township, Roderick FRAZIER had located a tract on French Creek as early as 1793. He was a Scotchman, a bachelor, and was in the English service at the fall of Quebec. After remaining at Meadville a year or two, in 1796 he took possession of his land, and remained there till death, living o the age of over one hundred years. Roderick FRAZIER, second, no kin to the above, was also a Scotchman from near Inverness. He was a British soldier during the Revolution but deserted to the American side. In 1806 he came to this township and settled on the tract of Roderick FRAZIER, first, supporting the old man in his advanced life and purchasing the tract, a part of which his descendants yet own." on page 562, also in the section on the history of Hayfield Township: "In 1814 James Dickson and William Gill both started distilleries, which had a capacity of about four bushes of rye per day. Roderick FRAZIER and others also operated stills, for the demand for whisky was great." on page 563, also in the section on the history of Hayfield Township: "Near Black's Corners, on the farm of Roderick Frazier, stands a Wesleyan Methodist frame church, erected about 1849. Among the early members of the society that worships here were: David Jones, Esack Jones, Samuel Marsh, Andrew Ikler and Appleton Blakeley. The membership is now reduced to six or eight, but the society, with commendable zeal, still maintains services." on page 739 - in the Biographical Sketch section for Meadville: "James F. FRAZIER, druggist, Meadville, was born in Meadville, May 16, 1847, son of Roderick and Mary (Morris) FRAZIER. The former, a native of Chester County, Penn., of Scotch descent, born May 2, 1802, came to Meadville with his parents in 1806, and here learned the tanner's trade and carried on a tannery for many years. He also manufactured boots and shoes, and carried on a meat market, conducting all three businesses contemporaneously, besides, in later life, owning and operating a flour-mill, thus proving him to have been an energetic, active and useful business man in the early days. Mr. FRAZIER died in 1852. His family consisted of seven children, four of whom are now residents of Meadville. His wife was of Welsh descent, and came with her parents to Meadville in 1815. Her father, a farmer, was a native of New York. She died in 1856." on pages 876 and 877, in the Biographical sketch section for Hayfield Twp: "John Hartman, farmer, PO Meadville, was born in Vernon Township, October 26, 1822, and is a son of John J. and Barbara (Marsh) Hartman, who settled in Vernon Township, this county, about 1810, clearing up a farm there, and afterward removed to Hayfield Township, locating on the farm now owned by David Seavy, which they cleared and improved, and where they lived and died. They were natives of Switzerland, and had the following children: Barbara (Mrs. Joshua Ware), Catherine (Mrs. S. Shoup), Jacob (deceased), John, Henry, Samuel (deceased), Elizabeth (Mrs. Joseph Baker), Abraham, and Mary (Mrs. Roderick FRAZIER). Our subject came to Hayfield Township with his parents in 1830, and was married September 16, 1845, to Julia A., daughter of Conrad and Mary (Renner) Bachman, early settlers of Woodcock Township, this county. By this union there are eleven children: Mary (Mrs. A. Rice), Sadie, Samuel, Christiana (Mrs. Owen Powell), Emma, William, Tama (Mrs. E. Minnis), Minnie, Jennie; Alvin L. and Edgar (twins). Mr. Hartman has resided on his farm since 1840, which he has cleared and made all the improvements thereon. He and his wife are members of the Reformed Church. He has held nearly all the offices in the gift of his township; in politics is a Democrat." on page 890, also in the Hayfield Twp Biographical Sketches: "Reading Wilson, farmer and blacksmith, PO Meadville, was born in Bucks County, Penn., October 6, 1823, son of John and Betsy (Himelwright) Wilson, who settled in Meadville, this county, in 1826, and in 1827, removed to Woodcock Township, this county, and settled on the farm now occupied by the widow of Francis Wilson, which they cleared and improved, and where John Wilson died in 1848 at the age of sixty-nine. Our subject resided in Woodcock Township until eighteen years of age, and then went to Meadville to learn the blacksmith's trade, at which he worked three years there. He then located in McGuffintown, in Hayfield Township, and opened a blacksmith shop, where he has worked at his trade up to the present time. In 1849 he purchased the farm, where he now resides, of his brother-in-law, John H. Culbertson, which he has since that time carried on in connection with his other business. Our subject was married March 22, 1849 to Catherine G., daughter of Robert and Alice (FRAZIER) Dickson, former a native of Scotland, and a son of James Dickson, generally known as "Scotch Jimmie," who first came to Meadville in 1793, settled in Meadville in 1794, and then on to the farm now owned by our subject in 1796. On reaching Meadville Robert Dickson was enrolled in the militia and performed military duty with the men when but nine years of age, serving with credit to himself and danger to the redskins. For this service he was afterward awarded a State pension. Then in 1811 he was commissioned by Gov. Simon Snyder for four years Lieutenant of the first company of the One Hundred and Thirty-Seventh Regiment of the millitary of Pennsylvania in the First Brigade of the Sixteenth Division, composed of the militia of the counties of Beaver, Butler, Mercer, Crawford, Erie, Venango and Warren. He took part in the War of 1812 and for patriotic services in that struggle was given a United States pension. After which he lived for over three-quarters of a century. He was regarded as a man of strict integrity, highly esteemed and respected by his neighbors. He died in the ninetieth year of his age. Mrs. Wilson's maternal grandfather was Roderick FRAZIER, a native of Scotland, who served in the British Army under Cornwallis, and after the close of the war located in Carlisle, Penn; in 1806 settled in Hayfield Township, this county, where he died at the age of seventy-five. Our subject by his marriage has had five children: Alice E. (deceased), Kate E. (Mrs. J.C. Dickson), Wanda A.E. (deceased), J.R. Eugene (deceased) and William H. Mr. Wilson has served his township as School Director. In politics he is a Republican." Hope one of these Roderick Fraziers' is one you're looking for! Kathy Brubaker Volunteer Genealogist Linesville Historical Society kbrbkr@toolcity.net

I have a new addition to my FRAZIER tree. Ann Harper m. Roderick Frazier Can anyone tell me who and where Ann is from? I do know that they are buried in the Cole Cemetery Sandy Roche Schroeder

Steve, I had a chance to look at the 1850 Woodcock Twsp., Crawford Co., PA. census and found the following listed: page 323 John Saeger age 42 blacksmith b. Pa. Mary age 40 Mary E. age 18 Jacob age 14 Catharine age 11 Isaac age 7 Aaron age 4 James Fullerton age 21 blacksmith Note that the age of this Aaron is not right- according to what you stated. I did double check the above John Saeger in the Saeger Family book and he was not listed at all. Sincerely lucy@cet.com

Hi Bev , Ethel and all...I looked into the Mercer Co. Mill Creek 1850 census and found the following...hope it helps. page 266 George Mook age 48 farmer Rebecca age 41 John age 21 laborer Samuel age 18 David age 15 Caroline age 14 Susan age 13 Sarah age 9 Barbara age 8 Gideon age 2 all born in PA. page 267 Abraham Mook age 28 farmer Susan age 34 Catherine age 1 all born PA. page 270 Levi Mook age 26 farmer Elixa age 20 William age 1 Levi and Wm. born PA. Eliza born Ohio page 270 William Mook chairmaker M.P. ? Billy Hannah Alice ? This one was weird..there was no birthdates or ages listed at all..but they lived next door to the Stephen Reed family. Sincerely lucy@cet.com

Found the following in 1850 Crawford census: Hayfield Twsp. page 68 George Stoke age 48 $600 Catherine age 48 John age 26 Benjamin age 18 Mary age 13 Sarah age 11 George age 9 Adeliane age 3 all born PA. Venango Twsp. page 370 John Stoke age 67 farmer $ 3000 Margaret age 67 John age 43 Susan age 32 Elizabeth Bunger ? age 12 all born PA. page 375 Anthony Stok ? age 25 farmer $200 Betsy age 28 William age 5 Betsy age 3 Jane age 6/12 all born PA. Mercer County 1850 Mill Creek page 270 Malachi Stoke age 66 farmer $1000 Catharine age 60 David age 31 laborer Sophia Hortison ? age 26 John Hortison age 1 Matilda age 1 all born PA. page 271 Henry Stoke age 37 farmer $1000 Susan age 32 Robert age 11 Joseph age 10 John age 8 Simon age 3 Catharine age 1 all born PA. Sincerely lucy@cet.com

Does anyone have access to US Census' for 1830 and 1840, Crawford County, PA, that could look up and provide me the info on Otis FRENCH? 1830 Census is supposed to be on page 98 and 1840 Census is supposed to be on page 406. I am trying to track an Otis FRENCH from Crawford County, PA to Rock Island County, IL. Thank you in advance. Audrey Cox Vogelpohl Seattle, Washington

Hello all, I am searching for information on my Saeger family. Here is what I know so far: Aaron SAEGER, b. 1836, Pennsylvania married: Esther KIMMEY, b. Nov. 1841, Mead Twp, Crawford County, Pa. Children (known so far): William Perry SAEGER, b. Dec 29, 1872; Meadville, Pa. d. Feb 18, 1955, Youngstown, Ohio married: Mary TERRELL (?spelling) in 1894 b.November 1873, Pa. William Perry SAEGER and Mary TERRELL's children: Earl Francis SAEGER, b. June 4 1903; d. Dec 12, 1979, Ohio Clyde Ellis SAEGER, b. April 15 1910; d. Nov 2, 1989, Florida Helen I. SAEGER, b. Aug 28, 1908; d. Jan 31, 1984, Saegertown, Pa. Mildred SAEGER, b. Aug 1899 Clarence SAEGER, b. June 1895 Earl Francis SAEGER married: Emma Elizabeth EATON in Meadville, Pa. 0ct 17, 1921. They had 12 Children in all, one of whom is my father Clyde Ellis SAEGER married Edith Ellen WOISIN. One child, Karen. Helen I. SAEGER married GILVAIR Mildred SAEGER married NICKELS Any help with these individuals would be greatly appreciated. Particularly tracing Aaron SAEGER back further to find his parents and so on. I have a lot more information on this family and marital families as well and would be more than willing to share what I have. Thank you, Steve Saeger ssaeger@midohio.net http://members.xoom.com/SaegerFamily

Hi Everybody: For those that have e-mailed me regarding an address for the Discharge papers: I would suggest writing to the: Crawford County Court House Register of Wills/Recorder of Deeds Office c/o Mrs. Rebecca Jordan, Register & Recorder 903 Diamond Park Meadville, Pa. 16335 (814) 333-7411 I would assume they are still in the Recorders Office. I see in the telephone book there is a Veteran Services located in the Courthouse & their telephone number is (814) 333-7314. I have no idea what the charge would be for requesting papers. Good Luck! Bev +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Researching the following families from Crawford County, Pa. ADSIT + GIBSON + PUTNAM + WHITING + FETTERMAN + CROZIER + FISHER + HOOD + BIRCH/BURCH + MUSHRUSH + McDOWELL + McFADDEN + HUTCHESON + JOHNSON + GARWOOD + HILL + HARPER + MATTOCKS + MOOK + WILLIAMS + REED + STALEY + GRINNELL + WESCOAT/WESCOTE + GASKILL + TAYLOR + SEELEY + McGUIRE +

Where would I write to in Crawford county to get a copy of a Veteran Pension file records for service in the War of 1812. I have been told that NARA didn't have a record of my ancestor but the local county does. ================ Was there a local newspaper for the county back in 1870? Where would an obit be published if there was one. Thanks, Adrianne Hopkins kee46@msn.com | | | / <(o o)> Looking for - - - - - - - - - - - - - -o000 - - - - 000o - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Personal Web Pages: Hunsucker: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/8679/index.htm Nuckolls: President of the Nuckolls Society http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7961/index.htm Hopkins: http://members.tripod.com/~ahopkins/index.htm Cushman/Allerton: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/2032/ KIRBY-KERBY: http://members.tripod.com/~adriannehopkins/index.htm GRIFFITH/WHTLATCH/VANDEFORD/YOST/TAYLOR/PLUMMER KING/HADAWAY/RIKER/McCUTCHEON/CUNNINGHAM/CONNER/SARGENT GASKILL/LIPPINCOTT Families http://members.tripod.com/~keehopkins/index.htm HOPKINS, KIRBY-KERBY, NUCKOLLS, HUNSUCKER, CUSHMAN, RIKER, ALLERTON, SAYER, GEORGIA, NJ, MDGEN, GAGWINNE.....LISTS-OWNER @ RootsWeb

Hi Everybody: Found this today in an old scrap book that my aunt kept. Thought it might help somebody.... Meadville Tribune ca. 1940's (No Date) COURTHOUSE KEEPS DISCHARGE PAPERS Records of 200 World War 1 Veterans Filed Through Free Service Register and Recorder Forest L. Knapp announced last evening that about 200 honorable discharge papers of World War 2 veterans have been recorded at his office in the courthouse since the first of this year. Miss Louise Adsit (my aunt...) is in charge of this service, which is offered free of charge as a convenience to all returning service men and women in Crawford County, Mr. Knapp said. A total of 1,432 discharge papers dating back to and including the CIVIL WAR are now recorded at his office, Mr. Knapp added. and on the back side of this clipping is the following: Legal Record: Marriage License Applications William Allen Cousins - Meadville Margaret Thelma Sheakley - Meadville John Michael McGuire - Meadville Betty marie Beckman - Meadville Deeds Recorded: Will and Esther Ann Kline to R.J. & Helen Kline, property in Cambridge twp. Ellen Vernice Saeger and others to Newton & Julie H. Leonheart property in Saegertown. Albert & Josephine Malley to Helen Haley, property in First Ward, Meadville. Enjoy! Bev

Good Morning Kathy: Thanks so much for the obit on Bertie Craig. He could very well be a nephew. Great Grandpa George W. Cregg had a brother by the name of John. John and his wife Jane are mentioned in grandpa's Civil War pension papers. It states in an affidavit, they were all friends from childhood and all lived in the same neighborhood. It also states John is the brother of George and he and Jane stood up for George at his wedding which took place at the Linesville Methodist Ch., mrd. by Rev. L. Heard, 17th day of April, 1872. Gr Grandma Cregg's name was Isabell Brandon Briggs, not Anna. It's been a long time since I have worked on the Cregg line. Anna was their daughter, my grandma. If you would like family history (what I have so far) on the Creggs for your records at the society, I would be glad to send them to you. The name Bullis is also in the family line; I believe Anna was mrd. to a Bullis but I have not found out as yet when. Anna was then married to my Grandfather, Frank Herman Rider. I don't know if this Bullis died or if they got divorced. Anyway, Dad (John H. Rider) had two stepsisters, Mabel Bullis and Bessie. Wasn't there a Bullis family that had a big celery farm there in Linesville? Seems to me I heard that somewhere. Thanks again Kathy for the obit. If I can be of help from the Lorain Co. OH area, please let me know as I am also a volunteer at the historical society. What would they do without us???? Jan

I have notice that some are look to purchase the book "History of Crawford County, Pa, 1885 by Warner, Beers & Co". Well Mechling Associates, Inc. Genealogy and History Books, 203 Pine Tract Road, Butler, Pa. 16001-8412, Phone # 1-800-941-3735, e-mail armechling@aol.com list this book for sale. They also listed "Our County and Its People: A Historical and Memorial Record of Crawford County, Pa 1899 by Samuel P. Bates. They have a Index listed for this book. Does anyone know how I can get an Index for the 1885 Book. I have seem one in the two volumn set, but my one volumn set does not have one. By the way, Mechling Associates have a website at members.aol.com/armechling/mechweb.html. Thanks, Max W. Baer

To Jan Brooks (jan@kellnet.com) I am sorry, but I did not find any Creggs (Craigs, etc.) in the "History of Crawford County, Pa. 1885." I do have a copy of an obituary, though, for a Bertie "Craig" from Linesville - copy of the obit follows. Don't know if this is someone you are looking for or not - but here it is! Craig, Bertie died August 13, 1883 Another case of "didn't know it was loaded" happened in our midst. Thursday morning, the two young boys of John Craig's, Willie and Bertie, were fooling with a loaded gun when it was accidentally discharged in the hands of Willie, the charge entering the cheek of Bertie and coming out the back of his head. He lived but a short time after being shot. Both boys supposed the gun to be empty. People should profit by this warning. It is dangerous to have a loaded gun around the house where there are children, and equally dangerous to allow young boys to use firearms. It is much better to be cautious before some one is killed or wounded than afterwards. The friends of the bereaved have the sympathy of the community. - Linesville Herald August 18, 1883; page 3, column 1 Kathy Brubaker Volunteer Genealogist Linesville Historical Society kbrbkr@toolcity.net -----Original Message----- From: Jan Brooks <jan@kellnet.com> To: kbrbkr@toolcity.net <kbrbkr@toolcity.net> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 7:31 AM Subject: Creggs >Good Morning: > >Are there any Creggs listed in your 1885 History of Crawford Co. book? G >Grandparents George and Anna are buried in the Linesville cemetery. >Looking for his dad, Wm Cregg. Thanks, > >Jan >

This from another list I am on--Kay[Aldrich]Cutshall > > For those of you that don't already know this or may not be aware of > military records holdings. Here is some information from another list > that > I am on. > > FYI== > U.S.Army Personnel Rosters and morning reports are available from the > National > Personnel Records Center, 9700 Page Blvd., St. Louis, Mo. 63132, > 314/538-4261. > The request must be made in writing. State the request is a Freedom of > Information Act request and give complete unit information (as specific > as > possible including company and platoon), and month and year of the > roster/reports that you are requesting. Because the quality of the > records > can be poor, it is advisable to ask for rosters a few months before and > after > the actual month you are looking for. There are usually no fees charged > for > "Freedom of information Act Requests." Turnaround time can be very slow. > Plan on several months. > > Operations Reports/Lessons Learned (ORLL) and other primary source > material > about Army units in Vietnam such as radio logs, unit journals, and after > action reports, are stored at the Textual Reference Branch, National > Archives > ll, MD 20740-6001, 301/713-7250, fax 301/713-7482. Call and ask to speak > with > an Archivist specializing in the Vietnam War before going to the > Archives. > They can assist in determining whether materials you are interested in > are > available and explain how to obtain a researcher's card to examine the > documents. > > Similar reference assistance may also be obtained from the U.S. Army > Center > for Military History, 1099 14th Street, NW, Washington, DC. 20005, > 202/761-5413, and the U.S. Army Military History Institute, Bldg. 22, > Upton > Hall, Carlisle Barracks, Carlisle, PA. 17013-5008, 717/245-3611, fax > 717/245-3711. > > Obtaining Military Records: ARMY > > Complete military and medical records including DD-214's, can be obtained > by > veterans or their next of kin, if the vetera has died. Non relatives may > also > request this information, but what they will receive will be limited and > will > not include date of birth, official photo, records of court martial for > active > duty personnel, medical information, social security number, or present > address. State that the request is being made under the Freedom of > Information Act. > > Requests for military records must be made on a government form, SF 180. > This > form is available on the Internet at http://www.va.gov/forms/index.htm/ > Scroll to the bottom of the page, as the SF 180: Request Pertaining to > Military Records is the last one listed. You may also call 314/538-4261 > and > leave a message to have a form sent to you. > > You cannot request an entire file, each document must be named and only > those > named specifically will be provided. Names of documents include unit > orders, > awards and commendations, efficiency reports and ratings, promotion > orders, > records of court martial or other disciplinary actions, assignments and > reassignment orders, photographs, qualification records, and report of > separation (DD-214). > > When requesting medical records a statement should be included that they > are > needed by a current physician. If information is being requested > regarding a > specific injury or illness, that should be specified. If records > regarding > hospitalizations are needed, provide the dates that the hospitalization > occurred and the name of the hospital. > > Send the SF 180 to the National Personnel Records Center, 9700 Page > Blvd., St. > Louis, MO 63132-5100. Expect a significant waiting period before > receiving > the information. Requests citing VA claims and medical emergencies > receive > priority.

Lucy, Thanks for clearing up that muddle. Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for Seager connections... Now I'm off to look for that book. Barb >Barb: I spent some time looking over " The Saeger Family " by >Elizabeth Saeger Daniel and she does mention the following- > >The name Saeger / Sager / Seeger appears occasionally in old records >of Germany and Switzerland. Conrad Sager of Zug, Switzerland, was >killed by Austrians on a precipice in 1388. Burki Sager was a >councillor in Bern in 1402, and John Sager was Governor of Arberg in >1553. Tradition also indicates that a member of the family was >knighted Feriherrin von Seager of Seagersberg in the Austrian Tyrol. > >The Johan Nicholas Saeger family ( that relocated to Lehigh Co., PA ) >came from - Brandau, Odenwald section, Starkenburg, of Hessen >Darmstadt, Germany.

Kathy, I am doing research from California on the HAMMON family of Conneautville, Crawford County. I was wondering if there is any info on this family in the History of Crawford County, 1885? Our direct descendant is Marshall Miron HAMMON (1813-1881) married to Harriet Sophia COOPER. They arrived in Conneautville approximately 1845. Harriet's father Silas and her brother William Page COOPER came at the same time. Marshall and Harriet had 4 children who lived to adulthood. France Emiline(1851), Ellen(1848), Wendell P(1855). and Edwin W. (1849). The last three came to California in the 1870s. Ellen married a Daniel Derby of Conneautville. Marshall's brother Daniel and his family were also in the County. One the brothers, Hiram married into the Power family. Any information will be greatly appreciated. > >From the tranquility of Fanstamagloriana Roberta & John Hammon -----------------------------------------------