I believe everyone who wants to should pay the $15 a year, or $5 each time. I simply don't want to. My way of supporting the Society was by donating my books, as each was published. I won't be doing that any more, either. Those of you who wish to may certainly pay any fee you choose. I was just pointing out that it will be an ever dwindling number, which seems to be the exact opposite of what the Society should be doing. Simple economics teaches us that a rise in cost will result in a decrease in demand. A dramatic rise in cost will see a correspondingly dramatic decrease in demand. Even when it was FREE, the Society was hardly overwhelmed with patrons. I was just expressing my opinion that the Society will fail soon. By their logic, if the number of patrons decreases by 50% due to the new charges, they would have to RAISE the fee in order to compensate. No business that ever tried that theory is still IN business. I still wish them well, as I do to those of you who will continue to patronize them. I will just not be one of them. And I personally saw other people walk out without paying, so I know I am not alone. And that was just one day.... Jeffrey Blystone > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > If you had been reading these emails last year, you would know that the > historical society was forced out of the library. I don't > > believe that anyone who owns a computer can't come up with $15 a year. > > Dave Palmer > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > Pardon my soap box for a minute. > > > > > > I have in the past and currently belong to a number of organization(s) > that > > > provide quite a bit > > > of service for free to many people that have fallen on hard times or > simply > > > can not afford much.. I'm not trying to criticize an organization of > > > dedicated volunteers, but being a dedicated volunteer I personally would > > > have a hard time imposing a > > > fee because poor planning, decision making, or over an emotionally > charged > > > issue. > > > > > > I feel that if you make a decision, because you do not like your > > > surroundings or how things are handled, it > > > should not be up to the rest of us to pay for that decision. > > > Not everyone has the where with all to pay. > > > > > > I originally sent out an email to try to find out what people think and > also > > > to see if anyone could put the > > > situation into proper perspective. > > > In light of the absence of this information it seems what your saying > is > > > that this information should be for those fortunate enough to be able to > > > afford this fee no matter how it was arrived at. > > > > > > Also Erie, Just up the road from Meadville ( 45 miles north on I 90) has > a > > > Historical Society with a free library, the only fee is 0.30 cents per > > > photocopy. How can they obtain this level of service, for free, such a > short > > > distance away and Crawford County Historical can not? > > > It still comes down to this for me, are we being charged for poor decisi > ons? > > > Back in October the Historical Society Library was located in the > Meadville > > > Public Library ( info from this list October 2003). Why the move? Did > the > > > Library need more room? What was the issue for the Move? > > > > > > I do not mind paying the $5 for supporting any program, I also pay for > my > > > own mistakes and I'm not looking for a free ride. I also pay taxes, like > > > everyone else, some of the tax money is returned in the form of grants > for > > > programs like this. I believe I read a while ago Crawford County > Historical > > > received some of these funds. What is really going on? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM > > > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you > > > have to > > > > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead > of > > > > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving > > > them some > > > > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > > > > Dave Palmer > > > > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > > > > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical > > > Society > > > > > and > > > > > > Meadville can not. > > > > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With > this > > > in > > > > > mind > > > > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time > > > shelling > > > > > > out $5 every visit. > > > > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford > > > County > > > > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they > have > > > > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get > in > > > the > > > > > > > door. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > > > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical > Society, > > > the > > > > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. > I > > > live > > > > > > > near > > > > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a > > > member. > > > > > > > $15 > > > > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they > > > archive > > > > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the > Crawford > > > > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission > fee. > > > They > > > > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast > track > > > to > > > > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user > friendly > > > > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put > a > > > sign > > > > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door > > > mentions > > > > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you > > > immediately > > > > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never > again > > > > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into > > > decline so > > > > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently > > > before > > > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line > more! > > > The > > > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn > more. > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the > Crawford > > > > > County, > > > > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn > more. > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > County, > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Where we now have the privilege of using these for research? -----Original Message----- From: JWB [mailto:jwb@surferie.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:10 PM To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society I believe everyone who wants to should pay the $15 a year, or $5 each time. I simply don't want to. My way of supporting the Society was by donating my books, as each was published. I won't be doing that any more, either. Those of you who wish to may certainly pay any fee you choose. I was just pointing out that it will be an ever dwindling number, which seems to be the exact opposite of what the Society should be doing. Simple economics teaches us that a rise in cost will result in a decrease in demand. A dramatic rise in cost will see a correspondingly dramatic decrease in demand. Even when it was FREE, the Society was hardly overwhelmed with patrons. I was just expressing my opinion that the Society will fail soon. By their logic, if the number of patrons decreases by 50% due to the new charges, they would have to RAISE the fee in order to compensate. No business that ever tried that theory is still IN business. I still wish them well, as I do to those of you who will continue to patronize them. I will just not be one of them. And I personally saw other people walk out without paying, so I know I am not alone. And that was just one day.... Jeffrey Blystone > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:16 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > If you had been reading these emails last year, you would know that the > historical society was forced out of the library. I don't > > believe that anyone who owns a computer can't come up with $15 a year. > > Dave Palmer > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > Pardon my soap box for a minute. > > > > > > I have in the past and currently belong to a number of organization(s) > that > > > provide quite a bit > > > of service for free to many people that have fallen on hard times or > simply > > > can not afford much.. I'm not trying to criticize an organization of > > > dedicated volunteers, but being a dedicated volunteer I personally would > > > have a hard time imposing a > > > fee because poor planning, decision making, or over an emotionally > charged > > > issue. > > > > > > I feel that if you make a decision, because you do not like your > > > surroundings or how things are handled, it > > > should not be up to the rest of us to pay for that decision. > > > Not everyone has the where with all to pay. > > > > > > I originally sent out an email to try to find out what people think and > also > > > to see if anyone could put the > > > situation into proper perspective. > > > In light of the absence of this information it seems what your saying > is > > > that this information should be for those fortunate enough to be able to > > > afford this fee no matter how it was arrived at. > > > > > > Also Erie, Just up the road from Meadville ( 45 miles north on I 90) has > a > > > Historical Society with a free library, the only fee is 0.30 cents per > > > photocopy. How can they obtain this level of service, for free, such a > short > > > distance away and Crawford County Historical can not? > > > It still comes down to this for me, are we being charged for poor decisi > ons? > > > Back in October the Historical Society Library was located in the > Meadville > > > Public Library ( info from this list October 2003). Why the move? Did > the > > > Library need more room? What was the issue for the Move? > > > > > > I do not mind paying the $5 for supporting any program, I also pay for > my > > > own mistakes and I'm not looking for a free ride. I also pay taxes, like > > > everyone else, some of the tax money is returned in the form of grants > for > > > programs like this. I believe I read a while ago Crawford County > Historical > > > received some of these funds. What is really going on? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM > > > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you > > > have to > > > > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead > of > > > > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving > > > them some > > > > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > > > > Dave Palmer > > > > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > > > > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical > > > Society > > > > > and > > > > > > Meadville can not. > > > > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With > this > > > in > > > > > mind > > > > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time > > > shelling > > > > > > out $5 every visit. > > > > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford > > > County > > > > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they > have > > > > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get > in > > > the > > > > > > > door. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > > > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical > Society, > > > the > > > > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. > I > > > live > > > > > > > near > > > > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a > > > member. > > > > > > > $15 > > > > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they > > > archive > > > > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the > Crawford > > > > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission > fee. > > > They > > > > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast > track > > > to > > > > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user > friendly > > > > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put > a > > > sign > > > > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door > > > mentions > > > > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you > > > immediately > > > > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never > again > > > > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into > > > decline so > > > > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently > > > before > > > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line > more! > > > The > > > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn > more. > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the > Crawford > > > > > County, > > > > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn > more. > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > County, > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Oh? Only those that have computers are allowed to research? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > If you had been reading these emails last year, you would know that the historical society was forced out of the library. I don't > believe that anyone who owns a computer can't come up with $15 a year. > Dave Palmer > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > Pardon my soap box for a minute. > > > > I have in the past and currently belong to a number of organization(s) that > > provide quite a bit > > of service for free to many people that have fallen on hard times or simply > > can not afford much.. I'm not trying to criticize an organization of > > dedicated volunteers, but being a dedicated volunteer I personally would > > have a hard time imposing a > > fee because poor planning, decision making, or over an emotionally charged > > issue. > > > > I feel that if you make a decision, because you do not like your > > surroundings or how things are handled, it > > should not be up to the rest of us to pay for that decision. > > Not everyone has the where with all to pay. > > > > I originally sent out an email to try to find out what people think and also > > to see if anyone could put the > > situation into proper perspective. > > In light of the absence of this information it seems what your saying is > > that this information should be for those fortunate enough to be able to > > afford this fee no matter how it was arrived at. > > > > Also Erie, Just up the road from Meadville ( 45 miles north on I 90) has a > > Historical Society with a free library, the only fee is 0.30 cents per > > photocopy. How can they obtain this level of service, for free, such a short > > distance away and Crawford County Historical can not? > > It still comes down to this for me, are we being charged for poor decisi ons? > > Back in October the Historical Society Library was located in the Meadville > > Public Library ( info from this list October 2003). Why the move? Did the > > Library need more room? What was the issue for the Move? > > > > I do not mind paying the $5 for supporting any program, I also pay for my > > own mistakes and I'm not looking for a free ride. I also pay taxes, like > > everyone else, some of the tax money is returned in the form of grants for > > programs like this. I believe I read a while ago Crawford County Historical > > received some of these funds. What is really going on? > > > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM > > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you > > have to > > > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > > > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving > > them some > > > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > > > Dave Palmer > > > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical > > Society > > > > and > > > > > Meadville can not. > > > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this > > in > > > > mind > > > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time > > shelling > > > > > out $5 every visit. > > > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford > > County > > > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in > > the > > > > > > door. > > > > > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, > > the > > > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I > > live > > > > > > near > > > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a > > member. > > > > > > $15 > > > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they > > archive > > > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. > > They > > > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track > > to > > > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a > > sign > > > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door > > mentions > > > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you > > immediately > > > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into > > decline so > > > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently > > before > > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > > The > > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > > > County, > > > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

If you had been reading these emails last year, you would know that the historical society was forced out of the library. I don't believe that anyone who owns a computer can't come up with $15 a year. Dave Palmer Rick Polaski wrote: > Pardon my soap box for a minute. > > I have in the past and currently belong to a number of organization(s) that > provide quite a bit > of service for free to many people that have fallen on hard times or simply > can not afford much.. I'm not trying to criticize an organization of > dedicated volunteers, but being a dedicated volunteer I personally would > have a hard time imposing a > fee because poor planning, decision making, or over an emotionally charged > issue. > > I feel that if you make a decision, because you do not like your > surroundings or how things are handled, it > should not be up to the rest of us to pay for that decision. > Not everyone has the where with all to pay. > > I originally sent out an email to try to find out what people think and also > to see if anyone could put the > situation into proper perspective. > In light of the absence of this information it seems what your saying is > that this information should be for those fortunate enough to be able to > afford this fee no matter how it was arrived at. > > Also Erie, Just up the road from Meadville ( 45 miles north on I 90) has a > Historical Society with a free library, the only fee is 0.30 cents per > photocopy. How can they obtain this level of service, for free, such a short > distance away and Crawford County Historical can not? > It still comes down to this for me, are we being charged for poor decisions? > Back in October the Historical Society Library was located in the Meadville > Public Library ( info from this list October 2003). Why the move? Did the > Library need more room? What was the issue for the Move? > > I do not mind paying the $5 for supporting any program, I also pay for my > own mistakes and I'm not looking for a free ride. I also pay taxes, like > everyone else, some of the tax money is returned in the form of grants for > programs like this. I believe I read a while ago Crawford County Historical > received some of these funds. What is really going on? > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you > have to > > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving > them some > > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > > Dave Palmer > > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical > Society > > > and > > > > Meadville can not. > > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this > in > > > mind > > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time > shelling > > > > out $5 every visit. > > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford > County > > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in > the > > > > > door. > > > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, > the > > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I > live > > > > > near > > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a > member. > > > > > $15 > > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they > archive > > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. > They > > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track > to > > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a > sign > > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door > mentions > > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you > immediately > > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into > decline so > > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently > before > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > > County, > > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Pardon my soap box for a minute. I have in the past and currently belong to a number of organization(s) that provide quite a bit of service for free to many people that have fallen on hard times or simply can not afford much.. I'm not trying to criticize an organization of dedicated volunteers, but being a dedicated volunteer I personally would have a hard time imposing a fee because poor planning, decision making, or over an emotionally charged issue. I feel that if you make a decision, because you do not like your surroundings or how things are handled, it should not be up to the rest of us to pay for that decision. Not everyone has the where with all to pay. I originally sent out an email to try to find out what people think and also to see if anyone could put the situation into proper perspective. In light of the absence of this information it seems what your saying is that this information should be for those fortunate enough to be able to afford this fee no matter how it was arrived at. Also Erie, Just up the road from Meadville ( 45 miles north on I 90) has a Historical Society with a free library, the only fee is 0.30 cents per photocopy. How can they obtain this level of service, for free, such a short distance away and Crawford County Historical can not? It still comes down to this for me, are we being charged for poor decisions? Back in October the Historical Society Library was located in the Meadville Public Library ( info from this list October 2003). Why the move? Did the Library need more room? What was the issue for the Move? I do not mind paying the $5 for supporting any program, I also pay for my own mistakes and I'm not looking for a free ride. I also pay taxes, like everyone else, some of the tax money is returned in the form of grants for programs like this. I believe I read a while ago Crawford County Historical received some of these funds. What is really going on? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you have to > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving them some > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > Dave Palmer > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical Society > > and > > > Meadville can not. > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this in > > mind > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time shelling > > > out $5 every visit. > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the > > > > door. > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live > > > > near > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. > > > > $15 > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > County, > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I do not see anything wrong with charghing a fee to people who walk in the door for research, but I do think there needs to be a research room with chairs and tables at least... that standing up to do it all is prohibitive to some elderly or infirm researchers... As far as a sign goes, maybe that's why they are charging money, to have enough to use for those kinds of things. We were all gung- ho for the Hist soc library just a short time ago, so I say we need to have a little patience while they get going. I do agree that if they are charging money I would hope the results will soon be seen by the public. I have been seriously thinking of donating materials to them, but I think I must wait on that also.... g ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I pay taxes for the court house services. The historical society depends on fees and donations. Dave Palmer Pam Black wrote: > Would yopu feel the same way if you had to enter the court house to do > reserch on deeds , deaths and wills?????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you > have to > > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving > them some > > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > > Dave Palmer > > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical > Society > > > and > > > > Meadville can not. > > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this > in > > > mind > > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time > shelling > > > > out $5 every visit. > > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford > County > > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in > the > > > > > door. > > > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical > Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, > the > > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I > live > > > > > near > > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a > member. > > > > > $15 > > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they > archive > > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. > They > > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track > to > > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a > sign > > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door > mentions > > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you > immediately > > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into > decline so > > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently > before > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The > > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > > County, > > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? 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I am extremely grateful for all the help I have received from the Crawford County Historical Society. I belong to several other societies and all cost much more and none have been more pleasant and helpful than the volunteers and staff in Crawford County. I am looking forward to another trip back this summer where I can continue to search the tax records that have revealed so much about my ancestors. Although I will renew my membership I would not be at all upset if there were an increase in membership fees to support the organization. I have not used any historical societies libraries where there was no fee for nonmembers. Val Zerambo Reading, PA

Would yopu feel the same way if you had to enter the court house to do reserch on deeds , deaths and wills?????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you have to > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving them some > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > Dave Palmer > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical Society > > and > > > Meadville can not. > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this in > > mind > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time shelling > > > out $5 every visit. > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the > > > > door. > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live > > > > near > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. > > > > $15 > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > County, > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? 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Seems to me that the $15 annual fee is really cheap. My only suggestion is that when someone comes through the door, they should give the visitor a choice--$5 per visit or the annual membership at $15. Perhaps the problem is that they aren't communicating that choice. Is th e membership considered a donation that is tax-deductable? If so, they should mention that. Secondly, having the materials in a very user-friendly environment, with chairs, etc, seems like it would be a first priority. Surely they can find a means of providing a couple more chairs and a flat spot to work with a small budget. Or is the space too cramped? I hope not. Jan G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn" <jaea703@nauticom.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > I agree with Rob Walton that the information available is well worth the > fee. The newspaper abstracts and index are sources not to be found anywhere > else, and have provided many clues for me. The cemetery records save a lot > of hunting too. > > The move to the new HQ did not allow a lot of planning, so it will take the > volunteers and staff some time to have everything in shape. I have no doubt > that more equipment, furniture, etc. is on their wish list. I think it is > about time some of us who make extensive use of the library also take some > responsibility for keeping it in place. If it means a small fee for use, > then so be it. > > Evelyn > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Crawford County, Pennsylvania. If have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact Teri off list at sanchoinc@houston.rr.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you have to pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving them some financial and moral support for all the good work they do? Dave Palmer Mount Jackson, Virginia Rick Polaski wrote: > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical Society > and > > Meadville can not. > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this in > mind > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time shelling > > out $5 every visit. > > What does anyone think? > > > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the > > > door. > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live > > > near > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. > > > $15 > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > County, > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I agree with Rob Walton that the information available is well worth the fee. The newspaper abstracts and index are sources not to be found anywhere else, and have provided many clues for me. The cemetery records save a lot of hunting too. The move to the new HQ did not allow a lot of planning, so it will take the volunteers and staff some time to have everything in shape. I have no doubt that more equipment, furniture, etc. is on their wish list. I think it is about time some of us who make extensive use of the library also take some responsibility for keeping it in place. If it means a small fee for use, then so be it. Evelyn

I plan to visit the Crawford county Historical Society in September of this year and would gladly pay a $15 fee for the opportunity to search records that are unavailable otherwise. A new building needs support and genealogy cannot survive without finical support. Jane Blair Britz Yakima,Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Palmer" <dpalmer@shentel.net> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 7:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > Sounds like too many people are looking for a free ride. The most you have to > pay is $15 a year. Even one visit would be worth that to me. Instead of > criticizing an organization of dedicated volunteers, how about giving them some > financial and moral support for all the good work they do? > Dave Palmer > Mount Jackson, Virginia > > Rick Polaski wrote: > > > I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > > > > > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical Society > > and > > > Meadville can not. > > > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > > > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > > > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this in > > mind > > > it sounds if everyone will pay > > > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time shelling > > > out $5 every visit. > > > What does anyone think? > > > > > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > > > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > > > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County > > > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the > > > > door. > > > > > > > > Darla Mader > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the > > > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live > > > > near > > > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. > > > > $15 > > > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive > > > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They > > > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to > > > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign > > > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions > > > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately > > > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so > > > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford > > County, > > > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? 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I'm Sorry Darla, I meant to send this to the List. > I wonder why Erie can have a massive library at their Historical Society and > Meadville can not. > Is it because of mis management, failure to plan, no grant writing > committee. Correct me if I'm wrong, but > didn't the CCHS have a falling out with their former host. With this in mind > it sounds if everyone will pay > for some bad decisions. If this is true I would have a hard time shelling > out $5 every visit. > What does anyone think? > > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darla Mader" <dsmader@qwest.net> > To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:18 PM > Subject: RE: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County > > PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have > > expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the > > door. > > > > Darla Mader > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM > > To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > > > > > > I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the > > information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live > > near > > Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. > > $15 > > a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive > > there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. > > > > Rob WALTON > > > > > > > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford > > County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They > > have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new > > facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to > > extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly > > than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > > > > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign > > out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions > > nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately > > upon entrance to demand it. > > > > > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again > > donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so > > quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, > PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

JWB, Sounds like a pretty good reason to become a member if you ask me. cps From: "JWB" <jwb@surferie.net> Reply-To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:43:12 -0500 No fees to members. There is a $15 yearly membership fee though. I do not know if that is new, increased, or remains the same. A $5.00 entrance fee, up from ZERO last year, seems like a steep increase though. I think they will turn away more people (like myself) who may never return. During my time there on Friday, it was clear that not one person coming in was aware of the new fee, and some simply walked out without paying. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BJHErie@aol.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > Hi > Are they charging a $5.00 admission fee to the members of the Crawf Co. Hist. > Society? If this is the case, I guess I too will be doing my research > someplace else! > Bev in Erie > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx

I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live near Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. $15 a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. Rob WALTON > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately upon entrance to demand it. > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before long. >

I agree with you Rob. I have never been able to go to Crawford County PA and I am a $15 dollar a year member too. I'm sure that they have expenses in the new place and I would be happy to pay $5 to get in the door. Darla Mader -----Original Message----- From: waltonrp@bellsouth.net [mailto:waltonrp@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:33 PM To: PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society I have to say that everytime I have been at the Historical Society, the information that I was able to research was definately worth $5. I live near Miami, and plan to visit Crawford this year, I'll just become a member. $15 a year is a pretty good deal for all the information that they archive there. They should have charged a long time ago IMO. Rob WALTON > > Just FYI, for all of you who have used or plan to use the Crawford County Historical Society - they now charge a $5.00 admission fee. They have not widely publicized this, but since their move to the new facility, this formerly free and open society is on the fast track to extinction. The new facility is smaller and much less user friendly than the old one. I had to work standing up for almost 2 hours. > > Having been there for 2 months now, they still have yet to put a sign out in front of the building. Even the paper sign on the door mentions nothing about the new entrance fee, but they approach you immediately upon entrance to demand it. > > I won't be visiting there again anytime soon, and will never again donate my work to them. It is sad to see the society go into decline so quickly. I would not be surprised to see them close permanently before long. > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Jeff: Thanks for the info. I am a member but was soon to be an ex-member if they were going to charge me an admission fee. Bev

No fees to members. There is a $15 yearly membership fee though. I do not know if that is new, increased, or remains the same. A $5.00 entrance fee, up from ZERO last year, seems like a steep increase though. I think they will turn away more people (like myself) who may never return. During my time there on Friday, it was clear that not one person coming in was aware of the new fee, and some simply walked out without paying. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BJHErie@aol.com> To: <PACRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [PACRAWFO] NEW FEES - Crawford County Historical Society > Hi > Are they charging a $5.00 admission fee to the members of the Crawf Co. Hist. > Society? If this is the case, I guess I too will be doing my research > someplace else! > Bev in Erie > > > ==== PACRAWFO Mailing List ==== > Looking for your ancestors in Crawford County? Visit the Crawford County, PA USGenWeb site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacrawfo > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Are they charging a $5.00 admission fee to the members of the Crawf Co. Hist. Society? If this is the case, I guess I too will be doing my research someplace else! Bev in Erie