Hello: I am looking for John Young. Information from family indicates that he was the father of Amanda Young b. 1816 Columbia Co. Pa. She married William Robinson Evans Feb. 1838 in Columbia County Pa. Amanda Young Evans died March , 1900 Adair County Iowa and William R. Evans her husband died July 5 1899 Adair County Iowa. Both are buried in Sunnyhill Cemetery near the city of Adair, Iowa. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely Nancy M. Boyd

That went before I was ready. I meant to say this links to the Genealogy and Historical Society page and has many wonderful links here. Terri Cook updates this page often. If doing Columbia county research this is one page you need to bookmark. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacolumb/cchome.htm? Researching: ASH/ESCH - MUSSELMAN - ROUGH, Daniel - STRASSER/STRAUSER - And any connections to these main lines. Thanks Sue Ellen Ash

Here is a link that will get you to the Genealogy and Historical Society online pages. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacolumb/cchome.htm?

Here is a site for some of the cemeteries that are on line, and the location of all of them known. sorry Freewill isnt online here. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacolumb/cemmain.htm

Hello List, Has anyone had any experience with getting burial records from whomever is the cemetery director of the Freewill United Brethren Cemetery in Roaring Creek Township, Columbia County, PA? Would anyone have an address for the cemetery and the director? Thanks for your help. Jim

There is a Henry H. Hoffman buried at the Freewill U.B. Cemetery, Roaring Creek Twp, Columbia County. "Burials of Columbia and Montour Counties", by Dr. Joseph Meiser, 3rd Edition 1998 Page 296: Hoffman, Harry H. 1860 - 1906 also listed is: Hoffman, Samuel J. 1826 - 1892 Wife: Phoeba 1826-1921 Hoffman, Benj F. 1877 - 1926 If there are any other names you wish me to research, please let me know. Genealogy is not only the study of one's family but the sharing of information with others. Gary L. Roberts Texas http://pages.prodigy.net/g.roberts/homepage.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jim [mailto:jmcand@usnetway.com] Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 8:23 PM To: PACOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Henry H. Hoffman 1862-1906 Hello List Members, I'm new to this list and am hoping someone can steer me to a cemetery where Henry H. Hoffman might be buried. He was born in Catawissa, PA about 1862 and lived in Grand Tunnel, Plymouth Twp., Luzerne Co., PA when he died on December 26, 1906. The notice of his death in the Wilkes-Barre Record indicated his body was transported by train to Catawissa for interment. His death certificate should have been on record at Vital Records in New Castle, PA. January 1906 is when death records were centralized in New Castle. However, they indicated no record is on file. Does anyone have ties to a Hoffman family in Catawissa that might know where he is buried? Thanks for your help, Jim ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Hello List Members, I'm new to this list and am hoping someone can steer me to a cemetery where Henry H. Hoffman might be buried. He was born in Catawissa, PA about 1862 and lived in Grand Tunnel, Plymouth Twp., Luzerne Co., PA when he died on December 26, 1906. The notice of his death in the Wilkes-Barre Record indicated his body was transported by train to Catawissa for interment. His death certificate should have been on record at Vital Records in New Castle, PA. January 1906 is when death records were centralized in New Castle. However, they indicated no record is on file. Does anyone have ties to a Hoffman family in Catawissa that might know where he is buried? Thanks for your help, Jim

In reference to the Hughes family- You have your dates mixed upon the Counties: Lancaster Co. 1729 ; Cumberland Co. 1750 included area now Centre Co.; Bedford Co .was taken out of Cumberland Co. in 1770 and included what is now the western half of Centre Co.; Northumberland Co formed 1772 and included all but the southwestern corner of present Centre Co.. In 1789 Mifflin Co. was formed & included what is now Centre Co.,which finally was erected as a County & included part of current Clinton Co. which was formed in 1800. Columbia Co. was formed in 1813 from Northumberland Co. All this was taken from the wonderful " Pennsylvania Line "book available in some Libraries. The Hughes family of Columbia Co. were I understand, Quakers. Hope this helps some of you. Loraine Danville, PA

Seeking info on John and James Hughes who came into the Bellefonte, Pa area in 1767 as listed in the area History. I understand that Northumberland Co was formed from Columbia Co., and in 1800 Centre Co. was then formed. My ancestor is Henry B. Hughes b. abt. 1785 who married Martha Jane (maiden name unkknown) They raised a family in Bellefonte, Pa (Spring Township which was Upper Bald Eagle Twp.) Children: Sarah Hughes b. 1805 m. William Carlisle Ferguson Jane Hughes b. abt.1815 Elizabeth Hughes b. abt. 1820 m. Amos Fauver 1838 in Bellefonte, Pa Isabella Hughes b. 1822 m. William Mallery John Davis Hughes b. 1824 m. Hannah Hicks in 1846, Bellefonte, dtr of Isaac Hicks and Hannah Lamborn *my line Henry Hughes b. abt. 1829 James Harry Hughes b. 1831 m. Mary Jane Rhoades My GGGrandfather, John Davis Hughes settled in Altoona, Pa (Blair Co.) in 1876. At the Blair Co. Genelogical Soc. I found a lot of family history and it stated that John Davis Hughes Father was James Hughes and the Grandfather John Hughes came from Wales into Bellefonte area in early manhood. (The Henry listed above could be a middle name) There also was an Annie Melissa Hughes of Wheeling, WVA, dtr. of John & Eliza S. Hughes, who was the third wife of William Garrett, according to the Lamborn Family History book written by Samuel Lamborn. Also a Belle Hughes who was the second wife of Robert Hamilton Reed and they lived in Elliott, Iowa. Is anyone else researching this line or have any information? Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl Hi I am also researching the Hughes surname in . PA . In 1767 in Bellefonte area there was a John and James Hughes listed in the area History. My ancestor is Henry B. Hughes b. abt. 1785 who married Martha Jane (maiden name unkknown) They raised a family in Bellefonte, Pa (Spring Township which was Upper Bald Eagle Twp.) Children: Sarah Hughes b. 1805 m. William Carlisle Ferguson Jane Hughes b. abt.1815 Elizabeth Hughes b. abt. 1820 m. Amos Fauver 1838 in Bellefonte, Pa Isabella Hughes b. 1822 m. William Mallery John Davis Hughes b. 1824 m. Hannah Hicks in 1846, Bellefonte, dtr of Isaac Hicks and Hannah Lamborn *my line Henry Hughes b. abt. 1829 James Harry Hughes b. 1831 m. Mary Jane Rhoades My GGGrandfather, John Davis Hughes settled in Altoona, Pa (Blair Co.) in 1876. At the Blair Co. Genelogical Soc. I found a lot of family history and it stated that John Davis Hughes Father was James Hughes and the Grandfather John Hughes came from Wales into Bellefonte area in early manhood. (The Henry listed above could be a middle name) There also was an Annie Melissa Hughes of Wheeling, WVA, dtr. of John & Eliza S. Hughes, who was the third wife of William Garrett, according to the Lamborn Family History book written by Samuel Lamborn. Is any of the above familiar? Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

One more thing abt scanners. I just read my new Ancestry magazine last night. There is a small article about scanners. It said be sure to consider and/or get the following: 1.Legal size flattray scanner if doing documents and photos 2.Resolutions in dots per inch DPT at least 300DPt 3. Color and black and white features as some only do black and white 4.Accompanying software if wanted 5. If planning to do photos be sure to get scanner that comes with at least a light version of OCR. Optical Character Recognition. Hope this helps everyone shopping for scanners. We need to get those photos scanned. One cousin has some wonderful old photos up of downtown Bloomsburg tractor company, as well as her family's old homestead and other county photos. They show us what a good scanner can to for us with sending photos by web. she also sent me the URL to remind me that the Genealogy and Historical society is now posting early photos of Columbia county scenes on their website. SEA

I am getting ready to purchase another scanner also. I had one last year, but sold my desktop pc and printer and scanner as a unit. I am going to purchase a flatbed scanner, as I don't like the ones that you have to feed things thru, like a fax machine. As for old pictures, it won't work. The last one I bought, I got at Best Buy, and it was Visioneer 6100B. It was only 95.00, and I did get a rebate off of that. They usually have pretty good deals there. I was very happy with the scanner, as I scanned pictures of tomstone's to put on a website. It also did very well with old pictures. There was also a program you could buy, where you could fix old photo's, as to take lines where they've been cracked, etc. The program was $70.00. I called a studio, and they said to fix one picture I have, it would cost $250.00. You can also scan to disk, or print out the pictures. To print them out on regular paper is a waste, as they take so much ink, as most of them have alot of black in the pictures. You can get the Kodak paper to print them on also. I just take my old pictures to Walmart Supercenter, where they have the copy machine that copies old pictures onto Kodak paper, and one sheet cost $7, and you can make whatever size you want. That does the best job, and I don't have to leave my priceless pictures with anyone I don't think you have to spend alot of money to get a good scanner, you just have to compare apples to apples!!!! Hope this helps!!! Sheri

I agree that the "donating" of these stones was a great disservice to the ancestors of the deceased. I would have never found out my Daniel Yetters' birth date except for finding his marker in a Catawissa cemetery. Does anyone know if new markers were plced on the relocated graves? Bruce Starner Yetter

I recently bought a HP Scan Jet 4200c and I really like it. It scans fast and the quality is really good. You can scan to a file, or scan to a printer or scan to a work document. It was about $140 and I got it Office Depot. Genealogy is not only the study of one's family but the sharing of information with others. Gary L. Roberts Texas http://pages.prodigy.net/g.roberts/homepage.htm -----Original Message----- From: LWA101@aol.com [mailto:LWA101@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:40 AM To: PACOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Scanners I'm interested in purchasing a scanner. Anyone want to share experiences with them? I see the prices range from about $80 to about $800. What's the difference? Thanks, Laura ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

I'm interested in purchasing a scanner. Anyone want to share experiences with them? I see the prices range from about $80 to about $800. What's the difference? Thanks, Laura

The church I belong to always goes outside the church for a secretary. They used to hire within but quite a few years decided to go outside the church as a matter of course. Never told the congregation why. So I guess it is not unusual for the secretary not to be a member of the church.

<smile> Maybe all of us "Genealogist" should start a polite letter writing campaign to local churches and the ones we are interested in gathering records from and let them know what questions to expect from researchers who are bound to come knocking at their doors so they can be prepared for us. 'Cuz I don't see the number of people decreasing in the near future but rather increasing. My husband got interested in just watching me and started on his family. He is luckier than I since his family all lived close to where we are at now. Just today he went to a local cemetery and used up a roll of film. Earlier in the morning he was scanning photos he'd taken in the past week or so. These were all of just his ancestors. The cemetery is in Obelisk, Pa. (The Twp I think was Frederick, which is now Upper and Lower Frederick) Surnames: WAGNER, RICHARD(S), GEBERT...) Oh, just kidding about the letter writing campaign. The churches are aware of us already, but you'd think they would be better prepared. Most of the secretaries we have encountered are extremely helpful, the ones who have been for sometime accommodating us researchers. <smile> I think they enjoy our company and the pleasant break in the work they were doing. Thyme

In a message dated 04/26/2000 3:53:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Thyme1954@aol.com writes: > One other curious thing, 2 out of the 3 churches have secretaries that are > not members of the church that employs them. NOT THAT UNCOMMON AT ALL. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO PROFESSES TO HAVE NO RELIGION, BUT SHE IS SECRETARY AT A VERY STRICT BIBLE CHURCH. I WOULD IMAGINE THE CHURCH WOULD HIRE FROM WITHIN FIRST, IF THEY HAD A CONGRAGANT WHO WANTED THE JOB, BUT IF NO ONE WHO BELONGS WANTS THE JOB, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE THE CHURCH TO HIRE. > So, friends, don't give up hope. If you are looking for an ancestor 1-200 > yrs > ago, look at the cemetery and see where the older tombstones are. Go > directly > to them and start reading. ANOTHER HELPFUL TIP IS THAT IF YOUR ANCESTOR (MALE) SERVED IN THE MILITARY, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT SOME CEMETERY ASSOCIATION OR LOCAL AMERICAN LEGION OR DAR/SAR HAS PUT FLAGS ON THE GRAVES. I FOUND AN ANCESTOR IN A VERY LARGE CEMETERY BY GOING TO THE OLDER SECTION OF THE CEM. AND CHECKING OUT ALL GRAVES WITH FLAGS. FOUND 5 GRAVES THAT WAY. > Back to my original question, What do you do when the churches say, they > don't have ANY records and you know they must and you don't want to offend > anyone to hurt your chances of later obtaining them? OTHER THAN INQUIRE AS TO WHETHER THEY CAN SUGGEST SOME WAY TO LOCATE SAID RECORDS, THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT YOU CAN DO. ONE OLD LUTHERAN CHURCH IN OUR AREA HAS NO RECORDS, AND I FOUND THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE THAT ONE OF THE FORMER PASTORS HAD THE RECORDS, AND SOMEHOW THEY WERE HANDED DOWN IN HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY RATHER THAN BEING KEPT WITH THE CHURCH. THE PASTOR'S DESCENDANT HOLDS THEM PRIVATELY AND IS UNWILLING, FOR SOME REASON, TO LET OTHERS SEE THE RECORDS. NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO IN A CASE LIKE THIS. Vicki

The grave of LEVI should be found at New Rosemont Cemetery in Espy,PA. When they built the new school, some of the bodies were moved from Old Rosemont Cemetery to New Rosemont. The work was carefully done and new stones were put on their graves, which is probably why the old marble stones were given away. They are in a section all by themslves all with the same kind of stones. I hope the lady in Bloomsburg finds her LEVI at New Rosemont.

Thyme, Thyme wrote: "The 2nd said, go to the church that broke off from theirs, they had all the church records, for both churches. So, the original church had the cemetery, the one which broke away had the records." In have a copy of the journal of my G,G,G, Grandfather; he was a minister. In the journal he recounts a trial of faith for him. The church that he belonged to split - and the split was not friendly. There were very hard feelings and the secondary church had the original church records in their possession at the time of the split. As a result of the hard feelings the records were never returned to the original church - even though they were relevant only to that church. My point is only that not all splits seem to have been friendly, nor do they always happen with any order. This might explain why records for a church could be found at a secondary church. Josiah WHitaker in Portland, OR

Hello, You have a mighty interesting story! I find it hard to believe that you were refered to a church that "broke off" the orginal would have the records. You'd think general rule is that the orginal church would keep all the records. The new church would start thier own! You did right by asking for the Pastor of the church instead of asking someone employed by the church. Most of the time, the secretary doesn't know, specially if she isn't a memeber. There's a small, but very old church, in the town I grew up in located in CT. We're very lucky to have volunteers from the chruch to do general office work. PLUS have one of the members has the church historian, BUT he is also the Town Historian as well. Next time, ask if by chance they have a church historian... once you get to a member of the church if not the Pator, Priest, Minister, Rabi. Regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <Thyme1954@aol.com> To: <PACOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Got a question about church records- > Hi > In the past 3 weeks, I have gone to 3 churches and have asked if they had any > birth, death and/or marriage records. In all 3 cases they said they had no > records of any kind. > One did say whatever theirs were, were sent to Lancaster Theological > Seminary. They gave me a copy of the list of records sent to them but none > having to do with the records I inquired about. > The 2nd said, go to the church that broke off from theirs, they had all the > church records, for both churches. So, the original church had the cemetery, > the one which broke away had the records. Explain that. By the way, at this > church, the original, a large portion of ground used for the cemetery no > longer has any tombstones. Instead there are several large signs in the > middle, spaced a distance apart, listing all the names of the people who > originally had a tombstone. > The 3rd church also says there are no records of any kind. I asked if there > was a phone number for the church so that I could call and ask someone else > regarding church records. They didn't know the churches tele. number, or the > Pastor's..And this woman works in their office. When I asked for the Pastor's > tele. number and maybe the church had a business type card with a number, > suddenly her memory came back and she retrieved one from the desk. > Now I always offer to make a donation to the church for their assistance and > offer to pay for the cost of photocopying. > One other curious thing, 2 out of the 3 churches have secretaries that are > not members of the church that employs them. One attends a 4th church. All 4 > of which I have been referring to. > Fortunately there is an upside to this story. The last church/cemetary we > went to we were extremely lucky to find all three tombstones we went to > find. Especially since this cemetery is expansive! They were all in the first > 5 rows next to the road. And the 3rd tombstone was also by sheer luck because > by that time we had given up hope of finding it and I just wanted to look at > others and see how interesting they were written. Then suddenly I saw the > family name I was looking for. > So, friends, don't give up hope. If you are looking for an ancestor 1-200 yrs > ago, look at the cemetery and see where the older tombstones are. Go directly > to them and start reading. > Back to my original question, What do you do when the churches say, they > don't have ANY records and you know they must and you don't want to offend > anyone to hurt your chances of later obtaining them? > > -Thyme > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >