Hello Lee & Ron & Clinton Co. researchers, We just received the death cert. for Able (spelled this way on cert.) and to our sad dismay, it did not have his parents listed. But on the upside, it listed his birthplace as Bradford, PA. Now where his mother's maiden name was suppose to have been, it had his wife's name & maiden name (Elizabeth Meyeres & her birth place as Hyneer PA.) We know for certain this Abel was married to Elizabeth Mayers or Meyers (Mayers on her brother's death cert., Meyeres on this death cert.) There is also another discrepuncy: On the census of 1900, Clinton Co., Leidy twp., PA. it shows Able to have been born in Feb. of 1824. But on this death cert. it says that he was born March 28, 1825. place of death: Leidy, Clinton Co., PA. died Nov. 26, 1909 of Epthecal Cancer, buried at Tamarack, Clinton Co., PA. on Nov. 28, 1909. Undertaker: F. ___?_. Mears, Cross Forks, PA. Registrar A. G. Calhoun Nov. 27 1909. What I need to know from either of you, Lee & Ron, is this: Was there only one family of Newell in Bradford Co., PA. around 1824-30???? Thank you for posting your work on rootsweb! Ken & Dianne Croak

Is there a mailing list for Dunstown? Thanks, Roslyn

Can anyone tell me whether St. John's Lutheran Church still exists in or around Lock Haven? If so, what is the address? Also, is there a telephone number for Dunnstown Cemetery? Thanks for any help, C. Outhier

We are seeking information regarding John WILKINSON and his wife Hannah. They are said to have died in Cedar county. The information I have for John is that he died 11 Nov 1896 at Tipton, Cedar, Iowa And for Hannah died 1891 at Bennett, Cedar, Iowa. They had a son Thomas who died in Colorado. Any information would be helpful Thank you in advance Carolyn

I got this from another list and felt it was important enough to pass along. Mike Wennin Coordinator Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Onbey <sangen@usit.net> To: <VAFAUQUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: Help us save our cemeteries > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01FB_01BFE5B0.4C77FD00 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello Everyone... > > I thought this was important enough that I wanted to share it with all = > of you. The following letter was written by Ron Eason and he said it so = > very well that I asked for permission to forward it to all of you = > (permission was granted). Listowners, I hope that you will consent to = > post this also. > > Our heritage is being destroyed by government and uncaring individuals = > in the name of progress or just lack of interest. We MUST take steps to = > preserve it somehow. Won't you please read this and join us in signing = > the petition...we have over 6300 signatures already, but that is just a = > drop in the bucket...please help. > > Sandy > > Hi cousins and friends! Your help will be appreciated. > > I know that most of you are into genealogy as I am and if you > have ever visited an older cemetery, you know what deplorable > condition many of them are in. Are you aware that many states > permit building on cemeteries if they are beyond a certain age? > > Firms will bulldoze right over headstones without so much as > an "I'm sorry that we're burying your ancestors and their history > will be permanently lost but that's business." It's too late for > many family gravesites and older cemeteries but something > can be done to preserve what is left and I would appreciate it > if you would take just a moment of your time to help. I have > just read and signed the online petition: > > "National Cemetery Protection Act" > > hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online > petition service, at: > > http://www.petitiononline.com/sg0001/petition.html > > I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you > might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, > and consider signing yourself. > > Whether or not you feel that this is an important issue, I would also > app > > > ==== VAFAUQUI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Yvonne James-Henderson,list administrator mailto:hen1@idt.net > with questions concerning this list! > >

Colette, I apologize. I over-reacted; however, I was not offended in the least. Old turtles like me have very hard shells. Several times prior to this, I spent hours getting information for people, only to discover they had asked someone else to get it also. I am currently working on 17 research projects for people and I want to help all of them, but I don't want my work to be duplicated when I could have been helping others. Fear not, I will get you the information you need; not as an act of random kindness, but the love to helping people with their genealogical quests. Incidentally, the "Gloria" you refer to is my sister. Justin Houser is a great guy, but he lives in Centre county and would have to make a special trip to help you. Peace. Bob Outhier wrote: > Shotgun - Absolutely not. > > I received the list of Bartleys from a lady named Gloria who was kind enough > to take the time from her own projects to check the Ross Library. As Gloria > was obviously a busy lady, I thanked her and asked for no further > assistance. > > I contacted several e-mail addresses at the local newspaper asking if I > could obtain copies of past articles (The obits from the Ross Library list). > I never heard from anybody. > > I contacted the Ross library and asked if I could obtain copies from them. > I never heard from them either. > > I contacted one J.K. Houser about one (1) obit and didn't hear from him. > > I contacted you about the other articles and, after not hearing from J.K. > Houser about the last one, asked you to do that one also. The only reason I > would ask ANYBODY to look up five articles is that I understand they are all > available in the same place - the library. > > I would not presume to ask a bunch of people to run around for the same > purpose. I also would not presume to ask one person to run all over twelve > counties for any purpose. > > I am sorry to have offended you. So many people volunteer under "Random > Acts of Genealogical Kindness" and never reply. I have, in the past, waited > weeks before trying other avenues. Apparently this was not the case this > time. > > I have subscribed to the Clinton County and the Centre County Rootsweb > mailing lists and posted the Bartleys under the "Does anybody know them" > theory. I understand some of these lists do have volunteers but, to date, I > have not contacted them for any reason. > > Again, I am very sorry to have offended you and would not ask anyone to do > something which you have already indicated you would do. > > Colette > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Russell Schadt" <rschadt@cub.kcnet.org> > To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: Bartley > > > What's going on here - shotgunning? > > > > I am willing to help you; however, I don't want to do a lot of > unnecessary research. Also, when you contact others in this area, I would > like to know who, so we can touch base with each other to avoid duplicate > effort. This is a small town and "everyone knows everyone"! > > > > Bob Schadt > > > > > > > > Outhier wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Looking for family of BARTLEY, Alvin Wesley (b. @1859, d. 3/13/1927) and > wife Abbie Maude Battner (b. @1859, d. 11/3/1934). Both born in PA. > Resided in Lock Haven from at least 1880 until their deaths. I believe they > are both buried in Dunnstown. > > > > > > Alvin & Abbie and three children, HARRY BARTLEY, (b. 8/2/1880, d. > 9/14/9136), CHARLES BARTLEY, (b @ 3/1883), and THOMAS BARTLEY (b. @ 5/1892). > > > > > > I believe Alvin and/or Abbie came to Lock Haven from Centre County. It > is probable that their marriage occurred in Centre County. No marriage is > found in Clinton Co. > > > > > > CHARLES BARTLEY ultimately had two children, TORRENCE BARTLEY (b. > 9/1903, Phila), and a daughter, name/date unknown. I understand Charles' > wife died when the children were very young. TORRENCE is believed to have > lived with one grandparent for a short period of time and was then placed in > some sort of boys/foundling/orphan home. I believe this foundling home was > in the Clinton/Centre/Lycoming area. He surfaced in Omaha, NE in his > adulthood. > > > > > > Hoping someone will recognize a name (or the foundling home). > > > > > > Good luck with all of your searches, > > > > > > C. Outhier > > > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > > > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial > "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > -- > > MZ > > > > > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > > From 1772 to 1795 what is now Clinton County was Northumberland County > > > > ============================== > > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > Clinton County is the home of WOOLRICH INC, clothing manufacturer > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ -- MZ

Shotgun - Absolutely not. I received the list of Bartleys from a lady named Gloria who was kind enough to take the time from her own projects to check the Ross Library. As Gloria was obviously a busy lady, I thanked her and asked for no further assistance. I contacted several e-mail addresses at the local newspaper asking if I could obtain copies of past articles (The obits from the Ross Library list). I never heard from anybody. I contacted the Ross library and asked if I could obtain copies from them. I never heard from them either. I contacted one J.K. Houser about one (1) obit and didn't hear from him. I contacted you about the other articles and, after not hearing from J.K. Houser about the last one, asked you to do that one also. The only reason I would ask ANYBODY to look up five articles is that I understand they are all available in the same place - the library. I would not presume to ask a bunch of people to run around for the same purpose. I also would not presume to ask one person to run all over twelve counties for any purpose. I am sorry to have offended you. So many people volunteer under "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" and never reply. I have, in the past, waited weeks before trying other avenues. Apparently this was not the case this time. I have subscribed to the Clinton County and the Centre County Rootsweb mailing lists and posted the Bartleys under the "Does anybody know them" theory. I understand some of these lists do have volunteers but, to date, I have not contacted them for any reason. Again, I am very sorry to have offended you and would not ask anyone to do something which you have already indicated you would do. Colette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Russell Schadt" <rschadt@cub.kcnet.org> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Bartley > What's going on here - shotgunning? > > I am willing to help you; however, I don't want to do a lot of unnecessary research. Also, when you contact others in this area, I would like to know who, so we can touch base with each other to avoid duplicate effort. This is a small town and "everyone knows everyone"! > > Bob Schadt > > > > Outhier wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Looking for family of BARTLEY, Alvin Wesley (b. @1859, d. 3/13/1927) and wife Abbie Maude Battner (b. @1859, d. 11/3/1934). Both born in PA. Resided in Lock Haven from at least 1880 until their deaths. I believe they are both buried in Dunnstown. > > > > Alvin & Abbie and three children, HARRY BARTLEY, (b. 8/2/1880, d. 9/14/9136), CHARLES BARTLEY, (b @ 3/1883), and THOMAS BARTLEY (b. @ 5/1892). > > > > I believe Alvin and/or Abbie came to Lock Haven from Centre County. It is probable that their marriage occurred in Centre County. No marriage is found in Clinton Co. > > > > CHARLES BARTLEY ultimately had two children, TORRENCE BARTLEY (b. 9/1903, Phila), and a daughter, name/date unknown. I understand Charles' wife died when the children were very young. TORRENCE is believed to have lived with one grandparent for a short period of time and was then placed in some sort of boys/foundling/orphan home. I believe this foundling home was in the Clinton/Centre/Lycoming area. He surfaced in Omaha, NE in his adulthood. > > > > Hoping someone will recognize a name (or the foundling home). > > > > Good luck with all of your searches, > > > > C. Outhier > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > -- > MZ > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > From 1772 to 1795 what is now Clinton County was Northumberland County > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

What's going on here - shotgunning? I am willing to help you; however, I don't want to do a lot of unnecessary research. Also, when you contact others in this area, I would like to know who, so we can touch base with each other to avoid duplicate effort. This is a small town and “everyone knows everyone”! Bob Schadt Outhier wrote: > Hello, > > Looking for family of BARTLEY, Alvin Wesley (b. @1859, d. 3/13/1927) and wife Abbie Maude Battner (b. @1859, d. 11/3/1934). Both born in PA. Resided in Lock Haven from at least 1880 until their deaths. I believe they are both buried in Dunnstown. > > Alvin & Abbie and three children, HARRY BARTLEY, (b. 8/2/1880, d. 9/14/9136), CHARLES BARTLEY, (b @ 3/1883), and THOMAS BARTLEY (b. @ 5/1892). > > I believe Alvin and/or Abbie came to Lock Haven from Centre County. It is probable that their marriage occurred in Centre County. No marriage is found in Clinton Co. > > CHARLES BARTLEY ultimately had two children, TORRENCE BARTLEY (b. 9/1903, Phila), and a daughter, name/date unknown. I understand Charles' wife died when the children were very young. TORRENCE is believed to have lived with one grandparent for a short period of time and was then placed in some sort of boys/foundling/orphan home. I believe this foundling home was in the Clinton/Centre/Lycoming area. He surfaced in Omaha, NE in his adulthood. > > Hoping someone will recognize a name (or the foundling home). > > Good luck with all of your searches, > > C. Outhier > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ -- MZ

Hello, Looking for family of BARTLEY, Alvin Wesley (b. @1859, d. 3/13/1927) and wife Abbie Maude Battner (b. @1859, d. 11/3/1934). Both born in PA. Resided in Lock Haven from at least 1880 until their deaths. I believe they are both buried in Dunnstown. Alvin & Abbie and three children, HARRY BARTLEY, (b. 8/2/1880, d. 9/14/9136), CHARLES BARTLEY, (b @ 3/1883), and THOMAS BARTLEY (b. @ 5/1892). I believe Alvin and/or Abbie came to Lock Haven from Centre County. It is probable that their marriage occurred in Centre County. No marriage is found in Clinton Co. CHARLES BARTLEY ultimately had two children, TORRENCE BARTLEY (b. 9/1903, Phila), and a daughter, name/date unknown. I understand Charles' wife died when the children were very young. TORRENCE is believed to have lived with one grandparent for a short period of time and was then placed in some sort of boys/foundling/orphan home. I believe this foundling home was in the Clinton/Centre/Lycoming area. He surfaced in Omaha, NE in his adulthood. Hoping someone will recognize a name (or the foundling home). Good luck with all of your searches, C. Outhier

go to Lockhaven.com will take you to the newspaper

Hi List Looking for marriage or marriages of Jacob Kepler, Jr. he was 38 on the 1860 census, Chapman Township. P.O. Youngwomanstown. Can't clearly make out wife's name she is 30, I have him married to Louisa later. The oldest child on the census is Irwin (Irving) D. is 7. Karen proprintal@aol.com

Hazzards of a census taker............ Pack of dogs attack, kill Census worker Associated Press NASHVILLE, Ind. --A pack of dogs attacked and killed a 71-year-old Census Bureau worker who walked past warning signs in an attempt to count the occupants of an isolated, rural home. An autopsy showed that Dorothy Stewart died from injuries suffered during the attack, Brown County prosecutor Jim Oliver said Monday. When sheriff's deputies arrived at the home Saturday, they found Stewart's body about 3 feet from the front door of the one-story log cabin, surrounded by dogs. The dogs -- deputies counted more than 20 -- were chewing on Stewart's arms and legs, Brown County Sheriff Dan Huesman said. The driveway posted "Beware of Dog" and "No Trespassing" signs. "Some were on chains, some were loose and some were in the house," Huesman said. "We were able to capture at least 12 dogs. We captured as many as we could." One dog was shot because it attacked an officer, Huesman said. Investigators were not sure how many of the dogs belonged to the homeowner, Wayne Newton, and how many were strays. "They have denied that the dogs were theirs," Oliver said. "We have reason to disbelieve that. Mostly because the complaints indicate there were always many more dogs there than the few that they claim to have." Oliver said the investigation into Stewart's death will continue, and he hasn't ruled out criminal charges. Officials at the Census Bureau's national office said they could not recall any incidents similar to this.

Could I please get someone to look up and email an obituary for me, for my Great Grandmother, Nola Elizabeth Ludlow Summers. She died April 29, 1965 in Clinton Co., PA and was buried May 2, 1965 in Cedar Hill Cemetery, Mill Hall, PA. Any help would be appreciated. Polly

I am needing cemetery listings for Samuel Kepler, born abt.1797 and his wife, Nancy born abt.1803. I cannot access Clinton Co. webpages to post a query right now. Thanks alot, Dianne

Someone was looking at one time for the surname Grove. I found this while reading through "The History of the Counties of Dauphin and Lebanon in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", by William Henry Egle, 1883. Page 241, History of Lebanon County, Genealogical History: The Grove Family. I. Peter Grove, the ancestor of the family in Lebanon County, was a native of Switzerland, where he was born in 1724. He was an infant when he was brought to America, and until about the year 1750 resided near Lancaster. That year he located in Bethel township, now Lebanon County, where he lived until his death, in 1803. The dwelling he erected over a century ago is yet standing, and in the ownership of his grandchildren. His Children were: i. Jacob. ii. Peter. 2. iii. John. iv. Anna Barbara. v. Maria. vi. Veronica. II. John Grove (Peter), b. in 1768, in Bethel township, Lancaster, now Lebanon Co., Pa; d. in 1835, in Bethel township; m. Anna Elizabeth Wenner, b. 1785, in Berks County, Pa.; d. 1847, in Bethel twp., Lebanon Co., Pa. They had issue: i. John Peter. ii. John. iii. Jacob Wenner, b. 1816; m. Paulina Hautz, of Fredericksburg. iv. Michael I. v. Anna Barbara. vi. Elizabeth. vii. Elias. Diana

Thanks to all who responded to my question about papers from 1829. I'll check out Lycoming Co. The name of the person I'm researching, who allegedly died in 1829 in or near Lock Haven is CHRISTIAN CARTER. The surname MAY have been Carriher before 1829. BarbCB

Barb, The info on Seth McCormick is as follows; 10. Seth McCormick. An Irishman, occupied a cabin on South Creek, a branch of White Deer Hole creek, about a mile west of Swan's cabin. Seth died here on the 17th of January, 1835, in the 79th year of his age. His remains lie buried in the old Presbyterian, (now Lutheran) graveyard, at the "stone church," on the south west side of Penny Hill. He left a wife and nine children, and his descendents are still living here, and occupy a part of their great ancestors estate. 11. Thomas McCormick. An Irishman and brother of Seth's; occupied a cabin on South creek about half a mile from Seth's. He seems to have acted as Justice of the Peace for some years. He died on the 6th of October, 1826 aged 72 years, and his remains also lie buried in the old graveyard near the above "stone church." These bits were taken from the Article "White Deer Hole Valley", by J. F. Wolfinger that was in the Daily Lycoming Gazette & West Branch Bulliten on Sept 9, 1870 page 4. The article speaks of the fourteen original families that settled in the valley in 1787.

Check the Pennsylvania State Library...do a search for CLINTON County and a list of all that they have will show up. They have many newspapers from around the State on microfilm and they can be borrowed via interlibrary loan free of charge. http://accesspa.brodart.com/ Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Blossom <barbblossom@webtv.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: Old Newspapers > Can anyone tell me if there were any newspapers published in the Lock > Haven area in 1829 that might contain death notices? And if so, are they > available anywhere? > Thanks. > BarbCB > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > >From 1772 to 1795 what is now Clinton County was Northumberland County > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

That date is very early for a "Lock Haven" Newspaper. The Ross Library, in L.H., has a card index file of Obits, births, etc., from the local newspapers. But I really think 1829 is too early for those records. Clinton COunty was formed in 1839, and this is 10 years prior to that, so I would look into Lycoming County for something. I am not sure how far back deaths were registered on the county level in Lyco. Co. You could try the Lyco. Co Courthouse, master death books.(if they have them) I think State law mandated deaths be recorded about 1894. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Blossom" <barbblossom@webtv.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: Old Newspapers > Can anyone tell me if there were any newspapers published in the Lock > Haven area in 1829 that might contain death notices? And if so, are they > available anywhere? > Thanks. > BarbCB > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > >From 1772 to 1795 what is now Clinton County was Northumberland County > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Barbara, the Ross Library in LH keeps a card file of BMDs going back that far. You might try the Brown Library in Williamsport since LH was part of Lycoming County that date. You will probably not get the obit, but the pertinent data. Good Luck, Please note NEW email address Dick Deise, 199 Carolyn Road, Union, NJ 07083-9402 ddeise@bigfoot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Blossom" <barbblossom@webtv.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: Old Newspapers > Can anyone tell me if there were any newspapers published in the Lock > Haven area in 1829 that might contain death notices? And if so, are they > available anywhere? > Thanks. > BarbCB > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > From 1772 to 1795 what is now Clinton County was Northumberland County > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >