Hi Seeking info on Catherine HEWS and Daniel RYNARD, both of Spring Twp., Centre Co., Pa. ~ they were married in 1831 and moved to Altoona, Pa. Catherine Renner was b. 1810 and died in 1902 and is buried in Fairview Cem. Altoona, Pa. in the Hughes family plot. Does anyone have these names in their family tree or have any info? Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Hi Folks! Thanks for the responses to my earlier post and query. I have some new information that may help. I found the family in the 1910 census for Leidy TWP. Henry Snyder, 58 years old born in Wisconsin of German born parents. Henry was married 21 years to Mary Myers who was 37. She and her parents were born in PA. She had 10 kids with 8 living at the time of the census. Children were: Fred 21 Frank 17 Forest 15 Theodore 9 Arlington (my cousin's grandfather) 5 Millie 3 and Victor 1 They do not seem to be related to another Fred Snyder (25) married to Ruby (24) with children Raymon and Delphia. Nearby is possibly his mother Lucinda 58, widowed and her son Raymon 31 a widower. All of these folks were born in PA of PA born parents. Now can anyone help? :) Mike Wennin Come Visit the Cameron County Genealogy Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacamero

George, Yes they are for sale there. The Maynard book is great. Steve Miller -----Original Message----- From: George [mailto:sum1@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 5:23 PM To: PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Interesting Clinton Co. Books I found these books on the Ross website: I think they might be for sale. http://www.kcsd.k12.pa.us/~ross/library/shop.html George **************************************************************************** ********* WE ASCRIBE TO THE ROOTSWEB STANDARD OF PUTTING LOCALITY AND SURNAME ON SUBJECT LINE **************************************************************************** ********* ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== Lock Haven is the County Seat for Clinton County ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

I found these books on the Ross website: I think they might be for sale. http://www.kcsd.k12.pa.us/~ross/library/shop.html George **************************************************************************** ********* WE ASCRIBE TO THE ROOTSWEB STANDARD OF PUTTING LOCALITY AND SURNAME ON SUBJECT LINE **************************************************************************** *********

At 10:31 AM 8/8/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi George - A visit to the Ross Library in Lock Haven is certainly worth your time >if you have Clinton County ancestors. In my opinion, it is the very best >genealogical research library in this area. In all the years I have been doing >genealogical research, I have never failed to find fascinating, sometimes >"break-thru", information on my ancestors when visiting the Ross Library. It is a >treasure! > >Best of luck, Gloria Harbach > > > > >==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== >Clinton County Was formed in 1839 from parts of Lycoming County and Centre County > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > >Thanks, Gloria. I will probably take a trip there in the Fall. George

At 04:33 PM 8/7/00 -0400, you wrote: >George, > And you need more? I think you answered yourself, in your email. The >file of 10,000(prob more) is a reference file of newspaper clippings of >tradgedies, births, weddings, funerals, plus the extensive photo collection, >is also referenced within the files. There are early orphans court and >marriage applications on microfilm. As well as the Cl Co Census, neighboring >counties census. There are many rolls of newspapers on microfilm. In the >Pennsylvania room many local history books, dating to the 1800's, donated >genealogies, (1 1/2 stacks of them) If anyone lives on the moon, the trip >may be too expensive, but anywhere else, it is not a waste of money. BTW, >Lock Haven is only a half hour drive from Williamsport, Lycoming >County(Brown Library), and a little over a half hour to either Penn State >Univ Library(Pattee), or the historical library in Bellefonte, Centre >County. >DAve >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George" <sum1@optonline.net> >To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:23 PM >Subject: Ross Library Holdings > > >> Can anyone tell me if it is worth a trip to view the holdings at the Ross >> Library. I am aware that they have a name index with +100,000 entries, >> and. I am aware that they have microfilms of newspapers. What else do >they >> have? George Reamer >> >> Note: Please note the new email address. >> >> >> ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== >> The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" >from the lumbering days. >> >> ============================== >> Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >> RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >> http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >> >> > > >==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== >The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > >============================== >Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: >Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at >http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > > >Thanks Dave. I will probably find my way out there in the Fall. George

Hi George - A visit to the Ross Library in Lock Haven is certainly worth your time if you have Clinton County ancestors. In my opinion, it is the very best genealogical research library in this area. In all the years I have been doing genealogical research, I have never failed to find fascinating, sometimes "break-thru", information on my ancestors when visiting the Ross Library. It is a treasure! Best of luck, Gloria Harbach

George, And you need more? I think you answered yourself, in your email. The file of 10,000(prob more) is a reference file of newspaper clippings of tradgedies, births, weddings, funerals, plus the extensive photo collection, is also referenced within the files. There are early orphans court and marriage applications on microfilm. As well as the Cl Co Census, neighboring counties census. There are many rolls of newspapers on microfilm. In the Pennsylvania room many local history books, dating to the 1800's, donated genealogies, (1 1/2 stacks of them) If anyone lives on the moon, the trip may be too expensive, but anywhere else, it is not a waste of money. BTW, Lock Haven is only a half hour drive from Williamsport, Lycoming County(Brown Library), and a little over a half hour to either Penn State Univ Library(Pattee), or the historical library in Bellefonte, Centre County. DAve ----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <sum1@optonline.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:23 PM Subject: Ross Library Holdings > Can anyone tell me if it is worth a trip to view the holdings at the Ross > Library. I am aware that they have a name index with +100,000 entries, > and. I am aware that they have microfilms of newspapers. What else do they > have? George Reamer > > Note: Please note the new email address. > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

Can anyone tell me if it is worth a trip to view the holdings at the Ross Library. I am aware that they have a name index with +100,000 entries, and. I am aware that they have microfilms of newspapers. What else do they have? George Reamer Note: Please note the new email address.

Dee, Glad to have been some help. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Shaffer-Zito" <bdgzito@worldnet.att.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Lydia Smith > Dave, > Thanks a million! :~) These are the Smith's I was looking for. Sorry to > have interrupted the flow on Norm's original message. > > Thanks again for the help, > Dee Zito > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Wallace" <dwallace@cub.kcnet.org> > To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:20 AM > Subject: Re: KALER / LAMEY / MULLANEY / SMITH > > > > Here is a burial for a Lydia Lucas Smith and maybe some family members as > > the burials are next to one another. This information has not been proof > > read, so may contain errors. > > Dave > > ***************************************************************** > > Smith, Annie S., "Mother", 1874 - 1948 > > 5. Smith, William E., 1877 - 1956 > > Smith, Lydia Lucas, 1885 - 1917 > > ****************************************************************** > > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > Clinton County is the home of the PIPER CUB > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > >

Dave, Thanks a million! :~) These are the Smith's I was looking for. Sorry to have interrupted the flow on Norm's original message. Thanks again for the help, Dee Zito ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Wallace" <dwallace@cub.kcnet.org> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:20 AM Subject: Re: KALER / LAMEY / MULLANEY / SMITH > Here is a burial for a Lydia Lucas Smith and maybe some family members as > the burials are next to one another. This information has not been proof > read, so may contain errors. > Dave > ***************************************************************** > Smith, Annie S., "Mother", 1874 - 1948 > 5. Smith, William E., 1877 - 1956 > Smith, Lydia Lucas, 1885 - 1917 > ******************************************************************

Here is a burial for a Lydia Lucas Smith and maybe some family members as the burials are next to one another. This information has not been proof read, so may contain errors. Dave ***************************************************************** Smith, Annie S., "Mother", 1874 - 1948 5. Smith, William E., 1877 - 1956 Smith, Lydia Lucas, 1885 - 1917 ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Shaffer-Zito" <bdgzito@worldnet.att.net> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: Re: KALER / LAMEY / MULLANEY / SMITH > Slightly off the subject: Does anyone have any more info on the Lydia Smith > mentioned below? > > I have a Lydia Smith (maiden name unknown) who married William Smith (b > 1870-1875). Lydia & William had 3 children: Barney, Viola & Leroy. I think > Lydia & William might have divorced or Lydia died at a fairly young age; but > William lived in North Bend (near Renovo) with his 2nd wife, Annie, who he > married in 1920. Any leads appreciated. > > Thanks, > Dee >

Hi Norm, Thank you for the posting to this list! This fills in a line for a few researchers who subscribe to this list, including me. Please see below for the name of the man named LAMEY. I did not have his wifes maiden name, I do have a birth year for her, but I am unsure where I located the date, but maybe from a census. Dave, Any one connected, please advise me of any corrections, or additions. Descendants of John Lamey,Sr 1 John Lamey,Sr b: Abt. 1800 in Miles Twp, Center County d: 1873 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa . +Elizabeth b: 1800 m: 1821 d: in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa ...... 2 Susanna Lamey b: 1824 in Logan Twp .......... +Peter Raudabaugh,Jr b: Abt. 1788 m: Abt. 1842 d: Abt. 1864 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .............. 3 Emmaline Raudabaugh b: Abt. 1854 .............. 3 Delilah Raudabaugh b: Abt. 1857 .............. 3 [1] Emanual Raudabaugh b: May 11, 1843 d: April 29, 1918 .................. +Eve Brungart b: 1850 m: Abt. 1873 d: July 17, 1887 .............. *2nd Wife of [1] Emanual Raudabaugh: .................. +Amanda Brungart Schroyer b: 1842 m: July 21, 1888 d: April 14, 1895 .............. 3 Joseph H Raudabaugh b: 1844 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: 1883 .................. +Henrietta Wolfe b: October 30, 1845 m: October 30, 1865 d: December 28, 1901 .............. 3 William Raudabaugh d: Bef. 1860 .............. 3 Arvilla Raudabaugh .............. 3 Arylla Raudabaugh b: Abt. 1852 .................. +Unknown Ludwig ...... 2 Christian Christ Lamey b: May 07, 1826 in Logan Twp d: November 26, 1898 .......... +Catherine Renninger b: December 20, 1827 in Logan Twp m: Abt. 1847 d: November 26, 1899 .............. 3 John Lamey b: 1848 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: 1850 .............. 3 David Lamey b: 1850 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: 1850 .............. 3 Adam Noah Lamey b: October 10, 1852 in Greene Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: December 09, 1925 .................. +Phoebe Agnus Esterline b: 1856 m: 1876 d: April 09, 1909 .............. 3 William Scott Lamey b: May 05, 1860 in Greene Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: June 29, 1935 .................. +Sarah Anne Condo b: July 16, 1861 m: July 27, 1884 in Rev Aurand d: November 13, 1935 .............. 3 Jacob Henry Lamey b: November 26, 1867 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: September 04, 1934 .................. +Gertrude Wise b: 1874 d: 1940 ...... 2 Mary Amelia Lamey b: August 14, 1828 in Logan Twp d: August 07, 1877 .......... +John Goodman b: 1812 d: February 23, 1889 .............. 3 Sarah Goodman b: 1848 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: February 25, 1906 .................. +John Fiedler b: January 25, 1842 d: February 20, 1926 .............. 3 Ambrose Goodman b: 1850 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .................. +Savilla Greninger b: 1859 m: August 31, 1890 d: September 13, 1894 .............. 3 Hiram Goodman b: 1854 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa d: September 19, 1898 .............. 3 John H Goodman b: 1856 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .............. 3 Mary Minerva Goodman b: 1858 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .............. 3 Elizabeth Goodman b: 1860 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .................. +George Wolfe m: 1881 .............. 3 Lydia H Goodman b: 1863 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .............. 3 William Goodman b: 1867 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .............. 3 Fayetta Goodman b: 1869 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa ...... 2 John Lamey,Jr b: April 20, 1831 in Logan Twp d: July 10, 1850 ...... 2 Philip Lamey b: 1835 in Logan Twp d: in Wiconisco Twp., Dauphin Co., PA .......... +Elizabeth Bogar b: in Port Trevorton, PA d: in Wiconisco Twp., Dauphin Co., PA ...... 2 William Lamey b: August 16, 1839 in Logan Twp d: February 13, 1924 .......... +Fietta E Heckman b: September 29, 1838 in Logan Twp m: April 15, 1865 in Schracktoen. d: April 10, 1908 .............. 3 Catherine Lamey b: March 09, 1866 .............. 3 Annie Lamey .............. 3 Susan Lamey .................. +Unknown Madiera ...... 2 Peter Lamey b: 1840 in Cherrytree Twp., Venango Co., PA ...... 2 Elizabeth Lamey b: 1842 in Cherrytree Twp., Venango Co., PA .......... +Melanyie ...... 2 Lydia Lamey b: 1845 in Cherrytree Twp., Venango Co., PA ...... 2 Delila Lamey b: 1848 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa .......... +John Henry Smith b: May 13, 1842 in Green Twp, Clinton Co, Pa m: April 24, 1867 d: April 23, 1925 in Saville, Perry Co., PA .............. 3 Harry Linwood Smith b: July 29, 1868 .................. +Anna Kleckner .............. 3 [2] Lydia Elizabeth Smith b: May 01, 1877 .................. +Frank Heller m: 1897 .............. *2nd Husband of [2] Lydia Elizabeth Smith: .................. +Edward Kurts Weaver m: 1900 .............. 3 William Garfield Smith b: July 11, 1881 .................. +Gertrude Bierly ...... 2 Michael Lamey b: September 08, 1833 in Logan Twp d: November 04, 1907 .......... +Mary Polly Geary b: February 08, 1835 d: August 19, 1909 .............. 3 John Adam Lamey b: April 04, 1855 in Milheim, PA d: May 07, 1855 .............. 3 Sarah Lamey b: December 1861 .................. +W Frank Colyer b: April 1861 in Centre Co., PA m: 1882 .............. 3 W. H. Lamey b: April 04, 1855 d: May 08, 1922 .................. +Catherine E b: January 1852 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Steffen" <nsteffen@olg.com> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 12:28 PM Subject: KALER / LAMEY / MULLANEY / SMITH > Another book on line.... > > I have the good forturne of having an 1899 book "A SKETCH OF THE KALER > FAMILY FOR THREE HUNDRED YEARS. " which can be found online at > > http://www.kneller.com/WhitleyIN/ > > I saw the following references to Clinton County and thought I would pass it > on. > > Elizabeth married a man named Lamey and died at Loganton, Clinton > County, Pennsylvania April 19, 1876, leaving a large family. Her children > still living are: Delila Smith, Loganton, Pennsylvania; Michael Lamey, > Millheim, Center County, Pennsylvania; Rev. William Lamey, Port-Treverton, > Pennsylvania; P. H Lamey, 2014 North Sixth Street, Harrisburg Pennsylvania; > Lydia Smith, Renovo, Clinton County, Pennsylvania and Lizzie Mullaney, 93 > East Main Street, Bradford, Pennsylvania. > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Slightly off the subject: Does anyone have any more info on the Lydia Smith mentioned below? I have a Lydia Smith (maiden name unknown) who married William Smith (b 1870-1875). Lydia & William had 3 children: Barney, Viola & Leroy. I think Lydia & William might have divorced or Lydia died at a fairly young age; but William lived in North Bend (near Renovo) with his 2nd wife, Annie, who he married in 1920. Any leads appreciated. Thanks, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Steffen" <nsteffen@olg.com> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: KALER / LAMEY / MULLANEY / SMITH > Another book on line.... > > I have the good forturne of having an 1899 book "A SKETCH OF THE KALER > FAMILY FOR THREE HUNDRED YEARS. " which can be found online at > > http://www.kneller.com/WhitleyIN/ > > I saw the following references to Clinton County and thought I would pass it > on. > > Elizabeth married a man named Lamey and died at Loganton, Clinton > County, Pennsylvania April 19, 1876, leaving a large family. Her children > still living are: Delila Smith, Loganton, Pennsylvania; Michael Lamey, > Millheim, Center County, Pennsylvania; Rev. William Lamey, Port-Treverton, > Pennsylvania; P. H Lamey, 2014 North Sixth Street, Harrisburg Pennsylvania; > Lydia Smith, Renovo, Clinton County, Pennsylvania and Lizzie Mullaney, 93 > East Main Street, Bradford, Pennsylvania. > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > The West Branch of the Susquehanna River still covers some partial "BOOMS" from the lumbering days. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ >

Another book on line.... I have the good forturne of having an 1899 book "A SKETCH OF THE KALER FAMILY FOR THREE HUNDRED YEARS. " which can be found online at http://www.kneller.com/WhitleyIN/ I saw the following references to Clinton County and thought I would pass it on. Elizabeth married a man named Lamey and died at Loganton, Clinton County, Pennsylvania April 19, 1876, leaving a large family. Her children still living are: Delila Smith, Loganton, Pennsylvania; Michael Lamey, Millheim, Center County, Pennsylvania; Rev. William Lamey, Port-Treverton, Pennsylvania; P. H Lamey, 2014 North Sixth Street, Harrisburg Pennsylvania; Lydia Smith, Renovo, Clinton County, Pennsylvania and Lizzie Mullaney, 93 East Main Street, Bradford, Pennsylvania.

Steven, It doesn't look like I'll be much help. My g-grandmother, Emma Hockenberry, married Charles H Grimes. She was born abt 1866. children are : Irene, Magnolia, Harry, Worthey, George and Mrs Charles Lorsong - all Grimes of course. Not sure where Emma and her family came from. If you ever find a tie-in to this line I'd be glad to hear about it. Thanks Donald L Pautot Researching : Batkowski Cardot Chauvelot Collister Cordier Czzykowski Dalton Didier Emanuel Ennis Fleurey Floersch Frey Garnier Gerard Goodbrod Grandclaude Gratelot Graybill Grimes Grisey Grove Hildebrandt Hockenberry Hook Hughes Johnson Lorsong Lose Nobis Pass Paulsen Pautot Piguet Reeser Robinson Sauze Schroyer Valdaoiz Weigle Weikle Steven James wrote: > Hi, > > I am new on this list and wanted to let you know the names I am searching: > > Engles > Hockenberry > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Steven James > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > Clinton County is the home of WOOLRICH INC, clothing manufacturer > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

Hi all, Interested in finding parents/siblings of Rev. Adam Haughenberry b. 1824, m. Elizabeth Shaffer of Grove Twp (then Clinton Co) in 1853, d. 1855. Adam & Elizabeth had 1 son-James Lorraine Haughenberry b. 1854, m. Kate Crosby 1877, d. 1902; 1 known daughter, Elizabeth French Haughenberry. I've seen the name spelled many different ways, one being Hockenberry. The couple may have moved to what was Clearfield Co during their brief marriage. Any connections out there? Sorry Steven, but that's all I have on Rev. Adam orJames Lorraine. Dee Zito ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven James" <sejames81664@home.com> To: <PACLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: New on list > > Hi, > > I am new on this list and wanted to let you know the names I am searching: > > Engles > Hockenberry > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Steven James > > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > Clinton County is the home of WOOLRICH INC, clothing manufacturer > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hello list, I will give a brief rundown of my Hockenberry lineage, to my gg-grandmother: Reinhard Hachenberger (c1683-aft 1750) Peter Hockenberry (c1718-1811) m/1 Anna Catharina ____ (c1717-c1763) Henry Hockenberry (c1740-1815) m/1 _____ Casper Hockenberry (c1761-c1866) m. Mary Greenwood (1754-c1858) Nehemiah Hockenberry (c1793-aft 1832) m. Elizabeth Matthews (c1793-?) Simon Hockenberry (1822-1905) m.Catharine Werts (1823-1890) Harry Nehemiah Hockenberry (1860-1925) m. Lydia Ann Chapman (1862-1940) Catherine E. Hockenberry (1887-1969) m. Miller Franklin Shawley (1873-1956) Miller & Catherine were my 2nd-great-grandparents. To date, no one knows what the "E." stood for. I am very curious about where your Hockenberry lines connect to this. If they are Clinton County, the only way I know of is through Simon Franklin Hockenberry (1882-1968), brother of my great-great-grandmother. Several of his family went down to the Lock Haven area. I look forward to hearing from both of you as to where you connect. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Chair, Clinton County (PA) Genealogical Society Cemetery Project Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Jesus is All the World to Me"

I also have a g-grandmother Hockenberry Donald Steven James wrote: > Hi, > > I am new on this list and wanted to let you know the names I am searching: > > Engles > Hockenberry > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Steven James > > ==== PACLINTO Mailing List ==== > Clinton County is the home of WOOLRICH INC, clothing manufacturer > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

Hi, I am new on this list and wanted to let you know the names I am searching: Engles Hockenberry Any help will be greatly appreciated. Steven James