Swoope St. is also Rt 153 that enters Brisbin from Houtzdale. The IOOF Cemetery is on Swoope St. that is also Rt 153. Following 153 from Houtzdale, 153 makes a sharp left turn onto Swoope St and continuing on 153 (Swoope St) takes you past the IOOF Cemetery. The cemetery is very large on the left side of the road, looks on maps like the cemetery takes up about a third of the town along Swoope St, you can't miss it, it's the only cemetery in town. I went to Google, entered "Swoope St., Brisbin,PA", that brings up a very good map with all the streets named and the Cemetery named between Egyptian and Russ Streets on Swoope also. Also shows how you can take Rt 153 also from the town of Clearfield and approach Brisbin's Swoope St. and the cemetery from the opposite direction. Here's the link to the map: Swoope St, Brisbin, PA 16620 Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Swoope+St,+Brisbin,+PA&sll= 40.995561,-78.428349&sspn=0.006932,0.013003&ie=UTF8&ll=40.837597,-78.35166&s pn=0.006948,0.013003&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 Sorry I can't put my hands on my own paper maps of Brisbin at the moment that has streets named to be more helpful with names, hope this helps. Jan -----Original Message----- From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of slbearer Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:34 PM To: paclearf@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] Brisbin Cemetery >From I80 , Swoop Street with the city of Brisbin on Map Quest #1 [1 - 30] says from Rt 53 you will run right onto Swoop Street. It then says Swoop Street turns into Coal Street. Is this cemetery on Swoop Street? What is near it? Is it easy to get to or is it a hidden cemetery & would it be on the right or left hand side coming from Rt 53? 1.. [1-30] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 2.. [31-44] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 3.. [45-52] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 4.. [53-149] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 5.. [150-199] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 6.. [200-249] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 7.. [250-289] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 8.. [290-299] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 9.. [300-323] Swoope St Brisbin, PA 16620, Clearfield County, US 10.. [324-355] Swoope St ----- Original Message ----- From: "JTracey" <jt@traceyaz.com> Brisbin is on the opposite side of the 400 foot hill from Houtzdale. The cemetery is the IOOF (International Order of Oddfellows) as you are going out of town up the hill on Swoope St. that is the main road through this small town of population of about 400. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brisbin is not in Houtzdale, Brisbin is on the opposite side of the 400 foot hill from Houtzdale. The cemetery is the IOOF (International Order of Oddfellows) as you are going out of town up the hill on Swoope St. that is the main road through this small town of population of about 400. I was raised in Brisbin until age 12 and lived in the home that is owned by the Cotters now, lovely, wonderful people, I have many fond memories and visited yearly from 1998-2004, hope to resume again soon. Jan Tracey in Arizona -----Original Message----- From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kristine Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:20 AM To: paclearf@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] Brisbin Cemetery I should have also said it is the IOOF Cemetery. On 9/13/07, Kristine <moms2angels@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's in Houtzdale. > > On 9/12/07, slbearer <slbearer@adelphia.net> wrote: > > > > I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield > > County. Does anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin > > actually in Centre County & where? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should have also said it is the IOOF Cemetery. On 9/13/07, Kristine <moms2angels@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's in Houtzdale. > > On 9/12/07, slbearer <slbearer@adelphia.net> wrote: > > > > I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield > > County. Does anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin > > actually in Centre County & where? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

It's in Houtzdale. On 9/12/07, slbearer <slbearer@adelphia.net> wrote: > > I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield County. Does > anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin actually in > Centre County & where? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If her mother is receiving death benefits, I don't understand why his death isn't listed in the Death Index either. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAL" <RLash@worldnet.att.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >I believe It is the "Social security Death index" > > If no one puts in for the Death benefit the person is not listed. > > That is my understanding. > > Robin > > Mark & Cherie Moyer wrote: > >>If someone is currently receiving benefits, is the death still shown in >>the >>SSDI? My dad died in 2002; my mother is receiving his benefits, but he is >>still not listed, and I never understood why. >> >>Thanks. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Farnsworth" <farnsworth@charter.net> >>To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:12 AM >>Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >> >> >> >> >>>Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the >>>person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my Grandmother >>>to >>>file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her >>>pride >>>(and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout and >>>she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered >>>other >>>people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a >>>different world today. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>[mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>On Behalf Of jj.carroll >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM >>>To: paclearf@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >>> >>>Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. >>>But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> >>>To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM >>>Subject: [PACLEARF] social security >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his >>>>Social >>>>Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went >>>>backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that >>>>I >>>>was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for >>>>benefits. >>>>Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not >>>>have >>>>a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed >>>>for >>>>benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The >>>>benefits >>>>to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, >>>>therefore >>>>it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't >>>>believe you will find it in the system! >>>> >>>>Judy >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes >>>in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I believe Mr. Evans has a new email address it is at @verizon.net. Also Brisbin Cemetery is in Clearfield County. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "JTracey" <jt@traceyaz.com> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] Brisbin Cemetery > The following information is over a year old that I sent to this list in > April 2006, there may be updates by this time but Don Evans mentioned here > would have those updates: > > "The person who has the records for Brisbin Cemetery is Don Evans, his > email > address is: > dsevans@pennswoods.net > > He said he is willing to help anyone who needs help if you contact him. > > They are planning to hire a full-time person by the end of 2007, then they > will be setting up a website for the Brisbin Cemetery." > > Jan Tracey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of slbearer > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:25 PM > To: paclearf@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACLEARF] Brisbin Cemetery > > I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield County. Does > anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin actually in > Centre County & where? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you I will check with that Gen. society...hopefully I will find the address online. Kathie -----Original Message----- From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Waite Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:18 PM To: paclearf@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] Obituary ? Kathie, I recently indexed this cemetery. And I would suggest trying the Clearfield County Genealogy Society first. If I can be of any help let me know Jeff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KATHORLEN" <kathorlen@charter.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [PACLEARF] Obituary ? > My ancestor James Walter Hanna died August 18,1914 and is buried in > Allemansville Methodist Cemetery. Where would I begin to look for his > obituary? From what I am told his family has a large family plot there. > Thanks for any advice. Kathie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe It is the "Social security Death index" If no one puts in for the Death benefit the person is not listed. That is my understanding. Robin Mark & Cherie Moyer wrote: >If someone is currently receiving benefits, is the death still shown in the >SSDI? My dad died in 2002; my mother is receiving his benefits, but he is >still not listed, and I never understood why. > >Thanks. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Farnsworth" <farnsworth@charter.net> >To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:12 AM >Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security > > > > >>Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the >>person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my Grandmother >>to >>file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her pride >>(and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout and >>she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered >>other >>people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a >>different world today. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>On Behalf Of jj.carroll >>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM >>To: paclearf@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >> >>Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. >>But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> >>To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM >>Subject: [PACLEARF] social security >> >> >> >> >>>My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social >>>Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went >>>backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I >>>was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. >>>Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not >>>have >>>a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed >>>for >>>benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The >>>benefits >>>to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, >>>therefore >>>it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't >>>believe you will find it in the system! >>> >>>Judy >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield County. Does anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin actually in Centre County & where?

Jean, Me and my wife both have ties to William Bloom. Could you trade information with me. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jeann8lte@aol.com> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] Thompson - obit > What an obit of a life of service! I met you this summer and we > determined > that we share the Kirk/Fisher line. That was my paternal grandmother's > line. > On my paternal father's line I am most likely related to Elizabeth Ogden. > William Blum/Bloom had twelve children. His daughter Elizabeth who > managed a > cruel winter as a teen in Clearfield County married Daniel Ogden's son > Matthew. > Elizabeth's older brother Isaac married Sarah Apgar and they had a > daughter > Pricilla who married John Norris. John and Pricilla had sixteen children, > four > of whom my father always said were in the Civil War. So far I can find > proof > on only three of them. One of their sons Moses Cammeron had two > daughter's > Abigail and Martha Mertie Norris. These daughters married two brothers, > Law and > Reuben Whitaker. Mertie as she was known, was my great grand mother. > > Interestingly enough her Aunt Lovenia Norris, daughter of John and > Pricilla, > married first Truman Wall and after being widowed married my gguncle, > William > Helper, who was my mother's great uncle. > > Sorry about the loss of you mother, > Jean Brugger > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kathie, I recently indexed this cemetery. And I would suggest trying the Clearfield County Genealogy Society first. If I can be of any help let me know Jeff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KATHORLEN" <kathorlen@charter.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: [PACLEARF] Obituary ? > My ancestor James Walter Hanna died August 18,1914 and is buried in > Allemansville Methodist Cemetery. Where would I begin to look for his > obituary? From what I am told his family has a large family plot there. > Thanks for any advice. Kathie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following information is over a year old that I sent to this list in April 2006, there may be updates by this time but Don Evans mentioned here would have those updates: "The person who has the records for Brisbin Cemetery is Don Evans, his email address is: dsevans@pennswoods.net He said he is willing to help anyone who needs help if you contact him. They are planning to hire a full-time person by the end of 2007, then they will be setting up a website for the Brisbin Cemetery." Jan Tracey -----Original Message----- From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of slbearer Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:25 PM To: paclearf@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACLEARF] Brisbin Cemetery I am having trouble finding a Brisbin Cemetery in Clearfield County. Does anyone know if there is one & where it is or is this Brisbin actually in Centre County & where? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestor James Walter Hanna died August 18,1914 and is buried in Allemansville Methodist Cemetery. Where would I begin to look for his obituary? From what I am told his family has a large family plot there. Thanks for any advice. Kathie

And sometimes they may have changed the name, from time to time. My grandfather was a rail roader, and there was some speculation that was the reason why there was no social security number. Actually, we did locate a ss#, but he had changed his name from Clifford to David to Earl. Much of the problem rests with us who are looking for the easy way to find an ancestor - and there is no telling why they changed birthdates and names (and I don't mean maiden names!). But you must exhaust all of the avenues, and then go back and try some new ones. All of the reasons given below are good ones. They just don't tell all of the story, and even I can't do that because I haven't experienced them. But the hunting can be fun, even if frustrating. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Lowery" <palowery70@comcast.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security > The following site explains why an entry might be missing from the SSDI: > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ssdi/missing.html > > Mark & Cherie Moyer wrote: >> If someone is currently receiving benefits, is the death still shown in >> the >> SSDI? My dad died in 2002; my mother is receiving his benefits, but he >> is >> still not listed, and I never understood why. >> >> Thanks. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Farnsworth" <farnsworth@charter.net> >> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >> >> >> >>> Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the >>> person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my >>> Grandmother >>> to >>> file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her >>> pride >>> (and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout >>> and >>> she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered >>> other >>> people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a >>> different world today. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of jj.carroll >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM >>> To: paclearf@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >>> >>> Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody >>> filed. >>> But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> >>> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM >>> Subject: [PACLEARF] social security >>> >>> >>> >>>> My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his >>>> Social >>>> Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went >>>> backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that >>>> I >>>> was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for >>>> benefits. >>>> Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not >>>> have >>>> a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed >>>> for >>>> benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The >>>> benefits >>>> to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, >>>> therefore >>>> it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't >>>> believe you will find it in the system! >>>> >>>> Judy >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If someone is currently receiving benefits, is the death still shown in the SSDI? My dad died in 2002; my mother is receiving his benefits, but he is still not listed, and I never understood why. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farnsworth" <farnsworth@charter.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security > Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the > person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my Grandmother > to > file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her pride > (and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout and > she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered > other > people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a > different world today. > > -----Original Message----- > From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of jj.carroll > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM > To: paclearf@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security > > Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. > But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> > To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM > Subject: [PACLEARF] social security > > >> My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social >> Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went >> backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I >> was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. >> Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not >> have >> a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed >> for >> benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The >> benefits >> to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, >> therefore >> it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't >> believe you will find it in the system! >> >> Judy >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following site explains why an entry might be missing from the SSDI: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ssdi/missing.html Mark & Cherie Moyer wrote: > If someone is currently receiving benefits, is the death still shown in the > SSDI? My dad died in 2002; my mother is receiving his benefits, but he is > still not listed, and I never understood why. > > Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farnsworth" <farnsworth@charter.net> > To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security > > > >> Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the >> person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my Grandmother >> to >> file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her pride >> (and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout and >> she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered >> other >> people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a >> different world today. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of jj.carroll >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM >> To: paclearf@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security >> >> Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. >> But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> >> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM >> Subject: [PACLEARF] social security >> >> >> >>> My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social >>> Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went >>> backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I >>> was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. >>> Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not >>> have >>> a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed >>> for >>> benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The >>> benefits >>> to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, >>> therefore >>> it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't >>> believe you will find it in the system! >>> >>> Judy >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Judy, this is correct. Only when someone filed for the benefits is the person listed on the SSDI. We had a terrible time getting my Grandmother to file as she was not about to accept "relief", as she called it. Her pride (and that of her generation) considered SS to be a government handout and she wasn't about to lower herself to living off of what she considered other people's charity and would not accept the "entitlement". We live in a different world today. -----Original Message----- From: paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:paclearf-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jj.carroll Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:48 AM To: paclearf@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACLEARF] social security Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: [PACLEARF] social security > My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social > Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went > backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I > was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. > Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not > have > a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed > for > benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The > benefits > to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, therefore > it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't > believe you will find it in the system! > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have had the same experience with most of my relatives. My family was relatively well off, and didn't need the Social Security benefits, so except for my minor brother receiving my mother's death benefits until he turned age 21, no one else's benefits were ever applied for, so none of my relatives are in the system. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: [PACLEARF] social security > My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social > Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went > backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I > was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. > Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not > have > a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed > for > benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The > benefits > to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, therefore > it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't > believe you will find it in the system! > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not have a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed for benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The benefits to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, therefore it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't believe you will find it in the system! Judy

Thank you. Don't have a social security number, or know if nobody filed. But the information helps clear up a muddy situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Heald" <jheald@pennswoods.net> To: <paclearf@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: [PACLEARF] social security > My Dad was a Dairy farmer who died in 1966. When I looked for his Social > Security Death Index in 2000+ I could not locate it. I finally went > backwards using his SS# and called Social Security. After proving that I > was indeed his daughter, they told me no one had ever filed for benefits. > Apparently my Mom, thinking that because he was self employed, did not > have > a SS # (as it was not required for the self-employed then), never filed > for > benefits. For some strange reason even the lawyer missed it. The > benefits > to Mom would probably been minimal, but no filing was even done, therefore > it is NOT in the system. So - if no one files for benefits - I don't > believe you will find it in the system! > > Judy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACLEARF-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message