This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GaB.2ACE/489.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the post. It sure gives me much more to look at. I will have to get with my Grandmother on the Hartzells. I do know that gramma said that Leah married Jake Hartzell. I also have a family written little book that has this stated in it too, but never mentions the names of Johns parents. Its been sometime since I worked on my files. :(