This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hartzell/Winkler/Kukimunda Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GaB.2ACE/489.1 Message Board Post: Here is link that should help you out. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jrankin77&id=I283 I am starting to research my mother's family. My grandmother is Margarat Madaline Hartzell and Anna Winkler is her mother, my great great grandmother.