Hi All, There are more and more indications that our Descendants of Johannes GERBER d 1777 Berks Co., PA, relates closely to ZUG/ZOOK and to E. Whiteland Twp. in Chester Co., PA. Here is the latest connection. Recall that our Christian (GB18) and Abraham (GB1a) married Yoder sisters and moved to OH. Well there was a third Yoder sister and she married Daniel KAUFFMAN b E. Whiteland Twp; Daniel's mother was a ZUG. By the way descendants of this couple can be traced "all the way" to Marion Co., OR. I received some information about the Vincent Reformed Churches -- apparently there are two churches in the same location, both of them now United Church of Christ (this is the Congregational Church). There just has to be an interesting story there, but I think the one for East Vincent Twp is the one we are interested in. There are GARBERs here! I am beginning to think that Amish-Mennonites who settled in the Northkill Area (later Upper Bern Twp. in Berks County) are the ones associated with Moritz ZUG and family who may have been in the area very early! I am back to two family theory again. Maybe the line in East Vincent Twp is associated with those who look like the ones that Liz, Lynda, and Jan discovered (the whole GB11 line). Please someone tell me something that will bring me back to my senses! Doug Garber --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing