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    1. [PACHESTE] John Neild
    2. Orville Mock
    3. Hi Al, Your question: Was John Neild on the boat with William Penn?? According to "The Historical Society of Pennsylvania" Mr. John Neild arrived PA on 29 7 mo 1683 on the ship "Endeavr" of London, Geo. Thorp the Master of the ship. About 20 families are listed as passengers on this ship. Neild is listed this way: Tho: Janeway (Janney) & Margaret his wife, late of Pownell in Cheshire, husbandman: Children, Jacob, Thomas, Abel & Joseph Janeway: servants, John Neild, Hannah ffalknr. The "Welcome" arrived Oct. 27, 1682. Neild arrived about a year after Penn. Now, I suppose he could have been on the boat with Penn, returned to England and returned again. The passengers sailing with Penn have been studied for years and some variations of the passenger lists are out there. I would venture to say this may be the only reference to this gentleman you may every find. The only answer I know is the information the HSP has. Many us are looking for that one tidbit of information, just like this, and would be happy to find it to help solve the many unknowns of our ancestors. This information and much more like it is showing up on the internet and CD's with very little about the original sources. You never know what to believe, if the source is listed you can always go verified it, and then you either trust it or reject it. If it is the only know source, then the organization's reputation is examined. I'd say the reputation of the HSP is excellent. The old passenger lists that survive are owned by the HSP, right or wrong, good or bad, that's all there is. The Historical Society of PA publication "The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography" at one time published an article, or a series of articles, Emigrants to Pennsylvania 1641-1819, which were many different lists of passengers arriving between the mentioned years using the original lists for reference. They have a large collection of the original old written records from the colonial era. So they are the keepers of the archives of everything, or a lot things old pertaining to PA. I doubt if we would have easy access to see any of these original records, so for most of us the closest to the seeing original lists, is to have a copy of this magazine. I have no idea what issue or date it was published. The magazine has been in circulation for at least 150 years and subscriptions are available here http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=132 . So, to make it easy for many of us to see the old issues or excerpts from old issues they have allowed or licensed Genealogy Publishing Co. to republish some of there magazine articles in books & CD. The Emigrant List book is available here http://www.genealogical.com/item_detail.asp?ID=5740 and is also offered on a couple of different CD along with other old PA publications. Some public libraries and historical societies may have some of these books and CD's. Let me assure you Al, I am no authority on PA history. I am very much a student of history, its interesting sometimes. Anyway, I hope you find some of this information useful and helps in your search.

    02/21/2004 09:43:44