In answer to yesterday's query by HELefevre@aol, my source citations for Shadrach Montgomery's birth are The History of Auglaize Co/Wm J McMurray c.1923 HistoricalPubCo of IndplsIN; History of Western Ohio and AuglaizeCo/C W Wanson c.1905 Press of WmLinn&Sons Clbs,OH "born in Western PA in 1789"; Wapakoneta Courant 11/2/1871 obituary; and, strangely enough, LDS Family Group Record submitted by Harold E Lefevre :) Your summary sounds like pretty much what i have, but i am planning a trip to clbs this wk to do further research. we'll see what surfaces. Thanks for your help. John Yochum bijou@bright.net