Boy, I couldn't find a thing on this name and I tried many spellings, including the one you use (send me a list of the other spellings you've seen used, in case I've missed one).....I couldn't find the name in any indexes, or wills Just on the chance something might turn up on the 1870 census I looked...and, found the following, with yet more name spellings...I'm including them, in case they might hold a clue. I did notice that Eliza was born in Delaware. Eliza J. Counseller race B age 52 born in Del. ...town; West Chester this is on microfilm roll 1325 page 189 Cheyney Counciller race M age 17 born in PA ..town: Caln (microfilm# 1323 page 11 William Counciler race B age 47 born in PA ..town, W. Bradford microfilm # 1325 page 86 William counciler race B age 24 born in PA ..town; East Caln (film 1323 p. 62) -----Original Message----- From: Charles Counseller <ccc47331@si-net.com> To: ferg@intelos.net <ferg@intelos.net> Date: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:23 PM Subject: lookup request Hi Sandra, I've been on this list for over a year. I thank you for all your efforts in trying to help others. Having been a lookup volunteer, I know this takes a lot of your personal time. In the year plus I've been on this list, I have yet to see the surname mentioned I am working. I know you like to have some dates, etc with requests. I am researching the COUNSELLOR (and variant spellings, there are several) families of DE, PA and NJ, 1690's-1850's William COUNSELLOR is listed: in Chester Co, Thornbury in 1820 in Delaware co, Thornbury in 1830 in Delware co, Thornbury in 1840 not found in 1850 in Delaware co, Thornbury in 1860 in 1860 his age is listed as 91 years. He was poor, poor people don't leave probate or land records, in addition, he is of color. Anything with this surname I would be interested in. Thanks for your efforts Chuck Counceller Connersville, IN