There are two different entries for JAMES STOKES among the University of Pennsylvania Medical Department Matriculants, 1806-1852 Addendum 1853, 1857, 1860. One is listed as from Germantown in 1853, and the other from Milestown in 1857. The latter has [M.D.] following the date. In the mid-19th century it would not be unheard of for a person who attended a medical 'department' to be acting as a pharmacist. Paul C. Palmer -----Original Message----- From: HMWEBBER@aol.com [mailto:HMWEBBER@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:44 AM To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com; DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com; PADELAWA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Dr. James STOKES (druggest) - bottle found. Good morning lists, My son-in-law found an old bottle at a job site. Please read the following: Hi Momma, Keith found this old bottle in the dirt at a job site in King of Prussia. The bottle reads: Dr. Jas Stokes Druggist West Chester, PA Is their anyone who can date this Dr. James STOKES or the bottle? If anyone would like to see a pick of the bottle I will e-mail it to you off list. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 358-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com Professional Genealogist Local Historian Founder of the Delaware County Genealogical Society (DCGS) Index for Wills in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1910 Index for Administrations in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1900 Index for Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., PA 1795 - 1926 Index to Estate Case Files in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1829 (Orphans' Court.) Index to Criminal Cases 1791 - 1865 Chester School Attendance Records - 1897-98 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Marriages 1873-1933 (intermittent) Immaculate Heart of Mary - Baptism 7 Sep 1873 - 22 Jun 1884 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Cemetery 1903-1939 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records 1923-25 for: Immaculate Heart of Mary Cemetery The Delaware County Home Cemetery (Potter's Field) St. Martin's Cemetery 1693 - 1972 or later. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I looked at the censuses and didn't find anything relevant. However, I found an 1890 Veteran's Schedule which listed, in West Chester, a James Stokes, Assistant Surgeon, enlisted 8/6/1862, discharged 6/15/1865. So it seems that he was in West Chester after coming out of the army after the Civil War. A likely candidate, I would think. maybe this same fellow? LAZARETTO PHYSICIANS FOR THE QUARANTINE STATION AT TINICUM, ON THE RIVER DELAWARE, IN PENNSYLVANIA. >From the Philadelphia Directories. Dr. T.J.P. Stokes, appointed - - , 1854 -----Original Message----- From: HMWEBBER@aol.com [mailto:HMWEBBER@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:44 AM To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com; DENEWCAS-L@rootsweb.com; PADELAWA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Dr. James STOKES (druggest) - bottle found. Good morning lists, My son-in-law found an old bottle at a job site. Please read the following: Hi Momma, Keith found this old bottle in the dirt at a job site in King of Prussia. The bottle reads: Dr. Jas Stokes Druggist West Chester, PA Is their anyone who can date this Dr. James STOKES or the bottle? If anyone would like to see a pick of the bottle I will e-mail it to you off list. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 358-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com Professional Genealogist Local Historian Founder of the Delaware County Genealogical Society (DCGS) Index for Wills in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1910 Index for Administrations in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1900 Index for Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., PA 1795 - 1926 Index to Estate Case Files in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1829 (Orphans' Court.) Index to Criminal Cases 1791 - 1865 Chester School Attendance Records - 1897-98 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Marriages 1873-1933 (intermittent) Immaculate Heart of Mary - Baptism 7 Sep 1873 - 22 Jun 1884 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Cemetery 1903-1939 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records 1923-25 for: Immaculate Heart of Mary Cemetery The Delaware County Home Cemetery (Potter's Field) St. Martin's Cemetery 1693 - 1972 or later. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Good morning lists, My son-in-law found an old bottle at a job site. Please read the following: Hi Momma, Keith found this old bottle in the dirt at a job site in King of Prussia. The bottle reads: Dr. Jas Stokes Druggist West Chester, PA Is their anyone who can date this Dr. James STOKES or the bottle? If anyone would like to see a pick of the bottle I will e-mail it to you off list. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 358-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com Professional Genealogist Local Historian Founder of the Delaware County Genealogical Society (DCGS) Index for Wills in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1910 Index for Administrations in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1900 Index for Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., PA 1795 - 1926 Index to Estate Case Files in Delaware Co., PA 1789 - 1829 (Orphans' Court.) Index to Criminal Cases 1791 - 1865 Chester School Attendance Records - 1897-98 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Marriages 1873-1933 (intermittent) Immaculate Heart of Mary - Baptism 7 Sep 1873 - 22 Jun 1884 Immaculate Heart of Mary - Cemetery 1903-1939 (intermittent) E. F. White Funeral Records 1923-25 for: Immaculate Heart of Mary Cemetery The Delaware County Home Cemetery (Potter's Field) St. Martin's Cemetery 1693 - 1972 or later.
Helen Wallis in 1900 Name: Helen Wallis Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 5, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania , Pine St. Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter Father's name: James Francis , b. Michigan, parents b. PA, b. Apr 1867, age 33, physician Mother's name: Mary , age 37, b. NJ, parents b. PA Race: White Household Members: Name Age James Francis Wallis 33 Mary Wallis 27 Helen Wallis 5 Edith Wallis 2 Marshall J Wallis 10.12 Celia P Ertel 38 (the Ertel's are boarders) Sophie Ertel 50 Catherine Reith 45, mother in law Malichi Burne 45 boarder Ieig Sing 36 boarder in 1910 they are in Montgomery Co. James, 44, doctor Mary 36 Helen 16, b. PA Edith 12, b. NJ Marshall 10, b. NJ Charles 8, b. PA Frederick, son, age unreadable but seems to show him under the age of 1 by Marshall's info, they had to be in NJ until just before 1900, when they moved to PA since there is no 1890 census, we won't find them until we get back to 1880; none of the children will have yet been born by the ages above, James would have been abt. 14 in 1880; therefore born abt. 1855/56 I do not find a James Wallis b. Michigan in 1860 or 70; I do find, in 1860, a 7 yr old James Wallace, b. Michigan, living in Michigan....however, finding him in 1870 shows his father b. Scotland in 1880 Phila I do find a Francis Wallis, b. Michigan, parents b. PA, age 12 : James M, 55, druggist Annie M, 50 Fannie 21 Mary K 16 John E 24 Francis, 12 I think this is very likely your James Francis. do you wish me to continue? -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:33 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I wish to thank everyone who answered my request for Kirkner help. As I am only subscribed to the Ancestry.com USA Census, I am especially thankful for the Draft registration. Norval's father George was born in 1861. The Kirkners seem to have stayed in Chester County forever and I am sure there are a lot of records there. My biggest handicap is living in Oregon, it's quite a jaunt to PA to research. Norval married Helen Wallis who died in West Chester, Chester County in 1980. They had a daughter, Grace who was born in 1915. If there is anyone who would like to work on this family privately with me...I'm all for it. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In 1930 they are in Malvern, Chester Co., Warren Ave. Norval S, 38, age at first marriage 21, rents home, $33, he is a house plumber Helen M, 36 dau. Grace M, 16 all b. PA in 1920, Malvern, Church St. Norval is 26, a 'maintainer' for the railroad Helen 25 Grace 6 brother John Kirkner, 24 sister in law Alice Kirkner, 20 -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:33 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I wish to thank everyone who answered my request for Kirkner help. As I am only subscribed to the Ancestry.com USA Census, I am especially thankful for the Draft registration. Norval's father George was born in 1861. The Kirkners seem to have stayed in Chester County forever and I am sure there are a lot of records there. My biggest handicap is living in Oregon, it's quite a jaunt to PA to research. Norval married Helen Wallis who died in West Chester, Chester County in 1980. They had a daughter, Grace who was born in 1915. If there is anyone who would like to work on this family privately with me...I'm all for it. Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I wish to thank everyone who answered my request for Kirkner help. As I am only subscribed to the Ancestry.com USA Census, I am especially thankful for the Draft registration. Norval's father George was born in 1861. The Kirkners seem to have stayed in Chester County forever and I am sure there are a lot of records there. My biggest handicap is living in Oregon, it's quite a jaunt to PA to research. Norval married Helen Wallis who died in West Chester, Chester County in 1980. They had a daughter, Grace who was born in 1915. If there is anyone who would like to work on this family privately with me...I'm all for it. Thank you.
This is really great! Do you know if there is any similar book for the Little Brittain Meeting house? My ancestors from the area are: Clayton and Reynolds and many Quakers they married. Kings,Sidwell, Brown, etc. Thanks Dee Behrens (Reynolds) -----Original Message----- From: a.d.buckingham@verizon.net To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com; QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 9:33 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] London Grove Book Hello All, I finally finished the book "London Grove Meeting 200th Anniversary 1714-1914" so if you are interested it is all online at http://www.quakerrecords.com Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Don't forget that Ancestry.com still has the free immigrations search for a few more days. I was able to find the actual ship's logs for 2 of my ancestors so it can be a big help. Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/551 - Release Date: 11/25/2006 10:55 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
There is also a William Young married to a Gertrude in the 1930 census in Philadelphia, address 4630 Tampa. He is 40, first marriage age 27, she is 44, age at first marriage 31. Stepson James Fairman, age 25, is also in the household. Given the age of Gertrude's son, it looks as if the age at first marriage is more likely her age at second marriage. If this is so, she and William should appear together in the 1920 census, but I don't find them. ----- Original Message ---- From: "pacheste-request@rootsweb.com" <pacheste-request@rootsweb.com> To: pacheste@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:00:40 AM Subject: PACHESTE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 38 Today's Topics: 1. Re: 1920-1930Census for William and Gertrude YOUNG (DIANA QUINONES) 2. London Grove Book (Alan Buckingham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:54:54 -0600 From: "DIANA QUINONES" <audiana@msn.com> Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] 1920-1930Census for William and Gertrude YOUNG To: <pacheste@rootsweb.com>, <JamesEFosterJr@aol.com> Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV23FB9CA87B56DE03883CB6B2E00@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No William F YOUNG shows up on the Census in 1920-30. 1920 Census, Chester, Delaware Co PA , Ward 1, Dist 116, page 1B, image 4: 307 72nd or 22nd St William K Young salesman in bakery, PA, Scotland, MI, age 27, owns home Gertrude Young PA MD PA, age 26 William K Young PA PA PA, age 2y1month 1930 Census Dist 8, Chester, Delaware Co PA, page 26a, image 195 residence 107 E 22 St. William K or R Young, age 37, married at age 22, PA, Scotland, MI, agent insurance, owns home Gertrude wife age 35, PA, MD, PA, first married at age 21 Elizabeth E dau age 7, PA PA PA, attending school No indication of a prior marriage for Gertrude. This is the only Gertrude with a husband William in the Census of that time. SSDI has a William YOUNG born 6/23/1892, died in Royersford, Montgomery Co PA in 5/1972. Also another William Young born 10/23/1892, died Rossiter, Indiana Co PA in 7/1973. Hope this helps. Diana in AL --------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:00:29 EST From: JamesEFosterJr@aol.com<mailto:JamesEFosterJr@aol.com> Subject: [PACHESTE] William F Young - Montgomery Co/Phila -1920/1930 census Trying to track down a great uncle, William F. Young, born 1/23/1892 in Hatfield, Montgomery Co, Pa. In 1900 he was living at home with his parents Abraham R. Young and Amanda H Fosbenner Young. Subsequently, she died and the boys were apparently separated. I don't know what happened to him but he evidently ended up in Philadelphia, Pa. and married a Gertrude (last name unknown) who was called "Gertie". She was previously married and brought 2 boys into the marriage. I believe they were teenagers around 1920. Can anyone find William and Gertrude Young on the 1920 or 1930 census? I don't know when they married or when they died. Jim ------------------------------ To contact the PACHESTE list administrator, send an email to PACHESTE-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the PACHESTE mailing list, send an email to PACHESTE@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACHESTE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 37 *************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:33:30 -0500 From: "Alan Buckingham" <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> Subject: [PACHESTE] London Grove Book To: "Chester Pennsylvania" <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com>, <QUAKER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0J9B000MUGFQ7IFG@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Hello All, I finally finished the book "London Grove Meeting 200th Anniversary 1714-1914" so if you are interested it is all online at http://www.quakerrecords.com Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Don't forget that Ancestry.com still has the free immigrations search for a few more days. I was able to find the actual ship's logs for 2 of my ancestors so it can be a big help. Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/551 - Release Date: 11/25/2006 10:55 AM ------------------------------ To contact the PACHESTE list administrator, send an email to PACHESTE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PACHESTE mailing list, send an email to PACHESTE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACHESTE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 38 *************************************** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Hello All, I finally finished the book "London Grove Meeting 200th Anniversary 1714-1914" so if you are interested it is all online at http://www.quakerrecords.com Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Don't forget that Ancestry.com still has the free immigrations search for a few more days. I was able to find the actual ship's logs for 2 of my ancestors so it can be a big help. Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/551 - Release Date: 11/25/2006 10:55 AM
No William F YOUNG shows up on the Census in 1920-30. 1920 Census, Chester, Delaware Co PA , Ward 1, Dist 116, page 1B, image 4: 307 72nd or 22nd St William K Young salesman in bakery, PA, Scotland, MI, age 27, owns home Gertrude Young PA MD PA, age 26 William K Young PA PA PA, age 2y1month 1930 Census Dist 8, Chester, Delaware Co PA, page 26a, image 195 residence 107 E 22 St. William K or R Young, age 37, married at age 22, PA, Scotland, MI, agent insurance, owns home Gertrude wife age 35, PA, MD, PA, first married at age 21 Elizabeth E dau age 7, PA PA PA, attending school No indication of a prior marriage for Gertrude. This is the only Gertrude with a husband William in the Census of that time. SSDI has a William YOUNG born 6/23/1892, died in Royersford, Montgomery Co PA in 5/1972. Also another William Young born 10/23/1892, died Rossiter, Indiana Co PA in 7/1973. Hope this helps. Diana in AL --------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:00:29 EST From: JamesEFosterJr@aol.com<mailto:JamesEFosterJr@aol.com> Subject: [PACHESTE] William F Young - Montgomery Co/Phila -1920/1930 census Trying to track down a great uncle, William F. Young, born 1/23/1892 in Hatfield, Montgomery Co, Pa. In 1900 he was living at home with his parents Abraham R. Young and Amanda H Fosbenner Young. Subsequently, she died and the boys were apparently separated. I don't know what happened to him but he evidently ended up in Philadelphia, Pa. and married a Gertrude (last name unknown) who was called "Gertie". She was previously married and brought 2 boys into the marriage. I believe they were teenagers around 1920. Can anyone find William and Gertrude Young on the 1920 or 1930 census? I don't know when they married or when they died. Jim ------------------------------ To contact the PACHESTE list administrator, send an email to PACHESTE-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the PACHESTE mailing list, send an email to PACHESTE@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PACHESTE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 37 ***************************************
List: Trying to track down a great uncle, William F. Young, born 1/23/1892 in Hatfield, Montgomery Co, Pa. In 1900 he was living at home with his parents Abraham R. Young and Amanda H Fosbenner Young. Subsequently, she died and the boys were apparently separated. I don't know what happened to him but he evidently ended up in Philadelphia, Pa. and married a Gertrude (last name unknown) who was called "Gertie". She was previously married and brought 2 boys into the marriage. I believe they were teenagers around 1920. Can anyone find William and Gertrude Young on the 1920 or 1930 census? I don't know when they married or when they died. Jim
Following is an abstract of court records concerning the trouble Ann BUFFINGTON got into in 1695. ********************************************* Chester Co. Dec. Ye 11th 1695 we the Grand Inquest by the King's authority doe present Robert Roman of Chichester & Ann Buffington the wife of Richard Buffington the said Robert Roman takeing the wife of Henry Hastings away ffrom her husband & children & conveying her away & the said Ann Buffington being confederate with the said Robert Roman. ********************************************* As for the Ann Buffington married by a priest in 1739, that would probably be the Ann Buffington who married Samuel Wilkinson . I do not know her parentage. The Ann and Richard cited in 1762 would be Richard III, son of Richard Jr. and Phoebe GRUBB BUFFINGTON. Ann WOODWARD was his second wife. He wed his first wife Mary BATE 23 Dec 1742. She died 3 June 1748, and he married Ann "by a priest" and was disowned for same in 1750. In 1762 Richard and Ann acknowledged their breach of Quaker practice and were received back into the Society along with the four children of their marriage. Ann died 21 October 1764. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Steckel" <gail@gregsteckel.com> To: "'Karl or Pat Seitz'" <kseitz@earthlink.net>; <PACHESTE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Dinner -- Ann Buffington from Quaker Records - Bradford Mo. Meeting: 17th of 11th mo.; 1739: Ann Buffington ack. for mar. by a priest. 17th of 9th mo., 1762: Richard and Ann Buffington, ack. for mar. with assistance of a priest; also requesting for their four children, Richard, Jesse, Ann and Esther, to be rec'd. Due to the time span, the above Ann cannot be the same person. So perhaps that rebel streak ran in the family! The above Richard is probably Richard Jr. The 'original' Richard was b. 4/30/1655; Ann abt. 1660. Richard Buffington was born in Great Marlow upon the Thames, Buckingshire, England March 30, 1655. He died Jan 8, 1747/48 in Chester Co, PA at 92 yrs of age. He married 3 times: Alice Palmer, who died after 1748; Ann Francis England about 1673. Ann was born in Great Marlow about 1652. Ann died after 1695. "June 5th, 1689, Anne ye wife of Richard Buffington being by Warrnat Apprehended and Conviced before John Bristow for defiling her marriage Bed was by her Suirtyes Richard Buffington and Francis Little bound over to this Court and accordingly made her appearance and was indicked. She was found guilty and judgement is granted that shee recieve 10 strips upon her backe well laid on and 12 months imprisonment att hard labour in ye house of correction and to pay all court costs. James Chivers was the witness." (From Record of the Courts of Chester County, Pennsylvania, 1681-1697); published by the Colonial Society of Pennsylvania, 1910, pages 157-158. He married Frances Vane about 1710; Frances died after 1712. Wills: Abstracts and Administrations 1713-1825: Chester Co, PA (Will Book B, pages 200-268) BUFFINGTON, RICHARD. E. Bradford, Chester Co. January 7, 1747/8. February 10, 1747/8. B. 242. Provides for wife Alice. To daughters Hannah Dain, Mary Turner, Elizabeth Freeman and Lydia Martin, a Bible worth 30 shillings each. To son William all wearing apparel. To daughters Abigail Seed & Alice McArthur, a Bible each. To son Thomas' (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son Richard's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To daughter Ann Hickman's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To daughter Ruth Harlan's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son John's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son Joseph remainder of real & personal estate and if he dies without heirs then to daughters Abigail & Alice. To Owen Thomas minister of the Anabaptist Society held at John Bentleys in Newlin £5 also to Society £20 in annual payments of £5. To Richard Kimbel £2-10. Executor: son Joseph. Witnesses: Evan Jones, Wm. Bennet, Saml. Grubb. They are my 7g-grandparents on my mother's side; their daughter, Lydia, having married George Martin, son of Thomas Martin and Margery Mendenhall. -----Original Message----- From: Karl or Pat Seitz [mailto:kseitz@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:24 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Dinner -- Ann Buffington Thanks to Paul Palmer, I now know why Gilbert Cope said in 1902 of my ancestor, Ann, wife of Richard Buffington: "... She was an outspoken woman of strongly individualistic views. She often did not conform to the conventions of her day and she was ready to stand by her friends in their difficulties, and lend her support as needs be in their non-adherence to the Quaker rules and regulations of the Province ..." Elsewhere, in that same paper Cope says her name appear in records in 1689, 1695 and March 1697/8. The latter when she and several others were indicted for attending an illegal marriage. Paul has provided details of the 1689 inicident. Does anybody what happened in 1695 to get her name in Chester County or Pennsylvania records? -- Karl Seitz
from Quaker Records - Bradford Mo. Meeting: 17th of 11th mo.; 1739: Ann Buffington ack. for mar. by a priest. 17th of 9th mo., 1762: Richard and Ann Buffington, ack. for mar. with assistance of a priest; also requesting for their four children, Richard, Jesse, Ann and Esther, to be rec'd. Due to the time span, the above Ann cannot be the same person. So perhaps that rebel streak ran in the family! The above Richard is probably Richard Jr. The 'original' Richard was b. 4/30/1655; Ann abt. 1660. Richard Buffington was born in Great Marlow upon the Thames, Buckingshire, England March 30, 1655. He died Jan 8, 1747/48 in Chester Co, PA at 92 yrs of age. He married 3 times: Alice Palmer, who died after 1748; Ann Francis England about 1673. Ann was born in Great Marlow about 1652. Ann died after 1695. "June 5th, 1689, Anne ye wife of Richard Buffington being by Warrnat Apprehended and Conviced before John Bristow for defiling her marriage Bed was by her Suirtyes Richard Buffington and Francis Little bound over to this Court and accordingly made her appearance and was indicked. She was found guilty and judgement is granted that shee recieve 10 strips upon her backe well laid on and 12 months imprisonment att hard labour in ye house of correction and to pay all court costs. James Chivers was the witness." (From Record of the Courts of Chester County, Pennsylvania, 1681-1697); published by the Colonial Society of Pennsylvania, 1910, pages 157-158. He married Frances Vane about 1710; Frances died after 1712. Wills: Abstracts and Administrations 1713-1825: Chester Co, PA (Will Book B, pages 200-268) BUFFINGTON, RICHARD. E. Bradford, Chester Co. January 7, 1747/8. February 10, 1747/8. B. 242. Provides for wife Alice. To daughters Hannah Dain, Mary Turner, Elizabeth Freeman and Lydia Martin, a Bible worth 30 shillings each. To son William all wearing apparel. To daughters Abigail Seed & Alice McArthur, a Bible each. To son Thomas' (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son Richard's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To daughter Ann Hickman's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To daughter Ruth Harlan's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son John's (deceased) heirs 5 shillings. To son Joseph remainder of real & personal estate and if he dies without heirs then to daughters Abigail & Alice. To Owen Thomas minister of the Anabaptist Society held at John Bentleys in Newlin £5 also to Society £20 in annual payments of £5. To Richard Kimbel £2-10. Executor: son Joseph. Witnesses: Evan Jones, Wm. Bennet, Saml. Grubb. They are my 7g-grandparents on my mother's side; their daughter, Lydia, having married George Martin, son of Thomas Martin and Margery Mendenhall. -----Original Message----- From: Karl or Pat Seitz [mailto:kseitz@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:24 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Dinner -- Ann Buffington Thanks to Paul Palmer, I now know why Gilbert Cope said in 1902 of my ancestor, Ann, wife of Richard Buffington: "... She was an outspoken woman of strongly individualistic views. She often did not conform to the conventions of her day and she was ready to stand by her friends in their difficulties, and lend her support as needs be in their non-adherence to the Quaker rules and regulations of the Province ..." Elsewhere, in that same paper Cope says her name appear in records in 1689, 1695 and March 1697/8. The latter when she and several others were indicted for attending an illegal marriage. Paul has provided details of the 1689 inicident. Does anybody what happened in 1695 to get her name in Chester County or Pennsylvania records? -- Karl Seitz >I'd like to invite my 6-greats grandmother Ann BUFFINGTON to see whether I >could get a reasonable explanation of some bizarre behavior that landed her >in jail. The following is from the court records: >*************************** >Chester County, Pennsylvania Court records 1681-1697 (printed ) > >p. 157 >Anne, ye wife of Richard Buffington being by warrant apprehended & convicted >before John Bristow for defiling her marriage bed was by her sureties >Richard Buffington and Francis Little bound over to this court & accordingly >made her appearance and was indicted. Witness, prosecutor James Chivers. >The grand inquest further ye bill whereupon shee is called to ye barr & >pleads not guilty & referrs herself to God & ye county. (petty jury names >given). >The testimony of James Chivers taken in writing before John Bristow remains >on ye file. The said James Chivers being againe attested in open court saith >he did see a man and a woman lying upon ye ground & ye man lying upon top of >ye woman & ye woman looking up he saw it was Anne Buffington. John Eldridge >being attested declareth as abovesaid. James Chivers upon his attest further >saith that Anne Buffington was very earnest to know who this man & woman >was for said she ~~ there is never a woman hereabouts that hath a black hatt >but I and then it must needs be me. June 5th 1689. > >p. 158 Wee ye jury unanimously agree that Anne ye wife of Richard Buffington >is guilty of this indictment whereupon judgement is granted that she receive >10 stripes upon her bear backe well laid on & 12 months imprisonment att >hard labour in ye house of correction & to pay all court charges. >********************************************* >Her 'confession' in the last line of the testimony is just about the wildest >statement I've ever seen in print, and I want to ask my honored ancestress: >WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!! > > Paul > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The 1910 census shows Norval as son of George and Mary Ann: Name: Norval S Kirkner Age in 1910: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: George Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Mother's name: Mary Ann Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Home in 1910: Tredyffrin, Chester, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age George Kirkner 49 Mary Ann Kirkner 38 Walter M Kirkner 20 Norval S Kirkner 18 John H Kirkner 14 Edith Kirkner 8 Everett A Kirkner 6 Calvan W Kirkner 2 George and Mary Ann both married at age 21; he is a laborer. She had 7 births, 6 living children. All in the fam. (and their parents) are b. PA. They are also in Tredyffrin in 1900; Norval is shown as Norman. There is also a son, William, age 2, b. 1897, who obviously did not survive; he does not show up in 1910. This census shows that George and Mary Ann have been married 12 years. There is no 1890 census; it burned, and we would not find them married in 1880. I can probably find George, but not Mary Ann, since we have no way of knowing her maiden name. Now this George would be 19 in 1880. There are 2 in Chester Co.; one is 20 (Charlestown) and one is 15 (E. Whiteland). The 19 yr old is the son of Henry and Jane. George has siblings, Jacob, 13, Joseph, 10, Eber, 6, and Leonard, 4. In 1870, they are in E. Whiteland Twp. Henry 37 Jane 33 Kate 12 (likely married by 1880) George 9 Lydia 5 (obviously did not survive; does not show up in 1880) Jacob 3 I do not see Henry in 1860; to find him, I would have to try variant spellings. In 1850, he is living in E. Whiteland with the John Gill family; he is age 17. Gail Admin, pa-census-lookup@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:31 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I am seeking info on Norval S. Kirkner b. 1892 in Chester County. He married Helen D. Wallis and had a daughter, Grace born 1914. I think Norval's father was George W. Kirkner b. apx. 1861. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Norval is listed in the WWI draft index - will look at his image. Sorry, Norval's image came up black. However, the images before and after his are those of his brothers, John Henry, and Walter. Index entry for Norval: World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Norval Smedley Kirkner City: Not Stated County: Chester State: Pennsylvania Birthplace: Pennsylvania Birth Date: 30 Mar 1892 Race: White Roll: 1877838 DraftBoard: 2 Walter's middle name is Morgan. Norval also registered for the draft for WW II. U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Norval Smedley Kirkner Name: Norval Smedley Kirkner Birth Date: 20 Mar 1892 Residence: Chester, Pennsylvania Birth: Chester, Pennsylvania Roll: WW2_2240627 Note regarding the images for the states of PA, MD, VT, and DE. These four states were scanned at the National Archives facility in such a way that the back of one person's draft card appears on the same image as the front of the next individual. The result is that when you click to view the original image, you will see the correct front side of the draft card, but the back of the previous soldier's card. Ancestry is aware of this problem, and is working quickly to correct this issue WWII image is attached - remember, the pg 2 show at the bottom is not his; only page 1 at the top -----Original Message----- From: Gail Steckel [mailto:gail@gregsteckel.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:34 PM To: 'Nancy Finch'; 'PACHESTE@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner Norval's middle name is Smedley. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Norval Smedley Kirkner City: Not Stated County: Chester State: Pennsylvania Birthplace: Pennsylvania Birth Date: 30 Mar 1892 Race: White Roll: 1877838 DraftBoard: 2 I will send you the image privately. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:31 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I am seeking info on Norval S. Kirkner b. 1892 in Chester County. He married Helen D. Wallis and had a daughter, Grace born 1914. I think Norval's father was George W. Kirkner b. apx. 1861. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks to Paul Palmer, I now know why Gilbert Cope said in 1902 of my ancestor, Ann, wife of Richard Buffington: "... She was an outspoken woman of strongly individualistic views. She often did not conform to the conventions of her day and she was ready to stand by her friends in their difficulties, and lend her support as needs be in their non-adherence to the Quaker rules and regulations of the Province ..." Elsewhere, in that same paper Cope says her name appear in records in 1689, 1695 and March 1697/8. The latter when she and several others were indicted for attending an illegal marriage. Paul has provided details of the 1689 inicident. Does anybody what happened in 1695 to get her name in Chester County or Pennsylvania records? -- Karl Seitz >I'd like to invite my 6-greats grandmother Ann BUFFINGTON to see whether I >could get a reasonable explanation of some bizarre behavior that landed her >in jail. The following is from the court records: >*************************** >Chester County, Pennsylvania Court records 1681-1697 (printed ) > >p. 157 >Anne, ye wife of Richard Buffington being by warrant apprehended & convicted >before John Bristow for defiling her marriage bed was by her sureties >Richard Buffington and Francis Little bound over to this court & accordingly >made her appearance and was indicted. Witness, prosecutor James Chivers. >The grand inquest further ye bill whereupon shee is called to ye barr & >pleads not guilty & referrs herself to God & ye county. (petty jury names >given). >The testimony of James Chivers taken in writing before John Bristow remains >on ye file. The said James Chivers being againe attested in open court saith >he did see a man and a woman lying upon ye ground & ye man lying upon top of >ye woman & ye woman looking up he saw it was Anne Buffington. John Eldridge >being attested declareth as abovesaid. James Chivers upon his attest further >saith that Anne Buffington was very earnest to know who this man & woman >was for said she ~~ there is never a woman hereabouts that hath a black hatt >but I and then it must needs be me. June 5th 1689. > >p. 158 Wee ye jury unanimously agree that Anne ye wife of Richard Buffington >is guilty of this indictment whereupon judgement is granted that she receive >10 stripes upon her bear backe well laid on & 12 months imprisonment att >hard labour in ye house of correction & to pay all court charges. >********************************************* >Her 'confession' in the last line of the testimony is just about the wildest >statement I've ever seen in print, and I want to ask my honored ancestress: >WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!! > > Paul > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I would invite my 5ggrandparents Peter & Catharine Barbara (Werner) Ziegler. The question I would ask is if when Catharine and her mother attended the communion service at Trinity Lutheran Church in Bucks County on 12/31/1773 did she know Margaret Hedrich (my 5ggrandmother on my mothers side) and her daughters? Did they even think that after 165 years, with my dads ancestors moving to Snyder County, VA, then back to Lehigh County and finally to Phoenixville where my dad was born and my mothers family moving south in Bucks County and then to Lansdale in Montgomery Co. where she was born, that their great grandchildren would eventually marry? I had an hour to kill yesterday and spent it in the genealogy room of the local library. I found the following contract for passage in the book Pennsylvania German Immigrants 1709-1786 edited by Don Yoder and published by Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc. in Baltimore, MD in 1984. It might be appropriate to take a moment and consider what our ancestors went through so we could have this day. Know all men by these presents, especially those whom it may concern, that we, the undersigned passengers, have contracted with Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope, Merchants in Rotterdam, even as we herewith contract for ourselves and our families in the following manner: Firstly, The above-mentioned Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope shall furnish us a good, comfortable, and well-sailing ship, in order with the same to have us transported to Philadelphia And to that end shall be made in the ship firm bunks for each whole freight, sex feet long and one and one-half feet wide. Secondly The above-mentioned Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope shall fit out the said ship well with good and proper provisions, namely: good bread, meat, bacon, flour, rice, barley, peas, syrup, butter, cheese, beer, good fresh water, and whatever else is necessary; likewise the ship shall be twice daily cleaned with vinegar and juniper berries, to purify the air; and daily there shall be given out to each whole freight the following: Sunday one pound of beef cooked with rice Monday barley and syrup Tuesday one pound of white wheat flour Wednesday one pound of bacon with peas Thursday one pound of beef cooked with rice Friday one pound of white wheat flour and one pound of butter Saturday one pound of bacon, one pound of cheese, and six pounds of bread for the entire week. besides, every day one quart of beer (as long as it remains good), and two quarts of water daily, to each whole freight. If brandy is desired, it shall be given each morning to every person who desires it. Lovers of tobacco, however, shall receive one pound to take along on the journey. Thirdly We, the undersigned passengers, want to have freedom (as Gods weather permits) to cook a few victuals for ourselves and the little children, and to make use of the fire from six oclock in the morning till the same time in the evening; also permission to be on deck; yet those who are sick are especially to enjoy the right to help themselves to the fire and water as often as they need it for their refreshment; likewise there shall be provided on the ship all kinds of aromatics and also wine, so that the sick can the better be cared for. In return for which We, the undersigned passengers, promise to pay to the above-mentioned Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope in Rotterdam, or on their order, for transport of our persons, baggage, and household goods, from Rotterdam to Philadelphia, SEVEN AND ONE-HALF DOUBLOONS for each whole freight, and the goods that we have with us shall be delivered on land there gratis, without our being forced to pay anything therefore to the stevedores. Now the freights shall be reckoned in the following manner: Children under four years old are free; from four to fourteen years, shall pay half freight; and fourteen years and upwards, full freight. But if anyone agrees to take them all together for less than the above-mentioned sum, Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope promise to do the same, except where it is plainly done as spite work against Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope, in which case they release the people from the contract, however, in such case those who offer cheaper transportation are to pay Messrs. Isaac & Zacharias Hope for the expenses which they incurred before the people arrived at the port. As proof whereof we vow and promise on both sides to carry out all the above faithfully and uprightly, binding to this end our persons and properties; In witness whereof we have validated this contract with our personal signature. Done at Rotterdam, February 16, 1756, (signed) ISAAC & ZACHARIAS HOPE. P.S. Without prejudice to others we let it be known that this year our agreement has been somewhat altered; the reason WHY and the way IN WHICH it has been improved is this: Because new merchants, who have never made the hourney, have had such [an agreement] prepared. The particular way in which we are now improving ours is as follows: Inasmuch as we, as experienced merchants, who have been transporting people twenty or more years already, have found that bacon and meat are very heavily salted, from which salted provisions scurvy and other complaints arise, and moreover, the High Germans are brought up moreon fresh than on salted provisions, we are ready to give two or three fresh meats weekly, which they will judge more fit for them. [On the margin of the first page, the following prospective emigrants, onaly a few of whom were Wertheimers, personally subscribed their names, with their proportion in freights.] Johann Philipp Oswald --- 1 freight Balthasar Thorwart --- 3 ½ freights Johannes Schäfer --- 2 freights Margarete Baumann ---- 1 bed [?] Georg Mehrling --- 2 freights Barbara Schlegling ---- 1 freight Andon Bock --- 11 freights Christoph Hartlaub --- 1 freight Philipp Stockhammer ---- 3 ½ freights Barbara Schar [Schärin] ---- 1 freight Hans Georg Frank --- 3 freights Kaspar Zottelmeyer --- 3 freights Mattes Gröss --- 6 freights Joh[ann] Pet[er] Ziegler --- 3 ½ freights Caspar Englert --- 3 freights Jak[ob] Kern --- 1 freight Joh[ann] Görg Knobloch --- 2 freights Melcher Landeck --- 2 freights Mattes Stumpf ---- 1 freight Joh[ann] Mich[ael] Dosch --- 11 freights Friedr[ich] Ott --- 1 freight Hans Görg Friedert ---- 1 freight Barbell Spiell[?] --- 3 freights Görg Jacob Spiell [Sprit?] of Schweinfurt --- 3 freights Mich[ael] Lousser --- 1 freight TOTAL --- 71 ½ freights
Funny that name should pop up. I was recently at the Chester County Historical Society and came across that name. Kirkner is my g grandmothers maiden name, she married a Whisler. They were located on Yellow Springs Road, Cedar Hollow PA. Mostly everythere there worked at the lime quarry. While at the library I was specifically looking for info on Salem School House. There were a few records available, basically roll call. However, his name was there along with Whisler, Rapp and many others. Old Cedar Hollow names. Would anyone have an approx date for the father of Norval which was stated as being George? I might be able to narrow a few things down through my records. Kirkners were a very large family and as always, named all the children the same. Judy ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Norval's middle name is Smedley. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Norval Smedley Kirkner City: Not Stated County: Chester State: Pennsylvania Birthplace: Pennsylvania Birth Date: 30 Mar 1892 Race: White Roll: 1877838 DraftBoard: 2 I will send you the image privately. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:31 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I am seeking info on Norval S. Kirkner b. 1892 in Chester County. He married Helen D. Wallis and had a daughter, Grace born 1914. I think Norval's father was George W. Kirkner b. apx. 1861. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The 1910 census shows Norval as son of George and Mary Ann: Name: Norval S Kirkner Age in 1910: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: George Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Mother's name: Mary Ann Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Home in 1910: Tredyffrin, Chester, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age George Kirkner 49 Mary Ann Kirkner 38 Walter M Kirkner 20 Norval S Kirkner 18 John H Kirkner 14 Edith Kirkner 8 Everett A Kirkner 6 Calvan W Kirkner 2 George and Mary Ann both married at age 21; he is a laborer. She had 7 births, 6 living children. All in the fam. (and their parents) are b. PA. They are also in Tredyffrin in 1900; Norval is shown as Norman. There is also a son, William, age 2, b. 1897, who obviously did not survive; he does not show up in 1910. This census shows that George and Mary Ann have been married 12 years. There is no 1890 census; it burned, and we would not find them married in 1880. I can probably find George, but not Mary Ann, since we have no way of knowing her maiden name. Now this George would be 19 in 1880. There are 2 in Chester Co.; one is 20 (Charlestown) and one is 15 (E. Whiteland). The 19 yr old is the son of Henry and Jane. George has siblings, Jacob, 13, Joseph, 10, Eber, 6, and Leonard, 4. In 1870, they are in E. Whiteland Twp. Henry 37 Jane 33 Kate 12 (likely married by 1880) George 9 Lydia 5 (obviously did not survive; does not show up in 1880) Jacob 3 I do not see Henry in 1860; to find him, I would have to try variant spellings. In 1850, he is living in E. Whiteland with the John Gill family; he is age 17. Gail Admin, pa-census-lookup@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Finch [mailto:finch62@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:31 PM To: PACHESTE@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Norval Kirkner I am seeking info on Norval S. Kirkner b. 1892 in Chester County. He married Helen D. Wallis and had a daughter, Grace born 1914. I think Norval's father was George W. Kirkner b. apx. 1861. Any info would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACHESTE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message