Sandra, Believe me, Sandra, I share your frustrations. I get requests like that every single day. I have found it much less aggravating to send a standard "form" response indicating that I cannot do research on Joe Smith if I don't have dates and locations. I also explain the limitations of the books people are hoping will have information. If I get a polite apology in return with the appropriate information, I'll go the extra mile for them. Otherwise, they simply get "Sorry, but I can't help you, try such and such." This happened just the other day, and with a simply reply from the requester, I had enough to go on to check sources other than just the original lookup request and got the individual back several generations. Not only that, but I also got a huge thank you and additional information that she subsequently found on her own as a result of the info I had provided. Bear in mind that many people making requests haven't got a clue what they're doing and are often taking a shot in the dark. In addition, the web pages that show lookup volunteers aren't set up to describe the content and/or dates of the published sources we're using. I've had to disappoint dozens and dozens of people who want information for 19th century church records because the Early Churches of Delaware County/Chester County are primarily Quaker and cover 1681-1800. Rather than getting ourselves all hot and bothered, since this appears to be an ongoing source of frustration both to the requestor and the researcher, maybe we should take the initiative and propose that the Rootsweb volunteer pages could be modified to include descriptions of the books offered for look-ups. While it might not eliminate all the problems, it might eliminate enough to make our volunteerism a little less painful. Anybody know how we can make such a suggestion? Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com In a message dated Tue, 25 Jul 2000 8:51:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@intelos.net> writes: << Did you all hear that noise?......it was me, pulling my hair out! Here is yet another query I received this afternoon.....her second email indicated that she felt this was sufficient, that I was nasty and she'd fix me and take her query elsewhere.........rats, right? I can't tell you how many emails I have had from other volunteers, indicating that the same things happen to them, all the time, and how maddening it is! Too bad there isn't a query form that people could print out, and follow, when asking for help....I just don't know what makes it so tough? I suppose if everyone always included, full name, occurrence interested in(birth, death, marriage, will), geographic location and DATES, all would be "right with the world"....or at least the world of volunteering! S. , >I'm ........ from Tn. and could you be so nice as to see if there is a Round,Rownd, or Rowen-Rowan will listed in early Chester Co. or a Maroe Will." >> > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== Check out other counties in PA! http://libertynet.org/~gencap/pacounties.html >>

Maybe all you can do is hope they're a "newbie" and just don't know any better! Don't sweat it, Sandy, you're so helpful to so many - it amazes me how much info you provide to people. But you can only do so much! Those of us who have been doing this for a while greatly appreciate your efforts - even if you haven't helped us personally. Don't let it get you down!! Gail -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Re: Will lookup Chester Co., Pa. > Did you all hear that noise?......it was me, pulling my hair out! Here >is yet another query I received this afternoon.....her second email >indicated that she felt this was sufficient, that I was nasty and she'd fix >me and take her query elsewhere.........rats, right? > I can't tell you how many emails I have had from other volunteers, >indicating that the same things happen to them, all the time, and how >maddening it is! Too bad there isn't a query form that people could print >out, and follow, when asking for help....I just don't know what makes it so >tough? I suppose if everyone always included, full name, occurrence >interested in(birth, death, marriage, will), geographic location and DATES, >all would be "right with the world"....or at least the world of >volunteering! > S. >, >>I'm ........ from Tn. and could you be so nice as to see if there is a >Round,Rownd, or Rowen-Rowan will listed in early Chester Co. or a Maroe >Will." >>> >> > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >Check out other counties in PA! >http://libertynet.org/~gencap/pacounties.html > > > >

It was such a pleasure to get a good query, I sent you ALL the Richard Adams on the CD, regardless of county. Sure wish there'd have been more for you in Chester....and earlier! S. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 ADAMS. JOSEPH West Fallowfield. September 12, 1791: October 31, 1801. Provides for wife Ann. To my 10 grandchildren, viz: Richard Adams, Ruth Heslet, Isabel Adams, David Weldon, Lydia Weldon, Jacob and John Weldon, Lydia, Andrew and Joseph Gibson, £10 each except Isabel Adams, who being infirm shall receive £15. To daughter-in-law Rebecca Adams 40 s. To son-in-law Jacob Gibson 40 s. Makes some provision for sister Ann Woodrow. To son James Adams and daughter Hannah, wife of James Gilleland, all my real estate in West Fallowfield or elsewhere. Executors: son-in-law James Gilleland and son James Adams. Signed x. Wits: George Copeland, James Ranken, John Daniel. Cumberland co Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 HATHORN, JAMES, Newton. September 10, 1795. November 18, 1795. Wife Martha. Son-in-law Abraham Boyd. Grandchildren Hugh Boyd, James Boyd, Robert Boyd, Martha Boyd and Alexander Boyd. Son-in-law William Adams. Grandchildren James Adams, Matthew Adams, William Adams and Richard Adams, all minors. Son Alexander Hathorn. Son James Hathorn. Exs.: Robert Quigley and Robert McCune. Lancaster co Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 February 11, 1813 February 18, 1816 ADAMS, RICHARD Wife. Susanna Adams. Children: Mary, Anna, Margaret, Susanna, Magdalena, William, Catherine, Elizabeth and Samuel. Grandchild: Casie Adams (child of Samuel). Son-in-law: Henry Flickinger (wife's name not stated). Ex. Williams Adams and Henry Flickinger. Cocalico Twp. Philadelphia co Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 ADAMS, RICHARD. Providence, Philadelphia Co. Yeoman. February 1, 1747/8. March 24, 1747. H.528. Wife: Alse. Children: Susannah (late wife of Conrad Kistard), Catherine (widow of John Morris), Mary (widow of Israel Morris), Margaret (wife of Paul Caselbeary), Elizabeth (wife of Thoma Bull), Ann (wife of Jacob Urnstatt), Abraham, Abigal, William, Isaac and Hannah (wife of Owen Evans). Exec: William and Isaac Adams and Owen Evans. Proved at Salford. Witnesses: Richard Bull, James Beton, Peter Tyson. -----Original Message----- From: jane pinkerton <jane.pinkerton@gte.net> To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Re: Will lookup Chester Co., Pa. >Dear Sandra, > >Yes, it must be terribly frustrating for you do get this kind of response >especially when you are so nice as to do us all a favor. I have one for you! I >am trying to find a record of Richard Adams who was in Chester County very >early--about 1700 or earlier. There may have been two Richard Adams, father and >son. Can you find a will or mention in a will for either of them. Time period >1690 to 1770. Any help that you can give will be greatly appreciated. > >Jane Pinkerton >Burbank > >Sandra Ferguson wrote: > >> Did you all hear that noise?......it was me, pulling my hair out! Here >> is yet another query I received this afternoon.....her second email >> indicated that she felt this was sufficient, that I was nasty and she'd fix >> me and take her query elsewhere.........rats, right? >> I can't tell you how many emails I have had from other volunteers, >> indicating that the same things happen to them, all the time, and how >> maddening it is! Too bad there isn't a query form that people could print >> out, and follow, when asking for help....I just don't know what makes it so >> tough? I suppose if everyone always included, full name, occurrence >> interested in(birth, death, marriage, will), geographic location and DATES, >> all would be "right with the world"....or at least the world of >> volunteering! >> S. >> , >> >I'm ........ from Tn. and could you be so nice as to see if there is a >> Round,Rownd, or Rowen-Rowan will listed in early Chester Co. or a Maroe >> Will." >> >> >> > >> >> ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >> Check out other counties in PA! >> http://libertynet.org/~gencap/pacounties.html > >

Did you all hear that noise?......it was me, pulling my hair out! Here is yet another query I received this afternoon.....her second email indicated that she felt this was sufficient, that I was nasty and she'd fix me and take her query elsewhere.........rats, right? I can't tell you how many emails I have had from other volunteers, indicating that the same things happen to them, all the time, and how maddening it is! Too bad there isn't a query form that people could print out, and follow, when asking for help....I just don't know what makes it so tough? I suppose if everyone always included, full name, occurrence interested in(birth, death, marriage, will), geographic location and DATES, all would be "right with the world"....or at least the world of volunteering! S. , >I'm ........ from Tn. and could you be so nice as to see if there is a Round,Rownd, or Rowen-Rowan will listed in early Chester Co. or a Maroe Will." >> >

Thank you Sandra for all of your hard work!

Nothing for a Robert or Margaret Hogue.....but, again, let me say........PLEASE include some sort of a date...not in this case, but in MANY, there are more than one with the same name, and without a date to go on I haven't a CLUE which would be the one you are interested in. If you'd just think about it for a minute-----what would YOU need to know to look something up for someone? A name, a place, and a date...right? Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Susan Budensiek <susanb@conc.tds.net> To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Chester Co Wills >Hello, >When you have time would you please check for a will of Robert Hogue or his >widow, Margaret Patterson? >Thank you!! >Susan > > >

You must not "catch on" too quickly, or be awfully bored, if you'll read the same post 20+ times.......! ( I AM kidding!) S. this is a little earlier than you specified, but I'll send it, just in case; Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 CHRISTY, JOHN, Milford. April 30, 1781/17 October 1781. Wife Agness. Sons David and William, minors. Dau. Sarah, a minor. William McClure, Sherman's Valley. Exs.: bro. William Christy and John Williams. Wit: John Kerr, John Orr, Hugh Magill. D. 57-8. (there were no mentions with the surname Cristy, and nothing for the other Chrisy given names) I could not possibly give all the references toa John & David Thomases...there are incredibly common Welsh names, and appear as witnesses, ex. etc probably 100 times, each, in several different counties...there were also several wills of Johns and Davids, in earlier time periods. Another problem is that the CD gives you all docs. that contain the 2 names you list, i.e. John Thomas, if they appear within 2 names of eachother, so I also sot all the wills that had, for example ..."leave to my sons John, Thomas and Rupert"...LOTS of reading through for me........so, I sent a few that might be of interest. the father's will of a John Thomas; Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 THOMAS, LEWIS. Darby. February 16, 1761. March 3, 1761. To son John Thomas £60. To my 3 other sons Nathan, Lewis and Isaac £60 at 21. To daughter Mary £40 at 21 or marriage, also household goods. Remainder equally divided. Executors: Cousin John Thomas of Blockley and Abraham Johnson of Darby. Witnesses: John Sellers, William Garrett, John Hayes. this is a little early; Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 THOMAS, DAVID. Newtown. January 24, 1781. May 1, 1789. Letters May 31. Provides for wife [not named]. To son David Thomas plantation in Newtown where I now live, containing about 147 acres, also stock, etc. To daughter Julian £50 specie. To daughters Rebecca, Margaret, Elizabeth and Jane £50, etc. each. To grandson Zaddock Laferdy £100 specie at 21. To son David 150 acres off the easterly corner of my land in W. Nantmeal, paying certain legacies. To son Uriah remainder of tract in W. Nantmeal at 19. Executors: Wife and son David. Sons-in-law Hazael Thomas and Jeremiah Jerman to assist them. Letters to David, the other, Ruth Thomas, renouncing. Wit: Hezekiah Thomas, William Haslewood. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 THOMAS, DAVID, DR. Lower Oxford. May 8, 1824. Benjamin F. Thomas, administrator. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 THOMAS, DAVID. West Nantmel. May 9, 1825. Jane Thomas, administrator. -----Original Message----- From: Mark.Christy@DecisionOne.com <Mark.Christy@DecisionOne.com> To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Chester Co Wills > > >Sorry Sandra. In this case I think I only need the following between 1805 and >1834. I hope this isn't too much of a gap. > >John Christy (Cristy) >William Christy (Cristy) >Samuel Christy (Cristy) > >Also, for John Thomas and David Thomas? > >Thanks so much in advance. By the way, I read everyone of your postings, even >those that cause all the ruckus. (LOL) :-) > >Thanks again, >Mark > > > > > >"Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@intelos.net> on 07/20/2000 12:44:28 PM > >Please respond to "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@intelos.net> > >To: Mark Christy/NotesOne@NotesOne >cc: >Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Chester Co Wills > > > >I need dates to go with the names. what I have are a few books on Chester >co, and a CD of PA wills,, 1682-1834. Always include dates with any query >you place. > S. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark.Christy@DecisionOne.com <Mark.Christy@DecisionOne.com> >To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> >Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:57 AM >Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Chester Co Wills > > >> >> >>Sandra, some fun with your computer, heh? I can't help but think what >Jesus >>once said: "Let he without sin cast the first stone". We must live in a >perfect >>world? :-) >> >>I have a question, I have been reading all of your posts hoping to find a >common >>link, and was curious if you have a searchable database where you find this >>information? >> >>If you can do a search, and please don't use up too much of your time, can >you >>please search for information on: >> >>John Christy (Cristy) >>Lewis Christy (Cristy) >>William Christy (Cristy) >>Samuel Christy (Cristy) >> >>Also, for John Thomas and David Thomas? >> >>If my request is unreasonable, please accept my apologies. I, unlike >others >>whom which I have recently read about, recognize that you would being doing >me a >>favor, and at no time should favors be taken for granted nor should they go >>unappreciated. >> >>If you can help me, great. If not, I understand completely. Thank You! >> >>Have a great day, >>Mark >> >> >> > > > > > > > >

Message text written by INTERNET:PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com >< Please forgive my ignorance on the history of religion. Is there any connection between Brethren and New Born's in modern Appalachia, in particular, and with Seventh Day Adventists? New Born's believe in adult baptism and Seventh Day Adventists believe in feet washing. Sorry, for my ignorance on this topic. Ray

here some a few others to, perhaps, confuse you more....hopefully, though, there will be clues. I don't remember which ones I've sent, so there may be repeats....I don't try to decide what is aplicable and what isnt; just send them all, but I do think there is some "paydirt" in this batch! S. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 WAY, JOSHUA. West Caln. April 12, 1802. October 1, 1814. Died August 4, 1814. To wife Ann the plantation I live on absolutely; also all personal estate. To my grandsons Joshua and Way Jefferis my plantation in Brandywine when 21; rents and profits until that time to be kept for my gr. daus. Lydia & Hannah Jefferis and paid to them at 18. Executors: Wife Ann Way. Dau. of Peter & Mary Kerlin, m. Joseph Bishop, 2d. Joshua Way, widower 4-18-178?. Wits: Richard White, Benjamin Hunt. Letters c t a to Abraham Jefferis, the Executor named being December'd. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 WAY, ANN. Widow. West Caln. Dau. of Peter Kerlin & Mary. January 21, 1816. January 7, 1817. Died December 27, 1816. To sister Mary White's children, Nathaniel, Elizabeth Purviance, and Mary Brown, £200, to be divided, and to Sarah Branson and Lydia White £100 each. To 2 gr.sons Joshua and Way Jefferis the land whereon I live, contained in two patents, paying £400 to Exrs. Toward repair of West Caln Meeting House £30. To son-in-law Abraham Jefferis West Caln £100. Step-son-in-law. To gr.dau. Hannah Jefferis articles named. Rem. to gr. daus. Lydia and Hannah Jefferis. Executors: Son-in-law Abm. Jefferis and James Yearsley. Wits: Edward Webster, Abm. Vernon, Wm. Brown. Ann Kerlin March Joseph Bishop & Joshua Way. to be equally divided between my other 3 children, Elizabeth, Ann Jane and Thomas. Executor: James Sterrett. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 JEFFERIS, ABRAHAM. West Caln. May 1, 1822. December 9, 1822. Provides for wife Ann, inc. lands left to her by her uncle John Bleaky in Northampton Co. To sons Abraham and Isaac my lands contained in three adjoining tracts in Wayne Co., Indiana. Ramainder of land and other estate to be sold and proceeds, subject to wife's interest, to 7 of my children, viz: Lydia Grier, Hannah, Joshua, Way, William, Martha and Jacob. William's share to be in trust. Executors: Wife Ann and son Way Jefferis and James Yearsley. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 JEFFERIS, ABRAHAM. Pennsbury. September 20, 1824. Benjamin Taylor and Thomas Walter, administrators. At Orpans' Court March 28, 1826: on petition of Mary Jefferis widow of Abraham of Pennsbury, Isaac Miller is appointed guardian of Pusey, Louisa, Jacob, Kersey & Parker Jefferis, under 14 yrs of age. ts: James Davis, Samuel Coates, Jr. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 WAY, MARY. W. Caln. December 23, 1785. February 10, 1786. To son John Whitaker £60. To grandsons Peter and Phineas £30. To Rachel, wife of Joseph Ash, £15. To John Whitaker, Jr. £15. To Hannah Whitaker £15. To Reuben Whitaker £5. To Mary, daughter of Joseph Ash, and Mary, daughter of Phineas Whitaker, £5 each. Executor: Thomas Stalker. Wit: Edward Vernon, Joshua Way, Ann Way. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 WAY, MARY. Widow. W. Caln. June 25, 1787. May 24, 1788. To brother Thomas Kerlin £5. To Susanna Halliday £10. To Sarah, daughter of brother John Kerlin, deceased, £15. To Ann Smith, daughter of said brother, £10. To Davis, son of said brother, £10. To Ebenezer Pyle £5. To Hannah, wife of James Peirce, £5. To Susanna Mitchel £50. To Joshua Way £50 in trust for walling Friends graveyard in W. Caln. To my 2 sisters Susanna Mitchell and Elizabeth Pyle all my lands on north side of Lancaster Road between Caleb Way's and James Clemson's, and all woodland being about 30 acres, and all household goods, except clock, which I give to James, son of Caleb Way. To Mary Clamford, daughter of brother Isaac Kerlin, £0. Executors: Friends Joshua Way, Edward Vernon. Wit: Thomas Hibbin, Caleb Hawley, George Ogelsby. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 GREEN, THOMAS Children: Hannah wife of Joshua Way and Susanna wife of John Clemson. Grandchildren: Mary, Joshua, Matilda, Elizabeth, Susan, Phebe, Faithful and Sidney Way and Thomas, James, Joseph, Hannah, Elizabeth and Susanna Clemson. Ex. Samuel Downing and John Feree. Salsbury Twp. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 COX, ANDREW.* East Caln. June 12, 1760. August 26, 1760. To son Andrew £20. To son John £10. To son Peter £10 at 21. To daughter Sarah Hughs 5 shillings. To 4 daughters Rebecca, Mary, Martha and Elizabeth Cox £3 each at 18. To wife Mary remainder of personal estate and use of real estate during widowhood. At her decease to be divided among the 7 following of my children, viz., Andrew, John, Peter, Rebecca, Mary, Martha and Elizabeth. Executors: Wife Mary and cousin Joseph Bishop. Letters to Mary Cox, the other renouncing. Witnesses: Joseph Bishop, Mary Stanfield, George Larow. * Andrew Cox married Mary Bishop January 25, 1729/30 St. Paul's, Chester. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 BISHOP, JOSEPH. W. Caln. April 9, 1777. April 16, 1781. To oldest son Thomas, sons George and Samuel £100 each. To daughter Sarah Babb £10. To daughter-in-law Ann Bishop £20. To grandchildren Joseph Bishop son of Thomas, Joseph son of George, and Joseph son of Samuel Bishop. John Fleming son of Henry, deceased, Sarah daughter of Joseph Cookson, and Joseph son of Thomas Babb, £4 each. All lands in W. Caln and Edgmont to be sold. Executors: Sons Thomas and George. Wit: Jno. Griffith, David Dawson, James Peirce. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 BISHOP, JOSEPH, JR. W. Caln. February 7, 1771. April 8, 1783. To wife Ann all estate of every description, that is plantation I now live upon, house and lot in the town near the Brewery known by the name of Londonport. Also whatever my Uncle Joseph Cloud has left me in his will, except £5 to my father's negro man, Charles Bender. Executrix: Wife Ann. Wit: Edw'd. Vernon, John Fleming, John Sinklet. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 KERLIN, PETER, Amity. November 12, 1823. Adm. to John, son, and Daniel NEIN, Jr., son-in-law. The widow renouncing. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 KERLIN, PETER. February 23, 1762. Concord. Adm. to Joseph Kerlin. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Seitz <kseitz@earthlink.net> To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:45 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Jefferis, Way, Kerlin >Thanks to Sandra Ferguson's posting of will abstracts for somebody >else, I think I have discovered something about one of my ancestors >for which I'd like confirmation and which may provide a way to find >out more about another line. > >The widow Ann WAY of West Caln, daughter of Peter KERLIN and Mary >CLOUD, died Dec. 27, 1816. Her executors are James YEARSLEY and >son-in-law Abraham JEFFERIS, who is also called step-son-in-law in >the posted abstract. > >Among her heirs are grandchildren Lydia, Hannah, Joshua and Way >JEFFERIS. These appear to be the children of my ancestor Abraham >JEFFERIS (1763-1822), apparently the executor mentioned above, and >his first wife, Martha WAY (1768-1797). > >However, according to the Quaker genealogist Gilbert Cope, Martha WAY >is the daughter of Joshua WAY and Lydia CHANDLER. > >If Ann KERLIN is the second wife of Joshua WAY, this all makes sense. >She would be stepmother to Martha, who was already dead by the time >Ann made out her will. It also would mean that Ann remained close to >her step-son-in-law even after he married a second time, to Ann >SHARPLESS Carter, and had four more children. > >My first question: Can anybody confirm, including dates and location, >that Ann KERLIN is the second wife of Joshua WAY, whose first wife >was Lydia CHANDLER? A quick search with an Internet search engiine >indicates Ann KERLIN may herself have been previously married to a >Joseph BISHOP. > >Second, I'd like to know more about Ann KERLIN's ancestors. The >reason is as follows. I am descended from Abraham JEFFERIS and Ann >SHARPLESS. Their granddaughter and my great-great grandmother, Hannah >Bennett JEFFERIS, married William K. KERLIN in Wayne County, Ind. >There is reason to believe that William KERLIN's line in this country >goes back to southeast Pennsylvania via Tennessee and Virginia, but >we have been unable to confirm it. Peter KERLIN may provide a >backdoor way of finding that confirmation. > >-- >Karl Seitz > > > > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > >

Hi all- I will be on vacation until Aug. 15, so please do not send any requests for lookups until the 15th. Otherwise they may get lost in cyberspace. I will be glad to do looksups again when I get back. Anne Broomall Wiegle 1850 PA Census CD # 305 PA Vital Records CD # 172 PA Wills CD # 209

----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Rhoads <rhodoray@brinet.com> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Frazer > > > While Philadelphia Memorial Park may indeed have been started in the 20th century > there are grave sites there from 19th century burials. Americal Mechanics > Cemetery in Philadelphia was closed in the 1950's and the remains from there were > reintered in Philadelphia Memorial Park . My great grandparents and gg > grandparents as well as other members of there families were reintered there in > 1951 and 1952. > > Ray Rhoads > > Hi All I hope this is okay to do on a list. Is anyone interested in buying grave sites in Philadelphia Memorial Park? I have a relative in Florida interested in selling 18 grave sites purchased as an investment in the 1930's. These sites are in Block G, Section B., six grave sites to a lot. Since The Park will not buy back lots, individual owners are free to sell to any interested party. I would be happy to put anyone interested in touch with the owners. Stephen > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Visit the US GenWeb Master States Index Page > http://www.usgenweb.org > > > >

Looking for family of a HENRIETTA DEAL who married a WILLIAM JACOBS in Philadelphia on December 24, 1837. They were married by a Rev. Joseph Rusling. Henrietta's parents were a JOHN and HENRIETTA AMES(?) DEAL who lived in Philadelphia and attended St. M&Z and St. John's ME Churches during the years 1815 - 1830. Henrietta Deal died in 1848 and was buried in Monument Cemetery. Would anyone know what churches Rev. Joseph Rusling was affiliated with in Philadelphia other than St. John's ME? Thank you Marie

Thanks to Sandra Ferguson's posting of will abstracts for somebody else, I think I have discovered something about one of my ancestors for which I'd like confirmation and which may provide a way to find out more about another line. The widow Ann WAY of West Caln, daughter of Peter KERLIN and Mary CLOUD, died Dec. 27, 1816. Her executors are James YEARSLEY and son-in-law Abraham JEFFERIS, who is also called step-son-in-law in the posted abstract. Among her heirs are grandchildren Lydia, Hannah, Joshua and Way JEFFERIS. These appear to be the children of my ancestor Abraham JEFFERIS (1763-1822), apparently the executor mentioned above, and his first wife, Martha WAY (1768-1797). However, according to the Quaker genealogist Gilbert Cope, Martha WAY is the daughter of Joshua WAY and Lydia CHANDLER. If Ann KERLIN is the second wife of Joshua WAY, this all makes sense. She would be stepmother to Martha, who was already dead by the time Ann made out her will. It also would mean that Ann remained close to her step-son-in-law even after he married a second time, to Ann SHARPLESS Carter, and had four more children. My first question: Can anybody confirm, including dates and location, that Ann KERLIN is the second wife of Joshua WAY, whose first wife was Lydia CHANDLER? A quick search with an Internet search engiine indicates Ann KERLIN may herself have been previously married to a Joseph BISHOP. Second, I'd like to know more about Ann KERLIN's ancestors. The reason is as follows. I am descended from Abraham JEFFERIS and Ann SHARPLESS. Their granddaughter and my great-great grandmother, Hannah Bennett JEFFERIS, married William K. KERLIN in Wayne County, Ind. There is reason to believe that William KERLIN's line in this country goes back to southeast Pennsylvania via Tennessee and Virginia, but we have been unable to confirm it. Peter KERLIN may provide a backdoor way of finding that confirmation. -- Karl Seitz

While Philadelphia Memorial Park may indeed have been started in the 20th century there are grave sites there from 19th century burials. Americal Mechanics Cemetery in Philadelphia was closed in the 1950's and the remains from there were reintered in Philadelphia Memorial Park . My great grandparents and gg grandparents as well as other members of there families were reintered there in 1951 and 1952. Ray Rhoads

Hi! I am hoping to find out the address of this church I have mentioned as it is the church that my grgrandparents belonged to. From the small amount of information that I have, I believe it is in Paoli!? My grgrandparents names are Daniel D. Tompkins and Emily Mercier Tompkins. In fact if anyone out there has more information to offer about these two people, I would be VERY GRATEFUL> Perhaps one day I could return the favor to someone. My home email address is dreamer549@prodigy.net Thanks in advance!!! Carolyn Showers

Let me take this opportunity on behalf of the listers to say ThANKS for all the work you put into suppling so many people with information. I read with interest your e-mails to everyone. You certainly are a special lady with your devotion to the Chester County website. My husband's family is interlaced with Clendenins, Pattersons, and Andrews intermarriages through out Chester and Lancaster Counties. I recently found a picture of Dr. Arthur Andrews and wondered if you might have some info. on an Andrews doctor. I can't give you any dates, wish I could. Many Thanks, Mary Jennings hermosajenn@msn.com

I must have missed the question, but I gather someone is looking for a cemetary in Frazer. There are three that I know of. The oldest is located on Route 30 next to Covenant Presbyterian Church. The largest is Philadelphia Memorial Park, located on Phoenixville Pike. The other has a Hebres name and is also located on Phoenixville Pike. These latter two were, I think, started in the 20th century. If you are looking for an old burial, it is likely in the Covenant burial grounds. Wendy McLean

This is the strangest sect I've ever heard of. It existed in Chester in the 1840s, and had a number of followers in the northern part of the county. In 1844 a number were arrested, some actually tried and convicted. It's principals were essentially those known as "free love" , the leading idea being that all connection between husband and wife was severed and to possess all things in common, in "every sense of the word". Theophilus Gates. of Philadelphia, was the societies leader, but a woman, Hannah Williamson (single), was a female votary of the soc.....pretty durn risqué for the 1840s! S.

1) Did the East Vincent Reformed Church have it's own cemetery? 2) What is the name of the East Vincent Reformed Church today? 3) In the 1800's the Brownback's Cemetery was often used by people that show in the East Vincent Reformed church and Zion's Lutheran. Is this now the Bethel Methodist Church cemetery? I have the list of cemeteries on the Chester County site but need to know where to actually look (physically) with the names of churches having changed over the years. I'm assuming that the Zion's Lutheran Cemetery that is now in Spring City is the same as the own that was in Pikeland. If I am wrong, please correct me. (As you can tell, I'm not from PA *smiles*) Thanks for the help. Chris Lehr

Church of the Brethren is not the same as Mennonite although lots of Brethren were Mennonites before they were Brethren. The Church of the Brethren (called German Baptist Brethren) was formed in Germany in 1708. Seven of the original eight members were Presbyterians and the other was a Lutheran. They baptized each other at the River Eder, near Schwarzenau. Their first minister was Alexander Mack, but no single person was ever recognized as the 'founder.' Many converts were Anabaptists like the followers of Menno Simon (Mennonites) with some difference in the form of service, the chief one being an insistence on baptism by immersion, hence they have popularly been called "Dunkers" or Dunkards (from the German word 'to dip'). They were persecuted in Germany and came to America in 1719 and settled near Philadelphia. This small group was led by Peter Becker, a weaver. My ancestors include Elder Johannes Naas and when he came to Pennsylvania in 1723, large numbers flocked to Germantown to hear him preach - Martin & Catherine Urner were among them as well as my ancestor Johannes Heinrich Landis and wife Elizabeth. The Landises and Urners were among six baptised that day in Wissahickon Creek. In 1724 Martin Urner was elder in charge of a second congregation instituted by Peter Becker. By 1891 there were estimated to be about 100,000 in America. Their tenets were industry, frugality, abstaining from extravagance and worldly display. The New Testament was their rule of faith. None were recognized as members until they were baptised by being dipped three times. Feet-washing was another ordinance, brothers washing brothers, and sisters washing sisters, never each other. They held love-feasts with unlimited food, Christ's supper being the authority for it. At communion they gave thanks for bread and wine - observed once or twice a year at every church, always at night. Church government is republican. Women kept their heads covered in church. Speakers in their church received no salary. (One sees some similarities to Quakers here too though in my research I have never seen converts either way). There are Brethren History books detailing the various churches and congregations - wonderful source for genealogists. There is also a Brethren mailing list on RootsWeb. Probably more than you ever wanted to know - Nadine ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Mennonites > Is the Church of the Brethren the same as the Mennonite? If so, there > were "3 churches between 1725 and 1785 built on the Schuylkill. These must > have been in Chester co, as the Montgomery co churches are included in other > districts. the oldest one is on the Schuylkill road, in East Coventry Twp, > abouyt 3 miles from Pottstown, dated 1728. > The first Mennonite church in the vicinity of Phoenixville, located on > the ridge mear the residence of the Heckel family. Erection date unknown. > In 1772 was erected the Mennonite meeting-house in Phoenixville, located > on Main Street. > This sect, driven from the homes of their ancestry by persecution was > once numerous among the German inhabitants of PA, but is gradually becoming > extinct. It's membership at Phoenixville has dwindled down to a few > people" [this was written in 1889]. > Sandra > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message----- > From: Larry Cook <l.cook@mindspring.com> > To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:52 PM > Subject: [PACHESTE] Looking for COOK PA Ancestors > > > >I am trying to track down my Pennsylvania ancestors. > > > >Henry COOK (b. 1825, d. 1912) married Mary HOLLOWBUSH (or Hollabush) on > >about > >11-27-1851 in a Church of the Brethren in Chester County, PA. > > > >I learned just this week that Henry's father is Samuel COOK, who married > >Hannah REIFSNYDER. I learned this by obtaining a copy of Henry's death > >certificate. > >The only other information given about Samuel and Hannah is that they were > >both born in Prussia. > >The information on Henry's death certificate came from his son, John Wilson > >Cook, I, so > >I believe it is highly credible. > > > >Does anyone have Samuel and Hannah COOK in their tree, or know of any other > >trees having these names? > >Does anyone know how I can get any information about the Chester County > >congregation of the Church of the Brethren? > >I have posted an inquiry on the Brethren's mailing list, as well. I've also > >reviewed their web site, but can't find any information on this > >congregation. > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. > > > > > > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > >Visit the PA GenWeb Archives at > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > >