Is it possible that the flag holders in question were purchased from one of the mail order catalogs we all receive in the mail? If that is the cae , the design of the specific flag holder would be determined by the supplier of the mail order company. Harriet Carter comes to mind as a mail order company. Just a thought. I am a member of a VFW Post in Door County Wisconsin. Our Post purchases flags and places them on veterans graves for Memorial Day, and frequently encounter flag holders at some of the graves. We just assume they were placed by the families of the deceased veteran and do not disturb them. We just place our flag nearby the headstone. After Memorial Day we retrieve the flags for use the next year. With regard to identification of veterans graves we have developed, in conjunction with cemetery management, our own list of deceased veterans in the cemeteries we service. We work in cooperation with the cemetery and our county Veterans Service Officer to be a sure as we can be to assure that there is a flag on every veteran's grave. Every county in Wisconsin has a veteran's service office. They are a great help. Hope this has ben of some help in resolving your questions. Bob Lewis

Hi, In the past week or so, someone sent out a URL for Mennonite Genealogy research & of course I thought I would never need it! Last night I received a phone call, from a friend, she just found out her HOOVER Family were Mennonites &/or had a connection to them. Would you please e-mail me that URL again? Thank you! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

I found this site this evening and cannot believe I did not know about it before. Bureau Of Land Management - General Land Office Records http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Go to Search Land Patents. You can actually put up a gif file of the original Land Patent. I am in thrilled. Kathleen Burnett List Mom kburnet@efortress.com Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

Robert, There was a Mary Gray married to Thomas Chalfant 1745-1831. I have no age on her nor any idea who her parents were. Mary Gray would have died before 1775, because Thomas Chalfant married second 4.5.1775 Londongrove Mtg. Phebe Hayes, dau of David Hayes and Ann Baily. Barclay

There was more than one Thomas Chalfant of approximately the same generation. One was Thomas Chalfant born about 1745 who married Phebe Hayes at Londongrove. This Thomas was the son of Henry Chalfant and Elizabeth Jackson. Henry was the son of John Chalfant and Dorothy Adams. Another Thomas Chalfant was born 1758 and was the son of Thomas Chalfant, s/o Robert Chalfant s/o John Chalfant the emigrant. Thomas born 1758 married Mary Gray daughter of Drakeford Gray and Jemina Gladden May 1790 Nelson Co., KY. This is the so-called Thomas of Kentucky who filed a very interesting Revolutionary War Pension Application. Jane Pinkerton Burbank, CA Barclay Richards wrote: > Robert, There was a Mary Gray married to Thomas Chalfant 1745-1831. I > have no age on her nor any idea who her parents were. Mary Gray would have > died before 1775, because Thomas Chalfant married second 4.5.1775 > Londongrove Mtg. Phebe Hayes, dau of David Hayes and Ann Baily. > > Barclay > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm

<A HREF="http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/">Click here: German Genealogy Information and Resources | German Roots</A> http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ <A HREF="http://www.laca.org/Johnstown/states.html">Click here: One-Room Schoolhouses in 50 States</A> http://www.laca.org/Johnstown/states.html <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/geschwind/stewart/steg68.htm#46000">Cli ck here: stewart - steg68.htm - Generated by Personal Ancestral File</A> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/geschwind/stewart/steg68.htm#46000 Many names on this list, in link above. Mary Jane brightstar

Can anyone tell me if the Bradford Quaker Meeting House still exists, and, if so, how I may contact them? I have several ancestors who attended the church in the 1700's and 1800's. Lois

Hello, I am new to this list and I am writing because my great grandmother, before she died, wrote the following: "... James DUNCAN II and bride Elizabeth (McKINNIE) came from England about the year 1800 and settled in Chester County, Penn. They then came to Guernsey co., Ohio. He was a Revolutionary Soldier in the war of 1812... " Their daughter, Catherine Nelson DUNCAN was born 10 March 1803, Chester Co., Penn and died in Guernsey Co., Ohio, 6 February 1886. She married an Edward CARPENTER Jr., 20 March 1828 but Guernsey Co. does not have a record of their marriage so maybe they were married in Chester Co.? I would love to verify any of these accounts with documents or records. Does any of this look familiar to anyone on this list? Or can anyone direct me where I should be looking? Thank you for your consideration. Foster Barnes

I found a bit on the Wollertons....the first was Charles, son of another Charles, and born in Hicklin, Nottingham, England. Chas. II was a weaver, who came to PA and married 33-18-1726, at concord meeting, a Jane Chilcot. There is a note that says they were not Friends, but were allowed to marry before the congregation, according to the rules of the society. The settled in East Bradford, where he died at an advanced age, and was buried 5, 13, 1781, at Goshen Friends' Meeting. There children include a son, John. This John, died about 1794, and his widow, Mary, in 1795. Their children were Wm., Ziba, James, John, Sidney, Jane (married to Caleb Grey), and Susannah, m. to Dell Price. This could be your John Wollerton and wife Mary....all the dates fit. There are no references in PA wills to a Mary Grey, and below is the one that mentions the name John Wollerton. Sandra Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 WOLLERTON, JOHN. E. Bradford. December 4, 1794. Adm. to Mary and William Wollerton. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fisher <SCfisher@webtv.net> To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: [PACHESTE] Mary GRAY (1753- )E.Bradford, Chester Co. >Seeking spouse of Mary Gray, dau of John Gray (1722-1790) + Susanna ( >-1787) of E. Bradford. Some records show Mary mar John Wollerton (ca >1727-1795) in 1759 at Old Swedes Church, Wilminton, DE, but that would >make her 6 years old. Other rec. show a Mary Gray b. in 1736 who mar a >John Wollerton in 1759, but she couldn't be John Gray's dau, since he >was born in 1722 and would be 14 at her birth. Does anyone have a Mary >Gray born in 1753 who married someone else? > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > >

We have lots of info to exchange if you are our Wilman line, which has ties in the county. We are seeking the marriages/ death dates, locations, churches/cemeteries for the following lost Wilmans: Mary Willman b. ca 1832 NY Hannah Willman b. ca 1834 NJ George Wilman b. ca 1834 NY Henry Wilman b. ca 1843 Va(now WV) We can trace them until about 1872, when they probably married and moved.They were the children of Ernst Ludwig Bernhardt Wilman (also known as Louis Wilman and Louis Wilman de Manzius), a textile dyer who lived at various times in Glenham and Waterloo, N.Y.,Steubenville, Ohio, near Ripley, Va(now WV) and Philadelphia. He died at his son's in Warehouse Point, Ct in 1863 and may have worked also in Fall River, Massachusetts. We have found 1st Lt.Adolph, Bernard(our direct ancestor) and Louis C., other children. We also need the death date,location and burial site for our great great gerandmother, Eliza Parker Wilman, born about 1804/5 N.Y. last found in Philadelphia in 1886.She is probably buried near one of her children. We don't get here often, so please email to James0319@aol.com

Seeking spouse of Mary Gray, dau of John Gray (1722-1790) + Susanna ( -1787) of E. Bradford. Some records show Mary mar John Wollerton (ca 1727-1795) in 1759 at Old Swedes Church, Wilminton, DE, but that would make her 6 years old. Other rec. show a Mary Gray b. in 1736 who mar a John Wollerton in 1759, but she couldn't be John Gray's dau, since he was born in 1722 and would be 14 at her birth. Does anyone have a Mary Gray born in 1753 who married someone else?

Henry PEARCE, b:circa 1673 Calne. Son of Anthony PEARCE, clothier of Calne, Wiltshire and Katherine, maiden name unknown. Anthony dec'd by 1685 when widowed Katherine, then of Devizes, bound Henry to Francis SMITH, gentleman of Devizes. Oct 1685 Henry arrived in Pennsylvania aboard the Unicorne. By 1704 he was md: to Sarah SMITH, dtr of Francis and Anne SMITH and a founding member of St Paul's Episcopal Church in Chester, Delaware cnty, Pennsylvania . Known children of Henry and Sarah PEARCE: Catherine, Henry, Sarah before 1704, James by 1707, Elizabeth by 1713. Henry PEIRCE, the younger, married Sarah HUNTER 1729. Henry and Sarah PEARCE, the seniors, probably lived/settled in or near Kennett, Chester cnty, Pennsylvania. One or both may have died Cecil cnty, Maryland after 1733. Hoping to find others researching this Henry PEARCE to share/compare information.

Bob Lewis wrote > I think the best bet is to use alt 156, or alt 0163 > experiment with the alt key followed by various 3 or 4 digit numbers and Remember to turn on your number lock first.. then do the alt 156 like this £ and there you have the pound sign... Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com > > see what you find. My keyboard has a numerals 'pad' at the right end. > Numbers lock is on the top row immediately above the numeral 7. I found > these special characters with the numbers lock signal illuminated. I > find the degrees symbol by using alt 0186, and the symbol for fahrenheit > > at alt 0131 > For some reason I haven't discovered, these symbols don't come up for > e-mail. maybe someone can tell me why. > Good luck > Bob Lewis <lewis@doorpi.net> > > > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > To post a message to this list, send your message to > PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com > > > >

Thanks to all re Warwick from East Nantmeal Twp. 1842. Jim Houston

Try: <http://www.carrot-top.com/memorials.html> I think it will show your marker. Harry Howeth Lewes,DE harryhoweth@yahoo.com

To find Character map on Windows 98, go into Programs, the scroll down to Accessories, then down to System Tools, then down to Character Map. However, I did not find a pounds symbol among all of the characters listed. I think the best bet is to use alt 156, or alt 0163 experiment with the alt key followed by various 3 or 4 digit numbers and see what you find. My keyboard has a numerals 'pad' at the right end. Numbers lock is on the top row immediately above the numeral 7. I found these special characters with the numbers lock signal illuminated. I find the degrees symbol by using alt 0186, and the symbol for fahrenheit at alt 0131 For some reason I haven't discovered, these symbols don't come up for e-mail. maybe someone can tell me why. Good luck Bob Lewis <lewis@doorpi.net>

In a message dated 8/15/0 10:23:38 AM, tiggernut_48@yahoo.com writes: << I called the Delaware County VA, the Philadelphia County VA, and Arlington Cemetery. The woman at the Delaware County VA and I talked each otehr in circles with grave markers and flagholders. It seems grave markers are gravestones that you can order from the VA or that have to be in a regulation format, they are actual small headstones and have to say what war, dates of service and stuff. >> The above info on gravestones is NOT correct!! There are four (4) illustrations of Standard Goverment Headstones & Markers on the back of Form VA 40-1330: 1. Upright Headstone--White Marble or Light Gray Granite Size: 42 ins. long, 13 ins. wide & 4 ins. thick. Weight: Approx. 230 lbs. 2. Bronze Niche--For use if entombment is in a columbarium or mausoleum. Size: 8 1/2 ins. long, 5 i/2 ins. wide & 7/16 ins. thick. Weight: Approx. 3 lbs. 3. Flat Marker--Bronze Size: 42 ins. long, 12 ins. wide & 3/4 ins. rise. Weight: Approx. 18 lbs. 4. Flat Marker--Light Gray Granite or White Marble Size: 24 ins. long, 12 ins. wide & 4 ins. thick. Weight: Approx. 130 lbs. Note: In addition to the headstones & markers illustrated, two (2) specials styles of upright marble headstones & flat markers are available to mark the graves of - those who served with the Union Forces, Civil War, or during the Spanish-American War; & those who served the Confederate Forces, Civil War. It is necessary to submit detailed documentation which supports eligibility. The form you need to ask for is: VA Form 40-1330 If you need to order this form please call: 1 (215) 381-3138 The stone is free but it does cost you about $100.00 for the foundation! In the past 2 years I have ordered 73 of the Flate Granite gravestones for the Veteran's buried at St. Martin's Cemetery in Marcus Hook, PA. The Vets. were from the Revolutionary War, The War of 1812, The Mexican War, The Civil War & The Spanish-American War! At the local Veteran's Affairs Office in Media, Delaware Co., PA. Ask for Wm (Bill) Lovejoy, he is the director. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) <<The guy at Arlington Cemetery said that my flagholder with teh eagle on top is a generic marker that all sorts of organizations and families can get, and that they put on the graves. He also said the cemetery keeps no records of them and further, that if as they commonly do the grave marker got thrown in the bushes or knocked over by a lawn mower, it would hve been just put back next to any old grave. The emblem is a blown up image of the little lapel pin that soldiers were given when they left military service. The guy at the Philadelphia VA office said taht my marker is specifically a marker for World War II - and it's a blown up image of the lapel pin that people were given when they left military service. Do people have knowledge of this lapel pin thing? Possible connection to WW II? He also said that family members and organizations have to show him proof that individual people in graves were veterans to order an assortment of flagholders, including these. He said they keep no records, they just prove they qualify and they get their flagholders. Once upon a time they did keep records, which were on index cards and then transferred to computer, and tehse are in the basement in a filing cabinet and one must come in if one wants to look at them. Finally, he said that most likely, that flagholder that he says is for some WWII vet ende dup on my great grandfather's grave because a lawnmower knocked it over or it got thrown in the bushes, and they put it back in front of any old grave. I'd appreciate any further info anyone has. I did e-mail VFW and the American Legion, and the national VA administration. I got a reply back from the latter with the phone numbers of the Delaware County and Philadelphia VA offices that I just got through calling. Well, I had specifically asked for those phone numbers. But nothing at all about the description of the flagholder that I provided. I'd appreciate any further information anyone has. Once again, the flagholder in question has an eagle on top of the circular disk, which is quite different from any other picture of a flagholder I've come across. It has an outer circle, with "U.S.War Veteran" across the top, and at the bottom a crest with stars and stripes. In the center is a star, with actually another circle inside it that has "U.S." in it. On a part under the circular disk that attaches to the pole, is a small square with crossed bars on it. And supposedly, it is a blown up image of the lapel pin that at some point in history people were given when they left the military. I would think when that time in history was would narrow down when the person had to have served in the military or else when the flagholder was first put out. In front of whoever's grave. Yours, Dora Smith>>

Does anyone know if Warwick Twp. was once part of East Nantmeal Twp. and if so when was Warwick broken off. Jim Houston

Hello, I have the programs for the 1909, 1910, and 1922 North Coventry High School commencement, which includes the names of the students. If anyone would like a copy of these programs, please e-mail me off the list. Names are: Klink~Strunk~Sterly~Leary~Maurer~Keller~Gauss~Henzy/Kenzy~Stem~Murray~Lord~Haw s~Hoffecker~Mull~Hart~Yorgey~Longacre~Weigold~Frederick~High~Moyer~Ecker~Fishe r~John~Metzler~Patterson~Rath~Shaner~Bucher Annie <A HREF="http://www.genexchange.org/pa/index.cfm">PAGenExchange</A> Help keep Genealogy free! Become a County Coordinator for GenExchange. http://www.rootsweb.com/~pablair/

FTM CD-rom , '"Immigrants to the Middle Colonies, Servants to Foreign Plantations from Bristol, England 1654-1686" Record # 167 Public of Servant: Pearce, Henry Date of Entry: Oct 2, 1685 Book: II Page: 182 Son of Anthony Pearce, late of Calne in Wiltshire, Clothier, by consent of his mother Katherine Pearce, widow, of Devizes, bound to Francis Smith of Devizes, Gentleman." From: "Complete Book of Emigrants 1661-1699" is listed that Henry Pearce, son of Anthony Pearce of Calne, Wilts, clothier, deceased to Francis Smith of Devizes, 7 years. October 2, 1685 to PA by the UNICORN. EARLY CHURCH RECORDS OF DELAWARE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, Vol 1. by John Pitts Launey & F Edward Wright p.239 St Paul's Protestant Episcopal Church:Chester Members Roster 1704-05 .... Henry PIERCE and wife, ... p.246 Births, Deaths and Baptisms Henry PIERCE. Children: Catherine, bapt. 14 Jun 1704; Henry, bapt. 14 Jun 1704; Sarah, bapt. 14 Jun 1704; James, bapt. 07 Mar 1707, Elizabeth, bapt. 27 Nov 1713. p.250 Marriages Henry PIERCE and Sarah HUNTER m: 24 Apr 1729.