In a message dated 8/29/00 9:41:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HMWEBBER writes: << The Delaware County Historical Society has nothing to do with this!!! It is the new founded Delaware County Genealogical Society--people please take note to this!!! Please give credit where credit is do!! >> Hi Helen, I did not mean to take credit from anyone. I am still learning here myself. I thought that these groups worked together for a common goal, in presearving our geneology records.I really didn't know there was a difference between them, in that reguard.But I surely welcome anything you or the list can teach me about the differences, or anything pertaining to geneology. So if I am wrong about supporting one vs supporting another, then I stand corrected. Mary Jane Bright Star

In a message dated 8/29/00 6:17:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Booboopies@aol.com writes: << The official Mendenhall Family Association web site is located at: <A HREF="http://mendenhall.org/">http://mendenhall.org/</A> >> Hi Karen, Thank you for that addey. I will forward my post over to those folks. Mary Jane Bright Star

For those researching ancestors in the UK: Copies of Bishops Transcripts and Parish Registers are maintained by the various FHS`s in Wales, Scotland, England & N. Ireland. Some going back to the 1600`s. For a list of what`s available with prices see Genfair at: http://www.genfair.com Copies may be paid for in US $ with a credit card. This is a secure site. >From a satisfied customer. Lloyd D. Ellis

If anyone answers the query about the name "Blue Pig" please copy me as I am a "pig" genealogist (just to make my potbelly feel a part of things around here). Seriously I have collected a lot of information on pigs and our ancestors - did you know that Wall Street in New York is named after a wall that was built to keep pigs away from the inhabitants? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Patnaude" <Patnaude@Bellatlantic.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Blue Pig > Hello List, > > I just came back from the archives in Chester County, PA and wow what a > place. My hats off to PA and the great sources they provide. > > I have a gggrandmother who was born and died in "Blue Pig", PA. As far as > we know she was married at the home of her father, Barkley Clay Cooper in > Fremont PA. Anyone have any ideas on the name, Blue Pig. > > Frank, > Odenton, MD > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > >

Hi Dorothy, You may want to visit the Delaware County Historical Society to do genealogy research on your SCOTT & CAROTHERS. There is not just one person you can ask that would know all the surnames of everyone who lived in Dela. Co. This is research you would have to do yourself. <A HREF="http://www.delcohistory.org/dchs/">PA DCHS</A> http://www.delcohistory.org/dchs/ I do believe Frank VATTELANA, Jr., Chester Co., PA, has a Civil War picture on a CAROTHERS. You may want to contact him at: penn97th@epix.net (610) 932-3803. Frank is very interested in buying, coping & selling Civil War Pictures. Anyone who has an interest in the Civil War may want to contact him. Please let him know I referred you & he does great lectures on the Civil War! happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) In a message dated 8/29/0 10:24:26 AM, Irishlovey writes: << Dear Helen, I've just read your interesting and somewhat enlightening letter about Delaware County. I'm sure this will encourage many that have ancestors from that area. My question is, where or who do I contact to see if any of my ancestors lived or came from Delaware County? My surnames that I'm searching for is SCOTT and CAROTHERS. Supposedly, John, s/o Andrew Scott was from Chester Co. Pa. The Carothers were from Wyoming & Cumberland Co's. Pa. Some say they came in from NJ. others from Pa. & Md. They were early Colonist's and Patriots. Thank you for any help. Sincerely, Dorothy Cote <<Irishlovey@aol.com > >>

Hi, all you wonderfully helpful folks. I have just learned that the father of my Jane White Millikan of North Carolina (her husband was born 1720) was probably Alexander White of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Any information out there on Alexander White who would have had children born in the early 1700's? Thanks, Nadine Holder

In a message dated 8/28/0 11:41:26 PM, REDSKI9136@aol.com writes: << .I also think that we need to stand behind our Historical Societys. >> The Delaware County Historical Society has nothing to do with this!!! It is the new founded Delaware County Genealogical Society--people please take note to this!!! Please give credit where credit is do!! Happy hunting, Helen Founder & President of DCGS

Good morning, I, Helen M. Imburgia have recently become Founder/President of The Delaware County Genealogical Society of PA. Please read on to understand what we are about & to see if your are interested in becoming an advisior/member. A few months back, I had a discussion with a few of my friends about starting The Delaware County Genealogical Society of PA. (Ginny DeNenno, Doreen Hannum, Joyce Newlin Turnicky.) Over the years, when I instructed my Genealogy Workshops, or did lectures many of my students had asked me to become the founder of such an organization & to please do something about the county records! (Which, I always had in the back of my mind, to do, for many years.) I have contacted an attorney for instructions on how to set up this type of organization. I do not want to collect due's, so I did not need to incorporate! I do not want to have monthly meetings with by-laws, etc. In other words, I do not want the "old type of genealogy society" -- I would like to see an online Delaware County Genealogical Society of PA. We need to do something with a society that will move us into the "new wave," the future. I do suggest having lectures, in different parts of the county, at different times, on genealogy topics: census records, the Mormons, the Civil War, or any topic that would have anything to do with genealogy. By becoming more active in our communities, we will hopefully bring attention & more interest to genealogy. We dearly need to get back to our Family Roots! Furthermore, we are very concerned about our Genealogy Records at The Delaware County Court House & Fair Acres where the Archival Records are stored. Issues: 1. Archival Records--How they are kept & stored. We need a place to view these records & make them available to the public. Improper use, a docket was being used to prop a door open. There is no temperature control, where they are stored, etc. We have been give (3) reasons why we can't see the records. a.) We have been told there is no room for visitors to do research! b.) They are not insured to have visitors! c.) Someone stole a docket & now no one is allowed in Fair Acres to view the records! 2. Public Records--in general not being available to the public. Divorce Index, Citizenship Papers, Letters of Intent, Immigration Records, Veterans Records in the Recorder of Deeds Office, etc. To get Citizenship Records you have to call are go to the Passport Office, the clerk takes your name & the name your researching, she in turn calls a woman at home who gives her the Book and Page No. Then Fair Acres is called to retrieve the record. We asked why does this woman have the index cards in her basement? We have been given (2) reasons: a.) The woman she calls is/was part of the DAR Historical Society who did a lot of genealogy research over the years. b.) She was a former clerk at the court house & when she retired, she took the index cards with her because she had made them. 3. Missing/lost Public Records--Murder Index Docket; Adoption Docket (1865-1921) (maybe in Chester); Tax Docket; Dela. Co. Court House's Immigrate Wall Records, etc. 4. Clerks & people in charge at the Delaware County Court House--They are very unpleasant, rude; they act like you are bothering them; they do not want to help you & they make it very apparent; they get mad or upset if they have to make copies for you, they will not make a copy while you wait you have to come back next week, etc. (What if you are not from the area.) Note: If anyone ever experienced any difficulties &/or problems getting county records please contact me! My plans are, to have people online who can give advice, guidance, direction & help to anyone doing genealogy research in Delaware Co., PA. Over the years I have enjoyed giving advice but I'm now finding most of my time is spent doing this. Hence, I would like to compile a list of people who would be interested in being a member/advisor of the society by having an area of expertise &/or giving out genealogy advice on research in Delaware Co., PA. I for one, do not know everything there is to know about genealogy &/or Delaware Co. I would like to bring the many genealogist of Delaware County together collectively-- more heads are better than one, especially mine! :) SUBJECT NAME E-MAIL ADDRESS Bethel Twp. Rick Nicholson rick@dca.net Census Records Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Chester City Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Clifton Heights Tom DiFilippo Tjdif511@cs.com Concord Twp. Ginny DeNenno KRISTIND@erols.com Darby Borough Tom DiFilippo Tjdif511@cs.com Dela. Co. Court House Rec. Gloria Boyd glo777@home.com East Lansdowne Tom DiFilippo Tjdif511@cs.com General Genealogy Info. Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Ethel Dougherty EDoughe410@aol.com German Gene. Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Immaculate Heart Chr. Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Irish Gene. Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Italian Gene. Lower Chichester Twp. Helen M. Imburgia HMWEBBER@aol.com Newspapers Upper Darby Tom DiFilippo Tjdif511@cs.com Welsh Gene. Rick Nicholson rick@dca.net Note: When you become a member/advisor you may want to put (DCGS) after your name when answering queries so people know who we are! If you would be interested in signing up as a member/advisor for what ever topic you would feel comfortable giving advice on, please contact me. In no way are we to do the research for these people, only to give them direction & guidance. I have found people, especially from Europe & Australia, who really need help. In fact, anyone from outside the area, are at a loss, when doing genealogy research in an area or country they know nothing about! If you know of anyone who would be interested in becoming a member/advisor of the society, please have them e-mail me or call me at (610) 358-1102. Happy hunting, Helen Helen M. Imburgia 396 Derry Drive Aston, PA 19014 (610) 359-1102 HMWEBBER@aol.com

In a message dated 08/29/2000 3:02:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, REDSKI9136@aol.com writes: << <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8494/mendenhall.familypage.htm l">Click here: Mendenhall Family Page</A> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8494/mendenhall.familypage.html I found this surfing. Thought I would send to list. It mentions Chester Co. Pa. >> The official Mendenhall Family Association web site is located at: <A HREF="http://mendenhall.org/">http://mendenhall.org/</A> Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com zeke196@juno.com karenmullian.homepage.com pastmasters.homepage.com norwoodhistoricalsociety.hompage.com flax4sale.homepage.com

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8494/mendenhall.familypage.htm l">Click here: Mendenhall Family Page</A> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8494/mendenhall.familypage.html I found this surfing. Thought I would send to list. It mentions Chester Co. Pa. Mary Jane Bright Star

Is there anyone on the list that lives in the Chester and Delaware County area? I am looking for someone to look up a few marriages and deaths for me and see what documentation they may find.Needless to say I am not asking anyone to do this for free I will more than gladly pay them and cover all expenses such as copies fees and gas.My research centers around 3 individuals and basically I would be looking for birth marriage and death info on those 3 people. If there is no one on the list that could undertake the task could anyone recommend a Proffessional genealogist they have had personal experience of. In the not too distant future I shall be moving back to the Wilmington Delaware area until them I am stuck doing everything long distance from here in CA. Thanks Ian.

I am looking for info on any of the following if anyone has a clues on The Mariages of there children or any other info James Evan DAVIS June 20 1820 Edgmont Deleware co pa Abigail FAIRLAMB Nov 11 1811 Samuel Powell DAVIS April 8 1850 Mary Rebecca ROGERS May 17 1852 Have info on them My GGrandparents William T DAVIS Aug 28 1843 Chester co PA Hannah M SHIMER ???? Nicholas F DAVIS May 25 1845 Chester co PA Emma Jane PRIZER ?????? James DAVIS aug 4 1847 Easttown PA Emma Jane CARTER ???? Mary Eusebia DAVIS Jan 31 1852 D/oct 4 1885 Uwchlan Twp Richard Taylor PEARSON oct 20 1841 Goshen Pa Mable D PEARSON sept 12 1874 Anna R PEARSON oct 24 1878 I would love to hear from other researching any of these names Would love to find out more about William T DAVIS Nicholas DAVIS James DAVIS Sorry if some of you get double posting I am sending this to the Chester and Deleware lists The DAVIS FAIRLAMBS ROGERS all from Chester and Deleware co not sure about the rest of them Thanks Dotty Davis Hunt -- mailto:mouserwitz@mediaone.net ICQ13502416

Thank you everyone for getting upset about the attitude problem at the Delaware County courthouse! I had a similar experience at the Mifflin County Courthouse, trying to obtain a copy of a probate file. Below is all of the discussion about it on the list. Even though I'd written partly in response to two other people with similar problems who never got any response from the list, the people on the list were very snotty, and lectured me on how the clerk's office are swamped with work and can't do genealogical research all day, and how great the staff there are. Now, I knew the date of death, the town, the clerk did tell me they do have a probate file on her, so presumably they know where it is ; I wanted only a copy. I couldn't find or else two more replies I got were private, lecturing me for expecting those busy people to "spend their day doing genealogical research", and how wonderful and helpful those people are - if you can go there in person! And noone ever did take me up on my effort to swap services for someone copying my probate file for me. I have access to entire U.S. Census, as well as many Texas records - could do some great research for someone! I asked a friend on the Web who is knowledgeable, and he said try a letter to the town supervisor or something of the sort, and that they might be getting around it by saying you can go there in person to view the records, which indeed is the claim they are making. And that you can hire someone to get them for you. I really think that these offices are obliged by FOIA or whatever law covers court records to copy the files for you. Does anyone specifically know? I really wish someone would please tell me what law applies. And if anyone knows of an effective place to complain, I'll definately do it! Yours, Dora I just had an experience with getting probate in Mifflin County; I wonder what experiences other people have had. I called the court clerk's office for Mifflin County to ask if they had my great aunt's and her daughter's probate, and they said they had just the daughter's. Well, great, I said, how do I get a copy of the file? Well, the woman was rude, and she said they don't copy probate files for people "just for genealogy", "you'll have to contact the Historical Society". I pointed out to her that those are public records, and the law requires her to make copies. "The law requires us to make them available, but they are all the way down in the basement, and you have to have someone come in and make copies yourself". Now, I already have to pay someone $50 to get my great grandfather's probate in Philadelphia, where they follow procedures, just don't often find probate records that are there, and I really don't ahve this kind of cash to throw around; plus I believe they really have to have a procedure to make copies for people. Well, later in the afternoon I got her boss, who told me that actually they have an arrangement with the Mifflin County Historical Society to come in and copy those documents for people - for a fee. If that is indeed what other people have found to be the case, I have the phone number for Mifflin Co Historical Society at the other end of the house in my knapsack because I also was trying to call them today. They are only open Tuesday and Wednesday and half the day on Saturday I can't remember which half the day. Yours, Dora That phone number for Mifflin Co Historical Society is 717-242-1449. Phone number for recorder in clerk's office is 717-242-1449. If anyone wants to see what luck they have. I searched the PAMIFFLI-L archives for anything to do with will, wills, or probate, this came up: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:49:40 -0400 From: Alice Kern <akern@nauticom.net> To: PAMIFFLI-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990428194940.006a4b78@nauticom.net> Subject: [PAMIFFLI-L] Mifflin Register of Wills Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello listmembers, I recently wrote to the Courthouse, Register of Wills and asked if a certain will existed. I received a form letter back that they did not answer genealogical requests. I have never had a courthouse refuse to send me information. Every other courthouse in Pennsylvania that I have had contact with has been very co-operative. Is this something new? In the time it took them to send me the form letter, they could have looked up the will in the will book! Thanks! Alice Kern Searching for a will for Christian or Hannah KIPE/KIBE How long should I expect it to take for a research request to the Mifflin Co. Historical Society? I sent $$ May 10 for some research at the courthouse - specific deeds as well as a search in the indexes for a surname. The check was cashed soon after, but I have not heard a word as to whether they are really backed up, or if anyone is working on the request. Even a word that they haven't forgotten would be appreciated. Seems like I read that 8-10 weeks is not uncommon. If so, hopefully I will hear tomorrow - 10 weeks. I'm trying to be patient. Thanks. Ann Brickner annbrick@turbosurf.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I too just got back from vacationing in central PA, doing my research in Mifflin County. It's a nice small town kind of place, but, yes the ladies at the courthouse are swamped with work. They help you with what you need, but can't spend the day with you and your research. The people over at the Mifflin County Historical Society are great too, and will gladly help you with your research at the courthouse. Just be patient, and you'll get your info!! Honest! Lisa I'm afraid what we've been getting is a flat "no". Yours, Dora --- Lisa Kirkhoff <lmae@voicenet.com> wrote: > I too just got back from vacationing in central > PA, doing my research in > Mifflin County. It's a nice small town kind of > place, but, yes the > ladies at the courthouse are swamped with work. > They help you with what > you need, but can't spend the day with you and > your research. The > people over at the Mifflin County Historical > Society are great too, and > will gladly help you with your research at the > courthouse. Just be > patient, and you'll get your info!! Honest! > Lisa > > > ==== PAMIFFLI Mailing List ==== > > This entire dialogue with a Wayne Seibert: References <20000729022436.4449.qmail@web3204.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Date Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:14:01 -0700 Resent-From PAMIFFLI-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Message-ID <JlHSq.A._1G.5vkg5@lists5.rootsweb.com> Resent-Sender PAMIFFLI-L-request@rootsweb.com - On their web page the Mifflin Co. Court clearly states that the Historical Society be contacted for certain research. I, too had been a little upset by this but I was assured that I could search the records myself. I visited there earlier this month and found the clerks to be very busy but took time to assist me. In NY I wasn't even allowed to look at the books and had to show ID to get a copy of a death certificate. In Montcalm Co., MI I was a day late for the only day that genealogical research was allowed. Check the fees for research by the State of Pennsylvania (New Castle) if you don't know the exact date or place of an event. It's worse for the Social Security Administration if you don't have the SSN. These people in Lewistown have to deal with the administration of more current matters. Sometimes we find what we are looking for quickly, but usually we read and search for many hours to find nothing. I would hate to think that somebody's financial affairs after a recent death, or the court itself was delayed because I wanted to know if my gr-great grandaddy had a will. Certainly these are public records but a legal need must exist for them to be required to expend time on a search. Our hobby just doesn't qualify. > Guess we have a different understanding of the > law; I believe it says that they have to copy > those court records for you. > > I didn't say anything about anyone doing research > for me; would you kindly explain where you got > it? But please, just don't explain it to me. I > haven't the patience. > > Dora He of course explained anyway: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Records Administration is a very specialized field and one must not only know the Federal laws and court decisions, but many local laws as well. I certainly won't try your patience explaining so complex an issue but to not be redundant, how do you copy an old record without first locating it? By researching the files, right? I have been working with these laws professionally for 21 years and have been teaching on the college level for 15. If I were to gain employment as a records clerk I would still have to go to a specialized school to be qualified. We have all run into unreasonable public officials in the course of our hobby but be assured that a court of record, like Mifflin County, is operating within the law. Also, we should all realize that the Freedom of Information Act covers only certain Federally kept records, not state. States often comply eventually but some states like New York and California have very strict privacy laws so that even though a living person may be on a census, the state held records could still be sealed. May this be the last words on this topic so we can return to finding dead ancestors and living cousins. By the way, I have four direct Smiths from Mifflin, Hintingdon and and Bedford Counties that I'm looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut_48@yahoo.com> To: "Wayne Seibert" <wseibert@erinet.com>; <PAMIFFLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI-L] census research for a Mifflin County probate file I can't believe people wrote the things they did in response to my postings and my effort to find anyone to trade research with. I can plainly see why there was not a single response to the earlier posting about the same problem. Not one of you care. It's quite a switch from my previous experience with this list, which was that people were extremely helpful. It's always possible that the more helpful members of the list are on vacation, I guess. Those people are nice - and I can't imagine one of them writing such stuff - or indeed, not sharing my concerns and my feelings. If, instead of merely having snooty comments to make, anyone wants some census or Texas work done and can get to the Mifflin County courthouse to copy that probate for me, I"m still looking for such an arrangement. Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Good morning to all & thank you all so very much for your impute & advice! I'm going to compile & print out what everyone has sent me. If I don't respond back to you please forgive me but I want you all to know I'm working on this problem & I'm very grateful to you all for your help--this has been along time in coming! I'm going to start with local officials, but go on to state, federal, newspapers & TV. (I will update you as I go along.) I feel that if the locals think that know one else is evolved, nothing will ever be done to help us preserve & make these records available to the public. If we can't get to them now, with all this publics show of interest-- I think nothing will ever be done regarding these records! About 10 years ago there was an article in the Daily Times on how these Archival Records were going to be housed & preserved-- nothing ever happened!! Why was this placed in the newspaper was it an election year? My Calendar on The Delaware County Court House Records: Issues: 1. Archival Records--How they are stored & we need a place to view these records & make them available to the public. A docket was being used to prop a door open, there is no temperature control, where they are stored, etc. 2. In general--Public Records not being available to the public. Divorce, Citizenship Papers, Letters of Intent, Immigration, Veterans Records in the Recorder of Deeds Office, etc. 3. Missing/lost Public Records--Murder Index Docket; Adoption Docket (1865-1921) (maybe in Chester); Tax Docket; Dela. Co. Court House's Immigrate Wall Records, etc. 4. Clerks & people in charge at the Delaware County Court House--being very unpleasant, rude, they act like you are bothering them, they do not want to help you, they get mad or upset if they have to make copies for you, etc. 9:02 AM I phoned & spoke to President Judge Joseph F. BATTLE's secretary Ellen, at the Delaware County Court House: (610) 891-5180 -- no e-mail address She told me to call &/or write to Edward BLAIR, he is in charge of the records at the court house: Joseph E. BLAIR 201 W. Front St. Delaware County Government Center Rm. G-12 Media, PA 19063 (610) 891-4426 -- No e-mail address 9:14 AM I called the Daily Times & asked to speak to Linda DiMEGLIO, (ass't editor), I had to leave a message about the court records & our issues on her answering machine. (610) 622-8800 & e-mail address: newsroom@delcotimes.com 9:20 AM I called State Rep. (for Aston where I live) Stephen BARRAR & spoke to Beth. (Stephen is away.) I told her about our problem & issues. (610) 874-1358 -- No e-mail address Beth told me to speak to County Council first, before I do anything, especially Wallace (Wally) NUNN (Chairman). Wallace NUNN 201 W. Front Delaware County Government Center Media, PA 19063 (610) 891-4251 -- No e-mail address I called & left a message with the secretary of Mr. NUNN to have him call be & I explained to her what it was in reference to. 11:35 AM Mr. NUNN returned my call, he was very short with me as I tried to explain our problem & issues. He spoke to me for about 3 minutes. In doing so he told me with in a year they were going to try to have as much online as they could, starting with the important records first, mortgages, taxes, etc. (I asked if he could e-mail me a letter to that fact, that I could post on the web.) He went on to tell me to send him a letter & he would address our issues but that I might not like what he would says! (Was this a threat or was he trying to intimidate me?) He continued on by telling me how busy his job was & he had more important issues, tax assessments, abused children to worry about at this time. He does return phone calls but I had to understand he had xxxxxxx amount of constituent to consider. I asked him if I could just mention the four (4) issues (above) to him. He asked if it would take long (he was not being nice). I told him it would not take me long! When I mention issue (1.) he told me to put this in a letter. When I mentioned issue (2.) he has no control over records at the court house. When I mentioned (3.) he told me I was making him "mad" by even bring this up! When I told him about issue (4.) he wants to know about any court employee who screams at the public or is not doing their job. In conclusion, this was not a very pleasant conversation & I could tell he did not want to hear anything I had to say but wanted me to listen to him & understand his problems. Hence, write to Wallace NUNN, especially about issues #1. & #4. Please make sure the other County Council members names are on the letter so it goes to them, John McFADDEN Catherine DURHAM Timothy MURTAUGH Andrew REILLY 4:00 PM Jim ATKINS return my phone call from the Daily Times. He was very pleasant, understanding & interested in our problem. I had e-mailed some of the replies sent to me yesterday, to The Daily. Jim is going to check them out. I am also e-mailing this to him too! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

--part1_c8.998bffa.26dbab51_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rick, I can't thank you enough--great idea! Happy hunting, Helen --part1_c8.998bffa.26dbab51_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <rick@dca.net> Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:58:13 -0400 Received: from universal.dca.net (universal.dca.net [207.245.80.34]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:57:46 -0400 Received: from ricklaptop.dca.net (ppp-216-158-29-54.cust.oldcity.dca.net [216.158.29.54]) by universal.dca.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14849 for <hmwebber@aol.com>; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000827114549.00ad98b0@universal.dca.net> X-Sender: rick@universal.dca.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:56:10 -0400 To: hmwebber@aol.com From: Rick Nicholson <rick@dca.net> Subject: Freedom of Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Helen, Here are some links to some helpful websites. This may be your best recourse in your quest for public records. I've found that squabbling with local officials can be frustrating and unproductive, but invoking State and Federal statutes and having someone from the state or federal government contact the local agency can be very helpful. It really gives you alot more credibility when you can play the "government game" better than they can! Freedom of information acts and privacy exemptions: http://special.northernlight.com/privacy/freedom_information.htm http://www.spj.org/foia/index.htm is a whole Freedom of Information website, including links to all the state and federal agencies, as well as advocacy groups. Best wishes, Rick PS Feel free to forward these links as you feel appropriate. --part1_c8.998bffa.26dbab51_boundary--

<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/wv/akers/">Click here: My Ancestors</A> http://www.angelfire.com/wv/akers/ Main page for surname post. Scroll down to links. Sorry if first one did not work. Mary Jane Bright Star

Does anyone on the list know how to set up a web page where we can send our experiences and suggestions/recommendations so that they can all be placed there for easy collection in one place, printing out, and forwarding on to the County Council, State Reps, and Congressmen? Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com zeke196@juno.com karenmullian.homepage.com pastmasters.homepage.com norwoodhistoricalsociety.hompage.com flax4sale.homepage.com

<A HREF="http://www.familyorigins.com/users/a/k/e/Linda-S-Akers-WV/FAMO4-0001/fow sndx.htm">Click here: SURNAME LIST</A> http://www.familyorigins.com/users/a/k/e/Linda-S-Akers-WV/FAMO4-0001/fowsndx.h tm Mary Jane Bright Star

<A HREF="http://www.uidaho.edu/special-collections/east1.html#usga">Click here: Repositories of Primary Sources: Eastern United States and Canada</A> http://www.uidaho.edu/special-collections/east1.html#usga Mary Jane Bright Star

In a message dated 8/27/00 9:00:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HMWEBBER writes: << Thank you Mary Jane--I'm running out of words--I just don't know what to say--how about if we start sending all of the remarks to the Elected Officials & the newspapers? >> Helen, Can someone get an e-mail addey for the courthouse? I am sure if we bombard the couthhouse with e-mail and send our letters, we will get their attention. Not only that , but get the addey for mayors office and the Del. Co. Times. Im ready, just let me no when. Mary Jane Bright Star