Blue Ball, PA is a town near Intercourse, Paradise, etc. Makes you wonder what those Amish were thinking when they named the towns :) Love it up there! Lisa Marie Raker mailto:raker@udel.edu Who watches the BLUE ROCKS and works for the BLUE HEN (UofD).

Interesting comment on little girl sold (seld indenture for x number of years) to Caleb Pusey. My Alexander Ross was stolen off the streets of either Scotland or Northern Ireland and was indentured to Caleb Pusey at age of 12. Alexander Ross became a man of great wealth. He moved from Chester Co with a whole group of Quakers to found Hopewell Meeting in VA. Cathy Berger ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: [PACHESTE] Re: William Baily > > I just got back my book DESCENDANTS OF JOEL BAILY, by Cope. He lists > the Wiltshire Friends records, all those mentioning Bailys, and the Records > of Bromhan Parish....the earliest Balyly marriage listed was for William > Bayly, of Catcomb, 2 MO 3, 1671, to Susannah Skeate of Foxham. The earliest > death is of a William Baily, 9 MO 25, 1675, of Catcombe, carpenter. The > earliest birth, as listed in the parish records of Bromhan, Wiltshire, is > 1605, Oct 6; Joel, the sonne of Thomas Bayly and of Ann his wife Buryed. > Our Joel Baily was baptized in 1658, Jan 29; Joel Baylie sonne of > Daniell Baylie. It also lists the baptism 1567, March 7th ; Thomas Bayly, > the son of Willm. Bayly...there is no record of any marriage of Willm. > Bayly, and later, Cope simply lists the first generation as William...no > wife mentioned at al.....so unknown it is! > I can't remember the original question....something about who had what > children. If you're interested in any particular one, let me > know.......there's sure to be more....This is what Cope lists for the > various folks; > children of Thomas and Anne Bayly; > Anne..bapt ..12-23-1598 > Daniel bap 3-14-1601 > Joel (perhaps twin of Daniel, being baptized on the same date) > Thomas Bayly bapt 9-14-1603 > Rebecca bapt. 3-2-1605 > > children by 2nd wife Jane; > John pap 2-22-1606 buried 3-7-1606 > John bap 3-29-1608 (perhaps the same John Bayly of Bromham, > whose will proved in 1675) > > Children of Daniel and Mary Bayly of Westbrook; > Thomas. > Daniel.. broadweaver of Westbrook, died 1732, bought land in pa but > remained in England > Mary...mentioned in her father's will > Dorothy....ditto > Ann bapt 1-3-1654 died young > Josias..bap 2-15-1656 died young or unmarried > Joel...bap. 1-29-1658 > Ann bap 11-30-1662 married ? Blake > Isaac Bayly, bap. 6-14-1666 died 1727, leaving widow Jane and children > Daniel, Ann (hunt), E;Elizabeth (Moore), Joel, John, Mary and Isaac > > children of Joel and Ann Short Baily; > Mary > Ann > Daniel > Isaac > Joel > Thomas > John > Josiah > There is, of course, more on all of the above....if I could just > remember what children were those in question!! > > S. > An interesting aside I found, while looking through the book...A fella > born in West Nottingham in 1717, was writing of his mother, who,when 12 to > 14 years old, was forcibly taken, along with many others, carried on board a > ship,and brought to Pa. She was then sold to Caleb Pusey, near Chester,and > served him for 5 years, before then marring William Cole. Can you > imagine?.....and what of the poor mother, who probably never knew what > happened to her daughter...... > > -----Original Message----- > To: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@intelos.net> > Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:32 AM > Subject: Re: William Baily > > > >What do you think? I don't think either Mary Fisher or Elizabeth Woolfrey > >is documented, so I'm going back to "Unknown." > > > >BTW, don't let the criticism get under your skin, you're doing fine. > > > >Nathan > > > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Visit the PA GenWeb Archives at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > > > >

> -----Original Message----- > From: CarBurCo@aol.com [mailto:CarBurCo@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:29 AM > To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACHESTE] Re:IS EVERYTHING BLUE IN WINTER THERE? > > > WHAT IS UP with this part of the country and the color BLUE??? > > BLUE PIG > BLUE HENS > BLUE ROCKS > BLUE BALL (an old road where one of my ancestor's brothers had an Inn) Blue Ball is more than just a road, isn't it? My grandfather reported "Blue Ball, PA" as his place of birth ... I assume a town in Lancaster Co. > > > Were the WINTERS particularly hard in those days???<G> > > All right I will STOP. And with places like Intercourse and Mt. Joy nearby, it's a good thing you did! Blessings, Jon

Good morning, Thank you so much for this fabulous list, here is a little more info on the GAR & one that is not on the list SSMA. Yesterday, while volunteering at the DCHS in Broomall, PA, they asked me to identify a SSMA marker that has Marcus Hook (across the top), a number 12 (in the center), & SSMA (at the bottom) of the marker. SSMA stands for: S.S.M.A.--Soldiers & Sailors Memorial Association G.A.R.--Grand Army of the Republic: A society founded 1866 of Civil War veterans who served in the Union Forces. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

I don't remember who was looking for Freemont, PA but if you go to Placesnamed.com (a geographical encyclopedis) it gives the following: Freemont, PA is in Chester County location is 39 deg 44'42"N76 deg 4'0"W the source is GSP Hope this helps confirm your query. Michelle

Freemont is in the lower southwest end of Chester County, past Nottingham in West Nottingham Twp. Anne. -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith [SMTP:tiggernut_48@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:36 PM To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACHESTE] Blue Pig Yahoo map can't find Fremont; where is it, and is this the right way to spell it? Dora __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ______________________________

WHAT IS UP with this part of the country and the color BLUE??? BLUE PIG BLUE HENS BLUE ROCKS BLUE BALL (an old road where one of my ancestor's brothers had an Inn) Were the WINTERS particularly hard in those days???<G> All right I will STOP. Carole

John, Perhaps your ancestor had many friends in Lancaster who wished to pay him a fond farewell, hence the service at the train station...it would have saved them the trip to Oxford. Regarding the use of the train station, I have something that's not completely different: "Upon his death in 1882 after a long illness, his remains were carried by a special W&N Railroad train to the Geigertown siding, where he was buried at St. Paul's Cemetery..." Of course in the above account it's not really clear if there was an actual viewing or funeral in the train car. From what I know, at this point in time (at least in Western PA) tradition was to hold the viewing at the family home of the deceased (a practice in one line of my family up through the 1960's!). Perhaps no one in Lancaster could host the coffin, hence the service at the station? Of course this is just my theory; perhaps someone with historical knowledge can shed some facts on this type of situation? Sharon : -----Original Message----- : From: John Vail [mailto:jvail@brandywine.net] : Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:29 AM : To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: [PACHESTE] funeral at train station : : : W hile searching our family line, Burger, I found a newspaper : clipping that said funeral at train station, burial in Lancaster, : 1895 was the year. Was it a usual thing to have services like : this at a train station, I do not believe he was connected to the : railroad,he died in Oxford, Chester Co, any ideas : pat : : : ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== : Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at : http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm : : : :

Hello All, According to Microsoft Streets & Trips, the area known as "Freemont" is near Fremont Rd. & Leesbridge Road in West Nottingham, Chester Co., PA Believe me, I'm not affiliated with Microsoft products but have to admit this mapping program is slick to use and very handy to have. After rebate it cost us $10! My large Atlas & Gazeteer of PA hardly comes out of the file drawer these days... Sharon

Rudulph is also a Cecil Co, MD surname very early. Just south of Chester Co. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <CarBurCo@aol.com> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] RUDULPH,MURRAY,SYNG,NORTON, etc EARLY 1700's > > > I am looking for anyone with connections with the above names RUDULPH, > MURRAY, SYNG, NORTON in Chester County. They were in the several state area > at various times: PA,NJ,DE, MD. Also have these names who came earlier: > WARNER, JACOB, SKUTE. > > > Thanks so much, > > Carole > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > >

Hi Ian, Here is an update on some incorrect info that was sent to you! << Ian: Before you go to all this trouble, it isn't clear why you need someone to look this stuff up for you? In what time period are these marriages and deaths? If before 1885, then yup, you need lookups. And you might find the information that way. [ If since 1890 something, you get the info by writing to Vital Records at New Castle, Pennsylvania (not Delaware). ] >> MY REPLY: The above info is not correct! You cannot get birth & death certificates from the State of PA until 1906. In Delaware Co. you can get marriage records from the Delaware County Court House & some birth & death info, too. Please read the following: Register of Wills: Births 1893-1906 Deaths 1893-1906 Marriages 1885-present To find out about the Vital Records for PA go to: <A HREF="http://vitalrec.com/pacounties1.html">PA Vital Records Counties Info< /A> http://vitalrec.com/pacounties1.html <A HREF="http://vitalrec.com/pa.html">PA Vital Records Info</A> http://vitalrec.com/pa.html <<This is not I don't know the address off hand, but someone will chip it in. Unless they lived in any of certain large cities, in which case you would write to the city. Examples are Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia. Yours, Dora Smith>> --- SirIanOfCa@aol.com wrote: > Is there anyone on the list that lives in the > Chester and Delaware County > area? > > I am looking for someone to look up a few > marriages and deaths for me and see > what documentation they may find.Needless to > say I am not asking anyone to do > this for free I will more than gladly pay them > and cover all expenses such as > copies fees and gas.My research centers around > 3 individuals and basically I > would be looking for birth marriage and death > info on those 3 people. > > If there is no one on the list that could > undertake the task could anyone > recommend a Proffessional genealogist they have > had personal experience of. > > In the not too distant future I shall be moving > back to the Wilmington > Delaware area until them I am stuck doing > everything long distance from here > in CA. > > > Thanks Ian. > > >>

Freemont, PA is located South of Nottingham, near where Route #1 crosses the Pennsylvania border. Nottingham Park is located on the West side of Route #1. Freemont is located on the West entrance road to Nottingham Park. This information comes from the Microsoft Trip Planner. I have found it valuable in locating small places. Claude Nivens

Good morning! Sandra has been removed from this list, so if there are any here who wish to send messages to her in response to her last postings, you will need to do so privately. Let's move on, folks, though as always, I hope you will feel free to contact me privately with any concerns or comments you may have. Mary Harris, mhharris@pcbank.net listowner: PACHESTE-L, PADELAWA-L > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@intelos.net> > Reply-To: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@intelos.net> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 07:23:50 -0400 > > As many others of you, I have watched the list manager allow two > somewhat > troubled people ruin what was once a great list. I have continued > doing > lookups , sending the results to only the person who queried, for I > certainly do not feel comfortable sharing things with the list in > general, > for reasons you are all painfully aware of. But, I kept thinking > what a > waste of good data, that could perhaps benefit so many. So, I am > starting a > new list, to be called the PA-OLD-CHESTER, and you will subscribe > the same > way you do to all the others. The interest of the list will be the > ORIGINAL Chester County, and take in all lands encompassed in Penn's > original Chester co. > I also plan to be a list adm. who takes a positive roll in the > list, and > adds to the general knowledge of the list members, not just as an > occasional > disciplinarian.........the list is not quite up and running yet, and > I > hadn't planned to tell you all about it quite yet, but after Anne's > post > this AM I am afraid that many will drop out before I get a chance to > let > them know that there is soon to be an alternative to this nuttiness. > So, please check periodically for us to get going, and join us > when we > once more get back to some "fun" genealogy.......just remember, the > sign in > the window says "N complainers or kooks need apply." > See ya, my friends..... > > Sandra > > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Visit the US GenWeb Master States Index Page > http://www.usgenweb.org > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

The list is now "up and running".....hooray! Come one, come (almost) all! S. To join just send an email to PA-OLD-CHESTER-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com then, to post to the list, send your emails to PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com

W hile searching our family line, Burger, I found a newspaper clipping that said funeral at train station, burial in Lancaster, 1895 was the year. Was it a usual thing to have services like this at a train station, I do not believe he was connected to the railroad,he died in Oxford, Chester Co, any ideas pat

As many others of you, I have watched the list manager allow two somewhat troubled people ruin what was once a great list. I have continued doing lookups , sending the results to only the person who queried, for I certainly do not feel comfortable sharing things with the list in general, for reasons you are all painfully aware of. But, I kept thinking what a waste of good data, that could perhaps benefit so many. So, I am starting a new list, to be called the PA-OLD-CHESTER, and you will subscribe the same way you do to all the others. The interest of the list will be the ORIGINAL Chester County, and take in all lands encompassed in Penn's original Chester co. I also plan to be a list adm. who takes a positive roll in the list, and adds to the general knowledge of the list members, not just as an occasional disciplinarian.........the list is not quite up and running yet, and I hadn't planned to tell you all about it quite yet, but after Anne's post this AM I am afraid that many will drop out before I get a chance to let them know that there is soon to be an alternative to this nuttiness. So, please check periodically for us to get going, and join us when we once more get back to some "fun" genealogy.......just remember, the sign in the window says "N complainers or kooks need apply." See ya, my friends..... Sandra

I've been reading the discussions tonight about "Blue Pig" and "Fremont" Pennsylvania. I've check my 1797 and 1853 Gazetteer and neither appear. Now what I've about to write is a wild, crazy hunch . . . and I have no idea where it came from. Just a thought . . . Could "Blue Pig" be the name of an old tavern or inn at some tiny little town or crossroads on a well-traveled road? Blue Pig sounds more like a name plate you'd see hanging on a tavern or inn and could very easily have been used to refer to a long-gone crossroads or village. The original post gave no time period, just his ggg-grandmother so I've no idea on that other than my 3rd gr-grandparents were born in the 1780's. If that's true, the tavern or inn could be a possibility. Remember . . . this is just a wild idea! Were/Are there any books on old taverns or inns in Chester County? Kathy W-F mailto:woodside1728@uswest.net

<< I just came back from the archives in Chester County, PA and wow what a place. My hats off to PA and the great sources they provide. >> I've been meaning to get to the Chester Co. Archives. Can anyone tell me what is available there and most importantly is it indexed. Or will I spend hours pouring thru records looking for my ancestors records? thanks in advance. Jeanne

Sorry, guys, but I subscribed to learn more on my families, not to read (night after night) criticisms and public opinions...not to mention the catfights. Will return in awhile, hopefully things have changed. Good luck to all of you on your searches....have had enough of the pettiness to last me awhile. Anne Laukka

>Someone wrote me that Fremont no longer exists - >but the road is still in West Nottingham. OK, we >have ze clue why they guy posted to the Chester >County list. But where was Fremont located? > >Yours, >Dora > My 1990 DeLorme Pennsylvania Atlas & Gazetteer, page 94, shows Fremont (Freemont) located a little over 4 miles southwest of Oxford, Penn. Fremont appears to be located on Black Run just upstream from Nottingham in West Nottingham township. Another way to locate it is two miles west of the interchange of U.S. 1 and Pennsylvania 272. -- Karl Seitz