In a message dated 09/04/2000 5:48:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bulldog2429@voyager.net writes: << I saw you mention DAVIS in the same breath as Old School Baptists...I have been looking for an Owen DAVIS born 5 December, 1725, and died 7 July, 1810, in Fayette Co., Pa. He married (1) Sarah OWENS, daughter of Samuel and Sarah OWENS and (2) Hannah JAMES, daughter of Meshach and Mary JAMES. These were Baptist families. Owen was a son of Philip and Jane DAVIS. Can you tell me anything about the DAVIS families you know of, Dora? Thank you... >> Sam, Have we talked? Samuel Owen was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Owen of Whiteland Township. All of the people you're talking about ended up in Cumberland County. There are many James Davises in Chester County. It is very difficult sorting them all out. Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com zeke196@juno.com karenmullian.homepage.com pastmasters.homepage.com norwoodhistoricalsociety.hompage.com flax4sale.homepage.com

Dora- I saw you mention DAVIS in the same breath as Old School Baptists...I have been looking for an Owen DAVIS born 5 December, 1725, and died 7 July, 1810, in Fayette Co., Pa. He married (1) Sarah OWENS, daughter of Samuel and Sarah OWENS and (2) Hannah JAMES, daughter of Meshach and Mary JAMES. These were Baptist families. Owen was a son of Philip and Jane DAVIS. Can you tell me anything about the DAVIS families you know of, Dora? Thank you... Sam D. Lawson bulldog2429@voyager.net

Planning a trip to Chester County Archives tommorrow morning. Will have some time left, any request. Frank

Hi Suzanne- There is an article on the Delaware state Gen Web page <www.usgenweb.org> (click on Delaware) which talks about the vanishing Indians of Delaware. They disappear because they go white- sort of like going native in reverse. If they LOOK like Indians and wear buckskin, they may be listed on the census as Mulatto ( a catch-all category for non-whites); but when they live in houses and wear regular clothes, and especially when they become financially well off, they become white. Another reason they may be hard to find- look at the census categories. in 1790 there are free white males, free white females, all other free persons, and slaves. However, Indians were not included in the category of all other free persons. Also in the 19th century there was a lot of prejudice and discrimination, so lots of Native Americans were reluctant to acknowledge their NA roots. Please see the page on my Broomhall website about Thomas Broomall, a Tuscarora Indian. <www.springhillfarm.com/broomhall/thomas4b.html> Anne Broomall Wiegle -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne J. Moller [SMTP:SMoller1@compuserve.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 1:30 PM To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACHESTE] Native American Roots Dear List members, I have very good reason to believe that the first of my ancestors, surname SILPATH, was a Native American. The area is around the Burlington, NJ area. I know from history books that there was a very large population of Native Americans in that area in the Colonial times. The family story (known and told by each branch - even though the branches didn't know one another), is that the first SILPATH was a Native American and that he fell in love and married a colonial girl. He then changed his name from Silver Path to Silpath. I don't know how to research that information. Can anyone give me guidance? The earliest Silpaths that I have proof of date to about 1740's. I can't find the name on Ship records. All Silpaths that I do find are definitely related. There is only ONE Silpath family. Any guidance that anyone can provide is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Suzanne ______________________________

Sam: My knowledge is a bit slim because they aren't my people. Shoul dbe enough info on them around, though. They were a very wealthy family and all over London Britain township. If you look upWhite Clay Creek on the web, you will come on a number you can call, find out how to get the park ranger whose office is in the old London Baptist church, she could tell you if your people are buried there. Davis is a common name, though, and it was common in Chester County. Yours, Dora Smith --- "Sam D. Lawson" <bulldog2429@voyager.net> wrote: > Dora- > I saw you mention DAVIS in the same breath as > Old School Baptists...I have been looking for > an Owen DAVIS born 5 December, 1725, and died 7 > July, 1810, in Fayette Co., Pa. He married (1) > Sarah OWENS, daughter of Samuel and Sarah OWENS > and (2) Hannah JAMES, daughter of Meshach and > Mary JAMES. These were Baptist families. Owen > was a son of Philip and Jane DAVIS. Can you > tell me anything about the DAVIS families you > know of, Dora? Thank you... > > Sam D. Lawson > bulldog2429@voyager.net > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Thanks for all your help. The abstract of Hannh Moore's will led me to discover that she was married twice, first to Henry Collins (d. before 11/18/1752) by whom she had three daughters -- Mary who had a son Elisha Collins, Ann who married Aaron Hoopes, and Charity who married Joseph Garrett; and second to Nathaniel Moore by whom she had Joseph Moore, b: c. 1758, d: 07 05 1799 who married Sarah Jefferis; he was a physician, having trained under Dr. Kennedy; they had several children, including Joseph who trained under Dr. Jacob Ehrenzeller and all of whom settled in Mississippi; Emmor, Thomas, Nathaniel, Benjamin Moore. Most of this information is confirmed in Futhey & Cope's _History of Chester County_, page 650. Cope writes that Dr. Joseph Moore's early education is unknown; but as his mother was a well-known midwife, it seems likely that she spurred his interest in medicine. Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com zeke196@juno.com karenmullian.homepage.com pastmasters.homepage.com norwoodhistoricalsociety.hompage.com flax4sale.homepage.com

Hello fellow Chester County researchers, An especially busy fall semester makes it necessary for me to limit the number of mailing lists that I subscribe to. As my research in Chester County is somewhat in limbo right now, I have chosen to leave the list for the fall. I hope to be back in the Spring. In the meantime, please feel free to contact me directly, especially if you have any information on MOSES, KO:NIG/KOENIG/KING or SCHMID/SMITH. -- See you in the spring, Mary Taffet mdtaffet@syr.edu Researching descendants of Johann Adam MOSES of Pikeland Township

Debbie, A suggestion: Since you know the approximate death year (1911), look for his death on the Calif State Death Index. It will not only give you the exact date of death, but will give you a coded number which matches up to a county. Sorry, but I don't know what the code number is for Santa Clara County. When I was researching a pioneer family of San Mateo Co., I found that an elderly member was placed in Agnews State Hospital by his family because he was "senile", which could have been for what we know is alzheimers today. Another tip: Contact the Santa Clara Co. Genealogical and Historical Society for help in finding records for Agnews State Hospital and for burial/cemetery records for their county. They also probably have the CA State Death Index in their collection. They have their society holdings at the Santa Clara City Library. -- Helen (who used to live in San Mateo Co., Calif, next door to Santa Clara Co.) "Mary Helen E. Chrisman" wrote: > Hi Debbie, > The only California asylum that I know of off hand was Agnews State Asylum > for the Insane near San Jose in Santa Clara County. You might try tracking > your gr-grandfather in the 1910 census. My gr-gr-uncle turned up as an > "inmate" at Agnews in the 1920 census (Agnews was listed as its own > district). I haven't followed up with the info so I'm not any help on the > next step yet. Good luck. - Mary Helen > > -----Original Message----- > > I am interested in this topic also. I have a gr-grandfather, who, > according to family stories, died in an insane asylum in California in > 1911. I don't have a clue WHERE in California, and he had a very common > name. > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm

Since we're on the topic of the Moore family, has anyone got any information on Hannah Moore who was buried November 28, 1802 at Goshen Friends Burial Ground. The reference I have to her indicates that "she was aged and some years been very infirm." I've found no reference to her in Goshen Monthly Meeting. Any information would be delightedly welcome. Karen Greim Mullian booboopies@aol.com

Alexander LOVE, brother to my progenitor James LOVE, weaver, married Margaret MOORE, dau/of Andrew MOORE. She was disowned for "outgoing in marriage", no doubt because my LOVE's were Presbyterian. According to the info I have, which came from Passmore's book on Andrew Moore's family, Andrew MOORE had a son named Thomas. I have NO OTHER data. The book would no doubt be more helpful. Good hunting, Love, Lou

In a message dated 9/4/00 1:25:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tiggernut_48@yahoo.com writes: << What court would the judgement have been made in, adn wehre would I find the record of it? >> A copy of the mortgage should be on microfilm in the Recorder of Deeds office. You can look up your ancestor's name in the Mortgagor Index to find the book and page number of the mortgage.

I have a Captain George Moore and wife Maria who lived in Chester, PA where he worked at a small Phila, Wilm, Balt railroad. He was Presbyterian. George died in 1857 and Maria 1759 (in Wilmington). Their children were were: Rebecca Milfrid Moore b 1828 m David Findlay, Thomas M Moore, George M Moore, James M Moore, Louisa Moore (1832-1856) Could that be your Thomas? Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dora Smith <tiggernut_48@yahoo.com> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 1:36 AM Subject: [PACHESTE] Quaker Andrew Moore family of Chester County, and crooked little fingers? > Andrew Moore, a Quaker, settled in Chester County > or close by and gave rise to a huge family group. > They are covered by a two volume or something > family genealogy that was available to me when I > lived in Buffalo, NY. I now live in Texas. I > think that people on this list have that book. > > I'm trying to trace my Charles Moore, who was > born in Pennsylvania, probably somewhere near the > PA/MD/DE border, but no reason to think in > Chester County. He was born in 1859 to Thomas > Moore. > > But we've got a discussion going on the Moore > list. It seems like just about every Moore on the > list along routes of migration people followed > from Pennsylania, have crooked little fingers - > as does my father. This is a genetic trait > common in the Scotch Irish, but it seems to be > hitting a group of Moore's with unusual > frequency. It seems to predate the Revolutionary > War in teh lines in runs in, and there are too > many cases on the list for a common ancestor not > to be pretty far back. That ancestor would have > had to have been in Pennsylvania as early as > Andrew Moore was. > > One place the crooked little fingers went is > North Carolina. I know for a fact that Chester > County Quakers went there. Some of my Thompsons > and Chambers and Millers were among them. > > Does anyone have any knowledge about crooked > little fingers and Andrew Moore's descendants? > > Yours, > Dora Smith > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Check out other counties in PA! > http://libertynet.org/~gencap/pacounties.html > > > > >

James ELLIS and Mary Ann LUXON married c. 1837 in St Austell, Cornwall, England Had the following children: 1. Elizabeth, b. 15 OCT 1838, d. 17 OCT 1913, in Berks Co. PA. Lived in Boyertown, PA, in 1911. Married to William TOMS. 2. Annie Luxon, b. 6 AUG 1847, d. 4 NOV 1911, in Pottstown, PA. Married to Jonas Burns REIFSNEIDER. 3. William Henry, lived in Harrisburg, PA, in 1911. 4. Jane, married ??? QUICK, lived in Reading, PA, in 1911. 5. Mary, married, ??? AUBACH, lived in Reading, PA, in 1911. 6. James, NFI 7. George, NFI George was b. 1849/1850 in PA. Birthplace of Mary is unknown. All others b. St Austell. The family came to PA 1848/1849. The 1850 US census shows them living in Upper Merion Twp, James being a quarryman. 1855 naturalization papers shows them living in Shannonsville(Audubon), Lower Providence Twp. The 1860 US census shows just James and George living in Colebrookdale, Berks Cty. My cousin, June Herb, and I are now lost. We would like to know if any others have any info on the parents and sibs of Elizabeth and Annie. Many thanks, Bob Reifsneider Orange Park, FL

Hi, I have TUTTLES buried at St. Charles in Kellyville, Dela. Co. PA. It appears that my g-g-grandparents Patrick & Mary (Maynes) had their first daughter buried there. Her name was Margaret b. 1856-7. She appears to die after the 1870 Census & they come all the way from East Nottingham, Chester Co., PA. to bury her at St. Charles in Kellyville, Dela. Co., PA. This I have never understood. I have two different reports on where Patrick, is buried. His obit from the newspaper says High Mass at Immaculate Heart & interment at St. Charles Cemetery, Kellyville. (Wilm. paper please copy.) The Death Records at the Dela. Co. Court House says he was buried at E. Hart Cem. (Which I think is a mistake.) His son John TUTTLE, (who's death certificate I have) says he was buried at St. Charles in Kellyville. I believe Mary, Patrick's wife, was also buried there but I have never found her death date to confirm it. Patrick d. 1894, Mary d. bet. 1896-1900 & their son John d. 1908 were living in Trainer, Lower Chichester Twp., Dela. Co., PA when they died. Note: If the obit is telling the Wilmington paper to please pick up-- that means this family had a connection in DE. Most likely the New Castle Co., area. Does this family sound familiar to anyone out there? Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) What are the surnames of your family buried there? I notice your name is RYAN & there was a John RYAN who came over on the same ship as Patrick, 1 Apr 1850, Port of Baltimore, MD. Where did your family live? Do you know where they came from in Ireland? Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

In a message dated 00-09-03 23:17:02 EDT, marypwelch@email.msn.com writes: << During earlier Colonial American Times, many ships were owned by individuals as opposed to shipping companies. Is there a possibility of there being any records of these ships? One in particular I am looking for is The Ship "Loyalty" in the late 1600s ~ early 1700s, owned by Henry Brown, reputed to have had holdings in Chester County. Is there any records of these smaller ships? If so, where can I find some information on these vessels. >> Mary, I too am very interested in any information on this subject. My ancestor Henry Brown/e settled in Burlington County, New Jersey. His son-in-law, Francis Davenport was in Burlington County also about 1680. I have not been able to find them on any ships. Also looking for Gervas Hall, son-in-law of Francis Davenport who we believe may have come over on his own ship. Or maybe they all came over together?? I would be interested in where you learned about Henry Brown and his holdings in Chester Co., Pa,. Thanks, Bob McKeon

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During earlier Colonial American Times, many ships were owned by individuals as opposed to shipping companies. Is there a possibility of there being any records of these ships? One in particular I am looking for is The Ship "Loyalty" in the late 1600s ~ early 1700s, owned by Henry Brown, reputed to have had holdings in Chester County. Is there any records of these smaller ships? If so, where can I find some information on these vessels. Mary Charleston, SC

Andrew Moore, a Quaker, settled in Chester County or close by and gave rise to a huge family group. They are covered by a two volume or something family genealogy that was available to me when I lived in Buffalo, NY. I now live in Texas. I think that people on this list have that book. I'm trying to trace my Charles Moore, who was born in Pennsylvania, probably somewhere near the PA/MD/DE border, but no reason to think in Chester County. He was born in 1859 to Thomas Moore. But we've got a discussion going on the Moore list. It seems like just about every Moore on the list along routes of migration people followed from Pennsylania, have crooked little fingers - as does my father. This is a genetic trait common in the Scotch Irish, but it seems to be hitting a group of Moore's with unusual frequency. It seems to predate the Revolutionary War in teh lines in runs in, and there are too many cases on the list for a common ancestor not to be pretty far back. That ancestor would have had to have been in Pennsylvania as early as Andrew Moore was. One place the crooked little fingers went is North Carolina. I know for a fact that Chester County Quakers went there. Some of my Thompsons and Chambers and Millers were among them. Does anyone have any knowledge about crooked little fingers and Andrew Moore's descendants? Yours, Dora Smith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

My ancestor, John Smith, lost his farm in London Britain township in 1831, when the creditor foreclosed on a mortgage. What court would the judgement have been made in, adn wehre would I find the record of it? The deed mentions a date the mortgage was taken out, about 1804 or 1805. It is as much a mystery as anything else about Smith finances. I want to know what was its purpose. The way I've got it, the Smiths came penniless from Ireland some time between 1787 and 1797, worked for a time for a local large farmer, bought 30 acres of land in London Britain township in October 1797, and paid cash for it, which must have been all the cash that they had, since excavation of the house that contains their original little log cabin, shows that they spent their first winter living in the half cellar of their unfinished log cabin, using a temporary fireplace int eh corner, while they were building it, though they had a newborn baby and a one year old child. John Smith was a weaver, and was taxed for his land, a cow, a horse, and his loom, and principally for the loom. I want to find out what was the purpose for the mortgage in 1804/5. I want to know whether to look for a small bequest from family back in Ireland, or a large loom among the Smiths' baggage on the ship from Ireland, as the explanation of how they were able to buy that land so quickly when they were penniless and employed as servants. If they purchased teh loom in 1804/5, then probably they didn't bring it from Ireland. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Does anyone out there have any RIGHTER's, BANES', FRIZZELLs, in their family? I'm looking for any connections at this point. I have hit the impervial "Brick wall"! I know they came from PA , and "presume" this area. I have them in Maryland in the 1860 census, but before that I draw a blank. Any help appreciated. Sincerely, Jacqui (Righter) Baylis Florida