I just found the article on the PA Chester Rootsweb site of the murder of John Humes by Ralph Kramer. In this article, it states that the family had gone out with a John Ross and another man and upon their arrival home, John Humes was killed. I was wondering if anyone knew the man John Ross. It didn't mention his age or if he was married or anything. My grandfather and ggrandfather were both John Rosses and I was wondering if this was one of them? My ggrandfather was a self employed laborer according to the 1910 census in Chester. His son John would have been married to Mary Eskey at the time with a daughter. Any info would be appreciated. Michelle Ross

At 01:01 AM 10/6/00 -0700, you wrote: >PACHESTE-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 323 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [PACHESTE] Enumeration District [Jeanries@aol.com] > #2 [PACHESTE] 1910 Census [Jeanries@aol.com] > #3 [PACHESTE] HARRY C RESSLER ["civi" <civi@global.california.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from PACHESTE-D, send a message to > > PACHESTE-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. Is anyone on the list working on the surname of LEONARD? I'm attempting to establish a link with the LEONARD family of Guilford Co, NC in early to mid 1700s. Thanks, Richard

Deneen: Thank you for your sweet offer. I wonder if you have Nicholas and Sarah (SAVAGE) BOYER in early to mid 1800's. Also her sister Juliana (SAVAGE) LAVER and spouse Erasmus, and any children. A SAVAGE descendent, In Alabama Diana

Good morning, I'm doing research on the following DEWEES Family & I was hoping you might be able to help me with some info on them. Thank you so very much! :) Isaac S. DEWEES, b. 4 Feb 1850, d. 9 Dec 1908 + Janet ELLIOT, b. 4 Sep 1856, d. 8 Feb 1929 George F. DEWEES, b. 25 Jul 1882, d. 17 Mar 1969 + Elizabeth STARR*, b. 1893, d. 23 Feb 1959 Agnes Marie DEWEES, b. 28 Oct 1910, d. 7 Nov 1985 *Note: John STARR & Julia DILLON are the parents of Elizabeth. Would anyone out there be related to an Elizabeth P. DEWEES, who recently lived in Downingtown, Chester Co., PA or know how she fits into this DEWEES Family? This is very important so please contact me on this! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

THANK YOU ONE AND ALL !!!!!!!!! Thanks for all your replies. As my gut instinct told me this place is to be avoided like the plague. I do not believe I received even one positive reply. I wish I could reply to each of you personally, but I'm not too much of a typist and would have to quit my job to find the time needed. Thanks again, Alan

In a message dated 09/27/2000 12:50:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, agemmill@earthlink.net writes: << The BRINTONs were an old (came over with Willima Penn) Quaker line in Chester Co. PA. You might check that county out. Futhey and Cope wrote a very comprehensive history of Chester Co. >> Hi Arlene Thank you for the info. I have a BRINTON surname used as a middle name in my ancestors family. John Davis HUGHES was b. 1824/25 in Bellefonte, PA, ( Centre Co.) married Hannah HICKS in 1846, the daughter of Isaac HICKS of Maryland and Hannah LAMBORN of Chester Co. (John Davis Hughes's parents are listed in the LAMBORN family History Book by Samuel LAMBORN as Henry and Martha Jane HUGHES. ) There was a John and James HUGHS/HUGHES in Centre and Northumberland Co in the late 1700's. ~ possibly the same one that were in Chester Co.) Family History is that they were Welsh. John and Hannah HUGHES named one of their sons ~ Isaac BRINTON HUGHES. Other middle names are CHAMBERS, DURBIN, and MILTON I thought maybe it was the Hughes family connected to the Brintons, but it also could be the LAMBORN line. Does anyone have any info? Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Hi everyone. Recently my mother found an old scrapbook that my grandmother had kept for years. In the scrapbook there are tons of different articles on Phoenixville, PA and how it was in the "olden days". There are old pictures that were published in a column called "Down Memory Lane" these pictures consist of the bad Hurricane in the 50's, the fire that destroyed the Mont Clare bridge, the "great flood", etc. They also include pictures of various people (some don't list the people's names). There is also articles in a column called "Our Yesterday's" which tells about the old time Phoenixville. If anyone has a line in Phoenixville, I will gladly look through the articles to see if any of them list your ancestors. Deneen

Anna, an addition to your excellent article below. One of my ancestoresses, unmarried at the time, was left an equal share of land as her brothers received. She then proceeded to buy each one of the brothers out! When she married the taxes were no longer paid by her but by the husband. He disappears several years later (dead?) and she resumes paying the taxes and eventually writes a will - all in her maiden name - and this in 1828 in Chester Co, PA. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Wiegle <awiegle@fast.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [PACHESTE] why guardian's > I don't think this is off topic at all- > > In Pennsylvania, women could not own land until 1848. However, they had a dower > right to 1/3 interest in any land acquired during the marriage. That is why the > wife must sign when the land is sold, but she couldn't own it herself. > > A guardian was necessary to see to the children's affairs. Women were not > supposed to be able to take care of finances, etc. When a man died, he left > property, especially real estate, to his wife which she could use only during > her lifetime, after which it would revert to a male heir. If he left it > directly to the male heir, he would specify that the wife had use of a certain > room in the house, and that the son would give her certain things every year, > like a percentage of the profit from the farm, cash, firewood, keep for her > livestock, so many bushels of wheat, apples, cider, etc. It is all spelled out > very specifically. They couldn't just leave the property to the wife and let > her manage it. > > In the case of your ancestor, "left in the care of" doesn't mean that the child > left the house where his mother lived- it means that the guardian saw that the > child was properly provided for, and would act in the mother's behalf on things > like education, apprenticeships, and financial affairs. However, since it says > "John Allen and wife" then perhaps the mother was ailing and could not care > properly for the child. > > Anne Broomall Wiegle > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilma [SMTP:gencon@harborside.com] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:37 AM > To: PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PACHESTE] why guardian's > > Forgive me, I know this is [kinda] off subject.. but I have a question > that has long bothered me... > > When a father / husband died the children were given guardian's why? > The mother doesn't seem to have control over her children... > > For example... my 10th gr grandfahter, Lawrence LITCHFIELD > > "Lawrence died 1649-50 at Scituate..on his death bed he left his > youngest son, Josiah to the care of John Allen and wife.." > > That is just one case I have found... the poor wife seem'd not to have > much to say regarding her own children... > > I could understand this if the mother was deceased, it seems so sad > to me that the children would be moved out of her home into > someone elses.. She looses her husband and then her children?? > > Thanks for helping me out with this > > Wilma Fleming Haynes > gencon@harborside.com > > ______________________________ > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Visit the PA GenWeb Archives at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm > > > > >

Looking for info to exchange with folks interested in the above surnames circa 1770-1810 from Chester Co. David Jonkien/Junkins/Jenkins/Jinkin - died c. 1793 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA; I need a date, cemetery/family plot name, and would like to know if Oxford is a twp. or a community name; I would like to find out if he has a headstone. David was married to Jane Russell in Ireland and she died between 1770 and 1780 in E. Nottingham Twp. Chester Co. PA; I need a cemetery and would love to find out if she has a headstone. David may have remarried to a lady named Ann. My line is indicated with an *. David and Jane had 5 children: 1. John Junkins, b. 1744 in Ireland and died circa 1750 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA. Any additional info would be most appreciated. 2*. Hannah Junkins, b. 1747 in Ireland and married first, James Douglass*, circa 1769 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA. There is some connection of James to the given name of Abraham but I cannot identify it; any help would be very much appreciated. James is said to have purchased a 239 acre farm in 1770 in East Nottingham Twp. that was sold in 1795 by his 2 sons (David and James*) and 1 daughter-in-law (Elizabeth, married to David). I can't seem to locate where I would try to confirm this info, so any suggestions, film #'s or books would be most appreciated. James died c. 1774, the year his second son, James (Jr.) was born. James Douglas(s)'s estate may be listed in the "Letters of Administration" issued Dec. 28, 1773 to David Junkin (his father-in-law). It is possible that this Letters of Administration may be in a Clerks Book 1, page 131. If anyone has access to any of this info I would be delighted to pay for any copies and postage, or to have you refer me to a source and I will do it myself (as long as I don't have to travel to PA - I live in Washington (the state). Hannah married 2nd, John McElvain/Mulvain/Mulvan/Mulveen circa 1776 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA. He died about Oct. 1, 1793 in E. Nottingham twp. Chester Co. PA. Any info on John or confirming their marriage would be most appreciated. Hannah and John had 4 sons (William, John, Joseph, Junkin) and a daughter (Hannah). I have a lot of info on the sons, and a tidbit on the daughter Hannah. I do not know when or where Hannah died so anyone with info or suggestions on where to look would be very appreciated. 3. Mary Junkins was born about circa 1749 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA. She married Thomas Whiteside who was a doctor in Oxford area and an early supporter of a library at Oxford. The were both buried in the Old Presbyterian Church cemetery, in Oxford, PA. 4. John Junkins, born circa 1752 in Oxford Chester Co. PA. Married Ann _______; I would love to have her surname. They moved to OH c. 1803 to U.S. Military District, Range 4, Township 5, Quarter Township 2. Lots of info to exchange. He was a county commissioner, justice of the peace, and postmaster. Their daughter Jane "Jennie" married Matthew Gray in PA and emigrated west with her parents, daughter Hannah married James Lisk of NY in OH, and daughter Mary married James McCune of Lancaster Co.PA in Muskingum Co. OH. Two sons, David and John, and a daughter Ann, did not marry. 5. Jane Junkins b. c. 1756 in Oxford Chester Co. PA. She married John McCune (son of George McCown/McKown and unknown wife) circa 1777 in Oxford, Chester Co. PA; he may have been a widower. Jane and John moved a lot. They had 8 children including a daughter Jane who married Lewis Vail. There is a source for a lot of info on all 8 children. Like everyone else, I would appreciate any help that might be offered on any of the above. My line is through Hannah and her second child, James Douglass. Patti

In a message dated 10/06/2000 7:16:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, art4dodger@earthlink.net writes: << Hi lists, I have been contacted by the above online genealogy data base asking me to subscribe. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they legit.? One time fee of $45.00 to use the site forever. Sounds like one of those "if it sounds too good to be true...."! Thanks, Alan >> Alan I can tell you that this is a rip off. You are buying free info already on the web. They have taken Rootsweb, Genweb, Ancestry Com and a lot of websites and organized the info ~ that's all! They are being sued and the District Attorney of the State was contacted where Elias Bodley on E-bay was selling these contracts. Several people have called the police and filed charges against Elias Bodley ~ he also gave out the same code name and password to people! Hope this helps! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl Researching HEWES/HUGHS/HUGHES in Chester Co

Actually Family Discoverey.com is currently being persued through the courts by Rootsweb for copyright infringement. Rootsweb I gather copyrights all its submissions by volunteers in order to make sure that it remains free.For example I am sure many of you have seen the information that Rootsweb puts out with regard to people copying or misusing submitted info.Anyone is free to copy or reproduce any of their information as long as the author/transcriber is given credit.It does also clearly state that this is a condition of the information remaining free. Rootsweb confirmed they are taking Action but declined to go into detail. Ian.

General rule of thumb, Alan, is to put aside anything that costs money until you first check out the Free Alternatives. :) I take several issues with this site. The most important issue is that it seems someone is trying to charge people for items which are public record and a part of the Public Domain. Theycan be found Free elsewhere. In the US, you can not charge for public records, but you can charge for your time and services which you invest in obtaining those records for someone. For example, the county, state and federal offices can charge you for research time and cost of materials, but they can't charge you for the information on that record. You may have to visit the office to see the records yourself and you may even have to make an appointment, but viewing the information is Free. Remember, this refers to only those items which are a part of the public domain. I suggest going to the records office, an LDS FHC or even buying the disks from Family Tree, the LDS, the government agencies or even a historical society. This organization you are asking about just don't seem right to me. :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Townsend" <art4dodger@earthlink.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Familydiscovery.com > Hi lists, > I have been contacted by the above online genealogy data base asking > me to subscribe. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they legit.? > One time fee of $45.00 to use the site forever. Sounds like one of those > "if it sounds too good to be true...."! > Thanks, Alan > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > >

Please see http://gene_olson.tripod.com/index.html for a complete dialog on Family Discovery. --Derick At 07:38 PM 10/6/00, Mary Harris wrote: >Much too good to be true, in fact. These FamilyDiscovery people are charging >for access to a list of links, many of which are part of the USGenWeb >Project, that are completely free of charge. Basically, they want to lure >you in to something that's already free to anyone, so while they're not >technically a fraud, they aren't providing anything that isn't already >readily available. And from what I've seen of their Pennsylvania listings, >they don't have very much to offer either; for the entire state, there might >be three dozen links, and none of them at all from the Chester area. Pretty >poor showing, I would say. I found it quite annoying to see someone trying >to make a buck off the hard work done voluntarily by so many others. > >-Mary >listowner, PACHESTE-L >http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alan Townsend <art4dodger@earthlink.net> >To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:11 PM >Subject: [PACHESTE] Familydiscovery.com > > > > Hi lists, > > I have been contacted by the above online genealogy data base asking > > me to subscribe. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they legit.? > > One time fee of $45.00 to use the site forever. Sounds like one of those > > "if it sounds too good to be true...."! > > Thanks, Alan > > > > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >Visit the PA GenWeb Archives at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm

Much too good to be true, in fact. These FamilyDiscovery people are charging for access to a list of links, many of which are part of the USGenWeb Project, that are completely free of charge. Basically, they want to lure you in to something that's already free to anyone, so while they're not technically a fraud, they aren't providing anything that isn't already readily available. And from what I've seen of their Pennsylvania listings, they don't have very much to offer either; for the entire state, there might be three dozen links, and none of them at all from the Chester area. Pretty poor showing, I would say. I found it quite annoying to see someone trying to make a buck off the hard work done voluntarily by so many others. -Mary listowner, PACHESTE-L http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Townsend <art4dodger@earthlink.net> To: <PACHESTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:11 PM Subject: [PACHESTE] Familydiscovery.com > Hi lists, > I have been contacted by the above online genealogy data base asking > me to subscribe. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they legit.? > One time fee of $45.00 to use the site forever. Sounds like one of those > "if it sounds too good to be true...."! > Thanks, Alan > > > ==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== > Stop by our associated website for Chester County Genealogy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacheste/chester.htm > > > > >

Hi lists, I have been contacted by the above online genealogy data base asking me to subscribe. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they legit.? One time fee of $45.00 to use the site forever. Sounds like one of those "if it sounds too good to be true...."! Thanks, Alan

Philip, There's extensive info on the Booth family on the Bethel Township website: http://www.twp.bethel.pa.us/bethl15a.htm and also in Ashmead's "History of Delaware County" at: www.delcohistory.org Use the Search feature on the homepage to search for the various Booth names you mentioned. (Note that the current Delaware County was actually part of Chester County until the late 18th century.) Coincidentally, I know Tom Booth (of Bethel Township) fairly well. He's also a direct descendant of this line of Booths. If you'd like to correspond further, just let me know. Best wishes, Rick Nicholson At 02:16 PM 10/6/00, Patty & Philip Booth wrote: >Dear List; > >I am new to this list and am endeavoring to connect my Benjamin Booth (b. >May 1780) to William Booth of this county. I believe that Benjamin was his >son. I am also trying to take the connection back to Robert Booth who came >from England 1713 married to Elizabeth Caston (Gaston). > >Any BOOTH(E) info would help. > >Regards > >Philip Booth >Dearborn, MI >PETEAUX@CORECOMM.NET > > >==== PACHESTE Mailing List ==== >Check out the searchable US GenWeb Project Archives! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/usgwarch.html

Dear List; I am new to this list and am endeavoring to connect my Benjamin Booth (b. May 1780) to William Booth of this county. I believe that Benjamin was his son. I am also trying to take the connection back to Robert Booth who came from England 1713 married to Elizabeth Caston (Gaston). Any BOOTH(E) info would help. Regards Philip Booth Dearborn, MI PETEAUX@CORECOMM.NET

Seeking "dates" and info on the following: Husband Harry C Ressler B abt 1875 Penn Wife Etta M Gable Born 7/5/1878 Lancaster County, Salisbury Twp, PENN, Know to be living in 1924. Daughter Mary G Born abt 1904 PENN Last known residence Chester County according to 1910 census Thanks Tom

Does anyone have access to the 1910 Chester Co. Census? I need to see if a William BEA, is the head of this household: Enum. District 43 (I believe this to be East Nottingham) visit # 413 (I believe this means household #) The miracode index shows Sara E. Bea as head of household. That is William's wife but according to cemetery records William is still alive. Thanks for any help. Jeanne Abrams Polries researching BEAs and BARNETTs in Chester Co and Cecil Co. MD

Does anyone know the corresponding names of towns that go with the Enum. Districts in the 1910 Chester Co. Census? I need #64 & 43. Thanks in advance of any help. Jeanne