Thanks, Deb. Much appreciated. Fred Houts ========================================== In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:06:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My husband remembers going to Tuffy's bike shop and buying things, but not his real name. I'm asking around with the relatives. My sister remembers Butch, because he worked at a gas station our Dad bought the Sunday paper at (and she'd ride along). I'll let you know if I find out more...